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Washington (CNN)Donald Trump seems set to end 2015 as the dominant force in the race for next year's Republican nomination for president, with Texas Sen. Ted Cruz now a clear -- yet distant -- second after a strong debate performance, a new CNN/ORC poll released on Wednesday has found.

Trump tops the field with 39%, according to the poll of Republican and Republican-leaning registered voters. That's more than double the share backing Cruz, who, at 18%, has inched up 2 points since the last CNN/ORC poll, which was taken in late November.

Trump has been a constant atop the polls since his ascent to the lead in July, and this new poll marks the first time Cruz stands significantly apart from the other candidates vying for the nomination. Behind those two, Ben Carson and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio have each slipped a few points and now stand tied at 10%.

Is this the luck of a lousy cat or Trump speaks what Americans like to hear?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/23/...-orc-poll/index.html

 

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OK so some one other than me thinks that Trump was sent by Bill Clinton to destroy the GOP.

No way that a man like this will be president. The USA loves to pretend that it is post racial and that every one has equal access to opportunity, and need only work hard to succeed.  Open bigotry like this opens up a nightmare that most Americans would rather pretend doesn't exist.

FM
caribny posted:

OK so some one other than me thinks that Trump was sent by Bill Clinton to destroy the GOP.

No way that a man like this will be president. The USA loves to pretend that it is post racial and that every one has equal access to opportunity, and need only work hard to succeed.  Open bigotry like this opens up a nightmare that most Americans would rather pretend doesn't exist.

Why is he racist?  He is on record disagreeing with that judge making a comment about Blacks going to Ivy League.  The fact that he is anti-illegal immigration and the fact that he if [rightfully] suspect of Muslims does not make him racist.

Many Blacks suffer due to illegal immigration.  I have a couple of Afro Guyanese friends who have lil auto repair, lawn-care and handyman businesses.  They do good work but always get undercut by people using cheap illegal Mex and other immigrant.  I asked them about the politics and they think controlling illegals will afford them a better living.  I'm sure this could be multiplied 10's of thousands of times all over the US.  Diamond and Silk sees this!

FM
baseman posted:
caribny posted:

OK so some one other than me thinks that Trump was sent by Bill Clinton to destroy the GOP.

No way that a man like this will be president. The USA loves to pretend that it is post racial and that every one has equal access to opportunity, and need only work hard to succeed.  Open bigotry like this opens up a nightmare that most Americans would rather pretend doesn't exist.

Why is he racist?  He is on record disagreeing with that judge making a comment about Blacks going to Ivy League.  The fact that he is anti-illegal immigration and the fact that he if [rightfully] suspect of Muslims does not make him racist.

Many Blacks suffer due to illegal immigration.  I have a couple of Afro Guyanese friends who have lil auto repair, lawn-care and handyman businesses.  They do good work but always get undercut by people using cheap illegal Mex and other immigrant.  I asked them about the politics and they think controlling illegals will afford them a better living.  I'm sure this could be multiplied 10's of thousands of times all over the US.  Diamond and Silk sees this!

Why you does waste time with that Racist Dog??????

Nehru

I think Trump will do good for America, over all. And for all races in the country. 

The Republicans are more for an organization with friends. Caring very little for Americans. Trumps have decimated their rhetoric. They are exposed.

Now, he is after the Clintons. This family has nothing to offer Americans. For them it is Camelot. All fake. Trumps' recent outburst on Hilary, is also to decimate her campaign.

However, the time has come for Trump to change strategy and show the serious and mature side of him. I look forward to his calm and collective speeches to come. He has given America his passion, atleast White Americans.

 

 

 

 

S
baseman posted:
caribny posted:

OK so some one other than me thinks that Trump was sent by Bill Clinton to destroy the GOP.

No way that a man like this will be president. The USA loves to pretend that it is post racial and that every one has equal access to opportunity, and need only work hard to succeed.  Open bigotry like this opens up a nightmare that most Americans would rather pretend doesn't exist.

Why is he racist?  He is on record disagreeing with that judge making a comment about Blacks going to Ivy League.  The fact that he is anti-illegal immigration and the fact that he if [rightfully] suspect of Muslims does not make him racist.

Many Blacks suffer due to illegal immigration.  I have a couple of Afro Guyanese friends who have lil auto repair, lawn-care and handyman businesses.  They do good work but always get undercut by people using cheap illegal Mex and other immigrant.  I asked them about the politics and they think controlling illegals will afford them a better living.  I'm sure this could be multiplied 10's of thousands of times all over the US.  Diamond and Silk sees this!

Trump said Mexicans.  He further stated that they are rapists and criminals when statistics show that undocumented immigrants from Mexico are LESS likely to engage in criminal behavior than are native born Americans.  THIS is what marks him as a racist.

Then he screamed that blacks who are advocating for fair treatment by the criminal justice system should go back to Africa, even though 75% of American blacks descend from people who were brought hear BEFORE the USA declared its independence. Why do these people NOT have the right to advocate for fair treatment by the police and the courts?

 

Do you know that there is net migration BACK to Mexico? Illegal immigration from Mexico ceased to be a problem since 2008.

So why his screams about illegal migration when that is NOT the biggest problem faced by the white working class.  And why doesn't he address the REAL problem.  Employers who hire people who they shouldn't hire. Will Trump advocate heavy sanctions for companies which do this.

I am still awaiting evidence from you that Trump has loads of blacks in senior management in his corporation.  The proof is in the pudding.  If he doesn't then clearly he doesn't think that blacks are capable.

Trump  is catering to the racial paranoia of a declining segment of the white population.  Rather than looking at the REAL PROBLEMS that these people face, he fools them to pandering to their innate bigotry. 

Poor whites were sold a bill of trash by rich whites.  They were told that being white is a precious asset, and that poor whites should support the actions of rich whites, even when these actions were AGAINST the interests of poor whites. Poor whites then scapegoat blacks, immigrants, and now more recently Muslims, for their problems. 

Trump panders to this, and is now rewarded with support from white supremacists. When these hooligans have attacked blacks, or people who they perceive to be Hispanic or Muslim has he condemned this?  Not loudly enough.

FM

Trump will ensure that the benefits of America goes to people who live legally in America.  Illegals are one of the reasons healthcare is so expensive.  They can show up in any hospital and get good care with the taxpayers end up footing the bill.  Same for other services.  I could never figure out how these people get food stamps and eat better than the middle class who work to buy their food.  The system is broken.  Trump will fix it.

Bibi Haniffa

How can you defend illegals? They came here illigally. They commit crimes such as murder, identity theft, robbery, hit and run. If we were to commit a robbery or identity theft, we would be thrown in jail. Any murder or serious crimes, we would be stripped of our citizenship and deported.
The illegals knew they were breaking the rules when they got here and there is a chance they would be deported. What gives them special rights? Would Guyana or Trinidad tolerate this nonsense?

FM
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Bibi Haniffa posted:

Trump will ensure that the benefits of America goes to people who live legally in America.  Illegals are one of the reasons healthcare is so expensive.  They can show up in any hospital and get good care with the taxpayers end up footing the bill.  Same for other services.  I could never figure out how these people get food stamps and eat better than the middle class who work to buy their food.  The system is broken.  Trump will fix it.

THat illegals burden the healthcare system is bunk. I do not know how an illegal person burden the welfare system. Most of the people on welfare are from southern states who are mainly GOP supporters. These are the ones conned to voting against their interest by panderers to their latent ethnic fears. It is statistically impossible for trump to become the President.

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Trump will ensure that the benefits of America goes to people who live legally in America.  Illegals are one of the reasons healthcare is so expensive.  They can show up in any hospital and get good care with the taxpayers end up footing the bill.  Same for other services.  I could never figure out how these people get food stamps and eat better than the middle class who work to buy their food.  The system is broken.  Trump will fix it.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Trump will ensure that the benefits of America goes to people who live legally in America.  Illegals are one of the reasons healthcare is so expensive.  They can show up in any hospital and get good care with the taxpayers end up footing the bill.  Same for other services.  I could never figure out how these people get food stamps and eat better than the middle class who work to buy their food.  The system is broken.  Trump will fix it.

Bill Clinton use to make welfare into work fair. Obama welfare is eat and live free off the government and don't worry about work. 

 

FM

It is 11 months away from the Presidential elections in the US.

 

The numbers are what they are:

  • Trump polls 40% among Republican Primary voters. 
  • Republican voters make up about 40% of the total voting population.
  • Trump's 40% of a general population of 40% = 16%.
  • The Democrats are about 40% of the general election votes and so Independents are the remaining 20%.
  • Give Trump half that and so he adds 20% to 16% and you get 36% of the general election votes.
  • You ask what happens to the non-Trump Republican voters - that's 34%. If Trump gets them all then he adds that to this 36% and he gets 70% of the votes in the general elections.

 

Trump gets as much as only about 30% of Independents, because a lot of them are Hispanics and women. Trump does not get all the non-trump Republicans. The Democrats over the last 2 election cycles have gotten more than the 40-40-20 split. The Independents have shrunk as the electorate gets more polarized.

 

caribny screams as usual about turnout and I think Trump will galvanize a lot of people- to vote AGAINST him. He kork duck and the GOP cyant sniff more than 45% of the General Election voters. So leave Trump alone to enjoy his 15 minutes of Apprentice fame. We'll get serious come the summer of 2016 at Convention time.

Kari
Stormborn posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Trump will ensure that the benefits of America goes to people who live legally in America.  Illegals are one of the reasons healthcare is so expensive.  They can show up in any hospital and get good care with the taxpayers end up footing the bill.  Same for other services.  I could never figure out how these people get food stamps and eat better than the middle class who work to buy their food.  The system is broken.  Trump will fix it.

THat illegals burden the healthcare system is bunk. I do not know how an illegal person burden the welfare system. Most of the people on welfare are from southern states who are mainly GOP supporters. These are the ones conned to voting against their interest by panderers to their latent ethnic fears. It is statistically impossible for trump to become the President.

When last you went to Jamaica Hospital?  Ask about the billing and you will see who is paying for all those illegal people showing up there.  Statistically Trump is leading the polls.  

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Stormborn posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Trump will ensure that the benefits of America goes to people who live legally in America.  Illegals are one of the reasons healthcare is so expensive.  They can show up in any hospital and get good care with the taxpayers end up footing the bill.  Same for other services.  I could never figure out how these people get food stamps and eat better than the middle class who work to buy their food.  The system is broken.  Trump will fix it.

THat illegals burden the healthcare system is bunk. I do not know how an illegal person burden the welfare system. Most of the people on welfare are from southern states who are mainly GOP supporters. These are the ones conned to voting against their interest by panderers to their latent ethnic fears. It is statistically impossible for trump to become the President.

When last you went to Jamaica Hospital?  Ask about the billing and you will see who is paying for all those illegal people showing up there.  Statistically Trump is leading the polls.  

That's true. I know it all too well.

FM
Cobra posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Stormborn posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Trump will ensure that the benefits of America goes to people who live legally in America.  Illegals are one of the reasons healthcare is so expensive.  They can show up in any hospital and get good care with the taxpayers end up footing the bill.  Same for other services.  I could never figure out how these people get food stamps and eat better than the middle class who work to buy their food.  The system is broken.  Trump will fix it.

THat illegals burden the healthcare system is bunk. I do not know how an illegal person burden the welfare system. Most of the people on welfare are from southern states who are mainly GOP supporters. These are the ones conned to voting against their interest by panderers to their latent ethnic fears. It is statistically impossible for trump to become the President.

When last you went to Jamaica Hospital?  Ask about the billing and you will see who is paying for all those illegal people showing up there.  Statistically Trump is leading the polls.  

That's true. I know it all too well. There guys are in denial that taxpayers money are footing the bills for illegals. If you Marry to a resident or citizen and your wife is pregnant, you are qualify for medical coverage, food stamps, public assistance and free phone if your income is low. 

 

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Stormborn posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Trump will ensure that the benefits of America goes to people who live legally in America.  Illegals are one of the reasons healthcare is so expensive.  They can show up in any hospital and get good care with the taxpayers end up footing the bill.  Same for other services.  I could never figure out how these people get food stamps and eat better than the middle class who work to buy their food.  The system is broken.  Trump will fix it.

THat illegals burden the healthcare system is bunk. I do not know how an illegal person burden the welfare system. Most of the people on welfare are from southern states who are mainly GOP supporters. These are the ones conned to voting against their interest by panderers to their latent ethnic fears. It is statistically impossible for trump to become the President.

When last you went to Jamaica Hospital?  Ask about the billing and you will see who is paying for all those illegal people showing up there.  Statistically Trump is leading the polls.  

Statistically Trump is leading in the polls as statistically the billing at Jamaica Hospital means illegals are the burden of the health care. I think you said you went to an elite school and had an MBA and came out of there Magna Cum.  I guess it was a take home test.

FM

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