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What is the cause? Anger is a control mechanism and since violence stems from anger, are most Guyanese men control freaks?

What can the govt or NGOs do to alleviate this epidemic of violence against women? Would an education campaign help? How about an education campaign targeting parents to teach their children not to abuse women? As we all know, charity starts at home.

Any thoughts, ideas?

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We need more structured mechanism ,such as the Community Centers, boys clubs and girls clubs, Scouts and Girls Guides, All Churches, back to the old days to teach wood working, baking, and sewing at schools. Yes, enforce strict alcohol laws in the bars, don't serve the drunks. Increase the price of booze and make it less accessible to the poor and uneducated.

 Set up a hotline for all domestic violence to be reported, have more social workers in the villages.

What I noted was around in the 60's and 70's, but greed and politics got in the way and neglect stepped in.

antabanta posted:

What is the cause? Anger is a control mechanism and since violence stems from anger, are most Guyanese men control freaks?

What can the govt or NGOs do to alleviate this epidemic of violence against women? Would an education campaign help? How about an education campaign targeting parents to teach their children not to abuse women? As we all know, charity starts at home.

Any thoughts, ideas?

I think liquor has a lot to do with it, deprives them of their proper senses, as in many cases you'll see them crying at the police station after they got out of their drunken stupor. Secondly, our culture is to blame. This type of behavior has been learnt by observation and openly practiced and tolerated for decades. If these men can't satisfy her or "control" her, then they beat her to "teach her a lesson". So yes, in this case many are control freaks. Happens even when they are in America.

Certainly education would help but I think of immediate need are centers for women in domestic violence situations to stay. They must know they don't have to stay in the situation; they must know violence by husbands/ boyfriends toward them is not normal behavior or accepted and there is a safe place they can go. Ample opportunity for NGO's to get involved.

Certainly there's more that can be done in terms of education also. 

Nehru posted:

Prince, if you examine the statistics carefully, most of these inhuman actions are done by uneducated IDIOTS!!! So, education and skills training will be helpful. Also, Parents, Community and the wider Religious and other community organizations can play a big Role. However, I believe the Parents are the key.

So who stopping them ? aren't Education free in Guyana.

Iguana posted:
antabanta posted:

What is the cause? Anger is a control mechanism and since violence stems from anger, are most Guyanese men control freaks?

What can the govt or NGOs do to alleviate this epidemic of violence against women? Would an education campaign help? How about an education campaign targeting parents to teach their children not to abuse women? As we all know, charity starts at home.

Any thoughts, ideas?

I think liquor has a lot to do with it, deprives them of their proper senses, as in many cases you'll see them crying at the police station after they got out of their drunken stupor. Secondly, our culture is to blame. This type of behavior has been learnt by observation and openly practiced and tolerated for decades. If these men can't satisfy her or "control" her, then they beat her to "teach her a lesson". So yes, in this case many are control freaks. Happens even when they are in America.

Certainly education would help but I think of immediate need are centers for women in domestic violence situations to stay. They must know they don't have to stay in the situation; they must know violence by husbands/ boyfriends toward them is not normal behavior or accepted and there is a safe place they can go. Ample opportunity for NGO's to get involved.

Certainly there's more that can be done in terms of education also. 

Alcohol consumption have a lot to do with domestic violence.I have experienced such as a kid,my mother couldn't take the abuse,made her mind up and parted ways with her four children,I am the eldest  around 8 yrs at the time,a very strong woman.

Older folks in communities use to step in the conflicts.In my adult life one of my friends father told me,he saw my father trying to harass my mother after parting ways,he stood to him to protect my mother.

We need more people in communities to guide people,unfortunately on my last visit to Guyana,my observation was no one cares anymore.

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Iguana posted:

@Django I suggest you edit your last post to remove your personal experience. Or delete it altogether. There are some very mean spirited people here who will use that against you for years to come. And there will be no redress by the moderators.

Thanks Iguana.

My life is an open book,let them try,i can deal with them.

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Django posted:
Iguana posted:

@Django I suggest you edit your last post to remove your personal experience. Or delete it altogether. There are some very mean spirited people here who will use that against you for years to come. And there will be no redress by the moderators.

Thanks Iguana.

My life is an open book,let them try,i will deal with them.

Foolhardy decision, but I respect it. Discretion is the better part of Valor.

Iguana posted:
Django posted:
Iguana posted:

@Django I suggest you edit your last post to remove your personal experience. Or delete it altogether. There are some very mean spirited people here who will use that against you for years to come. And there will be no redress by the moderators.

Thanks Iguana.

My life is an open book,let them try,i will deal with them.

Foolhardy decision, but I respect it. Discretion is the better part of Valor.

Bhai,i am cool person,i doan worry with naysayers,when pushed can fight fire with fire.

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Django posted:
Nehru posted:

Prince, if you examine the statistics carefully, most of these inhuman actions are done by uneducated IDIOTS!!! So, education and skills training will be helpful. Also, Parents, Community and the wider Religious and other community organizations can play a big Role. However, I believe the Parents are the key.

So who stopping them ? aren't isn't Education free in Guyana.

 I took the liberty of editing your post to correct the grammar. 

Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Nehru posted:

Prince, if you examine the statistics carefully, most of these inhuman actions are done by uneducated IDIOTS!!! So, education and skills training will be helpful. Also, Parents, Community and the wider Religious and other community organizations can play a big Role. However, I believe the Parents are the key.

So who stopping them ? aren't isn't Education free in Guyana.

 I took the liberty of editing your post to correct the grammar. 

You following in Bibi foot steps,if you feel it's worthy carry on smartly.

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Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Nehru posted:

Prince, if you examine the statistics carefully, most of these inhuman actions are done by uneducated IDIOTS!!! So, education and skills training will be helpful. Also, Parents, Community and the wider Religious and other community organizations can play a big Role. However, I believe the Parents are the key.

So who stopping them ? aren't isn't Education free in Guyana.

 I took the liberty of editing your post to correct the grammar. 

Thank you for your profound contribution to discussion of the murder/suicide epidemic in Guyana.

kp posted:

We need more structured mechanism ,such as the Community Centers, boys clubs and girls clubs, Scouts and Girls Guides, All Churches, back to the old days to teach wood working, baking, and sewing at schools. Yes, enforce strict alcohol laws in the bars, don't serve the drunks. Increase the price of booze and make it less accessible to the poor and uneducated.

 Set up a hotline for all domestic violence to be reported, have more social workers in the villages.

What I noted was around in the 60's and 70's, but greed and politics got in the way and neglect stepped in.

What problem will the structured mechanism address? Why target the poor and uneducated? What's the point of not serving drunks who're already drunk? Wouldn't restricting alcohol - the one form of recreation most people have access to - drive people mad?

Iguana posted:
antabanta posted:

What is the cause? Anger is a control mechanism and since violence stems from anger, are most Guyanese men control freaks?

What can the govt or NGOs do to alleviate this epidemic of violence against women? Would an education campaign help? How about an education campaign targeting parents to teach their children not to abuse women? As we all know, charity starts at home.

Any thoughts, ideas?

I think liquor has a lot to do with it, deprives them of their proper senses, as in many cases you'll see them crying at the police station after they got out of their drunken stupor. Secondly, our culture is to blame. This type of behavior has been learnt by observation and openly practiced and tolerated for decades. If these men can't satisfy her or "control" her, then they beat her to "teach her a lesson". So yes, in this case many are control freaks. Happens even when they are in America.

Certainly education would help but I think of immediate need are centers for women in domestic violence situations to stay. They must know they don't have to stay in the situation; they must know violence by husbands/ boyfriends toward them is not normal behavior or accepted and there is a safe place they can go. Ample opportunity for NGO's to get involved.

Certainly there's more that can be done in terms of education also. 

Liquor reduces inhibitions and may be the catalyst but there has to be something deeper that prompts the anger that results in violence. A part of the problem may be peer pressure on men to "control" their women. How will women know they don't have to remain in a detrimental situation?

Nehru posted:

Prince, if you examine the statistics carefully, most of these inhuman actions are done by uneducated IDIOTS!!! So, education and skills training will be helpful. Also, Parents, Community and the wider Religious and other community organizations can play a big Role. However, I believe the Parents are the key.

What about parents make them the key?

Django posted:
Iguana posted:
antabanta posted:

What is the cause? Anger is a control mechanism and since violence stems from anger, are most Guyanese men control freaks?

What can the govt or NGOs do to alleviate this epidemic of violence against women? Would an education campaign help? How about an education campaign targeting parents to teach their children not to abuse women? As we all know, charity starts at home.

Any thoughts, ideas?

I think liquor has a lot to do with it, deprives them of their proper senses, as in many cases you'll see them crying at the police station after they got out of their drunken stupor. Secondly, our culture is to blame. This type of behavior has been learnt by observation and openly practiced and tolerated for decades. If these men can't satisfy her or "control" her, then they beat her to "teach her a lesson". So yes, in this case many are control freaks. Happens even when they are in America.

Certainly education would help but I think of immediate need are centers for women in domestic violence situations to stay. They must know they don't have to stay in the situation; they must know violence by husbands/ boyfriends toward them is not normal behavior or accepted and there is a safe place they can go. Ample opportunity for NGO's to get involved.

Certainly there's more that can be done in terms of education also. 

Alcohol consumption have a lot to do with domestic violence.I have experienced such as a kid,my mother couldn't take the abuse,made her mind up and parted ways with her four children,I am the eldest  around 8 yrs at the time,a very strong woman.

Older folks in communities use to step in the conflicts.In my adult life one of my friends father told me,he saw my father trying to harass my mother after parting ways,he stood to him to protect my mother.

We need more people in communities to guide people,unfortunately on my last visit to Guyana,my observation was no one cares anymore.

Nuff respect to your mother. Although the point is valid, people in many communities are reluctant to interfere in husband and wife story, justified in many cases because "she must be do something to deserve it." How can we change that? What do you think could have made a difference in your own family to keep it intact?

Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Nehru posted:

Prince, if you examine the statistics carefully, most of these inhuman actions are done by uneducated IDIOTS!!! So, education and skills training will be helpful. Also, Parents, Community and the wider Religious and other community organizations can play a big Role. However, I believe the Parents are the key.

So who stopping them ? aren't isn't Education free in Guyana.

 I took the liberty of editing your post to correct the grammar. 

You following in Bibi foot steps,if you feel it's worthy carry on smartly.

A thank you would have been sufficient given that there are questions about your level of education and your insistence of presenting yourself as some sort of intellectual when in fact all you do is spread propaganda on behalf of the pnc. 

antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Nehru posted:

Prince, if you examine the statistics carefully, most of these inhuman actions are done by uneducated IDIOTS!!! So, education and skills training will be helpful. Also, Parents, Community and the wider Religious and other community organizations can play a big Role. However, I believe the Parents are the key.

So who stopping them ? aren't isn't Education free in Guyana.

 I took the liberty of editing your post to correct the grammar. 

Thank you for your profound contribution to discussion of the murder/suicide epidemic in Guyana.

First things first, djangy needs an editor. In terms of your discussion on Guyana, do you even live there? Those Guyanese actually living in Guyana and putting up with the hell hole created by the PNC will tell you to take care of your own ills before looking down your nose at them and telling them what to do. 

Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Nehru posted:

Prince, if you examine the statistics carefully, most of these inhuman actions are done by uneducated IDIOTS!!! So, education and skills training will be helpful. Also, Parents, Community and the wider Religious and other community organizations can play a big Role. However, I believe the Parents are the key.

So who stopping them ? aren't isn't Education free in Guyana.

 I took the liberty of editing your post to correct the grammar. 

You following in Bibi foot steps,if you feel it's worthy carry on smartly.

A thank you would have been sufficient given that there are questions about your level of education and your insistence of presenting yourself as some sort of intellectual when in fact all you do is spread propaganda on behalf of the pnc. 

On behalf of Django and all GNI thank you for correcting him.

What do you think of the murder/suicide epidemic ravaging Guyana's women?

antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Nehru posted:

Prince, if you examine the statistics carefully, most of these inhuman actions are done by uneducated IDIOTS!!! So, education and skills training will be helpful. Also, Parents, Community and the wider Religious and other community organizations can play a big Role. However, I believe the Parents are the key.

So who stopping them ? aren't isn't Education free in Guyana.

 I took the liberty of editing your post to correct the grammar. 

You following in Bibi foot steps,if you feel it's worthy carry on smartly.

A thank you would have been sufficient given that there are questions about your level of education and your insistence of presenting yourself as some sort of intellectual when in fact all you do is spread propaganda on behalf of the pnc. 

On behalf of Django and all GNI thank you for correcting him.

What do you think of the murder/suicide epidemic ravaging Guyana's women?

yall PNC to blame bai, yuh vote fuh dem rass, now de people teking blows and killing off each other in pnc hardtimes. 

Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:

Thank you for your profound contribution to discussion of the murder/suicide epidemic in Guyana.

First things first, djangy needs an editor. In terms of your discussion on Guyana, do you even live there? Those Guyanese actually living in Guyana and putting up with the hell hole created by the PNC will tell you to take care of your own ills before looking down your nose at them and telling them what to do. 

But you're allowed to make posts daily about issues in Guyana because you live there? Was the suicide rate lower between 1992 and 2015?

Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:

On behalf of Django and all GNI thank you for correcting him.

What do you think of the murder/suicide epidemic ravaging Guyana's women?

yall PNC to blame bai, yuh vote fuh dem rass, now de people teking blows and killing off each other in pnc hardtimes. 

That's the full extent of your thoughts on the issue? Thank you for your contribution.

antabanta posted:
Django posted:
Iguana posted:
antabanta posted:

What is the cause? Anger is a control mechanism and since violence stems from anger, are most Guyanese men control freaks?

What can the govt or NGOs do to alleviate this epidemic of violence against women? Would an education campaign help? How about an education campaign targeting parents to teach their children not to abuse women? As we all know, charity starts at home.

Any thoughts, ideas?

I think liquor has a lot to do with it, deprives them of their proper senses, as in many cases you'll see them crying at the police station after they got out of their drunken stupor. Secondly, our culture is to blame. This type of behavior has been learnt by observation and openly practiced and tolerated for decades. If these men can't satisfy her or "control" her, then they beat her to "teach her a lesson". So yes, in this case many are control freaks. Happens even when they are in America.

Certainly education would help but I think of immediate need are centers for women in domestic violence situations to stay. They must know they don't have to stay in the situation; they must know violence by husbands/ boyfriends toward them is not normal behavior or accepted and there is a safe place they can go. Ample opportunity for NGO's to get involved.

Certainly there's more that can be done in terms of education also. 

Alcohol consumption have a lot to do with domestic violence.I have experienced such as a kid,my mother couldn't take the abuse,made her mind up and parted ways with her four children,I am the eldest  around 8 yrs at the time,a very strong woman.

Older folks in communities use to step in the conflicts.In my adult life one of my friends father told me,he saw my father trying to harass my mother after parting ways,he stood to him to protect my mother.

We need more people in communities to guide people,unfortunately on my last visit to Guyana,my observation was no one cares anymore.

Nuff respect to your mother. Although the point is valid, people in many communities are reluctant to interfere in husband and wife story, justified in many cases because "she must be do something to deserve it." How can we change that? What do you think could have made a difference in your own family to keep it intact?

This is a complex problem which requires a multifaceted solution. What I heard a lot growing up was, "meh nah gah no place fuh guh, who guh mind me an me pikney" , "no man nah want woman wid pikney", "no man nah guh treat meh pikney good", "no man nah want mind adda man pikney". A lot of these women are housewives and feel that they have no options. I am not an expert but I will bet that if statistics are compared, women with some recourse are less prone to being victims of domestic violence. Then there is the cultural aspect.

GTAngler posted:
antabanta posted:

Nuff respect to your mother. Although the point is valid, people in many communities are reluctant to interfere in husband and wife story, justified in many cases because "she must be do something to deserve it." How can we change that? What do you think could have made a difference in your own family to keep it intact?

This is a complex problem which requires a multifaceted solution. What I heard a lot growing up was, "meh nah gah no place fuh guh, who guh mind me an me pikney" , "no man nah want woman wid pikney", "no man nah guh treat meh pikney good", "no man nah want mind adda man pikney". A lot of these women are housewives and feel that they have no options. I am not an expert but I will bet that if statistics are compared, women with some recourse are less prone to being victims of domestic violence. Then there is the cultural aspect.

Multifaceted indeed. Do you think there is a mental health issue? Control mechanisms anger and rage are mental health issues. Stockholm Syndrome displayed by victim housewives is also a psychological issue. 

So we have: mental health, Stockholm syndrome, alcohol, education, peer pressure/culture, recourse to alternatives, parenting (assuming this is related to education/upbringing?). What else contribute to the onslaught against against women? Frustration and depression because of poor living conditions?

Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Nehru posted:

Prince, if you examine the statistics carefully, most of these inhuman actions are done by uneducated IDIOTS!!! So, education and skills training will be he