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Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:

You are no longer a Hindu. It is not your name anymore.

Says who? Is there an authority that decides what name a person HAS to use?

Okay then why don't you call yourself Muhammed Iqbal and then practice Kashmir Brahmin Hinduism and see if you would not get a fatwa on your head.

That's your rationale? If people don't comply with your demand to change their names, you will put a fatwa on their heads?

A
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:

You are no longer a Hindu. It is not your name anymore.

Says who? Is there an authority that decides what name a person HAS to use?

Okay then why don't you call yourself Muhammed Iqbal and then practice Kashmir Brahmin Hinduism and see if you would not get a fatwa on your head.

That's your rationale? If people don't comply with your demand to change their names, you will put a fatwa on their heads?

It is not about me putting a fatwa on their heads. They should do the right thing and change their names to reflect the new reality of the new religion that they have adopted.  You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Prashad

Many Hindu men will be pissed off now. They marry Muslim and Jewish girls but in order to marry these Abrahamic girls they have to convert. But they prefer to hide behind the Hindu name to fool people that they have not converted when in reality they did.

Prashad
Prashad posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Prashad posted:

Secular Hindus of Guyana are people who are ashamed of being Hindus because the Artificial Englishman West Indian culture looks down upon them as inferior but they cannot bring themselves to leaving Hinduism and becoming Christians.

So, if I was born a Hindu and don't practise Hinduism or believe in any religion, I am a secular Hindu?

You are a secular Hindu as long as you do not convert to another religion.

I prefer to be labeled as a secular Hindu before you call me an Arab Dry Goods Salesman. Whew!! I can now stop stressing.
Does being married to a Christian woman change that secular Hindu label?

FM
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:

You are no longer a Hindu. It is not your name anymore.

Says who? Is there an authority that decides what name a person HAS to use?

Okay then why don't you call yourself Muhammed Iqbal and then practice Kashmir Brahmin Hinduism and see if you would not get a fatwa on your head.

That's your rationale? If people don't comply with your demand to change their names, you will put a fatwa on their heads?

It is not about me putting a fatwa on their heads. They should do the right thing and change their names to reflect the new reality of the new religion that they have adopted.  You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Who decided that that is the right thing to do? What does a name have to do with which god you worship? Do Muslim, Hindu, and Christian Gods recognize their devotees by name?

A
Mitwah posted:

Prashad, Dilip Kumar is a Muslim. I can name you a few more.

Dilip Kumar is not his legal name. It is just his stage name. His real name is Mohammad Yusuf Khan and he never converted to Hinduism.

Prashad
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:

You are no longer a Hindu. It is not your name anymore.

Says who? Is there an authority that decides what name a person HAS to use?

Okay then why don't you call yourself Muhammed Iqbal and then practice Kashmir Brahmin Hinduism and see if you would not get a fatwa on your head.

That's your rationale? If people don't comply with your demand to change their names, you will put a fatwa on their heads?

It is not about me putting a fatwa on their heads. They should do the right thing and change their names to reflect the new reality of the new religion that they have adopted.  You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Who decided that that is the right thing to do? What does a name have to do with which god you worship? Do Muslim, Hindu, and Christian Gods recognize their devotees by name?

As I said before call yourself Muhammed Iqbal and then practice Kashmir Brahmin Hinduism in Kashmir and see what happens.

Prashad
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:

You are no longer a Hindu. It is not your name anymore.

Says who? Is there an authority that decides what name a person HAS to use?

Okay then why don't you call yourself Muhammed Iqbal and then practice Kashmir Brahmin Hinduism and see if you would not get a fatwa on your head.

That's your rationale? If people don't comply with your demand to change their names, you will put a fatwa on their heads?

It is not about me putting a fatwa on their heads. They should do the right thing and change their names to reflect the new reality of the new religion that they have adopted.  You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Who decided that that is the right thing to do? What does a name have to do with which god you worship? Do Muslim, Hindu, and Christian Gods recognize their devotees by name?

As I said before call yourself Muhammed Iqbal and then practice Kashmir Brahmin Hinduism in Kashmir and see what happens.

I guess that means my questions blew holes in your argument.

A
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:

You are no longer a Hindu. It is not your name anymore.

Says who? Is there an authority that decides what name a person HAS to use?

Okay then why don't you call yourself Muhammed Iqbal and then practice Kashmir Brahmin Hinduism and see if you would not get a fatwa on your head.

That's your rationale? If people don't comply with your demand to change their names, you will put a fatwa on their heads?

It is not about me putting a fatwa on their heads. They should do the right thing and change their names to reflect the new reality of the new religion that they have adopted.  You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Who decided that that is the right thing to do? What does a name have to do with which god you worship? Do Muslim, Hindu, and Christian Gods recognize their devotees by name?

As I said before call yourself Muhammed Iqbal and then practice Kashmir Brahmin Hinduism in Kashmir and see what happens.

I guess that means my questions blew holes in your argument.

I think you got it back to front. If you call yourself Muhammed Iqbal and then practice Kashmir Brahmin Hinduism in Kashmir then them fellows will blow holes in you.

Prashad
Prashad posted:
Mitwah posted:

Prashad, Dilip Kumar is a Muslim. I can name you a few more.

Dilip Kumar is not his legal name. It is just his stage name. His real name is Mohammad Yusuf Khan and he never converted to Hinduism.

Sharukh performs Ganesh Pooja every morning. And then there is that Muslim Dharmendra. 

Mitwah

Sharukh Khan and A.P.J. Abdul Kalam does not fit into Prashad's argument because both men claim to be Hindu and Muslim.  Both would go to Ashrams and Mosques. No Pandit or Imam will tell those two men to leave.

 

Prashad
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Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:
antabanta posted:
Prashad posted:

You are no longer a Hindu. It is not your name anymore.

Says who? Is there an authority that decides what name a person HAS to use?

Okay then why don't you call yourself Muhammed Iqbal and then practice Kashmir Brahmin Hinduism and see if you would not get a fatwa on your head.

That's your rationale? If people don't comply with your demand to change their names, you will put a fatwa on their heads?

It is not about me putting a fatwa on their heads. They should do the right thing and change their names to reflect the new reality of the new religion that they have adopted.  You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Who decided that that is the right thing to do? What does a name have to do with which god you worship? Do Muslim, Hindu, and Christian Gods recognize their devotees by name?

As I said before call yourself Muhammed Iqbal and then practice Kashmir Brahmin Hinduism in Kashmir and see what happens.

I guess that means my questions blew holes in your argument.

I think you got it back to front. If you call yourself Muhammed Iqbal and then practice Kashmir Brahmin Hinduism in Kashmir then them fellows will blow holes in you.

Did you switch your complaint from being about Hindus in Guyana to Hindus somewhere else in the world? I quote you: "Secular Hindus of Guyana are people who are ashamed of being Hindus ..."

A
Prashad posted:

Those Guyanese Pandits need to get their lazy behinds together and develop a conversion process and program and start converting people before it is too late.

Hindus do not actively practice conversion like other religions. However, if anyone comes and say that their ancestors were forced to convert and they are suffocating in their faith, they will be welcomed. 

Mitwah

Hinduism in Guyana lost a huge chunk of people to Christianity. Those people are not coming back. This has not occurred in East Indian Islam in Guyana. The fault lies in the failure of Pandits to educate the people. Their job is not just to show up to do religious ceremonies and get paid. The time for Hinduism in Guyana to be like Orthodox Judaism and wait for converts to come to them is over.  The Guyanese Pandits have to get out into the public and educate the public on why and how they should become Hindus.

Prashad
Prashad posted:

Hinduism in Guyana lost a huge chunk of people to Christianity. Those people are not coming back. This has not occurred in East Indian Islam in Guyana. The fault lies in the failure of Pandits to educate the people. Their job is not just to show up to do religious ceremonies and get paid. The time for Hinduism in Guyana to be like Orthodox Judaism and wait for converts to come to them is over.  The Guyanese Pandits have to get out into the public and educate the public on why and how they should become Hindus.

Bhai Prashad then you should speak to Hub Cap Daughter, The Maha Sabha, the Pundits council of Guyana and the Swami. Hinduism is rich here in Toronto and the GTA.

Mitwah

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