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Originally posted by Alexander:
Jags, lets get this right. You ( as a PPP supporter) are saying that you pray that the PPP is not electable " because if they are we (PPP) are in deep shit." In other words as a PPP supporter you don't want the PPP to be re-elected. This is a classic case of the cutlass cutting on both sides.


albert many PPP supporters are like jags. They will either not vote or jump to the AFC. After 19 years its really too much what the PPP has done to poor people.
You see Caribj when people come to Guyana they drive down the roads and they see the nice big houses etc.

They do not go into a school nor do they go in the villages and see how the people are living on a daily basis.

They do not understand that the poor in Guyana does not have earning power and as a result the average worker in Guyana is living from handouts (remittances) and or they are living pay cheque to pay cheque.

Many also do not get to interact with the people to get a feel for their reading and writing skills. You would be shocked to see how many teenagers cannot read and write here.

Sex crimes against young girls in this country is a chronic problem, women and parents are selling their children. These things you rarely pickup from flying into GY and Flying back out spending 5-7 days.

When most people come they are on vacation they enjoy themselves and get out. Working and living here you see the good and the bad.

The PPP has made many improvements but when you see the amount of people dying from crime here it is brutal and heart wrenching.
Don't kid yourselves things are expensive in Guyana if you have to live and work here.
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Originally posted by Alexander:
Really? After 19 years the PPP has done nothing good for the people?


The PPP has done a lot of good, But the past 12 years we have seen a serious moving away from the principles of the party to a money grabbing machine and one where the average man in the street and the impact on him is not the center of focus.

The PPP made some strategic and tactical mistakes getting in bed with Roger Khan and it has resulted in immense fall out across the board. One has to empathize with them to some extent because the PNC was definitely involved in making that situation even more untenable but the simple minds in the PPP refused to listen to the American govt and hire private security firms to solve the problem.

Instead they jumped at the opportunity of using RK and in my mind that was the beginning of the end. After that they crossed the moral line and there was no turning back and go back and look at it since then all this corruption galore started. Buddys hotel, Fidelity polar beer scam, Lawrence Duprey / Clico / NIS scam, Skeldon.

Look it is unconscionable that in GY we still have these amounts of power problems and security and water and education issues, where is all this friggin money going? where?
Some of the good the PPP has done is pushing housing and allocating house lots. - PASS

They have improved water services it is not bullet proof but it is an improvement, could it have been better yes, with well thought out and better design and more auditing of finances to ensure people are not stealing yes. - PASS

Electricity upgrades - fail

Security - FAIL

Mining - Bauxite and gold i think they did a good job. They could have done better on bauxite by just forcing those companies to treat the employees better and pay them the severance they deserved. Bad move on their part.

Banking sector - Good job - PASS

Corruption - FAIL

GRA - was improving for a while and then it just went completely south. Waiting a day for a vehicle license is unacceptable sorry.

Waiting 6 weeks to clear a container is bullshit, this is how GRA makes money. GRA is a revenue center and if you are taking 6 weeks to clear a container there is a cost being passed onto the consumer and this is bad for business period.

Rice Sector - FAIL

Drainage and irrigation - Barely pass. Can you believe in 19 years we have not mechanized any pumps on the east coast? Can you believe in the year 2010 and 2011 we are building bloody kokers? really? when are we going to build our next cave?

Air transport sector - Barely pass OGLE airport PASS, Timehri airport building improvements and runway improvements pass.

Attracting new airlines to Guyana by even subsidizing their fuel or charging at cost - FAIL.

Roads - PASS still room for improvement.

EDUCATION - FAIL - 2006 manifesto says we are giving free exercise books where?
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Originally posted by Alexander:
Really? After 19 years the PPP has done nothing good for the people?


Some good yes as even Burnham did. The bad is worse then the good though as teh many PPP supporters, scorned in barbados and Venezuela, indicates.

As a man said if you rich Guyana is paradise, If you arent Guyana is hell. Most Guyanese arent rich.
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Originally posted by jags:
Some of the good the PPP has done is pushing housing and allocating house lots. - PASS

They have improved water services it is not bullet proof but it is an improvement, could it have been better yes, with well thought out and better design and more auditing of finances to ensure people are not stealing yes. - PASS

Electricity upgrades - fail

Security - FAIL

Mining - Bauxite and gold i think they did a good job. They could have done better on bauxite by just forcing those companies to treat the employees better and pay them the severance they deserved. Bad move on their part.

Banking sector - Good job - PASS

Corruption - FAIL

GRA - was improving for a while and then it just went completely south. Waiting a day for a vehicle license is unacceptable sorry.

Waiting 6 weeks to clear a container is bullshit, this is how GRA makes money. GRA is a revenue center and if you are taking 6 weeks to clear a container there is a cost being passed onto the consumer and this is bad for business period.

Rice Sector - FAIL

Drainage and irrigation - Barely pass. Can you believe in 19 years we have not mechanized any pumps on the east coast? Can you believe in the year 2010 and 2011 we are building bloody kokers? really? when are we going to build our next cave?

Air transport sector - Barely pass OGLE airport PASS, Timehri airport building improvements and runway improvements pass.

Attracting new airlines to Guyana by even subsidizing their fuel or charging at cost - FAIL.

Roads - PASS still room for improvement.

EDUCATION - FAIL - 2006 manifesto says we are giving free exercise books where?


bauxite/gold. FAIL. Gold does well becasue of current instability in the financial markets. The PPP did nothing, and in fact last year was considered hostile by the gold miners.

Linden is a mess. Thats all we need to say about bauxite.
Gold did well Caribj and its not entirely because of miners listen me out. The PPP facilitated a lot of duty free equipment for gold mining thus it made it easier when the drug dealers started laundering money through selling a lot of heavy equipment into GY. (smile)

Thats the truth, many drug dealing operations also moved into gold mining thus production surged. This surge was reported in the press as well. The PPP has also been able to sign some good mining deals with a few canadian companies.

I might add that they also did a great job on the CGX suriname issue by getting Sonny Ramphal involved. Otherwise they would have screwed this up also.

Linden is not as much a mess as you may think. Talk to some old time PNC folks there and you will understand, many of the folks in linden have also moved into mining. So the employment has kinda shifted away from linden into mahdia and region 8.
Alexander and a few more failures,

Freedom of the press - Fail.

Grow more Campaign - Fail

Accountability / Transparency / Good governance - FAILLLLLLLL.

Grow media and entertainment industry - FAIL why?
why are we paying for Ne-Yo and others to come to Guyana again?

Tourism - FAIL

Forestry - PASS

Fowl Farming - FAIL

Tax policy - FAIL

GMC - FAIL

GRDB - FAIL

Health - FAIL

Social Services - Pass barely

NIS - FAIL its bankrupt

NDIA - FAIL i think i already said that though

the ZOO and Parks - FAIL

Ferry / Marine safety / Water transportation - FAIL

Traffic - traffic lights awesome PASS.

Planning and policing traffic FAIL

I can go on and on and on........
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Originally posted by jags:
Gold did well Caribj and its not entirely because of miners listen me out. The PPP facilitated a lot of duty free equipment for gold mining thus it made it easier when the drug dealers started laundering money through selling a lot of heavy equipment into GY. (smile)

Thats the truth, many drug dealing operations also moved into gold mining thus production surged. This surge was reported in the press as well. The PPP has also been able to sign some good mining deals with a few canadian companies.

I might add that they also did a great job on the CGX suriname issue by getting Sonny Ramphal involved. Otherwise they would have screwed this up also.

Linden is not as much a mess as you may think. Talk to some old time PNC folks there and you will understand, many of the folks in linden have also moved into mining. So the employment has kinda shifted away from linden into mahdia and region 8.


If gold prices were low gold would not have done well. It would not ahve been lucrative for the PPP friends (ooops I meant money launderers and other criminals).

Nor would the Canadians have been interested. The PPP didnt seek them out. They sought Guyana out.

People arent stupid. If bauxite is finished folks will move on. The fact that they have doesnt change the fact that the bauxite industry is a mess.

Linden used to be a jumping place in the 1960s and 70s. It was the most "modern" city in Guyana as Lindeners had the money to spend on these services. That is how Linden was. Not now.

The PPP messed up the Suriname issue and had to rely on "PNC" diplomats to rescue them. The same people who Cheddi dumped when he came in. Yes the same Sonny Ramphal who they used to call a traitor because he didnt support the Indian party. Suriname ried to mess around with GY in teh 60s and were quickly sent packing, not to try that again until the PPP came in.
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Originally posted by Chief:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nehru:
i THOUGHT YOU WOULD KNOW. wHAT HAPPEN DEM KICK YOU OUT TO THE CURB??? yippie yippie[QUOTE]

You are confusing me with someone else.


Chief,

Nehru is not confusing you. You are/were a PNC activist and supporter, so how come you don't know what;s going on with the Palm Tree. Or did they kick you out or are you getting some business deal in Guyana and you have to change and become a soup drinker? LETS HEAR THE TRUTH. IT SHALL SET YOU FREE
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Originally posted by marlon:
quote:
Originally posted by Chief:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nehru:
i THOUGHT YOU WOULD KNOW. wHAT HAPPEN DEM KICK YOU OUT TO THE CURB??? yippie yippie[QUOTE]

You are confusing me with someone else.


Chief,

Nehru is not confusing you. You are/were a PNC activist and supporter, so how come you don't know what;s going on with the Palm Tree. Or did they kick you out or are you getting some business deal in Guyana and you have to change and become a soup drinker? LETS HEAR THE TRUTH. IT SHALL SET YOU FREE



I always say and I maintain that being in opposition to the ppp does not make that person an activist of any other party.
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Corruption - FAIL



C'mon jags, give credit where it's due, this one is debatable, I would say they passed this, corruption is working well. Dem boys got it down to an art.


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(Quote)Waiting 6 weeks to clear a container is bullshit, this is how GRA makes money. GRA is a revenue center and if you are taking 6 weeks to clear a container there is a cost being passed onto the consumer and this is bad for business period.(Quote)


Imagine the wait for 29 tonnes of stuff, hmmmm!
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Originally posted by Chief:
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Originally posted by marlon:
quote:
Originally posted by Chief:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nehru:
i THOUGHT YOU WOULD KNOW. wHAT HAPPEN DEM KICK YOU OUT TO THE CURB??? yippie yippie[QUOTE]

You are confusing me with someone else.


Chief,

Nehru is not confusing you. You are/were a PNC activist and supporter, so how come you don't know what;s going on with the Palm Tree. Or did they kick you out or are you getting some business deal in Guyana and you have to change and become a soup drinker? LETS HEAR THE TRUTH. IT SHALL SET YOU FREE



I always say and I maintain that being in opposition to the ppp does not make that person an activist of any other party.


Chief,

You were not only in opposition to the PPP, you were a PNC activist even in New York. Be a man an own up to it. Now you seem to be supporting the AFC.

Maybe you are scared that your PNC friends will isolate you? What's up tell us the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me Allah

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