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There is this saying, "The owner of the dog is responsible for the attacks of his dog."

It is wise to control the dogs. You have given them a Backdam of which they escaped into a Pasture. And you still own them even in the Pasture. 

I am a member of GNI and not a Swamp.

Inform Dave not be saying or writing disparaging things about the owner of GNI. He should not prove the vindictive and intimidating  ways of the supporters of the Peoples Progressive Party. Such behaviour is similar to Granger's PNC. 

Dave should STOP his nonsense about the man.

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Here is my honest opinion on this matter.

No doubt there is some history between Django and Dave and it shows in how both of them regard each other. Dave is passionate but he is also very honest. He wears his beliefs and emotions on his sleeve. Django is also honest but more diplomatic in how he pursues matters. I am not in any way surprised by any of their prevailing sentiments.

That said, for a 2 plus months old endeavor the Backdam has been very successful. There is far more topics opened and discussed there than here. Indeed, there are much more active members activity there also. There are 7 forums are most of them are visited often.

But most of all the Backdam is missing something that has infected GCDF especially of late. It does not have the constant bickering as here. Sadly there is a group here that spends all their online time attacking other posters personally rather than addressing the topics being put forward. I see them as tag team that brings no value to the forum. What they mostly do is akin to cyber bullying. Today is still young and you will find several examples of that cyber bullying already. They are destroying the little civility that posters like D_G is trying to instill. When the vermin here becomes too much to stomach, the Backdam provides a very calm and serene place to escape to and recover.

Don't blame Ray. He is just providing an alternative platform and I am confident that he will know when to say when.

@Ilum posted:

Here is my honest opinion on this matter.

No doubt there is some history between Django and Dave and it shows in how both of them regard each other. Dave is passionate but he is also very honest. He wears his beliefs and emotions on his sleeve. Django is also honest but more diplomatic in how he pursues matters. I am not in any way surprised by any of their prevailing sentiments.

That said, for a 2 plus months old endeavor the Backdam has been very successful. There is far more topics opened and discussed there than here. Indeed, there are much more active members activity there also. There are 7 forums are most of them are visited often.

But most of all the Backdam is missing something that has infected GCDF especially of late. It does not have the constant bickering as here. Sadly there is a group here that spends all their online time attacking other posters personally rather than addressing the topics being put forward. I see them as tag team that brings no value to the forum. What they mostly do is akin to cyber bullying. Today is still young and you will find several examples of that cyber bullying already. They are destroying the little civility that posters like D_G is trying to instill. When the vermin here becomes too much to stomach, the Backdam provides a very calm and serene place to escape to and recover.

Don't blame Ray. He is just providing an alternative platform and I am confident that he will know when to say when.

All of this just to say that any opinion contrary to PPP propaganda is not desirable. What they want is sycophancy and dishonesty. They would not get it from this writer ever.  The PPP and its dishonest sycophants should not try to bully anyone on this forum.  Thanks Django for not buckling to their propaganda and pseudo-intellectualism.  

@Ilum posted:

Here is my honest opinion on this matter.

No doubt there is some history between Django and Dave and it shows in how both of them regard each other. Dave is passionate but he is also very honest. He wears his beliefs and emotions on his sleeve. Django is also honest but more diplomatic in how he pursues matters. I am not in any way surprised by any of their prevailing sentiments.

Don't blame Ray. He is just providing an alternative platform and I am confident that he will know when to say when.

How can someone be honest ,digging holes and using labels ? it's a form of hate and obsession,not a day go by false accusations are made up ,post are taken to become topic of discussions. Also Nova and few more double role actors join the mockery. Ray would tolerate the nonsense ,the site need followers ,any knowledge person would think otherwise. It's laughable at all conspiracy that is made up ,some come very close to the borderline of threat ,also disguising post to reveal a person true identity. I am not bothered who knows Django identity. My family will see some of the post ,sometimes they are worried if our home can be attacked ,will them don't worry about it. I am sure if it's in Guyana or home would have already been visited by goons.

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It is crooked and dishonest for a forum admin to solicit members from another forum to join his new forum and not allow members to make their own choice.

Also, it is know from discussion forums when members are given much leeway without rules and it get out of hand. It is very  difficulty to rein-in afterwards, because members sees the corrupt forum as the norm. As was once seen on this forum, with new Admin enforcing the rules.    

@Django posted:

How can someone be honest ,digging holes and using labels ? it's a form of hate obsession,not a day go by false accusations are made up ,post are taken to become topic of discussions. Also Nova and few more double role actors join the mockery. Ray would tolerate the nonsense ,the site need followers ,any knowledge person would think otherwise. It's laughable at all conspiracy that is made up ,some come very close to the borderline of threat ,also disguising post to reveal a person true identity. I am not bothered who knows Django identity. My family will see some of the post ,sometimes they are worried if our home can be attacked ,will them don't worry about it. I am sure if it's in Guyana or home would have already been visited by goons.

My comment was about his honesty and how he wears his emotions on his sleeve and not about his emotions themselves.

He doesn't hide his true feelings and thoughts.

Need some self check ,don't worry about other people and make stuff up.

Even you suggested above that he takes posts from here so they have to be true. Secondly Ray isn't tolerating nonsense because he needs followers.

Will pick post  ,thinking they may come to harm. Owners of forums should know when to draw the line ,especially when private people are being discussed.

He has nearly 50 real members in just over 2 months and most of them post almost every day. The environment is much more peaceful than it has become here. That is uncontestable.

That's great .

Ray had a reputation for being a long time fair moderator here so how could he suddenly become one devoid of character?

Where the character was tarnished ?

I know your true identity but you can be assured that your identity is safe with me.

Seems you had to dig deeper to confirm from the little i have post here, hopefully the truth was told.

I wouldn't even tell Dave.

Not bothered.

However, mine was divulged on GNI and I am still at a loss as to who had that information to share with others.

Not under my watch.

But that is beside the fact that GCDF has become a festering ground for a few posters who do nothing except attack other posters personally and you know who they are but none of them has been suspended for their unacceptable behavior since you took over.

The complaints are acknowledged ,they are warned.

The only posters who have been suspended since June are those who insult you directly and I have no problem with that because it is your right to demand as much respect as you deem necessary.

I am not aware of posters suspended since June.

My advice to you is clean up the cesspool tag team and see if you can recreate the kind of interactions this place used to enjoy a decade ago.

Got that covered.

Don't worry about the Backdam.

Who worries ? the birth of the Forum was declared here.

Although it is doing great its performance has no basis on the performance here. There are 120 current visitors here who haven't decided to become members. Now they know about the Backdam. Who knows they may find that site more appealing and join and Ray may have so many members he wouldn't need to tolerate any nonsense to build his forum.

I have and still wish Ray good luck with his Forum.

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@Ilum posted:

Here is my honest opinion on this matter.

No doubt there is some history between Django and Dave and it shows in how both of them regard each other. Dave is passionate but he is also very honest. He wears his beliefs and emotions on his sleeve. Django is also honest but more diplomatic in how he pursues matters. I am not in any way surprised by any of their prevailing sentiments.

That said, for a 2 plus months old endeavor the Backdam has been very successful. There is far more topics opened and discussed there than here. Indeed, there are much more active members activity there also. There are 7 forums are most of them are visited often.

But most of all the Backdam is missing something that has infected GCDF especially of late. It does not have the constant bickering as here. Sadly there is a group here that spends all their online time attacking other posters personally rather than addressing the topics being put forward. I see them as tag team that brings no value to the forum. What they mostly do is akin to cyber bullying. Today is still young and you will find several examples of that cyber bullying already. They are destroying the little civility that posters like D_G is trying to instill. When the vermin here becomes too much to stomach, the Backdam provides a very calm and serene place to escape to and recover.

Don't blame Ray. He is just providing an alternative platform and I am confident that he will know when to say when.

There is no history between Django and Dave, they discovered on GCDF, after Django became the Admin,  that they knew the same persons in Guyana.  There were two chronic bullies on this forum, fortunately both are no longer here. 

Similar to the short time for the Guyana government,  Backdam cannot evaluate itself as a successful forum. Allowing posters to have their own way without rules, is not an easy thing to later correct. As was proven on this forum with a new Admin enforcing the rules.  So expect some rough sailing for Backdam in the future. People don't like changes, even from their bad ways.

Backdam might be different in some ways from GCDF, but allowing  personal information is illegal and dangerous. As was seen on this forum, where posters previously became physical, with police involvement. 

Similar to other posters, moderators are politically biased.  They seem to have favourite members where they sometimes ignore reports, but act on insignificant reports from their 'friends' regarding phrases, bordering on intimidation to the poster.

Unfortunately, when Backdam has enough of no-rule posting and wanting members to follow the rules, it might be too late, where the Admin becomes the bad guy and most disliked.

Most Guyanese have an unpleasant attitude of not following rules. Unfortunately, a Guyanese discussion forum with so many different opinions cannot operate properly without rules, or it becomes chaos. 

A child or person needs to be trained from an early age to become a responsible  adult. So they don't end up on death row.       

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