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US Congressman urges key colleagues to keep Guyana from falling off democracy pathway

…says loss of democracy in Guyana could impact regional stability
…writes congressional foreign affairs committees

A United States (US) Congressman Vincente Gonzalez who heads a key committee has written to two senior colleagues who head a committee and subcommittee in the US Congress, urging them to keep Guyana on the path of democracy, even as the country meanders on several months overdue for elections.

Chairman of the Subcommittee on Western Hemisphere, Civilian Security and Trade, Albio Sires

In the letter which was seen by this publication, US Congressman Vincente Gonzalez, a representative of the 15th District of Texas, wrote to Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee Eliot Engel and Chairman of the Subcommittee on Western Hemisphere, Civilian Security and Trade, Albio Sires.
Gonzalez warned in his letter that a loss of democracy in Guyana could have disastrous effects on regional stability. He also said that as the US has worked to bring democracy around the world, Guyana should be no exception.

The Letter sent by the US Congressman

“The United States has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since 1992, after then Guyanese President Desmond Hoyte decided to reform the country’s electoral laws and held free and fair elections. Any reversal of these efforts could impact regional stability and endanger the well-being of the Guyanese people.”
“I request that the Committee continue to keep a watchful eye on Guyana moving forward. It is imperative that we continue to bring democracy (globally) and Guyana is no exception. I am available to work with you and the Committee on legislation for the betterment of the Guyanese people,” Gonzalez also wrote.
The Congressman pointed out in his letter that President David Granger lost a no-confidence vote in December 2018 and that after six months of legal challenges, the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) unanimously upheld the no-confidence vote.
He noted that even though the regional court had recognised that elections should have been held by March 21, 2019, the Guyana Elections Commission had insisted on preparing for elections in a lengthy House-to-House Registration process.

President David Granger

“The People’s Progressive Party has requested that elections be held within 90 days of the CCJ’s June 18, 2019 ruling or September 18, 2019. CCJ’s internal counsel has advised that the House-to-House Registrations would be an act of contempt against the CCJ,” Gonzalez advised Engel and Sires in his letter.
This letter will go some way in showing that while sections of society have been critical of the diplomatic community’s silence as Guyana heads down the road of constitutional violation, events are happening behind the scenes.
When questioned in July of this year after the CCJ’s rulings, Caricom Secretary General Irwin LaRocque had sought to deny reports that Caricom has not been active enough in trying to ensure Guyana remains a democratic and not authoritative State.
“There’s a process ongoing since the no-confidence vote. The process has worked so far, in the sense that the CCJ delivered a judgement and its consequential orders. And the CCJ, in my view, was very, very clear that all the actors concerned, must play their part,” LaRocque had told the media.

Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Eliot Engel

“As I understand it, there continues to be dialogue among the parties. We continue to monitor everything very closely. I have met with both the President and the Leader of the Opposition on more than one occasion. Following the ruling, I’ve met the Opposition Leader and spoken to the President. So I’m in touch, I’ll continue to be in touch.”

US Congressman Vincente Gonzalez

The Secretary General had added that the Chairman of Caricom, St Kitts and Nevis Prime Minister Dr Timothy Harris, was being briefed regularly on the situation and had reached out to leaders in Guyana. But LaRocque stayed on the side of caution as it relates to taking a more proactive role.
“We’ll continue monitoring this. We remain available to assist if we’re asked to assist. But Caricom does not interfere unless the democratic and judicial process breaks down. It doesn’t mean we don’t care. It doesn’t mean we’re not engaged. We are fully engaged,” he had stressed.
So far, the diplomatic community has not publicly renewed its position on respecting the Constitution and the CCJ’s ruling. Representatives of the United States, United Kingdom, and the European Union observed the July 12 pronouncements and later acknowledged that this adherence must be done expeditiously.

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In fact, the petition I signed about a month ago addressing this issue and was sent to Eliot Engel and Vincente Gonzalez. 

It had a top page as this with an addendum highlighting historical context. 

Baseman
Baseman posted:

In fact, the petition I signed about a month ago addressing this issue and was sent to Eliot Engel and Vincente Gonzalez. 

It had a top page as this with an addendum highlighting historical context. 

The petition can't be read , it's blurred, GUYANATIMES need a good scanner.

Django
Django posted:
Baseman posted:

In fact, the petition I signed about a month ago addressing this issue and was sent to Eliot Engel and Vincente Gonzalez. 

It had a top page as this with an addendum highlighting historical context. 

The petition can't be read , it's blurred, GUYANATIMES need a good scanner.

That was done on purpose so people won’t see that Baseman put CPA next to his name when he signed the letter to Eliot Engel.  

Bibi Haniffa
Django posted:
Baseman posted:

In fact, the petition I signed about a month ago addressing this issue and was sent to Eliot Engel and Vincente Gonzalez. 

It had a top page as this with an addendum highlighting historical context. 

The petition can't be read , it's blurred, GUYANATIMES need a good scanner.

I am sure Base should have a copy of the petition he signed, let’s see your quality nah base.  

FM
Django posted:
Baseman posted:

In fact, the petition I signed about a month ago addressing this issue and was sent to Eliot Engel and Vincente Gonzalez. 

It had a top page as this with an addendum highlighting historical context. 

The petition can't be read , it's blurred, GUYANATIMES need a good scanner.

That was not our letter.  He wrote his own. 

A few of us might be traveling or maybe just one member!

Baseman
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Dave posted:
Django posted:
Baseman posted:

In fact, the petition I signed about a month ago addressing this issue and was sent to Eliot Engel and Vincente Gonzalez. 

It had a top page as this with an addendum highlighting historical context. 

The petition can't be read , it's blurred, GUYANATIMES need a good scanner.

I am sure Base should have a copy of the petition he signed, let’s see your quality nah base.  

It’s on my home computer.  Will check

Baseman

It is about time someone put fire on these fvckers asses. By now one would think the PNC would have relented to civilization and do the right thing. Instead they continue to choose the uncivilized path.

FM

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic. Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

FM
ksazma posted:

It is about time someone put fire on these fvckers asses. By now one would think the PNC would have relented to civilization and do the right thing. Instead they continue to choose the uncivilized path.

Bhai, Gadahas can never be civilized!!!

Nehru
ksazma posted:

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic. Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

Is Ayuh coolies cause datt!!

Baseman
Dave posted:

Django that’s the best I can do,, I screenshot it. 

Thanks, i was able to read.

Nothing much to cheer about.  Elections are in GECOM hands, in Guyana situation there should be fair play , due to election results are close.

Django

Uncle Sam is watching the PNC tricks, they already have 1000 soldiers based in Guyana ready for regime change. So Granger can go and stay in Cuba, no need to come back, wah America no good for treatment,

K
Baseman posted:
ksazma posted:

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic. Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

Is Ayuh coolies cause datt!!

Is a Neemakaram Crabdag Parasite who was willing to sell his most prized possession for wealth and POWA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nehru
ksazma posted:

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic.

Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

Where in the letter states that ?

Django
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Django that’s the best I can do,, I screenshot it. 

Thanks, i was able to read.

Nothing much to cheer about.  Elections are in GECOM hands, in Guyana situation there should be fair play , due to election results are close.

The cheering will come when the PPP wins if Ayuh don’t rigggg!!

Then you will be crying like Hilarious on Nov 6 2016!

Baseman
kp posted:

Uncle Sam is watching the PNC tricks, they already have 1000 soldiers based in Guyana ready for regime change. So Granger can go and stay in Cuba, no need to come back, wah America no good for treatment,

Nothing wrong to keep hopes high !!!

Django
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic.

Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

Where in the letter states that ?

He implies it!

Baseman
Django posted:
kp posted:

Uncle Sam is watching the PNC tricks, they already have 1000 soldiers based in Guyana ready for regime change. So Granger can go and stay in Cuba, no need to come back, wah America no good for treatment,

Nothing wrong to keep hopes high !!!

I must say, as a ONE man band, you making nuff noise.

K
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Django that’s the best I can do,, I screenshot it. 

Thanks, i was able to read.

Nothing much to cheer about.  Elections are in GECOM hands, in Guyana situation there should be fair play , due to election results are close.

The cheering will come when the PPP wins  Ayuh don’t rigggg!!

Then you will be crying like Hilarious on Nov 6 2016!

Good for the PPP , the USA will support Irfaan Ali and the Puppeteer.

I mentioned many times there is no need for the "coalition of parties"  to rig elections to win.

Django
kp posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:

Uncle Sam is watching the PNC tricks, they already have 1000 soldiers based in Guyana ready for regime change. So Granger can go and stay in Cuba, no need to come back, wah America no good for treatment,

Nothing wrong to keep hopes high !!!

I must say, as a ONE man band, you making nuff noise.

I meant to ask, what happened to Ronan?  He was a good poster!

Baseman
kp posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:

Uncle Sam is watching the PNC tricks, they already have 1000 soldiers based in Guyana ready for regime change. So Granger can go and stay in Cuba, no need to come back, wah America no good for treatment,

Nothing wrong to keep hopes high !!!

I must say, as a ONE man band, you making nuff noise.

Banna i man can battle any storm.

Django
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic.

Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

Where in the letter states that ?

He implies it!

No where in the statement implied such.

Django
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Django posted:
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic.

Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

Where in the letter states that ?

He implies it!

No where in the statement implied such.

Read it again!

Baseman
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic.

Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

Where in the letter states that ?

He implies it!

No where in the statement implied such.

Read it again!

Don't be jokey banna, read again.

Gonzalez letter

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Django posted:
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic.

Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

Where in the letter states that ?

He implies it!

No where in the statement implied such.

Read it again!

Don't be jokey banna, read again.

 

Gonzalez letter

Django are you sure you’re reading the correct letter. 

 

FM
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Gonzalez letterBaseman posted:
Django posted:
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic.

Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

Where in the letter states that ?

He implies it!

No where in the statement implied such.

Read it again!

Don't be jokey banna, read again.

 

Gonzalez letter

Django are you sure you’re reading the correct letter. 

 

So DJ  in all due respect, you don’t quite understand Kaz reference to the Congress man words eh . 

FM
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Django posted:
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic.

Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

Where in the letter states that ?

He implies it!

No where in the statement implied such.

Read it again!

Don't be jokey banna, read again.

 

Gonzalez letter

Django are you sure you’re reading the correct letter.

Of course , i am reading the correct letter .

Regarding the last paragraph, friendly relationship  between the US and Guyana was long before "since " 1992 , Mr. V.Gonzalez should be aware of that. I am tempted to respond to him and forward a copy to my Congressman.

Django

The Congressional Representative had no other purpose to pen his petition other than to point out his concerns for the behavior of the Coalition since the NCV. It is called deduction.

FM
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic.

Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

Where in the letter states that ?

He implies it!

No where in the statement implied such.

Read it again!

Don't be jokey banna, read again.

 

Gonzalez letter

Django are you sure you’re reading the correct letter.

Of course , i am reading the correct letter .

Regarding the last paragraph, friendly relationship  between the US and Guyana was long before "since " 1992 , Mr. V.Gonzalez should be aware of that. I am tempted to respond to him and forward a copy to my Congressman.

No. He was referring to a “democratic” Guyana 

Baseman
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
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Django posted:
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic.

Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

Where in the letter states that ?

He implies it!

No where in the statement implied such.

Read it again!

Don't be jokey banna, read again.

 

Gonzalez letter

Django are you sure you’re reading the correct letter.

Of course , i am reading the correct letter .

Regarding the last paragraph, friendly relationship  between the US and Guyana was long before "since " 1992 , Mr. V.Gonzalez should be aware of that. I am tempted to respond to him and forward a copy to my Congressman.

No. He was referring to a “democratic” Guyana 

Exactly. 

FM
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
 

 

Gonzalez letter

Django are you sure you’re reading the correct letter.

Of course , i am reading the correct letter .

Regarding the last paragraph, friendly relationship  between the US and Guyana was long before "since " 1992 , Mr. V.Gonzalez should be aware of that. I am tempted to respond to him and forward a copy to my Congressman.

No. He was referring to a “democratic” Guyana 

Any way the USA knows about Guyana, from since desh janam .

Prior to 1992 , there was no "Period of Democracy" ?

Django
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ksazma posted:

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic.

Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

Where in the letter states that ?

He implies it!

No where in the statement implied such.

Read it again!

Don't be jokey banna, read again.

 

Gonzalez letter

Django are you sure you’re reading the correct letter.

Of course , i am reading the correct letter .

Regarding the last paragraph, friendly relationship  between the US and Guyana was long before "since " 1992 , Mr. V.Gonzalez should be aware of that. I am tempted to respond to him and forward a copy to my Congressman.

You should.

What do you hope to achieve or convince him about, that from 1992 to 2015 Guyana did not enjoy democracy. Tell us Django 

What we saw in the last three years is blatant disregard for the constitution and disrespect for the courts. A repeat of Burnhamism .

If PPP was in Government, and did exactly as the Coalition, would you be happy. I don’t think so, you may already dispatch letters to congress or even Trump. 

FM
Django posted:
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
 

 

Gonzalez letter

Django are you sure you’re reading the correct letter.

Of course , i am reading the correct letter .

Regarding the last paragraph, friendly relationship  between the US and Guyana was long before "since " 1992 , Mr. V.Gonzalez should be aware of that. I am tempted to respond to him and forward a copy to my Congressman.

No. He was referring to a “democratic” Guyana 

 

Prior to 1992 , there was no "Period of Democracy" ?

So what is it you didn’t undastand what the Congress man write. 

FM
Django posted:
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
 

 

Gonzalez letter

Django are you sure you’re reading the correct letter.

Of course , i am reading the correct letter .

Regarding the last paragraph, friendly relationship  between the US and Guyana was long before "since " 1992 , Mr. V.Gonzalez should be aware of that. I am tempted to respond to him and forward a copy to my Congressman.

No. He was referring to a “democratic” Guyana 

Any way the USA knows about Guyana, from since desh janam .

Prior to 1992 , there was no "Period of Democracy" ?

Yes, up to 1964!

Then 1964 - 1992 we entered into the Valley of the Shadow or Death!!

Then in 1992 the White angel from the US appeared and lifted the curtain and the light began to shine through. 

And all cane cutters, coolies, Indians, decent Blacks, Putagees, Buckman, Chinaman, etc sang and danced for 23 years!

But coolies and cane cutters forgot their manners and so now we all eating mud pies again and hope the Whiteman come and save us again!

Baseman
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Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Take note that the US has maintained a friendly relationship with Guyana since it became democratic.

Gonzalez pointing that out is important as he seems to think the mostly PNC Coalition is moving towards an undemocratic goal.

Where in the letter states that ?

He implies it!

No where in the statement implied such.

Read it again!

Don't be jokey banna, read again.

 

Gonzalez letter

Django are you sure you’re reading the correct letter.

Of course , i am reading the correct letter .

Regarding the last paragraph, friendly relationship  between the US and Guyana was long before "since " 1992 , Mr. V.Gonzalez should be aware of that. I am tempted to respond to him and forward a copy to my Congressman.

You should.

What do you hope to achieve or convince him about, that from 1992 to 2015 Guyana did not enjoy democracy. Tell us Django 

What we saw in the last three years is blatant disregard for the constitution and disrespect for the courts. A repeat of Burnhamism .

If PPP was in Government, and did exactly as the Coalition, would you be happy. I don’t think so, you may already dispatch letters to congress or even Trump. 

Ayuh leave Django alone, he is me jine family!

Baseman
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So DJ  in all due respect, you don’t quite understand Kaz reference to the Congress man words eh . 

Banna, i understand any writings .

Naaaaaaaah.  Don’t geeeee meee duh!

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
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So DJ  in all due respect, you don’t quite understand Kaz reference to the Congress man words eh . 

Banna, i understand any writings .

Naaaaaaaah.  Don’t geeeee meee duh!

Show abhee some of your skills nuh , we doan see nothing from you , except bad mouthing. From day one on your arrival on GNI , Django is your target , with all the Ivy league heducation plus them dunce that backs you,  still can't match him.

Django
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Baseman posted:
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In fact, the petition I signed about a month ago addressing this issue and was sent to Eliot Engel and Vincente Gonzalez. 

It had a top page as this with an addendum highlighting historical context. 

The petition can't be read , it's blurred, GUYANATIMES need a good scanner.

I am sure Base should have a copy of the petition he signed, let’s see your quality nah base.  

It’s on my home computer.  Will check

Did you find the home computaaaa???!!!

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Baseman posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Baseman posted:

In fact, the petition I signed about a month ago addressing this issue and was sent to Eliot Engel and Vincente Gonzalez. 

It had a top page as this with an addendum highlighting historical context. 

The petition can't be read , it's blurred, GUYANATIMES need a good scanner.

I am sure Base should have a copy of the petition he signed, let’s see your quality nah base.  

It’s on my home computer.  Will check

Did you find the home computaaaa???!!!

Nah!  Come help me find am!!

Baseman
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

So DJ  in all due respect, you don’t quite understand Kaz reference to the Congress man words eh . 

Banna, i understand any writings .

Naaaaaaaah.  Don’t geeeee meee duh!

Show abhee some of your skills nuh , we doan see nothing from you , except bad mouthing. From day one on your arrival on GNI , Django is your target , with all the Ivy league heducation plus them dunce that backs you,  still can't match him.

Hey hey!!  Is abiee.  You is Coolie.  

Baseman
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Granger looks like the devil incarnate.

He is living on overtime, cancer spared him but he intend to screw Guyana.

Strike one to cancer. Cancer should only spare good decent people. Granger is Lucifer.

FM
ksazma posted:
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Granger looks like the devil incarnate.

He is living on overtime, cancer spared him but he intend to screw Guyana.

Strike one to cancer. Cancer should only spare good decent people. Granger is Lucifer.

The devil is making Guyana  hell.

K

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