Mits,

who are these folks who want to re-write history.

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

Django posted:

Mits,

who are these folks who want to re-write history.

I don't know them personally. I am in the west end so I don't have any interactions with them.

Mitwah posted:

Django posted:

Mits,

who are these folks who want to re-write history.

I don't know them personally. I am in the west end so I don't have any interactions with them.

Ok cool.

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

Of the five reported murdered, three are my relatives ...

1. Richard Khan -- my cousin.

2. Issac Bridgewater -- my godfather.

3. Paul Mirgin -- a relative.

The other two individuals named are ...

a. Byron Wharton -- suffered burns from a burning building.

b. Gussie English -- shot by the police for looting.

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

Gill,

I do hope the group will tell the truth and don't twist the facts that caused the Wismar crisis.

I have watched about 2/3 of the video and have some reservations about some of the speakers portrayal of the crisis.There are lots of of info on GNI, and recently i found other info on the web.

Demerara_Guy posted:

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

Of the five reported murdered, three are my relatives ...

1. Richard Khan -- my cousin.

2. Issac Bridgewater -- my godfather.

3. Paul Mirgin -- a relative.

The other two individuals named are ...

a. Byron Wharton -- suffered burns from a burning building.

b. Gussie English -- shot by the police for looting.

Dem_Guy,

I assume a and b are Afros ?

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

This is a total coverup.  I met a woman in NJ years ago who never found her husband’s body as such he is not counted. 

RH Car brought the victims by the dozens to Atkinson Field, many women/young girls with the most brutal of sex crimes.  So it was not only the five bodies found.

But count on people like you to run from history.  Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it!

Baseman posted:

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

This is a total coverup.  I met a woman in NJ years ago who never found her husband’s body as such he is not counted. 

RH Car brought the victims by the dozens to Atkinson Field, many women/young girls with the most brutal of sex crimes.  So it was not only the five bodies found.

But count on people like you to run from history.  Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it!

Base,

who cover the events of the crisis ? the British ?

Django posted:

Demerara_Guy posted:

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

Of the five reported murdered, three are my relatives ...

1. Richard Khan -- my cousin.

2. Issac Bridgewater -- my godfather.

3. Paul Mirgin -- a relative.

The other two individuals named are ...

a. Byron Wharton -- suffered burns from a burning building.

b. Gussie English -- shot by the police for looting.

Dem_Guy,

I assume a and b are Afros ?

Correct Django.

Django posted:

Baseman posted:

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

This is a total coverup.  I met a woman in NJ years ago who never found her husband’s body as such he is not counted. 

RH Car brought the victims by the dozens to Atkinson Field, many women/young girls with the most brutal of sex crimes.  So it was not only the five bodies found.

But count on people like you to run from history.  Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it!

Base,

who cover the events of the crisis ? the British ?

Yes. They did and so did wuss Jagan.  My uncles told me of the disagreement they had with jagan over this.  Jagan was afraid of an Indian backlash.  

It was also a Black woman who told us some of what she saw.  She said she was ashamed of her race!

Demerara_Guy posted:

Django posted:

Demerara_Guy posted:

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

Of the five reported murdered, three are my relatives ...

1. Richard Khan -- my cousin.

2. Issac Bridgewater -- my godfather.

3. Paul Mirgin -- a relative.

The other two individuals named are ...

a. Byron Wharton -- suffered burns from a burning building.

b. Gussie English -- shot by the police for looting.

Dem_Guy,

I assume a and b are Afros ?

Correct Django.

Thank you.

So then three East Indians were reported murdered.

Baseman posted:

Django posted:

Baseman posted:

 

This is a total coverup.  I met a woman in NJ years ago who never found her husband’s body as such he is not counted. 

RH Car brought the victims by the dozens to Atkinson Field, many women/young girls with the most brutal of sex crimes.  So it was not only the five bodies found.

But count on people like you to run from history.  Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it!

Base,

who cover the events of the crisis ? the British ?

Yes. They did and so did wuss Jagan.  My uncles told me of the disagreement they had with jagan over this.  Jagan was afraid of an Indian backlash.  

It was also a Black woman who told us some of what she saw.  She said she was ashamed of her race!

REPORT OF THE WISMAR, CHRISTIANBURG AND MACKENZIE COMMISSION

http://www.guyana.org/features/wismar_report.html

So this report didn't gave a true picture of the Wismar crisis ?

Demerara_Guy posted:

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

Of the five reported murdered, three are my relatives ...

1. Richard Khan -- my cousin.

2. Issac Bridgewater -- my godfather.

3. Paul Mirgin -- a relative.

The other two individuals named are ...

a. Byron Wharton -- suffered burns from a burning building.

b. Gussie English -- shot by the police for looting.

I think Demerara Guy's godfather Issac Bridgewater (whose daughter I believe was a Senator)  had his head completely chopped off by an ax.  

Django posted:

Demerara_Guy posted:

Django posted:

Demerara_Guy posted:

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

Of the five reported murdered, three are my relatives ...

1. Richard Khan -- my cousin.

2. Issac Bridgewater -- my godfather.

3. Paul Mirgin -- a relative.

The other two individuals named are ...

a. Byron Wharton -- suffered burns from a burning building.

b. Gussie English -- shot by the police for looting.

Dem_Guy,

I assume a and b are Afros ?

Correct Django.

Thank you.

So then three East Indians were reported murdered.

You are welcome Django.

Two points which I have written on past articles on this issue ...

1. While the incidents were conducted by Afro-Guyanese, it must be noted that the extremely large majority of Afro-Guyanese were disgusted and appalled at what was/were happening.

2. My other godfather, who is an Afro-Guyanese, personally took a boat with a number of friends and went across the river to rescue a number of Indo-Guyanese females and brought them to safety at MacKenzie.

Prashad posted:

Demerara_Guy posted:

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

Of the five reported murdered, three are my relatives ...

1. Richard Khan -- my cousin.

2. Issac Bridgewater -- my godfather.

3. Paul Mirgin -- a relative.

The other two individuals named are ...

a. Byron Wharton -- suffered burns from a burning building.

b. Gussie English -- shot by the police for looting.

I think Demerara Guy's godfather Issac Bridgewater (whose daughter I believe was a Senator)  had his head completely chopped off by an ax.  

Correct ... and that happened around midnight.

Demerara_Guy posted:

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

Of the five reported murdered, three are my relatives ...

1. Richard Khan -- my cousin.

2. Issac Bridgewater -- my godfather.

3. Paul Mirgin -- a relative.

The other two individuals named are ...

a. Byron Wharton -- suffered burns from a burning building.

b. Gussie English -- shot by the police for looting.

Thanks D_G. Bridgewater was related to PPP Senator Christina Ramjattan who later worked at Freedom House until she retired.

When this new research group publishes its findings we shall know how many persons were killed and their names hopefully.

Gilbakka posted:

Demerara_Guy posted:

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

Of the five reported murdered, three are my relatives ...

1. Richard Khan -- my cousin.

2. Issac Bridgewater -- my godfather.

3. Paul Mirgin -- a relative.

The other two individuals named are ...

a. Byron Wharton -- suffered burns from a burning building.

b. Gussie English -- shot by the police for looting.

Thanks D_G. Bridgewater was related to PPP Senator Christina Ramjattan who later worked at Freedom House until she retired.

Bridgewater was Christina's father .

Gilbakka posted:

When this new research group publishes its findings we shall know how many persons were killed and their names hopefully.

It’s all a black wash to rewrite history and to cast doubt that much actually happened.  Many victims and witnesses are nowhere to be found or long dead.

For example, the Black woman who told us what she saw died in NY about five year ago.  

PNC will get some benign report published and Alyuh coolies just shut up and move on.

Demerara_Guy posted:

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

Of the five reported murdered, three are my relatives ...

1. Richard Khan -- my cousin.

2. Issac Bridgewater -- my godfather.

3. Paul Mirgin -- a relative.

The other two individuals named are ...

a. Byron Wharton -- suffered burns from a burning building.

b. Gussie English -- shot by the police for looting.

You were a PNC man at the time. Did you shop those relatives to the mob? How come people like my family and hundreds of thousands others had to flee for their lives and lost everything except the clothes on our back whilst you managed to escape the trouble and still hang about.

Mr.T posted:

Demerara_Guy posted:

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

Of the five reported murdered, three are my relatives ...

1. Richard Khan -- my cousin.

2. Issac Bridgewater -- my godfather.

3. Paul Mirgin -- a relative.

The other two individuals named are ...

a. Byron Wharton -- suffered burns from a burning building.

b. Gussie English -- shot by the police for looting.

You were a PNC man at the time. Did you shop those relatives to the mob? How come people like my family and hundreds of thousands others had to flee for their lives and lost everything except the clothes on our back whilst you managed to escape the trouble and still hang about.

Very sick and warped thought.

Baseman posted:

Gilbakka posted:

When this new research group publishes its findings we shall know how many persons were killed and their names hopefully.

It’s all a black wash to rewrite history and to cast doubt that much actually happened.  Many victims and witnesses are nowhere to be found or long dead.

For example, the Black woman who told us what she saw died in NY about five year ago.  

PNC will get some benign report published and Alyuh coolies just shut up and move on.

Bhai,

where blacks and the PNC are involved in rewriting history.The group are East Indians from Canada,whose intent is to give their own narrative of the events that occurred at Wismar.They are exploring that those events correlate with the mass migration of East Indians to N.A and other Countries.

I would suggest they group read below,there are 19 days of testimony of the Wismar crisis Inquiry.

The Wismar Report Transcripts

http://www.guyana.org/features/wr_transcripts.html

Baseman posted:

Django posted:

Baseman posted:

Gilbakka posted:

What happened at Wismar in 1964 was a heinous tragedy but, given that only 5 persons were murdered, the word "massacre" is not apt. Massacre is mass murder. There was a mass exodus unprecedented in Guyana, however. Nothing wrong with a new research group. The contacts are university graduates and I am puzzled at their choice of the word "massacre". I wish the group well in its research and look forward to publication of its report.

This is a total coverup.  I met a woman in NJ years ago who never found her husband’s body as such he is not counted. 

RH Car brought the victims by the dozens to Atkinson Field, many women/young girls with the most brutal of sex crimes.  So it was not only the five bodies found.

But count on people like you to run from history.  Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it!

Base,

who cover the events of the crisis ? the British ?

Yes. They did and so did wuss Jagan.  My uncles told me of the disagreement they had with jagan over this.  Jagan was afraid of an Indian backlash.  

well, the "backlash" did happen . . . in spite of "wuss Jagan" 

aren't you and your "uncles" proud?

Django posted:

Baseman posted:

Gilbakka posted:

When this new research group publishes its findings we shall know how many persons were killed and their names hopefully.

It’s all a black wash to rewrite history and to cast doubt that much actually happened.  Many victims and witnesses are nowhere to be found or long dead.

For example, the Black woman who told us what she saw died in NY about five year ago.  

PNC will get some benign report published and Alyuh coolies just shut up and move on.

Bhai,

where blacks and the PNC are involved in rewriting history.The group are East Indians from Canada,whose intent is to give their own narrative of the events that occurred at Wismar.They are exploring that those events correlate with the mass migration of East Indians to N.A and other Countries.

I would suggest they group read below,there are 19 days of testimony of the Wismar crisis Inquiry.

The Wismar Report Transcripts

http://www.guyana.org/features/wr_transcripts.html

You see this is what I mean. When Indians write for Indians, Y'all bring up all dem ginkaka bring ram goat story. When Negroes write for Negroes, it's the fault of the PPP the Negroes are the way they are. Negroes are entitled to everything and anything they want in Guyana, even if they each request two Indians as house slaves.

My wife mom and Siblings were  born in Wismar and survive this tragedy, some were left with missing limbs  and eyes  . One of the uncle who was a teacher in US ( retire ) detail the entire episode ( like a book ) the graphic details are worst than what is written. 

@ DJ their last name is Ramcomar if you knew them. 

skeldon_man posted:

 

You see this is what I mean. When Indians write for Indians, Y'all bring up all dem ginkaka bring ram goat story. When Negroes write for Negroes, it's the fault of the PPP the Negroes are the way they are. Negroes are entitled to everything and anything they want in Guyana, even if they each request two Indians as house slaves.

Bhaiya,

pay attention to what the group trying to achieve,watch the video.

Point out where Africans in Guyana are trying to rewrite history of the crisis.

Dave posted:

My wife mom and Siblings were  born in Wismar and survive this tragedy, some were left with missing limbs  and eyes  . One of the uncle who was a teacher in US ( retire ) detail the entire episode ( like a book ) the graphic details are worst than what is written. 

@ DJ their last name is Ramcomar if you knew them. 

I now Benjie Ramcomar [passed away ],from La Jalousie WCD,was a teacher at Hague Back and Cornelia Ida schools.

Django posted:

Dave posted:

My wife mom and Siblings were  born in Wismar and survive this tragedy, some were left with missing limbs  and eyes  . One of the uncle who was a teacher in US ( retire ) detail the entire episode ( like a book ) the graphic details are worst than what is written. 

@ DJ their last name is Ramcomar if you knew them. 

I now a Benjie Ramcomar,from La Jalousie WCD,was a teacher at Hague Back and Cornelia Ida schools.

Not that first name. 

Dave posted:

Django posted:

Dave posted:

My wife mom and Siblings were  born in Wismar and survive this tragedy, some were left with missing limbs  and eyes  . One of the uncle who was a teacher in US ( retire ) detail the entire episode ( like a book ) the graphic details are worst than what is written. 

@ DJ their last name is Ramcomar if you knew them. 

I now a Benjie Ramcomar,from La Jalousie WCD,was a teacher at Hague Back and Cornelia Ida schools.

Not that first name. 

Ok cool.

Django posted:

Mits,

who are these folks who want to re-write history.

This is rewriting history. Wanting and rewriting are two different events.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaKCy-pWcXo

Django posted:

skeldon_man posted:

 

You see this is what I mean. When Indians write for Indians, Y'all bring up all dem ginkaka bring ram goat story. When Negroes write for Negroes, it's the fault of the PPP the Negroes are the way they are. Negroes are entitled to everything and anything they want in Guyana, even if they each request two Indians as house slaves.

Bhaiya,

pay attention to what the group trying to achieve,watch the video.

Point out where Africans in Guyana are trying to rewrite history of the crisis.

I don't have hours to sit here and watch this.

i would pay attention to what D_G has to say on this matter

he is very close to these events, and respects his murdered relatives enough to present the facts and not dishonor their memory with lies and revisionist race demagoguery

skeldon_man and baseman, here, are beyond shame

ronan posted:

i would pay attention to what D_G has to say on this matter

he is very close to these events, and respects his murdered relatives enough to present the facts and not dishonor their memory with lies and revisionist race demagoguery

skeldon_man and baseman, here, are beyond shame

Why? Because we know PNC Negroes kill PPP supporters and their families? You might be too young to know what transpired. Maybe you were brainwashed by your relatives blaming the PPP.

Dave posted:

My wife mom and Siblings were  born in Wismar and survive this tragedy, some were left with missing limbs  and eyes  . One of the uncle who was a teacher in US ( retire ) detail the entire episode ( like a book ) the graphic details are worst than what is written. 

@ DJ their last name is Ramcomar if you knew them. 

My parents also knew one of the doctors is Georgetown hospital who treated some of the victims.  He said the brutality and inhumane acts were beyond description.  A few young girls were so badly sexually mutilated they could never have kids of their own.

That episode was worse than just the five bodies they like to reference.  

skeldon_man posted:

Django posted:

skeldon_man posted:

 

You see this is what I mean. When Indians write for Indians, Y'all bring up all dem ginkaka bring ram goat story. When Negroes write for Negroes, it's the fault of the PPP the Negroes are the way they are. Negroes are entitled to everything and anything they want in Guyana, even if they each request two Indians as house slaves.

Bhaiya,

pay attention to what the group trying to achieve,watch the video.

Point out where Africans in Guyana are trying to rewrite history of the crisis.

I don't have hours to sit here and watch this.

Suh how will you justify your comments,what the group wants to achieve.

skeldon_man posted:

ronan posted:

i would pay attention to what D_G has to say on this matter

he is very close to these events, and respects his murdered relatives enough to present the facts and not dishonor their memory with lies and revisionist race demagoguery

skeldon_man and baseman, here, are beyond shame

Why? Because we know PNC Negroes kill PPP supporters and their families? You might be too young to know what transpired. Maybe you were brainwashed by your relatives blaming the PPP.

i know way more about these events than you and baseman combined . . . let's just leave it at that

ronan posted:

i would pay attention to what D_G has to say on this matter

he is very close to these events, and respects his murdered relatives enough to present the facts and not dishonor their memory with lies and revisionist race demagoguery

skeldon_man and baseman, here, are beyond shame

Banna, the stories a black woman related to us was way beyond the five killed.  How about the bodies never found. 

D_G five count suits you well.  It  trivializes what really happened!

ronan posted:

skeldon_man posted:

ronan posted:

i would pay attention to what D_G has to say on this matter

he is very close to these events, and respects his murdered relatives enough to present the facts and not dishonor their memory with lies and revisionist race demagoguery

skeldon_man and baseman, here, are beyond shame

Why? Because we know PNC Negroes kill PPP supporters and their families? You might be too young to know what transpired. Maybe you were brainwashed by your relatives blaming the PPP.

i know way more about these events than you and baseman combined . . . let's just leave it at that

You know what you want to know!