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The model was faulty – Min. Jordan on Berbice River Bridge


─ “some of these PPP models, taken by the previous administration, did more harm than good for the society”

when the Coalition Government took office, an initial approach was made to the BBCI’s Board/Committee to lower tolls but this was rebuffed

The government is always willing to listen and “we will give them our feedback”

DPI, Guyana, Friday, July 13, 2018

Minister of Finance, Winston Jordan reacted with some bemusement to the recent move by the Berbice Bridge Company Incorporated (BBCI) to raise their tolls. In a Department of Public Information (DPI) exclusive, the minister said that it was interesting that these comments were being made, “when I did my windup to this year’s National Budget debate, I indicated that some of these PPP models, taken by the previous administration, did more harm than good for the society. Yes, we wanted a bridge but under the model that resulted in the bridge. I had shown that if all increases were granted, as requested in the model, where that bridge would have been. You have seen today, for example, a car would have to pay $8,000 dollars to cross.”

Minister of Finance, Winston Jordan

Minister Jordan explained that when he questioned one of the Opposition members about the figures provided, he was informed that under the model used, “several assumptions did come through.” This, he described, “as most ridiculous” since all models are built on assumptions, which should be tested under the stringiest of sensitivities. If these are tested, he added, and “fall through, then you don’t go through with the project. The model was faulty. Everybody knew the model was faulty and then the pressure would be left on the government.”

He recalled when the Coalition Government took office, an initial approach was made to the BBCI’s Board/Committee to lower tolls but this was rebuffed. The minister said, “they took the stance that the bridge was a private company and government should take their hands off so I don’t know what is the big rush for the government to get involved now? I don’t know why the stance has suddenly changed?”

The government, the minister stated, is always willing to listen and “we will give them our feedback. They made a suggestion. It came to Cabinet and Cabinet rejected it. So, it is up to them if they want to put up more (financial) models. We had put some models to them too!”

Reacting to the call made by the Opposition to sell shares, Minister Jordan said this move was taken by a shareholder who sold his to the government, in 2017. He said other shareholders may see this as a reasonable option. The BBCI Committee being private, could resort to seeking loans from banks or sell more shares on the stock exchange. He also said that he did not necessarily believe some of the utterances made with regards the BBCI’s finances by the Chairman Dr. Surendra Persaud.

Earlier this week, the Berbice Bridge Company Incorporated stated their need to double tolls for the bridge, in light of falling income citing pending bankruptcy if unable to do so. The Minister of Public Infrastructure, David Patterson, in a release, rejected the suggestion and reaffirmed the government’s position that there will be no increases to the Berbice Bridge toll. More on this story can be read at this link: http://dpi.gov.gy/govt-not-con...-minister-patterson/

By: Paul McAdam

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skeldon_man posted:

Blame the PNC for this. They are in charge and allowed shit to happen. PPP did the best they could. At least they helped the Berbicians.

"Reacting to the call made by the Opposition to sell shares, Minister Jordan said this move was taken by a shareholder who sold his to the government, in 2017. He said other shareholders may see this as a reasonable option. The BBCI Committee being private, could resort to seeking loans from banks or sell more shares on the stock exchange. He also said that he did not necessarily believe some of the utterances made with regards the BBCI’s finances by the Chairman Dr. Surendra Persaud."


 

BBCI should take this advice.

Django
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Blame the PNC for this. They are in charge and allowed shit to happen. PPP did the best they could. At least they helped the Berbicians.

"Reacting to the call made by the Opposition to sell shares, Minister Jordan said this move was taken by a shareholder who sold his to the government, in 2017. He said other shareholders may see this as a reasonable option. The BBCI Committee being private, could resort to seeking loans from banks or sell more shares on the stock exchange. He also said that he did not necessarily believe some of the utterances made with regards the BBCI’s finances by the Chairman Dr. Surendra Persaud."


 

BBCI should take this advice.

Dumb ass suggestion!  What does he think any shareholder (investor) expects in return? Instead of interest, they want dividends, likely Preferred.  This has to be more than any interest obligations given the increased risk!

They either need to subsidize or nationalize and pay off debt holders.  Minister Jordan talking in circles, dog chasing his tail!

Baseman
Mr.T posted:
It's the property of a private company. It's not up to the government to bail out failed businesses at the expense of the tax payers.

Dummy, how was the demerara bridge funded?  Taxpayers directly and indirectly.  That is why the tolls were low, just for maintenance. Do the same with bbce.  I never understood why the ppp used private capital. It’s a stupid model. So fix it by applying taxpayers money.   

Baseman

PNC racist attitude towards Indos will NEVER end in 1000 years. An Afro led PNC does not see Indos as Guyanese.

Scumbag Moses told Berbicians that he will be fighting for them. What happened now ?

In the meanwhile the good people of Linden continue to receive BILLIONS in electricity subsidies.

The Demerara Bridge was supported by the PPP with ZERO complaints. 

SMH

FM
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Baseman posted:
Mr.T posted:
It's the property of a private company. It's not up to the government to bail out failed businesses at the expense of the tax payers.

Dummy, how was the demerara bridge funded?  Taxpayers directly and indirectly.  That is why the tolls were low, just for maintenance. Do the same with bbce.  I never understood why the ppp used private capital. It’s a stupid model. So fix it by applying taxpayers money.   

like I ask the other klown who couldn't answer

what are the "terms" you suggest be IMPOSED pan the tiefmen to facilitate Gov't takeover?

there's got to be "terms" or else this is a broad daylight shakedown . . . rite?

FM
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Baseman posted:
Mr.T posted:
It's the property of a private company. It's not up to the government to bail out failed businesses at the expense of the tax payers.

Dummy, how was the demerara bridge funded?  Taxpayers directly and indirectly.  That is why the tolls were low, just for maintenance. Do the same with bbce.  I never understood why the ppp used private capital. It’s a stupid model. So fix it by applying taxpayers money.   

That's the whole point. How was that bridge funded? And why did the PPP set up such an elaborate financial structure to fund it? At the time of the disclosure of the funding plans I queried the reason why money needed to be borrowed to build the bridge, when the money was available in the first place. Some of that  money was sent abroad to be put in a bank, and nothing has ever been heard of it again.

Mr.T
Mr.T posted:
Baseman posted:
Mr.T posted:
It's the property of a private company. It's not up to the government to bail out failed businesses at the expense of the tax payers.

Dummy, how was the demerara bridge funded?  Taxpayers directly and indirectly.  That is why the tolls were low, just for maintenance. Do the same with bbce.  I never understood why the ppp used private capital. It’s a stupid model. So fix it by applying taxpayers money.   

That's the whole point. How was that bridge funded? And why did the PPP set up such an elaborate financial structure to fund it? At the time of the disclosure of the funding plans I queried the reason why money needed to be borrowed to build the bridge, when the money was available in the first place. Some of that  money was sent abroad to be put in a bank, and nothing has ever been heard of it again.

Not sure what alyuh getting so hyper over, I'm sure all that documentation is on record with the GoG.  I'm also sure NIS has full transcripts of everything as they were the major investor.  No one would invest in a venture and not have clear visibility as to the full funding arrangement and structure and value proposition.  The management of NIS has a fiduciary responsibility to the NIS shareholders.  Furthermore, this will all be reflected in the financial statements and feasibility study outcomes of the entity.

Ayuh talking sheer rubbish!

Baseman
ronan posted:
Baseman posted:
Mr.T posted:
It's the property of a private company. It's not up to the government to bail out failed businesses at the expense of the tax payers.

Dummy, how was the demerara bridge funded?  Taxpayers directly and indirectly.  That is why the tolls were low, just for maintenance. Do the same with bbce.  I never understood why the ppp used private capital. It’s a stupid model. So fix it by applying taxpayers money.   

like I ask the other klown who couldn't answer

what are the "terms" you suggest be IMPOSED pan the tiefmen to facilitate Gov't takeover?

there's got to be "terms" or else this is a broad daylight shakedown . . . rite?

Air-headed rant from a sour puss!

Baseman
Baseman posted:
Mr.T posted:
It's the property of a private company. It's not up to the government to bail out failed businesses at the expense of the tax payers.

Dummy, how was the demerara bridge funded?  Taxpayers directly and indirectly.  That is why the tolls were low, just for maintenance. Do the same with bbce.  I never understood why the ppp used private capital. It’s a stupid model. So fix it by applying taxpayers money.   

HEHEHEHEHE  Base, too many "Brilliant" people on GNI

Nehru
Baseman posted:
Mr.T posted:
Baseman posted:
Mr.T posted:
It's the property of a private company. It's not up to the government to bail out failed businesses at the expense of the tax payers.

Dummy, how was the demerara bridge funded?  Taxpayers directly and indirectly.  That is why the tolls were low, just for maintenance. Do the same with bbce.  I never understood why the ppp used private capital. It’s a stupid model. So fix it by applying taxpayers money.   

That's the whole point. How was that bridge funded? And why did the PPP set up such an elaborate financial structure to fund it? At the time of the disclosure of the funding plans I queried the reason why money needed to be borrowed to build the bridge, when the money was available in the first place. Some of that  money was sent abroad to be put in a bank, and nothing has ever been heard of it again.

Not sure what alyuh getting so hyper over, I'm sure all that documentation is on record with the GoG.  I'm also sure NIS has full transcripts of everything as they were the major investor.  No one would invest in a venture and not have clear visibility as to the full funding arrangement and structure and value proposition.  The management of NIS has a fiduciary responsibility to the NIS shareholders.  Furthermore, this will all be reflected in the financial statements and feasibility study outcomes of the entity.

Ayuh talking sheer rubbish!

Base,suh NIS said yeah good investment let us invest.

Here is some info http://www.chrisram.net/?tag=b...e-bridge-company-inc

Django
Baseman posted:
ronan posted:
Baseman posted:
Mr.T posted:
It's the property of a private company. It's not up to the government to bail out failed businesses at the expense of the tax payers.

Dummy, how was the demerara bridge funded?  Taxpayers directly and indirectly.  That is why the tolls were low, just for maintenance. Do the same with bbce.  I never understood why the ppp used private capital. It’s a stupid model. So fix it by applying taxpayers money.   

like I ask the other klown who couldn't answer

what are the "terms" you suggest be IMPOSED pan the tiefmen to facilitate Gov't takeover?

there's got to be "terms" or else this is a broad daylight shakedown . . . rite?

Air-headed rant from a sour puss!

yuh gon answer or not?

FM
Mr.T posted:

NIS got a 2/3rd stake for a 1/3rd investment. The operating costs of the bridge is minimal. So how could they be in financial trouble? The toll paid is nearly 100% clean profit.

Financing costs.  Bridge was debt financed.  

Baseman

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