Times are becoming desperate for young Guyanese. They were conned by the AFC/PNC. Looks like the drug trade is getting bigger under this clueless administration. 

Let's be fair & square; drug trade didn't start under AFC/PNC. It started long before. And the easy money culture is now "traditional" in the Tradewinds sense. It's widespread in all ten regions. According to the old saw, monkey see monkey do. According to Granger, he inherited a monkey on his back. He was referring to Venezuela but he could have added narcotics problem too.

I won't be surprised if these mules have given names of their sources in Guyana and also if passengers from Guyana would have to go thru extra screenings.

Gilbakka posted:

Let's be fair & square; drug trade didn't start under AFC/PNC. It started long before. And the easy money culture is now "traditional" in the Tradewinds sense. It's widespread in all ten regions. According to the old saw, monkey see monkey do. According to Granger, he inherited a monkey on his back. He was referring to Venezuela but he could have added narcotics problem too.

Comrade Gill, Drug trades and money laundering has been around before PPP government, it escalate during PPP days because of technology ( cell phone ) easy communication for the drug mules. 

We learn how widespread it was because of the media / computer. Look around the world and see what period gun violence and drugs spiral out of control. 

Dave posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Let's be fair & square; drug trade didn't start under AFC/PNC. It started long before. And the easy money culture is now "traditional" in the Tradewinds sense. It's widespread in all ten regions. According to the old saw, monkey see monkey do. According to Granger, he inherited a monkey on his back. He was referring to Venezuela but he could have added narcotics problem too.

Comrade Gill, Drug trades and money laundering has been around before PPP government, it escalate during PPP days because of technology ( cell phone ) easy communication for the drug mules. 

We learn how widespread it was because of the media / computer. Look around the world and see what period gun violence and drugs spiral out of control. 

You are correct. Ah de same ting me seh in different words. Read am back.

Gilbakka posted:

Dave posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Let's be fair & square; drug trade didn't start under AFC/PNC. It started long before. And the easy money culture is now "traditional" in the Tradewinds sense. It's widespread in all ten regions. According to the old saw, monkey see monkey do. According to Granger, he inherited a monkey on his back. He was referring to Venezuela but he could have added narcotics problem too.

Comrade Gill, Drug trades and money laundering has been around before PPP government, it escalate during PPP days because of technology ( cell phone ) easy communication for the drug mules. 

We learn how widespread it was because of the media / computer. Look around the world and see what period gun violence and drugs spiral out of control. 

You are correct. Ah de same ting me seh in different words. Read am back.

He deliberately left out how the drug lords enjoyed protection under the PPP regime.

Gilbakka posted:

Dave posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Let's be fair & square; drug trade didn't start under AFC/PNC. It started long before. And the easy money culture is now "traditional" in the Tradewinds sense. It's widespread in all ten regions. According to the old saw, monkey see monkey do. According to Granger, he inherited a monkey on his back. He was referring to Venezuela but he could have added narcotics problem too.

Comrade Gill, Drug trades and money laundering has been around before PPP government, it escalate during PPP days because of technology ( cell phone ) easy communication for the drug mules. 

We learn how widespread it was because of the media / computer. Look around the world and see what period gun violence and drugs spiral out of control. 

You are correct. Ah de same ting me seh in different words. Read am back.

You are correct but we can view it at another angle ( the inheritance part). But I will not debate  you because of your vast knowledge and as my elder. Respect. 

Mitwah posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Dave posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Let's be fair & square; drug trade didn't start under AFC/PNC. It started long before. And the easy money culture is now "traditional" in the Tradewinds sense. It's widespread in all ten regions. According to the old saw, monkey see monkey do. According to Granger, he inherited a monkey on his back. He was referring to Venezuela but he could have added narcotics problem too.

Comrade Gill, Drug trades and money laundering has been around before PPP government, it escalate during PPP days because of technology ( cell phone ) easy communication for the drug mules. 

We learn how widespread it was because of the media / computer. Look around the world and see what period gun violence and drugs spiral out of control. 

You are correct. Ah de same ting me seh in different words. Read am back.

He deliberately left out how the drug lords enjoyed protection under the PPP regime.

Who is providing protection now. 

Dave posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Dave posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Let's be fair & square; drug trade didn't start under AFC/PNC. It started long before. And the easy money culture is now "traditional" in the Tradewinds sense. It's widespread in all ten regions. According to the old saw, monkey see monkey do. According to Granger, he inherited a monkey on his back. He was referring to Venezuela but he could have added narcotics problem too.

Comrade Gill, Drug trades and money laundering has been around before PPP government, it escalate during PPP days because of technology ( cell phone ) easy communication for the drug mules. 

We learn how widespread it was because of the media / computer. Look around the world and see what period gun violence and drugs spiral out of control. 

You are correct. Ah de same ting me seh in different words. Read am back.

You are correct but we can view it at another angle ( the inheritance part). But I will not debate  you because of your vast knowledge and as my elder. Respect. 

Walk safe.

PNC Guyana is a drug and crime infested Guyana!!!!!!!

Nehru posted:

PNC Guyana is a drug and crime infested Guyana!!!!!!!

Sad how that place went from a Utopia to a Dystopia overnight.

Dave posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Let's be fair & square; drug trade didn't start under AFC/PNC. It started long before. And the easy money culture is now "traditional" in the Tradewinds sense. It's widespread in all ten regions. According to the old saw, monkey see monkey do. According to Granger, he inherited a monkey on his back. He was referring to Venezuela but he could have added narcotics problem too.

Comrade Gill, Drug trades and money laundering has been around before PPP government, it escalate during PPP days because of technology ( cell phone ) easy communication for the drug mules.

The 1st person in Suriname to be busted and given a long prison sentence for shipping cocaine into Suriname was one of my former brother in law, who happened to have been married into the Bouterse clan as well. Bouterse sprung my brother in law from prison during the military coup in Suriname, since they are also family members by marriage. Bouterse was also a friend of Jagdeo.
So it is possible that the PPP were not yet in government when the cocaine link with Guyana got established, but that doesn't mean that it didn't start with the help of the PPP.

Dave posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Let's be fair & square; drug trade didn't start under AFC/PNC. It started long before. And the easy money culture is now "traditional" in the Tradewinds sense. It's widespread in all ten regions. According to the old saw, monkey see monkey do. According to Granger, he inherited a monkey on his back. He was referring to Venezuela but he could have added narcotics problem too.

Comrade Gill, Drug trades and money laundering has been around before PPP government, it escalate during PPP days because of technology ( cell phone ) easy communication for the drug mules. 

We learn how widespread it was because of the media / computer. Look around the world and see what period gun violence and drugs spiral out of control. 

Guyana had zero junkie when the PPP entered office. Now they are in every village. The PPP deliberated aided and abetted the trade by refusing to regularize the banking system, allow the US access to these drug king pins and permit the DEA to operate in guyana. Drug money and smuggling funded every main street in Guyana. Guyana in the past two decades was like Miami in the 80's; tacit understanding of where development funds originated.

GTAngler posted:

Nehru posted:

PNC Guyana is a drug and crime infested Guyana!!!!!!!

Sad how that place went from a Utopia to a Dystopia overnight.

It started downhill since Independence with crime, when the PPP with BJ took over leadership, the drug problems blossomed.

Let’s stop pointing fingers. What’s the SOLUTION. 

Dave posted:

Let’s stop pointing fingers. What’s the SOLUTION. 

SAY NO TO DRUGS

Solutions are only possible after people are willing to accept responsibility and place blame where it deserves to be placed. As far as some of you are concerned, all Guyana's problems surface overnight whenever there is a change in government and it's not the party you support. It's always the other people did it. We need to get past this first.

There was some talk about a bike racer (Viera) who was into the drug runnings but heard no more on this. The problem is somewhere along the line the big guys are being protected and they are catching the small fries.

Mr.T posted:

Dave posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Let's be fair & square; drug trade didn't start under AFC/PNC. It started long before. And the easy money culture is now "traditional" in the Tradewinds sense. It's widespread in all ten regions. According to the old saw, monkey see monkey do. According to Granger, he inherited a monkey on his back. He was referring to Venezuela but he could have added narcotics problem too.

Comrade Gill, Drug trades and money laundering has been around before PPP government, it escalate during PPP days because of technology ( cell phone ) easy communication for the drug mules.

The 1st person in Suriname to be busted and given a long prison sentence for shipping cocaine into Suriname was one of my former brother in law, who happened to have been married into the Bouterse clan as well. Bouterse sprung my brother in law from prison during the military coup in Suriname, since they are also family members by marriage. Bouterse was also a friend of Jagdeo.
So it is possible that the PPP were not yet in government when the cocaine link with Guyana got established, but that doesn't mean that it didn't start with the help of the PPP.

Bouterse and family seems to have extend family and friends with everyone in Guyana. 

US arrests son of Suriname’s president

Posted by: GxMedia in NewsAugust 30, 20130 Comments

Dino Bouterse

Dino Bouterse, son of  Suriname’s president, Desi Bouterse,  was arrested Thursday by the United States (US)  judicial authorities, the Surinamese news website, Starniews reported Friday.

 

This  happened in Panama. Officially, there are no announcements made about the reason for his arrest. Star News learns that the Americans suspect him of arms trafficking. 

Starniews reported that Bouterse might have been entrapped during a conversation about a possible arms shipment.

The U.S. has formally notified the Surinamese  government.

Dino Bouterse’s links with the Guyanese village of Buxton, then a haven for heavily armed gangs had also caught the attention of the Guyana government.

In a  Wikileaked cable from  then US Ambassador to Guyana, Roland Bullen, he had noted that “Desi Bouterse’s son Dino organized a Surinamese soccer team’s trip to Buxton a few years ago. It is believed that the team bus carried weapons to Buxton.”

http://demerarawaves.com/2013/...uriname-s-president/

GTAngler posted:

Solutions are only possible after people are willing to accept responsibility and place blame where it deserves to be placed. As far as some of you are concerned, all Guyana's problems surface overnight whenever there is a change in government and it's not the party you support. It's always the other people did it. We need to get past this first.

Drugs has nothing to do with a particular race. Every race is involve. 

Everyone in Guyana knows the head of the drug operations in MOST  case are Indians, who use mules as the courier.

its destroying our children lives. If there is evidence to jail any politicians involve, I would say Stone their arss  to death.  

I'm keeping far from Dave because he stones people to death. 

Leonora posted:

I'm keeping far from Dave because he stones people to death. 

In other words, you're keeping far from Dave's stones?????

If the PPP is responsible for the drug problem in Guyana then please tell us who is responsible for the drug problem in the entire English Speaking Caribbean?

Dave posted:

Mitwah posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Dave posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Let's be fair & square; drug trade didn't start under AFC/PNC. It started long before. And the easy money culture is now "traditional" in the Tradewinds sense. It's widespread in all ten regions. According to the old saw, monkey see monkey do. According to Granger, he inherited a monkey on his back. He was referring to Venezuela but he could have added narcotics problem too.

Comrade Gill, Drug trades and money laundering has been around before PPP government, it escalate during PPP days because of technology ( cell phone ) easy communication for the drug mules. 

We learn how widespread it was because of the media / computer. Look around the world and see what period gun violence and drugs spiral out of control. 

You are correct. Ah de same ting me seh in different words. Read am back.

He deliberately left out how the drug lords enjoyed protection under the PPP regime.

Who is providing protection now. 

 

Excellent question. The PPP is not in office so the AFC weeder Gang can no longer blame the PPP. 

They are scared or dharpoke to direct their questions at the PNC. 

Yuji the ass kissing, batty washing Namakaram crabdaag will eat shit for SUV and FREE House!!!!!!!!!!

Leonora posted:

I'm keeping far from Dave because he stones people to death. 

He is one of those musalman. 

Nehru posted:

Yuji the ass kissing, batty washing Namakaram crabdaag will eat shit for SUV and FREE House!!!!!!!!!!

Bhai, look how he quiet now. He only barks when congress place orders him to do so. This is what he reduced himself to. 

yuji22 posted:

Nehru posted:

Yuji the ass kissing, batty washing Namakaram crabdaag will eat shit for SUV and FREE House!!!!!!!!!!

Bhai, look how he quiet now. He only barks when congress place orders him to do so. This is what he reduced himself to. 

Well, shameless DOGS only know to bark on their own. Typical Namakaram Crabdaag!!!

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

If the PPP is responsible for the drug problem in Guyana then please tell us who is responsible for the drug problem in the entire English Speaking Caribbean?

What's the relevance?

D2 posted:

Dave posted:

Gilbakka posted:

Let's be fair & square; drug trade didn't start under AFC/PNC. It started long before. And the easy money culture is now "traditional" in the Tradewinds sense. It's widespread in all ten regions. According to the old saw, monkey see monkey do. According to Granger, he inherited a monkey on his back. He was referring to Venezuela but he could have added narcotics problem too.

Comrade Gill, Drug trades and money laundering has been around before PPP government, it escalate during PPP days because of technology ( cell phone ) easy communication for the drug mules. 

We learn how widespread it was because of the media / computer. Look around the world and see what period gun violence and drugs spiral out of control. 

Guyana had zero junkie when the PPP entered office. Now they are in every village. The PPP deliberated aided and abetted the trade by refusing to regularize the banking system, allow the US access to these drug king pins and permit the DEA to operate in guyana. Drug money and smuggling funded every main street in Guyana. Guyana in the past two decades was like Miami in the 80's; tacit understanding of where development funds originated.

It was PPP who signed the agreement with US for a DEA office. When the financial bill was table to pass in parliament, the opposition then PNC vote it down.

APNU+AFC called out over disingenuous stances on AML/CFT Bill

A financial sector held back. This was President Donald Ramotar’s summation when he commented on the non-passage of the Anti-Money Laundering and Countering the Financing of Terrorism (AML/CFT) (Amendment) Bill and Guyana’s consequent shortcomings on the issue of international compliance.The consequences of the strangled Bill by the political Opposition continue to be felt by the average Guyanese and, importantly, continue to impact the expansion of the country’s financial sector.

“Ensuring the passage of the Anti-Money Laundering and Countering the Financing of Terrorism Bill is another reason to go to elections. We have to pass the bill to protect our financial sector,” Mr. Ramotar stressed, in a recent interview.

Three years of political gridlock was culminated by the November 10, 2014, prorogation of Parliament and its subsequent dissolution, which paved the way for the General and Regional elections on May 11.
The President said, “They (the political Opposition) want to prevent our people from having all this….this is what they have been targeting, areas that affect masses of people in the society.
“…they are focused on creating as much damage, putting as many impediments in place to progress….I can only assume that they will drive this country to its knees…I believe they think it will improve their political fortunes.”

“ENSURING THE PASSAGE OF THE ANTI-MONEY LAUNDERING AND COUNTERING THE FINANCING OF TERRORISM BILL IS ANOTHER REASON TO GO TO ELECTIONS. WE HAVE TO PASS THE BILL TO PROTECT OUR FINANCIAL SECTOR.” – PRESIDENT DONALD RAMOTAR

FLIP FLOP
Noteworthy is that given the positions taken by A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) and the Alliance For Change (AFC), in the National Assembly, the newly coalesced Alliance, at its launch, promised the passage of the AML/CFT Bill.
The coalition partners promised that this will happen with the formation of a Government of national unity.
Both APNU and AFC had linked conditionalities to their support for passage of the AML/CFT (Amendment) Bill.
APNU proposed three amendments, which were included in the Party’s draft amendments to the Principal AML/CFT Act, which President Donald Ramotar said would be supported by his Government if the Party would agree to pass the AML/CFT (Amendment) Bill. This was rejected.
On the other hand, the AFC, which was fully behind APNU’s position, demanded the establishment of the Public Procurement Commission (PPC), which the Government has agreed to, providing that Cabinet retains its no-objection role in the process. However, the latter position was rejected by the AFC.
In a further change of position, on May 29, 2014, after the announcement by the Caribbean Financial Action Task Force (CFATF), the AFC, in a statement, noted that it is now willing to budge on its position and support Cabinet’s retention of its no-objection role.
NO SHAME
All considered, Mr. Ramotar, also the incumbent Party’s presidential candidate, charged that the political Opposition have “no shame.”
“One thing we saw with PNC (People’s National Congress)-APNU and now with the AFC is the lack of shame, they have absolutely no shame. They do not care about integrity,” he said.
He agreed that to not support the passage of AML/CFT Bill when there was an opportunity to do so, then promise the passage of the Bill if elected, is disingenuous.
“To not pass the Bill meant opening up our country to criminal elements…what we have had to do is ensure that all the non-legislative actions that could close the compliance gap are in place,” the President said.
While challenges remain, in the absence of legislation, Mr. Ramotar said that efforts have been made and recognised by the international oversight bodies.

Guyana, at the end of February, was deemed to have made progress with the non-legislative actions needed to improve its compliance, relative to the anti-money laundering and countering the financing of terrorism framework. Therefore the country did not have to field a delegation to the Financial Action Task Force’s (FATF) most recent five-day plenary in Paris.
Since Guyana was regionally blacklisted by the Caribbean Financial Action Task Force in November 2013, for not having legislation in place, the country was referred to the international watchdog body and subjected to a targeted review.
Under that review, an action plan detailing several non-legislative actions to improve compliance was proposed and September 2015 was set at the drop-dead date for enacting legislation.
The Anti-Money Laundering and Countering the Financing of Terrorism (AML/CFT) (Amendment) Bill to meet CFATF’s and, by extension, FATF’s requirements was first tabled in the National Assembly in April 2013, but was referred to a Parliamentary Special Select Committee and was eventually voted down by the combined Opposition in November 2013. The Bill was re-tabled in December 2013, and was again referred to the Parliamentary Special Select Committee, where it languished.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...ances-on-amlcft-bill

I would suggest you provide any evidence of drugs operation to the DEA, the operators need to be expose. It’s time man, how long more we gon wait. 

Dave,

"It was PPP who signed the agreement with US for a DEA office. When the financial bill was table to pass in parliament, the opposition then PNC vote it down."

You are mixing up the

AML/CFT Bill and the DEA Office.

Guyana gov’t, US sign MOU on narcotics investigative unit

Django posted:

Dave,

You are mixing up the

AML/CFT Bill and the DEA Office.

Guyana gov’t, US sign MOU on narcotics investigative unit

Friday, December 11, 2015

GEORGETOWN, Guyana (CMC) — The government of Guyana has signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the United States for the operation of a vetted counter-narcotic investigative unit programme.

The Vice President and Minister of Public Security Khemraj Ramjattan and US Ambassador to Guyana Perry Halloway signed the MOU on Wednesday.

The Vetted Unit Program of the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) is to train, equip and provide necessary assistance to partner countries so specialised units in those countries can meet certain standards and increase capacity in integrity, professionalism, and competence in fighting drug crime

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com...ve-unit-------_45158

Left: President Donald Ramotar has welcomed the opening of a US DEA office in Guyana. Right: Brent Hardt, US ambassador to Guyana, expects that the office will be set up sooner than later.

Guyana is on track to become the eighth Caribbean territory to host a US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) office.

 

The Guyana office follows already established offices in Barbados, Curacao, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Jamaica,

Suriname, and Trinidad and Tobago.

 

The announcement of this new agreement between the USA and Guyana was made during a press conference, held in Guyana Thursday 26th June and hosted by President Donald Ramotar and US ambassador to Guyana, Brent Hardt.

The office will be stationed at the US embassy in Georgetown.

 

Ambassador Hardt noted that the US DEA has been working very closely with Guyana’s Police Force and Customs Anti-Narcotics Unit (CANU) from its office in Trinidad.

 

He is anticipating that the DEA office on the ground in Guyana, will take the counter-narcotic co-operation in the region to a higher level, and he gave indication that the office is to be set up as soon as possible, since the equipment is on its way to Guyana and the personnel have already been identified.

 

President Ramotar welcomed the office, saying that it is in keeping with his government’s intention to "make our country totally inhospitable towards those who try to use it to traffic drug and those types of illegal activities.”

The President also took the opportunity to underscore the importance of (his country) passing the Anti-Money Laundering and Countering the Financing of Terrorism Bill (AML/CFT), "...to fight against laundering of illegal money, fundamentally from drug trafficking.”

 

The passage into law of the AML/CFT Bill is muddled by internal politics, not least being the result of a situation in which Donald Ramotar was elected President but the majority of votes in the legislature is in the hands of two opposition parties which have resisted passage of the Bill.

 

The Bill proposed for Guyana is considered to be standard throughout the Caribbean. (Source: Caribbean News Now)

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

If the PPP is responsible for the drug problem in Guyana then please tell us who is responsible for the drug problem in the entire English Speaking Caribbean?

PPP!

The Ramotar gov't welcomed the DEA Office,his Gov't didn't sign the

MOU on narcotics investigative unit

Leonora posted:

I'm keeping far from Dave because he stones people to death. 

eh ehhh gyal you see story? De banna wan take over my stonin' wuk.

Document for document, Dave dishing out reports as fast as Django furnishes them.

Dave posted:

I would suggest you provide any evidence of drugs operation to the DEA, the operators need to be expose. It’s time man, how long more we gon wait. 

Who refused the DEA Access? Who went to court to prevent the extradition of datadin? Under whose watch the state saw the rise of those like brahama and the dozen the US has in jail? Note RK was a petty gun dealer in the US who jumped bail and went to guyana to become one of the richest people in less than five years? You can deny it all you want but the reality of the PPP giving wink wink to the rise of a parallel underground economy funded by drugs was the reality. After rebuffing the US for two decades there is no consolation in their getting on board when their behinds were being threatened with being booted.