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October 24 ,2020

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Dear Editor,

A few persons are saying that the Police should not investigate the fraud and attempts to steal the last Elections by some GECOM and other electoral officers.  They say that attempts to bring riggers to justice had never been done before and matters should continue that way. 

The riggers should be investigated and brought to justice  for the following reasons:

(i) It would illustrate to the young that crime does not pay and it would deter future riggers since they now know that jail terms face them for electoral fraud.

(ii) It uncovers novel rigging techniques against which Guyana would know  how to guard in the future as for example printing more birth certificates than the population of the country so as to be used in house-to-house registration or for a Returning Officer to order the Presiding Officers under him not to put certain documents in the boxes so that votes could be nullified or election petitions could be brought.  This type of fraud could be better elucidated if the Presiding Officers are charted so that they could exculpate themselves.

(iii) It would help constitutional reform to include such reforms that β€œNo political party should ever again seize control of GECOM or the electoral machinery.”  Or that no electoral loser should cling on to power on any excuse. International guarantees against such abuses should be in the new Constitution.

(iv) All persons involved in conducting national elections should be made to take an oath to uphold democracy and there should be prescribed penalties if they break their oath.

Yours faithfully,

Paul Validum Ramlochan  

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@Django posted:

The letter writer quite in order ,Electoral Rigging should be investigated by GECOM Commission ,then the police should be called in to do further investigation on the perpetrators of Electoral Fraud.

Currently the investigation is like cart before the horse and biased.

Leaving in the hands of GECOM would go nowhere because GECOM is politically structured and the GECOM quorum rules would stymy any progress as we see during those 5 months fiasco where members just don't show up in their effort to stall progress. It was right to have the police take over the investigation because the state is (or should be) more non-partisan than the current very partisan GECOM. We also see private charges against Lowenfield being dropped because the state is also pursuing those same charges against him.

@Ilum posted:

Leaving in the hands of GECOM would go nowhere because GECOM is politically structured and the GECOM quorum rules would stymy any progress as we see during those 5 months fiasco where members just don't show up in their effort to stall progress. It was right to have the police take over the investigation because the state is (or should be) more non-partisan than the current very partisan GECOM.

We also see private charges against Lowenfield being dropped because the state is also pursuing those same charges against him.

GECOM is an INDEPENDENT Organization ,political hacks shouldn't be calling the shots.

Perhaps the Private Criminal charges are dropped for lack of proving their case. What happened to the hundreds of witnesses Hanoman said he can present ?

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@Django posted:

GECOM is an INDEPENDENT Organization ,political hacks shouldn't be calling the shots.

Perhaps the Private Criminal charges are dropped for lack of proving their case. What happened to all the witnesses Hanoman said he can present ?

By all appearances GECOM is not INDEPENDENT as you suggest or the law requires. It consists of three Commissioners representing the two major parties with a tie breaker who is the Chair. That Chair goes the way of the current sitting government. Granger highhandedly sought to unilaterally and unconstitutionally install Patterson to consolidate his objective to rig the 2020 elections but thankfully Jagdeo's masterly orchestrated NCM stopped that attempt in its tracks.

Secondly the private cases were dropped because similar charges are being pursued by the state so they are rendered unnecessary. There is way more evidence to prove those currently charged guilty so lack of evidence is out of the question.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the CJ has opened the door for all of Mingo's mutilated SOPs to be admitted into evidence during the elections petition case so Holder's ruling back in May to keep them out of the public forum gone to the wayside. We will all see how diabolical Mingo was and who influenced his actions.

NEVER AGAIN MUST THE PNC SEEK TO DO WHAT THEY SOUGHT TO DO FROM MARCH 2, 2020 THRU' AUGUST 2, 2020. NEVER AGAIN.

These legal battles will ensure they don't.

@Ilum posted:

By all appearances GECOM is not INDEPENDENT as you suggest or the law requires. It consists of three Commissioners representing the two major parties with a tie breaker who is the Chair. That Chair goes the way of the current sitting government.

Granger highhandedly sought to unilaterally and unconstitutionally install Patterson to consolidate his objective to rig the 2020 elections but thankfully Jagdeo's masterly orchestrated NCM stopped that attempt in its tracks.

Secondly the private cases were dropped because similar charges are being pursued by the state so they are rendered unnecessary. There is way more evidence to prove those currently charged guilty so lack of evidence is out of the question.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the CJ has opened the door for all of Mingo's mutilated SOPs to be admitted into evidence during the elections petition case so Holder's ruling back in May to keep them out of the public forum gone to the wayside. We will all see how diabolical Mingo was and who influenced his actions.

NEVER AGAIN MUST THE PNC SEEK TO DO WHAT THEY SOUGHT TO DO FROM MARCH 2, 2020 THRU' AUGUST 2, 2020. NEVER AGAIN.

These legal battles will ensure they don't.

Most of the names on the lists presented by the Opposition Leader are currently working for the Government ,what that tells you ?

We shall find out about the current charges against the individuals ,it reeks biasness. What about the other RO's are they not in the picture ? can one imagine an MP of the PPP on the list of special prosecutors .

SOPS mayn't be the bombshell in the Election Petition Trial ,there are more than that.

Both Political Parties are involved in the 2020 Electoral RIGGING ,one have to have an open mind to accept such.

@Django posted:

Most of the names on the lists presented by the Opposition Leader are currently working for the Government ,what that tells you ?

Irrelevant. The only relevant requirement is that the list must come from the Opposition. Unfortunately Granger violated that requirement by appointing Patterson Chairman. Until the PPP does that, Granger remains the only villain.

We shall find out about the current charges against the individuals ,it reeks biasness. What about the other RO's are they not in the picture ? can one imagine an MP of the PPP on the list of special prosecutors .

It doesn't matter how it reeks. It is being tried in court so the burden will be on the court to maintain a trial that is not bias. Region 4 was the only region that was hotly contested. If the Coalition thinks other regions should be investigated they are free to file charges against the ROs from those regions. The Special Prosecutor in the Breonna Taylor case is black but yet he applied the law which did not benefit Taylor who is also black. People should still be able to honor their obligation to their job regardless of their politics. Mingo did not and the court prevented him from being biased. That same court will also be tasked with the responsibilities of preventing Datadin from being biased. Everyone in Guyana is aligned with one party or the other. But they all still have day jobs that will last long after their political careers are over. Therefore they are more inclined to protect their profession instead of their politics.

SOPS mayn't be the bombshell in the Election Petition Trial ,there are more than that.

There is noting other than the simple tally of the SOPs and SORs. The recount confirmed that the votes counted correspond with the earlier SOPs disclosed by the PPP. Everything else are fishing expeditions as declared by the CARICOM observers. Why you think Forde isn't planning to provide any evidence or witnesses? Allegations is not evidence. It is the charge. Evidence must then be presented to support those allegations in order to confirm them. The Coalition is again on a wild goose chase. They are lucky their case is already seeing the light of day. The PPP 2015 petition is still buried somewhere. But that is not necessary anymore because the PPP is rightfully back in government where they will remain for a very long time. My projection is more solid than your from a few years ago where you declared that the PPP will not be back in government for decades. That was wrong as they are back in just 5 short years.

Both Political Parties are involved in the 2020 Electoral RIGGING ,one have to have an open mind to accept such.

Only the PNC was involved in the 2020 elections rigging. It is wrong to assign any of the elections sins of the PNC during those 5 long months on the PPP. Let the PNC prove that the PPP was involved in elections rigging. Making that claim up doesn't make it correct. I know it brings you relief but remember that the truth always set us free. Accept it bai. I am not interesting in opening my mind to accepting a false claim.

@Ilum posted:

Bai, I am confident that my mind is way more open than yours.

Right now you are believing in fantasies regarding the March 2, 2020. Have a good day.

Trying the best to self praise ,unfortunately from all the writings they are biased.

The March 2 ,2020 Elections was RIGGED ,both major Political Parties are involved.There are no fantasies about that ,it's a FACT.

@Ramakant-P posted:

The Present Gecom staff is incapable of being fair.

You can’t create positive change from a negative mindset. You have to heal your pain before you can set out to heal the world. And you have to stop seeing yourself as a victim if you want to be objective and fair.

From since the GECOM Secretariat was established ,it was never fair always packed with political hacks.

@Django posted:

Trying the best to self praise ,unfortunately from all the writings they are biased.

The March 2 ,2020 Elections was RIGGED ,both major Political Parties are involved.There are no fantasies about that ,it's a FACT.

The only reason you can state that all my writing are biased is because I told you they are. On the other hand you are very biased too but you just don't admit it. Nonetheless, you are free to either be in denial or deceit.

Regarding the March 2, 2020 elections there are NO factual evidence that the PPP were involved in any rigging. On the other hand there are countless conclusive evidence of PNC attempted rigging.

When you say both major parties were involved, you sound like Trump who said there are fine people on both sides after the incident in Charlottesville.

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