Trump dominates GOP field heading into 2016

Kari posted:
Cobra posted:

Trump republican contenders and the media are attacking him to get out of the race because of his hard-line stance, but Americans are fed up with what Obama creates on America, and need a man like Trump to cross traditional lines and care for Americans first; They are worried shit how to catch up with Trump in the poll. The next republican debate will shrink down to five candidates with Trump leading. The eliminators have a lot of catching up to do. 

fed up with what Obama creates on America

So tell us Cobra, just exactly what did Obama create fro America?

More health care coverage? Saving the auto industry? Stabilizing the banking system and employment? Keeping Americans out of harm's way i unnecessary military adventures and letting others grow up and defend their own territories? Greater equality for the sexes (maternity leave, etc.) and human rights for the LGBT community?

 

What exactly did Obama create for Americans?

You can try, it's a losers brew.  ACA brought enormous hardship where many lost coverage just to see their healthcare costs went from 10% to 30% of disposable income.  Obama has done nothing for the middle class but put a gun to their heads and force them into further depression.  Obama's greatest beneficiaries are the ghetto class!  Now, as a leftist Jaganite, I understand your support for these type of Governance!!  All this and still he got "Black Lives Matter".  This is not even mentioning his foreign policy fiasco!!

Apart from that, he is a success!

baseman posted:
 

You can try, it's a losers brew.  ACA brought enormous hardship where many lost coverage just to see their healthcare costs went from 10% to 30% of disposable income.  Obama has done nothing for the middle class but put a gun to their heads and force them into further depression.  Obama's greatest beneficiaries are the ghetto class!  Now, as a leftist Jaganite, I understand your support for these type of Governance!!  All this and still he got "Black Lives Matter".  This is not even mentioning his foreign policy fiasco!!

Apart from that, he is a success!

How did ACA bring hardships.  Many kids, who weren't covered, now have coverage under their parent's plans, and at no extra cost. Many who were excluded because they were uninsurable now can buy insurance.  Individual health insurance is now way cheaper than it once was.  Insurance companies cannot unilaterally increase premiums as they once did. In fact premiums went DOWN for some people.  Even for those who saw increases got more in the range of 10%, and NOT the 20% increases that we frequently saw before ACA.

I am not saying that ACA solves all the problems of health care delivery in the USA.  But it is BETTER than what existed before, and its BETTER than the crap which the GOP propose.

So let me let the cat out of the bag.  The GOP went to prevent companies from deducting the premiums which they pay on behalf of their employees.  By doing this the force companies to DROP offering health insurance as a benefit.

Baseman, please tell me how many middle class Americans can afford a sudden additional bill of over $1,800/month that they would have to pay to cover their families?

All you can do is repeat the bilge which FOXTV babbles without understanding a thing that you whine about.

I will NOT even go into the millions of jobs created since 2009, or the fact that in the last days of Bush, 700,000, YES 700,000 people were losing their jobs each MONTH! Or that the USA has the most SUCCESSFUL economy in the developed world!

Kari posted:

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caribny screams as usual about turnout and I think Trump will galvanize a lot of people- to vote AGAINST him. He kork duck and the GOP cyant sniff more than 45% of the General Election voters. So leave Trump alone to enjoy his 15 minutes of Apprentice fame. We'll get serious come the summer of 2016 at Convention time.

Trump, as he currently is, will galvanize a turn out against him.  But you forgot something. The media behave like a bunch of crack heads, when they try to get ad $$$.  They want ratings. Trump brings ratings.

So if Trump wins, and then reveals that he isn't quite the bigot that he is pretending to be, and folks like you take the Democratic base for granted, this might well be a closer election than you think.

Unlike you I have little faith in US voters who are easily manipulated.  So the media might be used by Trump to peddle a kinder gentler man, and they aren't going t refresh the public about the bigotry which he now spews because they want the ratings which he brings.

Hillary has to win on HER terms.  Not by arrogantly assuming that she will be crowned Queen!

Bibi Haniffa posted:
Stormborn posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Trump will ensure that the benefits of America goes to people who live legally in America.  Illegals are one of the reasons healthcare is so expensive.  They can show up in any hospital and get good care with the taxpayers end up footing the bill.  Same for other services.  I could never figure out how these people get food stamps and eat better than the middle class who work to buy their food.  The system is broken.  Trump will fix it.

THat illegals burden the healthcare system is bunk. I do not know how an illegal person burden the welfare system. Most of the people on welfare are from southern states who are mainly GOP supporters. These are the ones conned to voting against their interest by panderers to their latent ethnic fears. It is statistically impossible for trump to become the President.

When last you went to Jamaica Hospital?  Ask about the billing and you will see who is paying for all those illegal people showing up there.  Statistically Trump is leading the polls.  

Undocumented people go to ER when they are involved in an accident, or are very sick.  They don't account for the bulk of the costs borne by the healthcare system.  Try those guys who get FIVE opinions from FIVE different doctors. Or others who get unnecessary surgeries.  THAT is where the waste is.

How is Trump leading in the polls. Only GOP supporters have been polled.  NOT Democrats or independence.

I do recall last time Giuliani was ahead in the polls, and a sure fire win.  He stank and dropped out when ACTUAL votes were cast.

The Obama administration's ideas of affordable healthcare was well intended, but, in reality, it seems to have brought more financial hardship to too many citizens. Prior to ACA, it was fairly easy for unisured no/low-income New York State residents to get Medicaid-sponsored coverage. Agents were soliciting people at street corners or even went to their homes to sign them up. Insurance companies would encourage members to seek routine and preventive care. The re-certification/renewal process was also easy. In addition to insurance coverage, insureds could have also become eligible for free mobile phone and service and other benefits for the poor. Come ACA, these insured poor had to reapply for coverage which many of them did not understand. Calling the customer service centers or reps was a headache. Many of them lost their coverage.

Those who have purchased their plans from the Market Exchange are paying an average of $300-$400 a month. But they have high co-pays (as much as $75 per visit), huge deductibles and co-insurance. The network provider list often does not include the best doctors. In some cases, the insurance pays out nothing at all. Because of high out-of-pocket expenses, some people defer seeking medical attention.

On the other hand, doctors and facilities are receiving much lower fees for their services. With patients being responsibile for larger out-of-pocket expenses, many of them just cannot or are not paying their co-share. Besides, doctors have been forced to purchase expensive Electronic Health (Medical) Record systems to comply with new CMS regulations. This has called for increase in staff to efficiently complete the required tasks. Worst of all, the insurance companies have arbitrarily inflicted severe cuts on fees. Imagine Medicare (old people insurance) used to be one of the lowest payors up to 4 years ago, now it's the payor of survival for many doctors. Providers are seeing a pittance for surgeries from insurers. When patients learn about the associated high out-of-pocket expenses, again some choose to postpone needed operations and diagnostic tests. Bottom line, a lot of doctors are struggling to maintain their practices.

Retirees are also blaming the ACA for a lot of hardships. They complain of having to pay larger out-of-pocket expenses on their medi-gap, prescription or Medicare Advantage coverage. They also complain of cuts in their home-aid benefits.

Insurance companies are not happy too. Just last month, one of the country's largest health co-ops, Health Republic, joined the list of bankrupt companies. The giant United Healthcare has claimed losses in operating the programme and may soon get out. Insurance companies complain that premiums do not compensate for the risks incurred.

While there is need for access to healthcare by every American, the current structure of the ACA or Obamacare is putting a lot of strain on more people than envisaged. There is need for restructuring it or reverting New York's programme to what it was.  

The current strain on Obamacare is a result of the amendments that the Republicans pushed through in order to try to weaken the intention. The people are now suffering from the effects of those Republican interference, but are blaming Obama for it.

two thirds of the registrants were forced onto Obamacare because the plans were cancelled under the new law and they were left without coverage.  Most of these persons saw a tripling of costs plus higher deductibles.  Most have family incomes of 60k or more so no subsidies and this added enormous financial burden.  The greatest benefactors are Obama's welfare recipient class who have nothing, work under the table and live off the state.  The average hardworking man working in a small business or running a small business bears the brunt.

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump fired back at Hillary Clinton on Tuesday, saying she might have gotten the idea he was in an ISIS recruiting video because her husband reportedly appears in one.

"It is ironic. I didn't know about that. That's probably where she came up with the idea of videos, you know she knew her husband was on it and I think Obama is also," Trump said Tuesday on Fox News' "Fox and Friends" when asked about Bill Clinton's alleged appearance in a video.

The conservative website RedState linked to what it said is an ISIS recruiting video that uses Bill Clinton, President Barack Obama and other prominent leaders, including Sen. John McCain. But Trump is not in that video.

There is no evidence that Trump appears in any of the terror group's recruiting videos, according to CNN's Reality Check Team.

Trump asked Clinton Monday to apologize for her comment during the Democratic debate on Saturday night, but she her campaign refused, saying, "Hell no." Trump repeated his demand for an apology on Tuesday, but added that he doubted one would be forthcoming from Clinton.

caribny does not understand the power of the Black Caucus in Congress and their steadfast support for the Clinton campaign. When it comes to the general elections Democrats usually close ranks. The one variable is the enthusiasm of the base. The last two cycles had a Black nominee and this time around it will be the first woman nominee. That alone buys about half of the complacent voters. The other half will be energized by the Republican nominee who promises to roll back all of Obama's work - not gonna happen.

 

caribny's prognosis sounds like the optimism Rev had for the PPP's chances in the last elections, though in reverse pessimism for the Democrats' chances.

Donovan X. Ramsey - the guy in the NY Times article quoted by caribny has never been kind to Obama, even accusing him of always chiding Blacks and not standing up for them. He's clearly in a tiny minority of Blacks that include caribny, who is a pathological hater of Obama. If memory serves, Obama was not going to ein the 2008 elections either according to caribny (shades of Rev)

Kari posted:

Donovan X. Ramsey - the guy in the NY Times article quoted by caribny has never been kind to Obama, even accusing him of always chiding Blacks and not standing up for them. He's clearly in a tiny minority of Blacks that include caribny, who is a pathological hater of Obama. If memory serves, Obama was not going to ein the 2008 elections either according to caribny (shades of Rev)

Kari

Like you tek you eyes and pass my buddy Rev.

Rev is not here to defend himself and I consider that to be a cheap shot.

Kari posted:

caribny does not understand the power of the Black Caucus in Congress.

Yes, what power does the CBC have.  In 2008 50% of blacks owned homes. Now just over 40% do.

So what did the CBC do about this?  Most of those clowns are useless, a disgrace and no one bothers with them.  Ask how many blacks know who their congressman is, or whether they care about him or her.  Note how poorly the Democrats do in the mid terms (2010 and 2014) and that should tell you that no one gives a damn about those idiots.

Kari posted:

. If memory serves, Obama was not going to ein the 2008 elections either according to caribny (shades of Rev)

Your memory is so flawed as caribny gave money to Obama $$$ on so many occasions in 2008 that the last check was sent back with a letter of thanks, as they had more money than they needed.

Caribny supported Obama in late 2007 when most of you all still supported Hillary.  caribny wrote 2 checks in 2007, totaling $1,000 when virtually every single member of the CBC was screaming that Obama was a foreigner, and less "black" than Bill Clinton.

Fact remains is Obama is coming to the end of his presidency and blacks are WORSE off.  Kari furnish data on the condition of blacks to tell me otherwise!  You cannot!

I do not give a damn whether whites are better off under Obama!

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