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No complaint of threats …Justice Holder gives reason for leaving bench.

Attorney General, Basil Williams

March 28, 2017 Source

-writes chancellor on High Court incident

JUSTICE Franklin Holder said he left the bench last week Thursday during the Carvil Duncan trial because of an alleged statement made by Attorney General, Basil Williams, which is: “I could say what I want to say and however I want to say it, I have always been like that.”
“Immediately after hearing these words, I rose from the Bench and went into my Chambers. I did not adjourn the matter, nor did I give any instructions to the parties,” Justice Holder mentioned in a letter of complaint addressed to Chancellor of the Judiciary (ag), Yonette Cummings-Edwards, which was seen by this newspaper.
His letter made no mention of any “threat”, and although he referenced Williams’ statement about a dead magistrate, Justice Holder made no specific complaint about it nor did he describe it as a threat.

People’s Progressive Party MP, Anil Nandlall had made the allegations that Williams had threatened to kill the judge- a claim which Williams has denied. During a news conference last Friday Williams in detailing what transpired said that he was cross-examining Duncan, who is being represented by Nandlall, and the latter kept interrupting the court. Williams, SC said that when the Judge announced that he was about to adjourn the matter, he (Williams) made a request to ask a final question, which he was permitted to do. The AG said that after he had asked his final question to the confidential secretary of Duncan, since she was the one being cross-examined, he thanked her and proceeded to his seat.

Ex abundanti cautela

He then stated that: “When I was about to sit, I saw the Judge was about to leave and I said ex abundanti cautela; out of excessive caution could I enquire the answer ‘no’ was recorded. The Judge, to my surprise said, Mr. Williams you’re not in-charge of my court.” The AG related that the Judge then said that he interprets what Williams said to mean that he (the Judge) did not record a previous answer given by the witness, and that he (the Judge) takes great umbrage to that.

Justice Franklin Holder

Williams, SC said he then shared an experience which happened years ago, where a magistrate presiding over a matter he was involved in had interpreted something he said, differently. He said that since then he has been “particular” about what he says in court and “incidentally, that magistrate is dead now”.
He noted that after this, he continued his conversation with Justice Holder, after which Nandlall “jumped in as though he was under the influence of something” and the Judge left the benches. The AG said that his view is that the Judge had intended to leave but he (Williams) had detained him by asking another question. He said that no date was given by the Judge for a continuation of the hearing, as he has the option of sending notices to counsel about new dates.
Judy Stuart- Adonis, Senior Legal Advisor, who was in court during the incident, in a statement seen by this newspaper said the AG was insistent in the inconsistencies of the witness being recorded, after which he subsequently referenced a former Magistrate, who also misconstrued him and that Magistrate is now deceased, meaning he/she is no longer a sitting Magistrate. Esther Sam, Principal Legal Adviser at the AG chambers also gave a similar account.

Meanwhile, in light of the accusations against him that he threatened to kill the judge, the AG on Friday had warned that he will take legal actions against the media houses that repeated the allegations by Nandlall. “I practiced law for 33 years and no allegations have been made against me in the practice of my profession. Newspapers have come out and I shall be taking actions against those newspapers” he told reporters.
The AG said that he will be taking actions because several weeks ago he warned that it was no longer “free day” on his name, as he would not permit anyone to filch his “good name”.
“I have never done acts of corruption” AG Williams maintained.
He went on to state that the accusation by Nandlall, who is a former AG, “reeks of crass disrespect” and is an “assault on the government,” since he (Williams) is a government minister. “I gave warning. I am not going to allow people to attack me and my office. It is an assault on the government. We have to ensure people’s reputation are protected” the AG said, confirming that legal actions will also be taken against Nandlall.

 

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Freedom house is no match for the APNU/AFC Government,they don't know Politics,one running around the country like a headless chicken,another one "creating mischief" holding daily press conferences where he is lecturing 95% of the time,what use less bunch resides there.

They are the new "Indian Savior"

smh

Django
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Whattax! We now await the arrival of those PPP Nemakaraks..Filthy shit heads..Snake oil salesmen...Slopcan carriers...Tea drinkers...Soup drinkers...Dog Shytes...Belly Wuk...Stale bread...Cake shop guys..etc for their take on the matter. (Hope I left no one out)

cain
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QUOTE: 'JUSTICE Franklin Holder said he left the bench last week Thursday during the Carvil Duncan trial because of an alleged statement made by Attorney General, Basil Williams, which is: “I could say what I want to say and however I want to say it, I have always been like that.”
“Immediately after hearing these words, I rose from the Bench and went into my Chambers. I did not adjourn the matter, nor did I give any instructions to the parties,” Justice Holder mentioned in a letter of complaint addressed to Chancellor of the Judiciary (ag), Yonette Cummings-Edwards, which was seen by this newspaper.'

Threat or no threat, Basil Williams' declaration in court was out of order. It caused Judge Holder to walk out and complain to the Chancellor. Django's headline about "Mischief Maker Anil Nandlall" is uncalled for.

FM

Gill,

There is no doubt AG,Basil Williams SC "was out of order" in court,he should be penalized.

The two honorable gentlemen former AG,A.Nandalall and current AG,B.Williams are at each others throat for a while,Mr.Nanadalall heard the word "Magistrate dead"and construed it was a threat to the honorable Justice Holder.

The same day Anil posted on his face book page Williams made"death threat" to Justice Holder,some of the media picked it up and published the next day,I made a post on GNI that day,the rest is known from press conferences held by both gentleman.

Anil wants to score cheap political points in a mischievous way,

"Mischief Maker Anil Nandlall" stands.

Django
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Basil Williams is a ■ peg in a O hole. His performance as AG has been marked by one blunder after another. President Granger could do with a competent replacement for that nincompoop.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

Basil Williams is a ■ peg in a O hole. His performance as AG has been marked by one blunder after another. President Granger could do with a competent replacement for that nincompoop.

Totally agreed!

Django
Django posted:

Freedom house is no match for the APNU/AFC Government,they don't know Politics,one running around the country like a headless chicken,another one "creating mischief" holding daily press conferences where he is lecturing 95% of the time,what use less bunch resides there.

They are the new "Indian Savior"

smh

So if Basil Williams is "holier than thou" why did Justice Holder get up and walk out of the Chambers?

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:

Freedom house is no match for the APNU/AFC Government,they don't know Politics,one running around the country like a headless chicken,another one "creating mischief" holding daily press conferences where he is lecturing 95% of the time,what use less bunch resides there.

They are the new "Indian Savior"

smh

So if Basil Williams is "holier than thou" why did Justice Holder get up and walk out of the Chambers?

Read my post about Basil Williams.

Django
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:

Freedom house is no match for the APNU/AFC Government,they don't know Politics,one running around the country like a headless chicken,another one "creating mischief" holding daily press conferences where he is lecturing 95% of the time,what use less bunch resides there.

They are the new "Indian Savior"

smh

So if Basil Williams is "holier than thou" why did Justice Holder get up and walk out of the Chambers?

Read my post about Basil Williams.

I read the subject of this thread!!

Bibi Haniffa

It does look like a threat as it was unnecessary to bring up that the magistrate is now dead. Lawyers always mean to say everything they say. There is no context for bringing up that the magistrate is now dead.

FM
Django posted:

Freedom house is no match for the APNU/AFC Government,they don't know Politics,one running around the country like a headless chicken,another one "creating mischief" holding daily press conferences where he is lecturing 95% of the time,what use less bunch resides there.

They are the new "Indian Savior"

smh

Django, it is obvious that there is more to this story. Williams also lied.  In his interview, Williams did not indicate that he told the justice that he could say what he wants where he wants. He portrayed himself as the epitome of legal propriety.

I guess we, including me, have to be careful checking the authenticity of what is said in the media. This is a item from the chronicle, so I suspect that there is some spin to it also. 

Z
Django posted:

Freedom house is no match for the APNU/AFC Government,they don't know Politics,one running around the country like a headless chicken,another one "creating mischief" holding daily press conferences where he is lecturing 95% of the time,what use less bunch resides there.

They are the new "Indian Savior"

smh

Django, it is obvious that there is more to this story. Williams also lied.  In his interview, Williams did not indicate that he told the justice that he could say what he wants where he wants. He portrayed himself as the epitome of legal propriety.

I guess we, including me, have to be careful checking the authenticity of what is said in the media. This is a item from the chronicle, so I suspect that there is some spin to it also. 

Z

Look at this saga in colour, Justice Holder is a dam Blackman, after a phone call from maybe Harmon,or Granger he change his story, so the next day what do you expect him to say.Either way he was  threatened but as a PNC he had to take their side and the Attorney General is the BOSS.

K
Gilbakka posted:

QUOTE: 'JUSTICE Franklin Holder said he left the bench last week Thursday during the Carvil Duncan trial because of an alleged statement made by Attorney General, Basil Williams, which is: “I could say what I want to say and however I want to say it, I have always been like that.”
“Immediately after hearing these words, I rose from the Bench and went into my Chambers. I did not adjourn the matter, nor did I give any instructions to the parties,” Justice Holder mentioned in a letter of complaint addressed to Chancellor of the Judiciary (ag), Yonette Cummings-Edwards, which was seen by this newspaper.'

Threat or no threat, Basil Williams' declaration in court was out of order. It caused Judge Holder to walk out and complain to the Chancellor. Django's headline about "Mischief Maker Anil Nandlall" is uncalled for.

Django is out of order.

FM

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