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antabanta posted:
 

The cross is a farce that was used to enslave people. That won't help anyone. 

Might well be but not anymore than was Islam and Hinduism.  

In the case of Guyana it was the Christian churches which were the vehicle which allowed education to become available to the former slaves. A middle class emerged out of this.

FM
Drugb posted:
 

Everywhere they are brutalized daily. Why do you overseas folks feel the need to solve issues in Guyana when you can't even solve the same issues in the country that you live in. 

Guyanese (of all races) in the USA behave likewise, even though police intervention is more likely.  So the same cultural attitudes that create a problem in Guyana also do among Guyanese in the USA.

FM
caribny posted:
antabanta posted:
 

The cross is a farce that was used to enslave people. That won't help anyone. 

Might well be but not anymore than was Islam and Hinduism.  

In the case of Guyana it was the Christian churches which were the vehicle which allowed education to become available to the former slaves. A middle class emerged out of this.

Could you elaborate a little bit?

GTAngler

Ting bad, bad down deh. APNU mek tings wuss dan de bad situation PPP leff um in. When de aile money start flow dem will be less domestic violence. De economic stress is real foh dem poor blackman, coolie and Amerindian dem. But when de aile flow dem will kill demselves more pon de roads. Drink up, sport up and drive wild good...

FM
Drugb posted:

Why do you fake concern for the women of Guyana from your perch of relative luxury?  Guyanese are competent enough to take care of their own women folk when the need arises. They don't need slop can carriers like you to have debate over how they should solve their problems. 

So only you PPP boys who are always talking about raping men and fantasizing about having sex with men are allowed to comment on issues in Guyana? The people commenting on this thread ARE Guyanese concerned about their womenfolk because the need has arisen.

A
antabanta posted:

So only you PPP boys who are always talking about raping men and fantasizing about having sex with men are allowed to comment on issues in Guyana? The people commenting on this thread ARE Guyanese concerned about their womenfolk because the need has arisen.

Could it be that this latent trait for buggering males among many Guyanese men is responsible for their insecurity when it comes to their women, thus leading to physical abuse of the women?

There are quite a few men posting here who love talk about buggering men, perhaps the same ratio as there is in Guyanese society. And it's usually as a form of intimidation. Could outward machismo and dueling feelings about their own sexuality result in spontaneous outbursts of violence at the opposite sex?

FM
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Iguana posted:
antabanta posted:

So only you PPP boys who are always talking about raping men and fantasizing about having sex with men are allowed to comment on issues in Guyana? The people commenting on this thread ARE Guyanese concerned about their womenfolk because the need has arisen.

Could it be that this latent trait for buggering males among many Guyanese men is responsible for their insecurity when it comes to their women, thus leading to physical abuse of the women?

There are quite a few men posting here who love talk about buggering men, perhaps the same ratio as there is in Guyanese society. And it's usually as a form of intimidation. Could outward machismo and dueling feelings about their own sexuality result in spontaneous outbursts of violence at the opposite sex?

You should join some LGBT organization to find out. 

Billy Ram Balgobin
Iguana posted:
antabanta posted:

So only you PPP boys who are always talking about raping men and fantasizing about having sex with men are allowed to comment on issues in Guyana? The people commenting on this thread ARE Guyanese concerned about their womenfolk because the need has arisen.

Could it be that this latent trait for buggering males among many Guyanese men is responsible for their insecurity when it comes to their women, thus leading to physical abuse of the women?

There are quite a few men posting here who love talk about buggering men, perhaps the same ratio as there is in Guyanese society. And it's usually as a form of intimidation. Could outward machismo and dueling feelings about their own sexuality result in spontaneous outbursts of violence at the opposite sex?

You mean these men turn to the bamzie and now they hate women?

A
antabanta posted:

You mean these men turn to the bamzie and now they hate women?

More along the lines of their conflict re their sexuality resulting in an inability to please their women. She goes outside the relationship and their rage rises up and they beat her. Even if she doesn't go outside the relationship, their feelings of sexual inadequacy can produce rage. Incidentally, both of these factors may also cause them to commit suicide. Either DV or suicide is their outlet.

Just wondering out loud

FM
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:

Why do you fake concern for the women of Guyana from your perch of relative luxury?  Guyanese are competent enough to take care of their own women folk when the need arises. They don't need slop can carriers like you to have debate over how they should solve their problems. 

So only you PPP boys who are always talking about raping men and fantasizing about having sex with men are allowed to comment on issues in Guyana? The people commenting on this thread ARE Guyanese concerned about their womenfolk because the need has arisen.

Do you really think the people commenting on this thread are concerned about womenfolk?

Bibi Haniffa
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:
Sheik101 posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
You do know this is a forum for Guyanese and about Guyana... right? Look at the website name for a hint. Are you saying that you're not aware of an unusually high rate of violence against women in Guyana?

Based on what study? You compared statistics against the rest of the world? Or you jumping to conclusions based on newspaper articles?

Bgurd, forget about stats and newspaper articles. U know damn well that women in guyana are being brutalized on a daily basis. Some even lose their lives in the process. Sad reality. So instead of questioning Anta, u should accept this as a fact, because it is. Alas,  u are so taken up with this obsession of black baigan on every thread that your sense of reasoning has become clouded.

Everywhere they are brutalized daily. Why do you overseas folks feel the need to solve issues in Guyana when you can't even solve the same issues in the country that you live in. 

Again.. you seem to have a severe deficiency of knowledge and awareness.  Perhaps you can't stand the idea there are people who can indulge in a higher level of thought.

Yall pnc doormats can't think for yourselves. You just react instead of analyze. Where is the study that states that Guyana has more per capita domestic violence than most other countries? You think sitting in your high horse in merica and canada talking down to the people in Guyana like lilmohan will solve any issues? Take care of your own backyard before trying to tell Guyanese people that they are worst offenders. 

FM
Drugb posted:
 

Yall pnc doormats can't think for yourselves. You just react instead of analyze. Where is the study that states that Guyana has more per capita domestic violence than most other countries? You think sitting in your high horse in merica and canada talking down to the people in Guyana like lilmohan will solve any issues? Take care of your own backyard before trying to tell Guyanese people that they are worst offenders. 

You have no credibility. Keep on entertaining us with your jackassery comments.

Mitwah

Bgurd, I dont think this is a matter of stats. Or which countries have more domestic violence per capita. I think the focus here is domestic violence against women in the homeland and what can or should be done to curb this. Instead, u seem to put more emphasis on the black baigan and I'm trying to think how is this relevant or even beneficial to the thread at hand.

Sheik101
GTAngler posted:
caribny posted:
antabanta posted:
 

The cross is a farce that was used to enslave people. That won't help anyone. 

Might well be but not anymore than was Islam and Hinduism.  

In the case of Guyana it was the Christian churches which were the vehicle which allowed education to become available to the former slaves. A middle class emerged out of this.

Could you elaborate a little bit?

Start with addressing Antabanta's comment first.  I responded to him.

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:

Why do you fake concern for the women of Guyana from your perch of relative luxury?  Guyanese are competent enough to take care of their own women folk when the need arises. They don't need slop can carriers like you to have debate over how they should solve their problems. 

So only you PPP boys who are always talking about raping men and fantasizing about having sex with men are allowed to comment on issues in Guyana? The people commenting on this thread ARE Guyanese concerned about their womenfolk because the need has arisen.

Do you really think the people commenting on this thread are concerned about womenfolk?

That must be rhetorical question.

A
Drugb posted:

Yall pnc doormats can't think for yourselves. You just react instead of analyze. Where is the study that states that Guyana has more per capita domestic violence than most other countries? You think sitting in your high horse in merica and canada talking down to the people in Guyana like lilmohan will solve any issues? Take care of your own backyard before trying to tell Guyanese people that they are worst offenders. 

Right. Are you, Rat groupie, just asking for the study or do you sincerely believe there is no high rate of domestic violence in Guyana? Maybe you have a personal interest in ensuring there is no interference when men beat their women in Guyana?

A
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Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:
Sheik101 posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
You do know this is a forum for Guyanese and about Guyana... right? Look at the website name for a hint. Are you saying that you're not aware of an unusually high rate of violence against women in Guyana?

Based on what study? You compared statistics against the rest of the world? Or you jumping to conclusions based on newspaper articles?

Bgurd, forget about stats and newspaper articles. U know damn well that women in guyana are being brutalized on a daily basis. Some even lose their lives in the process. Sad reality. So instead of questioning Anta, u should accept this as a fact, because it is. Alas,  u are so taken up with this obsession of black baigan on every thread that your sense of reasoning has become clouded.

Everywhere they are brutalized daily. Why do you overseas folks feel the need to solve issues in Guyana when you can't even solve the same issues in the country that you live in. 

Again.. you seem to have a severe deficiency of knowledge and awareness.  Perhaps you can't stand the idea there are people who can indulge in a higher level of thought.

Yall pnc doormats can't think for yourselves. You just react instead of analyze. Where is the study that states that Guyana has more per capita domestic violence than most other countries? You think sitting in your high horse in merica and canada talking down to the people in Guyana like lilmohan will solve any issues? Take care of your own backyard before trying to tell Guyanese people that they are worst offenders. 

Jackass, statistics are irrelevant. One incident of domestic abuse is one too many. What if a member of your family was involved? Would you be so willing to compare statistics? SMFH...... 

GTAngler
caribny posted:
GTAngler posted:
caribny posted:
antabanta posted:
 

The cross is a farce that was used to enslave people. That won't help anyone. 

Might well be but not anymore than was Islam and Hinduism.  

In the case of Guyana it was the Christian churches which were the vehicle which allowed education to become available to the former slaves. A middle class emerged out of this.

Could you elaborate a little bit?

Start with addressing Antabanta's comment first.  I responded to him.

I have no problem with Anta's comment. That's his opinion. Reason I am asking you to elaborate is I really would like to know more about Islam and Hinduism enslaving people.

GTAngler
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:

Yall pnc doormats can't think for yourselves. You just react instead of analyze. Where is the study that states that Guyana has more per capita domestic violence than most other countries? You think sitting in your high horse in merica and canada talking down to the people in Guyana like lilmohan will solve any issues? Take care of your own backyard before trying to tell Guyanese people that they are worst offenders. 

Right. Are you, Rat groupie, just asking for the study or do you sincerely believe there is no high rate of domestic violence in Guyana? Maybe you have a personal interest in ensuring there is no interference when men beat their women in Guyana?

just as I though, a bunch of overseas high and mighty jackasses talking down to the Guyanese public. Let them people take care of their own problems, they are more than capable without your help. There are enough organizations there in Guyana to handle the issues. Instead of giving lip service, why don't you contribute to one of the organizations in Guyana like Red Thread. They do more at the grass roots level than you folks from your armchair and tight wallets in the West.

Red Thread on a mission to end Domestic Violence


 

Red Thread is slowly moving to establish a systematic and holistic approach to addressing domestic violence in Guyana.  The group is currently finalising a report on its two-year project implemented through funding from the US Department of State.

Red Thread Coordinator Karen DeSouza

The project titled “Engaging communities for improved implementation of domestic violence laws” engages residents in five communities to provide leadership and transformative action towards adequately addressing domestic violence.
The aim of the project includes generating research that could drive policy and identify areas for training and technical assistance to improve the implementation of the Domestic Violence (DV) Laws. An integral activity of the project was to assess the efficacy of the police and judicial systems in addressing DV case.
Red Thread has so far assessed, organized and mobilized community monitors in the various communities who have been observing police and court practices as it relates to addressing the social scourge.
Addressing a conference at the Education Lecture Theatre (ELT), University of Guyana Campus on Friday, Red Thread Coordinator, Karen DeSouza, told the gathering, which included a wide cross-section of representatives of stakeholder groups that although the research is in its finalized stage, the main challenges remain to help the citizenry understand their role and how to overcome common attitudes towards addressing cases of domestic violence.
According to De Souza, in the course of training the victim blaming and shaming attitude mentality by members of public particularly those involved in law enforcement was the most common challenge.
She noted that Red Thread is continuing its work with the police and judiciary to develop a more effective approach to Domestic violence

FM

Yall jackasses worry about these countries first before washing yuh mouth on Guyana. I see caribjunk countries top the list, in fact they are the top 10. But this conumunu got the nerve to talk shyte about Indo abuse. 

RankCountry% of Women Reporting Being Physically Abused by Spouses or Partners in last 12 Months
1DR Congo36.8 %
2Uganda33.3 %
3Gabon31.5 %
4Cameroon31.4 %
5Sierra Leone28.7 %
6Mozambique27.7 %
7Zimbabwe27.2 %
8Mali26.9 %
9Zambia26.7 %
10Ivory Coast22.0 %
11Namibia20.2 %
12Kyrgystan17.1 %
13Dominican Republic16.0 %
14Tajikistan15.2 %
15Haiti14.9 %
16Nepal14.3 %
17Jordan14.1 %
18Egypt14.0 %
19Peru12.9 %
20Togo12.7 %
 
FM

Druggie Caribny says that he is a black man from the English speaking Caribbean.  Don't see any of those countries there.

But what is your point really. Women's groups in Guyana report rampant domestic abuse.  I know that you obsession with big black baigan blacks all rational thought but it is what it is.  Those groups in Guyana gladly accept help from us in the Diaspora as well.  Were you not caught up in your obsession you would know this.

FM
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:

Yall pnc doormats can't think for yourselves. You just react instead of analyze. Where is the study that states that Guyana has more per capita domestic violence than most other countries? You think sitting in your high horse in merica and canada talking down to the people in Guyana like lilmohan will solve any issues? Take care of your own backyard before trying to tell Guyanese people that they are worst offenders. 

Right. Are you, Rat groupie, just asking for the study or do you sincerely believe there is no high rate of domestic violence in Guyana? Maybe you have a personal interest in ensuring there is no interference when men beat their women in Guyana?

just as I though, a bunch of overseas high and mighty jackasses talking down to the Guyanese public. Let them people take care of their own problems, they are more than capable without your help. There are enough organizations there in Guyana to handle the issues. Instead of giving lip service, why don't you contribute to one of the organizations in Guyana like Red Thread. They do more at the grass roots level than you folks from your armchair and tight wallets in the West.

What a stupid position to hold on to. Why would anyone let a moron dictate what issues to be interested in or not? Nothing you can say, no insult, dimwitted gesturing to get attention, nothing will permit you to dictate what interests me. Why is Red Thread needed if women are not being abused and brutalized in Guyana? You have decided to permit Red Thread to get involved? Who else is awaiting your permission to show concern for the brutality to women in Guyana? Please let me know because I have family there. You must be sorely disappointed there is no room for racism and your stupid rants on this thread.

A
Drugb posted:

Yall jackasses worry about these countries first before washing yuh mouth on Guyana. I see caribjunk countries top the list, in fact they are the top 10. But this conumunu got the nerve to talk shyte about Indo abuse. 

RankCountry% of Women Reporting Being Physically Abused by Spouses or Partners in last 12 Months
1DR Congo36.8 %
2Uganda33.3 %
3Gabon31.5 %
4Cameroon31.4 %
5Sierra Leone28.7 %
6Mozambique27.7 %
7Zimbabwe27.2 %
8Mali26.9 %
9Zambia26.7 %
10Ivory Coast22.0 %
11Namibia20.2 %
12Kyrgystan17.1 %
13Dominican Republic16.0 %
14Tajikistan15.2 %
15Haiti14.9 %
16Nepal14.3 %
17Jordan14.1 %
18Egypt14.0 %
19Peru12.9 %
20Togo12.7 %
 

Guyanese women go through an extreme phase of domestic violence, Kaiteur News Apr 29, 2018
Guyana is currently going through a period of serious crisis as it pertains to the prevalence of domestic violence. Women are now being more than just mere victims of abuse.
The matter has been appealed to the government to formulate action plans to curb this nationwide dilemma.
It has been noted that women are being subsequently murdered by their intimate partners. Most of the victims of this crime are those who have been facing a relationship filled with violence that has escalated over a period of time.
Within two months, there have been four murders that featured women being killed by their lovers. Two of these cases led the men to take their lives by means of poisoning.


Domestic violence up by 14.2%, Guyanatimes March 9, 2018
– over 80% are women victims – First Lady admits
As the global women empowerment movement continues to gain weight, local efforts in this regard continue to be marred by the high prevalence of gender-based violence in Guyana, which has risen 14.2 per cent over the past six years.
This societal scourge, according to First Lady Sandra Granger, has become banal in Guyana.
Public Telecommunication Minister Cathy Hughes, Foreign Affairs Minister Carl Greenidge, First Lady Sandra Granger and UN Country Coordinator Mikko Tanaka were given copies of the UK Action plan
“It seems to be not a single day passes without there being a report of someone being raped, brutalised or murdered; usually by an intimate or previous intimate partner,” she stated.


RISE to stand against domestic violence , By Staff Reporter -, Guyana Chronicle, April 29, 2018
LOCAL Non-Governmental Organisation (NGO), RISE, is concerned about the wanton loss of life due to intimate partner violence, and is about to do something about it.
The NGO intends to register its concern officially and have its voice heard today during a march and rally that will commence at 14:00hrs on Brickdam next to DEMICO House.
RISE is calling on persons to join them in their fight against domestic violence, since the issue is complex.
“We recognise that domestic violence is a complex one, and would need a raft of approaches to reduce and eliminate its occurrence,” said RISE in a press statement on Saturday.
Although a lot is being done to combat the problem, they said recent events have highlighted the need to review the current approach towards improving the fight against the social ill.
Since the year started, there have been over five reported cases of domestic violence and violence against women. In some instances, the women were killed or badly beaten by their spouses.


https://www.researchgate.net/p...c_Violence_in_Guyana
3. Domestic Violence: a look at the situation in Guyana
Domestic Violence has come to the fore of the social discourse in Guyana in recent years, leading to the
establishment of several organizations and programs that provide different layers of care for those affected
by  violence.  Guyana’s Second Periodic  Report  to CEDAW concludes  that  “[v]iolence against  women  is
widespread in Guyana,” and cites a 1998 survey of 360 women in Greater Georgetown as evidence. The
survey found that:
“Out of more than 60 percent of women who were involved in a relationship or union, 27.7 percent reported
physical abuse, 26.3 percent had experienced verbal abuse and 12.7 percent experienced sexual violence.
Approximately half of the surveyed women responded that one of the likely causes of partner’s abuse was
jealously (55.4percent) or “hot temper”. Nearly four of every five respondents perceived violence in the family
to be very common  in Guyana (76.8 percent).  More than one in  three knew someone who  was currently
experiencing domestic violence (35.5 percent).”  

(PDF) The Economic Costs of Domestic Violence in Guyana. Available from:

A

Anta, posting a few local articles does not answer the question of where Guyana stands per capita when compared to the rest of the world.  You want to prevent domestic abuse, start with your own family and teach them to respect women. Note that there is a lack of respect for women by many of the slop can boys who support pnc. yall hurl all kinds of insults against ppp women ministers yet got the nerve to come here and feign concern for women. 

FM
antabanta posted:
What a stupid position to hold on to. Why would anyone let a moron dictate what issues to be interested in or not? Nothing you can say, no insult, dimwitted gesturing to get attention, nothing will permit you to dictate what interests me. Why is Red Thread needed if women are not being abused and brutalized in Guyana? You have decided to permit Red Thread to get involved? Who else is awaiting your permission to show concern for the brutality to women in Guyana? Please let me know because I have family there. You must be sorely disappointed there is no room for racism and your stupid rants on this thread.

Where I said there was no domestic abuse in Guyana?  The point I raised is that you hypocrites should take care of abuse in your own homes and countries before washing your stink mouth on Guyana. 

FM
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
What a stupid position to hold on to. Why would anyone let a moron dictate what issues to be interested in or not? Nothing you can say, no insult, dimwitted gesturing to get attention, nothing will permit you to dictate what interests me. Why is Red Thread needed if women are not being abused and brutalized in Guyana? You have decided to permit Red Thread to get involved? Who else is awaiting your permission to show concern for the brutality to women in Guyana? Please let me know because I have family there. You must be sorely disappointed there is no room for racism and your stupid rants on this thread.

Where I said there was no domestic abuse in Guyana?  The point I raised is that you hypocrites should take care of abuse in your own homes and countries before washing your stink mouth on Guyana. 

Ain't you the jackass that posted the stats?

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
What a stupid position to hold on to. Why would anyone let a moron dictate what issues to be interested in or not? Nothing you can say, no insult, dimwitted gesturing to get attention, nothing will permit you to dictate what interests me. Why is Red Thread needed if women are not being abused and brutalized in Guyana? You have decided to permit Red Thread to get involved? Who else is awaiting your permission to show concern for the brutality to women in Guyana? Please let me know because I have family there. You must be sorely disappointed there is no room for racism and your stupid rants on this thread.

Where I said there was no domestic abuse in Guyana?  The point I raised is that you hypocrites should take care of abuse in your own homes and countries before washing your stink mouth on Guyana. 

Ain't you the jackass that posted the stats?

Why don't you ask lilomahan if he gets abused in his own house and add this to the canadian stats?

FM
Drugb posted:
Mitwah posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
What a stupid position to hold on to. Why would anyone let a moron dictate what issues to be interested in or not? Nothing you can say, no insult, dimwitted gesturing to get attention, nothing will permit you to dictate what interests me. Why is Red Thread needed if women are not being abused and brutalized in Guyana? You have decided to permit Red Thread to get involved? Who else is awaiting your permission to show concern for the brutality to women in Guyana? Please let me know because I have family there. You must be sorely disappointed there is no room for racism and your stupid rants on this thread.

Where I said there was no domestic abuse in Guyana?  The point I raised is that you hypocrites should take care of abuse in your own homes and countries before washing your stink mouth on Guyana. 

Ain't you the jackass that posted the stats?

Why don't you ask lilomahan if he gets abused in his own house and add this to the canadian stats?

Keep on braying. 

Mitwah
kp posted:
Reeper posted:

Who is this Lilmohan that drugb keeps referring? I don't see this poster in the list of posters belonging to this forum. 

You are looking for the MOST banned and MOST vulgar poster on GNI.

Prove it!

You are what you are; you are a notorious liar. There is no one here by that handle or name. 

You have no shame to come here and boast how you shake down yuh mattee coolees for fried rice for yourself and family while displaying your PNC card. Shame on you.

Mitwah
Drugb posted:

Anta, posting a few local articles does not answer the question of where Guyana stands per capita when compared to the rest of the world.  You want to prevent domestic abuse, start with your own family and teach them to respect women. Note that there is a lack of respect for women by many of the slop can boys who support pnc. yall hurl all kinds of insults against ppp women ministers yet got the nerve to come here and feign concern for women. 

You can ignore the plethora of news about domestic violence in Guyana all you want, it won't have any impact on the presence of such abuse. Perhaps if your family start teaching you about domestic violence you may come to appreciate the plight of Guyanese women. I think the PPP slop can carriers are much worse than any other slop can carriers.

A
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
What a stupid position to hold on to. Why would anyone let a moron dictate what issues to be interested in or not? Nothing you can say, no insult, dimwitted gesturing to get attention, nothing will permit you to dictate what interests me. Why is Red Thread needed if women are not being abused and brutalized in Guyana? You have decided to permit Red Thread to get involved? Who else is awaiting your permission to show concern for the brutality to women in Guyana? Please let me know because I have family there. You must be sorely disappointed there is no room for racism and your stupid rants on this thread.

Where I said there was no domestic abuse in Guyana?  The point I raised is that you hypocrites should take care of abuse in your own homes and countries before washing your stink mouth on Guyana. 

When did you decide that Guyana isn't my country? Perhaps there is abuse in your home that needs taking care of. There is none in mine. If you admit domestic abuse is prevalent in Guyana, why are you objecting to a few concerned parties raising the issue?

A
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
What a stupid position to hold on to. Why would anyone let a moron dictate what issues to be interested in or not? Nothing you can say, no insult, dimwitted gesturing to get attention, nothing will permit you to dictate what interests me. Why is Red Thread needed if women are not being abused and brutalized in Guyana? You have decided to permit Red Thread to get involved? Who else is awaiting your permission to show concern for the brutality to women in Guyana? Please let me know because I have family there. You must be sorely disappointed there is no room for racism and your stupid rants on this thread.

Where I said there was no domestic abuse in Guyana?  The point I raised is that you hypocrites should take care of abuse in your own homes and countries before washing your stink mouth on Guyana. 

When did you decide that Guyana isn't my country? Perhaps there is abuse in your home that needs taking care of. There is none in mine. If you admit domestic abuse is prevalent in Guyana, why are you objecting to a few concerned parties raising the issue?

If you notice is only you overseas migrants on your high horses who speak down to the people of Guyana. Solve the domestic abuse in your own domicile, after all this is where you live, then worry about Guyana when they surpass the statistics like in suicide rates. 

FM
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
What a stupid position to hold on to. Why would anyone let a moron dictate what issues to be interested in or not? Nothing you can say, no insult, dimwitted gesturing to get attention, nothing will permit you to dictate what interests me. Why is Red Thread needed if women are not being abused and brutalized in Guyana? You have decided to permit Red Thread to get involved? Who else is awaiting your permission to show concern for the brutality to women in Guyana? Please let me know because I have family there. You must be sorely disappointed there is no room for racism and your stupid rants on this thread.

Where I said there was no domestic abuse in Guyana?  The point I raised is that you hypocrites should take care of abuse in your own homes and countries before washing your stink mouth on Guyana. 

When did you decide that Guyana isn't my country? Perhaps there is abuse in your home that needs taking care of. There is none in mine. If you admit domestic abuse is prevalent in Guyana, why are you objecting to a few concerned parties raising the issue?

If you notice is only you overseas migrants on your high horses who speak down to the people of Guyana. Solve the domestic abuse in your own domicile, after all this is where you live, then worry about Guyana when they surpass the statistics like in suicide rates. 

A shame you haven't noticed Guyanese both in and out of Guyana are speaking of domestic abuse in Guyana. You're the only exception.

A
antabanta posted:
A shame you haven't noticed Guyanese both in and out of Guyana are speaking of domestic abuse in Guyana. You're the only exception.

Jokey bannas, everywhere in the world there is domestic abuse. Don't paint Guyana as though it is an exception. You are free to discuss the issue but don't pretend that is is exceptional per capita. 

FM
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
A shame you haven't noticed Guyanese both in and out of Guyana are speaking of domestic abuse in Guyana. You're the only exception.

Jokey bannas, everywhere in the world there is domestic abuse. Don't paint Guyana as though it is an exception. You are free to discuss the issue but don't pretend that is is exceptional per capita. 

I don't paint it. The reality paints it. The authorities paint it. The news media paints it. Multiple NGOs paint it. A host of concerned parties paint it. You are the only one who wants to ignore it.

A
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
A shame you haven't noticed Guyanese both in and out of Guyana are speaking of domestic abuse in Guyana. You're the only exception.

Jokey bannas, everywhere in the world there is domestic abuse. Don't paint Guyana as though it is an exception. You are free to discuss the issue but don't pretend that is is exceptional per capita. 

I don't paint it. The reality paints it. The authorities paint it. The news media paints it. Multiple NGOs paint it. A host of concerned parties paint it. You are the only one who wants to ignore it.

His posits here speaks volumes of him as a possible abuser. 

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
A shame you haven't noticed Guyanese both in and out of Guyana are speaking of domestic abuse in Guyana. You're the only exception.

Jokey bannas, everywhere in the world there is domestic abuse. Don't paint Guyana as though it is an exception. You are free to discuss the issue but don't pretend that is is exceptional per capita. 

I don't paint it. The reality paints it. The authorities paint it. The news media paints it. Multiple NGOs paint it. A host of concerned parties paint it. You are the only one who wants to ignore it.

His posits here speaks volumes of him as a possible abuser. 

Do you know who on GNI lives in any of these places? If so, and they are concerned about the problem, we should raise the issue. Does Drugb live in the Congo or Uganda?

1DR Congo36.8 %
2Uganda33.3 %
3Gabon31.5 %
4Cameroon31.4 %
5Sierra Leone28.7 %
6Mozambique27.7 %
7Zimbabwe27.2 %
8Mali26.9 %
9Zambia26.7 %
10Ivory Coast22.0 %
11Namibia20.2 %
12Kyrgystan17.1 %
13Dominican Republic16.0 %
14Tajikistan15.2 %
15Haiti14.9 %
16Nepal14.3 %
17Jordan14.1 %
18Egypt14.0 %
19Peru12.9 %
20Togo12.7 %
A
Mitwah posted:
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
A shame you haven't noticed Guyanese both in and out of Guyana are speaking of domestic abuse in Guyana. You're the only exception.

Jokey bannas, everywhere in the world there is domestic abuse. Don't paint Guyana as though it is an exception. You are free to discuss the issue but don't pretend that is is exceptional per capita. 

I don't paint it. The reality paints it. The authorities paint it. The news media paints it. Multiple NGOs paint it. A host of concerned parties paint it. You are the only one who wants to ignore it.

His posits here speaks volumes of him as a possible abuser. 

And you are not an abuser?  Have you not tried to run several women off this site with public abuse?

Bibi Haniffa

So... if, hopefully, we've moved past the detractors and distractions, the brainstorming raised many points that I think are centered around culture, ignorance, lack of support for victims. I suggest the govt or relevant parties in Guyana should focus on educating children from kindergarten through secondary school about tolerance and self-control. There might be enough shelters in the urban areas for victims but none in the rural areas. Regardless, victims also need to be made aware of their options and that they have no need to remain in abusive relationships which brings us back to education. I suggest the govt or relevant parties launch a massive, on-going media campaign to educate women about their options, to educate the general public that the mothers and nurturers in any society should be treated with consideration instead of abuse, to push a culture change that makes a man understand he's no less of a man for not having absolute control of his wife/woman, and to educate people of the debilitating economic and social impact on society in general of abuse.

A
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mitwah posted:
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
A shame you haven't noticed Guyanese both in and out of Guyana are speaking of domestic abuse in Guyana. You're the only exception.

Jokey bannas, everywhere in the world there is domestic abuse. Don't paint Guyana as though it is an exception. You are free to discuss the issue but don't pretend that is is exceptional per capita. 

I don't paint it. The reality paints it. The authorities paint it. The news media paints it. Multiple NGOs paint it. A host of concerned parties paint it. You are the only one who wants to ignore it.

His posits here speaks volumes of him as a possible abuser. 

And you are not an abuser?  Have you not tried to run several women off this site with public abuse?

LOL! What a hypocrite! No offense to my Black Friends and family. You are the perfect example that epitomize the idiom: The pot calling the kettle black.

It's on record here how you abuse anyone who is not a BJ fan because you worship him for his money and that big mansion. Please allow me to whisper to you! He is not interested in you. You are too old and feral. 

Mitwah
antabanta posted:

So... if, hopefully, we've moved past the detractors and distractions, the brainstorming raised many points that I think are centered around culture, ignorance, lack of support for victims. I suggest the govt or relevant parties in Guyana should focus on educating children from kindergarten through secondary school about tolerance and self-control. There might be enough shelters in the urban areas for victims but none in the rural areas. Regardless, victims also need to be made aware of their options and that they have no need to remain in abusive relationships which brings us back to education. I suggest the govt or relevant parties launch a massive, on-going media campaign to educate women about their options, to educate the general public that the mothers and nurturers in any society should be treated with consideration instead of abuse, to push a culture change that makes a man understand he's no less of a man for not having absolute control of his wife/woman, and to educate people of the debilitating economic and social impact on society in general of abuse.

Excellent points. The only thing, Guyanese at home have no appreciation or respect for Guyanese in the diaspora giving them solutions to their problems. 

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mitwah posted:
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
A shame you haven't noticed Guyanese both in and out of Guyana are speaking of domestic abuse in Guyana. You're the only exception.

Jokey bannas, everywhere in the world there is domestic abuse. Don't paint Guyana as though it is an exception. You are free to discuss the issue but don't pretend that is is exceptional per capita. 

I don't paint it. The reality paints it. The authorities paint it. The news media paints it. Multiple NGOs paint it. A host of concerned parties paint it. You are the only one who wants to ignore it.

His posits here speaks volumes of him as a possible abuser. 

And you are not an abuser?  Have you not tried to run several women off this site with public abuse?

LOL! What a hypocrite! No offense to my Black Friends and family. You are the perfect example that epitomize the idiom: The pot calling the kettle black.

It's on record here how you abuse anyone who is not a BJ fan because you worship him for his money and that big mansion. Please allow me to whisper to you! He is not interested in you. You are too old and feral. 

The subject is "Epidemic of violence against women"  you just prove that you are an abuser.  Question? Why can't you contribute something meaningful on the forum other than cussing down and insulting people, personally I don't think you were brought up that way, you need lots of help. You are a perpetual liar, if the truth hit you ,you wouldn't know. GET HELP!!!

K
Mitwah posted:
antabanta posted:

So... if, hopefully, we've moved past the detractors and distractions, the brainstorming raised many points that I think are centered around culture, ignorance, lack of support for victims. I suggest the govt or relevant parties in Guyana should focus on educating children from kindergarten through secondary school about tolerance and self-control. There might be enough shelters in the urban areas for victims but none in the rural areas. Regardless, victims also need to be made aware of their options and that they have no need to remain in abusive relationships which brings us back to education. I suggest the govt or relevant parties launch a massive, on-going media campaign to educate women about their options, to educate the general public that the mothers and nurturers in any society should be treated with consideration instead of abuse, to push a culture change that makes a man understand he's no less of a man for not having absolute control of his wife/woman, and to educate people of the debilitating economic and social impact on society in general of abuse.

Excellent points. The only thing, Guyanese at home have no appreciation or respect for Guyanese in the diaspora giving them solutions to their problems. 

That is a shame because there is an abundance of Guyanese in the diaspora, educated, trained, and experienced, who, collectively can probably address any problem and who are willing and able to contribute to Guyana. I heard that one of the factors restricting acceptance of voluntary help from the diaspora is the impact on drawbacks.

A
kp posted:
Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mitwah posted:
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
A shame you haven't noticed Guyanese both in and out of Guyana are speaking of domestic abuse in Guyana. You're the only exception.

Jokey bannas, everywhere in the world there is domestic abuse. Don't paint Guyana as though it is an exception. You are free to discuss the issue but don't pretend that is is exceptional per capita. 

I don't paint it. The reality paints it. The authorities paint it. The news media paints it. Multiple NGOs paint it. A host of concerned parties paint it. You are the only one who wants to ignore it.

His posits here speaks volumes of him as a possible abuser. 

And you are not an abuser?  Have you not tried to run several women off this site with public abuse?

LOL! What a hypocrite! No offense to my Black Friends and family. You are the perfect example that epitomize the idiom: The pot calling the kettle black.

It's on record here how you abuse anyone who is not a BJ fan because you worship him for his money and that big mansion. Please allow me to whisper to you! He is not interested in you. You are too old and feral. 

The subject is "Epidemic of violence against women"  you just prove that you are an abuser.  Question? Why can't you contribute something meaningful on the forum other than cussing down and insulting people, personally I don't think you were brought up that way, you need lots of help. You are a perpetual liar, if the truth hit you ,you wouldn't know. GET HELP!!!

Shut yuh cassava white mouth. You are an ass hole. 

Mitwah
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Mitwah posted:
kp posted:
Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mitwah posted:
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
A shame you haven't noticed Guyanese both in and out of Guyana are speaking of domestic abuse in Guyana. You're the only exception.

Jokey bannas, everywhere in the world there is domestic abuse. Don't paint Guyana as though it is an exception. You are free to discuss the issue but don't pretend that is is exceptional per capita. 

I don't paint it. The reality paints it. The authorities paint it. The news media paints it. Multiple NGOs paint it. A host of concerned parties paint it. You are the only one who wants to ignore it.

His posits here speaks volumes of him as a possible abuser. 

And you are not an abuser?  Have you not tried to run several women off this site with public abuse?

LOL! What a hypocrite! No offense to my Black Friends and family. You are the perfect example that epitomize the idiom: The pot calling the kettle black.

It's on record here how you abuse anyone who is not a BJ fan because you worship him for his money and that big mansion. Please allow me to whisper to you! He is not interested in you. You are too old and feral. 

The subject is "Epidemic of violence against women"  you just prove that you are an abuser.  Question? Why can't you contribute something meaningful on the forum other than cussing down and insulting people, personally I don't think you were brought up that way, you need lots of help. You are a perpetual liar, if the truth hit you ,you wouldn't know. GET HELP!!!

Shut yuh cassava white mouth. You are an ass hole. 

Just as I stated, perverted abuser.

K
antabanta posted:

So... if, hopefully, we've moved past the detractors and distractions, the brainstorming raised many points that I think are centered around culture, ignorance, lack of support for victims. I suggest the govt or relevant parties in Guyana should focus on educating children from kindergarten through secondary school about tolerance and self-control. There might be enough shelters in the urban areas for victims but none in the rural areas. Regardless, victims also need to be made aware of their options and that they have no need to remain in abusive relationships which brings us back to education. I suggest the govt or relevant parties launch a massive, on-going media campaign to educate women about their options, to educate the general public that the mothers and nurturers in any society should be treated with consideration instead of abuse, to push a culture change that makes a man understand he's no less of a man for not having absolute control of his wife/woman, and to educate people of the debilitating economic and social impact on society in general of abuse.

You are making plans in a vacuum, you really think lilmohan and company of the pnc care to defend women?  In addition you forget to mention that police need to enforce existing laws against domestic abuse. Many times wife makes complaints and the police takes no action. Ask tamesh , he got away with this for years.  

FM
antabanta posted:
Mitwah posted:
antabanta posted:

So... if, hopefully, we've moved past the detractors and distractions, the brainstorming raised many points that I think are centered around culture, ignorance, lack of support for victims. I suggest the govt or relevant parties in Guyana should focus on educating children from kindergarten through secondary school about tolerance and self-control. There might be enough shelters in the urban areas for victims but none in the rural areas. Regardless, victims also need to be made aware of their options and that they have no need to remain in abusive relationships which brings us back to education. I suggest the govt or relevant parties launch a massive, on-going media campaign to educate women about their options, to educate the general public that the mothers and nurturers in any society should be treated with consideration instead of abuse, to push a culture change that makes a man understand he's no less of a man for not having absolute control of his wife/woman, and to educate people of the debilitating economic and social impact on society in general of abuse.

Excellent points. The only thing, Guyanese at home have no appreciation or respect for Guyanese in the diaspora giving them solutions to their problems. 

That is a shame because there is an abundance of Guyanese in the diaspora, educated, trained, and experienced, who, collectively can probably address any problem and who are willing and able to contribute to Guyana. I heard that one of the factors restricting acceptance of voluntary help from the diaspora is the impact on drawbacks.

We can talk all we want until the cows come home, until societies (including Guyana) address both sides of the coin, the role of women in instigating, perpetrating and committing abuse against men (in their way), this will be a losing battle.

Abuse by women against men are an accepted norm, something the man should tolerate, but when he lashes out, he becomes the villain!  The fact that women complain a lot, does not mean they are always the victim!

No DV or abuse is right, but unless it's addressed holistically and in totality, we are in a losing battle!

A good relationship takes two, a bad relationship also took two!

NOW LET ME SEE OUR RESIDENT LIAR GO SPREAD THAT I CONDONE DV!

Baseman
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:

So... if, hopefully, we've moved past the detractors and distractions, the brainstorming raised many points that I think are centered around culture, ignorance, lack of support for victims. I suggest the govt or relevant parties in Guyana should focus on educating children from kindergarten through secondary school about tolerance and self-control. There might be enough shelters in the urban areas for victims but none in the rural areas. Regardless, victims also need to be made aware of their options and that they have no need to remain in abusive relationships which brings us back to education. I suggest the govt or relevant parties launch a massive, on-going media campaign to educate women about their options, to educate the general public that the mothers and nurturers in any society should be treated with consideration instead of abuse, to push a culture change that makes a man understand he's no less of a man for not having absolute control of his wife/woman, and to educate people of the debilitating economic and social impact on society in general of abuse.

You are making plans in a vacuum, you really think lilmohan and company of the pnc care to defend women?  In addition you forget to mention that police need to enforce existing laws against domestic abuse. Many times wife makes complaints and the police takes no action. Ask tamesh , he got away with this for years.  

I'm not making plans. The purpose of this thread is to discuss the issue and raise awareness. If you think it's okay for us to discuss your comments about issues in Guyana, we can review lack of response from the police. Let me know if it's okay.

A
Baseman posted:
antabanta posted:
Mitwah posted:
antabanta posted:

So... if, hopefully, we've moved past the detractors and distractions, the brainstorming raised many points that I think are centered around culture, ignorance, lack of support for victims. I suggest the govt or relevant parties in Guyana should focus on educating children from kindergarten through secondary school about tolerance and self-control. There might be enough shelters in the urban areas for victims but none in the rural areas. Regardless, victims also need to be made aware of their options and that they have no need to remain in abusive relationships which brings us back to education. I suggest the govt or relevant parties launch a massive, on-going media campaign to educate women about their options, to educate the general public that the mothers and nurturers in any society should be treated with consideration instead of abuse, to push a culture change that makes a man understand he's no less of a man for not having absolute control of his wife/woman, and to educate people of the debilitating economic and social impact on society in general of abuse.

Excellent points. The only thing, Guyanese at home have no appreciation or respect for Guyanese in the diaspora giving them solutions to their problems. 

That is a shame because there is an abundance of Guyanese in the diaspora, educated, trained, and experienced, who, collectively can probably address any problem and who are willing and able to contribute to Guyana. I heard that one of the factors restricting acceptance of voluntary help from the diaspora is the impact on drawbacks.

We can talk all we want until the cows come home, until societies (including Guyana) address both sides of the coin, the role of women in instigating, perpetrating and committing abuse against men (in their way), this will be a losing battle.

Abuse by women against men are an accepted norm, something the man should tolerate, but when he lashes out, he becomes the villain!  The fact that women complain a lot, does not mean they are always the victim!

No DV or abuse is right, but unless it's addressed holistically and in totality, we are in a losing battle!

A good relationship takes two, a bad relationship also took two!

NOW LET ME SEE OUR RESIDENT LIAR GO SPREAD THAT I CONDONE DV!

Talk doesn't take much out of us. It's the sole purpose of this forum. Do you prefer to cuss and 'buse and hurl racial insults till the cows come home or have an objective discussion about a real issue until the cows come home?

Indeed, all abuse should be considered. But I think we can safely say there is a much higher percentage of female victims than male.

A
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Mitwah posted:
antabanta poste

His posits here speaks volumes of him as a possible abuser. 

To the contrary. He speaks like an abuse victim.  Maybe his black baigan is abusing him.

Now Baseman sounds like an abuser.  Implying that something that women do triggers an attack.

FM
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caribny posted:
Mitwah posted:
antabanta poste

His posits here speaks volumes of him as a possible abuser. 

To the contrary. He speaks like an abuse victim.  Maybe his black baigan is abusing him.

Now Baseman sounds like an abuser.  Implying that something that women do triggers an attack.

Looks like you are the one coming up in google search for usage of "black bigan" You keep repeating it as though you want some, but lilly and djangy already hog it all to themselves. 

FM
Mitwah posted:
yuji22 posted:

KP Bhai and Mitwah Bahi need to draw a truce.

The fact that KP is  willing to admit holding a PNC card and celebrate extorting Indians for free food, Lord only knows what he is not willing to admit in public!  I met his partner in crime who never practiced as a pundit in Guyana but became a Pundit overnight as soon as he landed in TO. My friend from De William confirmed their shake down of their mattee coolees for free fried rice.

There are lots of cases of exploitation of females in Guyana by men with little, or pretend, power. Further I say not.

I SUGGEST STOP YOUR F--KING LIE SHOW THE BOARD EVIDENCE THAT I ADMIT TO WHAT YOU STATED AND IF YOU CAN'T DON'T BLAME ME FOR THE CONSEQUENCE.

K
caribny posted:
Mitwah posted:
antabanta poste

His posits here speaks volumes of him as a possible abuser. 

To the contrary. He speaks like an abuse victim.  Maybe his black baigan is abusing him.

Now Baseman sounds like an abuser.  Implying that something that women do triggers an attack.

Caribj, as usual, you refer to all Indians as racist and Clannish.  Anyone who disagrees with you, you malign and shut up with the "nuclear war" option.

Just like with the Guyana political/race situation, you haul it out your arse!  Below is a study conducted by Harvard on DV in the USA.  Now go cuss dem White people!

Harvard study says 70 percent of domestic violence is committed by women against men

 

  Photo of Boudicataken in London England by Joseph Earnest

by Joseph Earnest November 15, 2013

Newscast Media HOUSTON—Three years ago I wrote an article based on a scientific study done by Harvard Medical School that revealed domestic violence was not as one-sided as the media often depicts it.  The article to this very day is the second most popular article I've written and is widely cited online and offline.

I have since discovered that the original article that was published on the Harvard Medical School Web site has been scrubbed, and my guess is that certain activist groups perhaps pressured the professors to remove it.  Most of these institutions depend on endowments and grants to function, so it is understandable how that may have been the cause of its removal. As you can see, if you click on this original hyperlink, the article is gone:

However, fear not.  Even three years ago, my discernment and sound judgment enabled me to envisage something like that happening, so I took a screen-shot of the entire article, just in case it was taken down.  I am re-posting the article and will compress it into PDF format that way you are able to use it as a reference resource.  You will find the PDF at the very end of the article.

One thing about Newscast Media is that it does not receive any funds from sponsors and is self-funded, therefore we are not beholden to any entity, and have the liberty to publish content as we so wish. That's what true independent and objective journalism exemplifies.

Another interesting aspect of the article is the comments section.  There are over 250 comments on this particular article, that you might find either amusing, or instructive at the very end. Below is the original article:

 

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Original article by Joseph Earnest July 15, 2010

 

 Newscast Media HOUSTON—As the media flashes images and plays tapes of Mel Gibson screaming at his former lover, one has to wonder what the other side of the story is. It is obvious that Mel Gibson was set up by his girlfriend, whom he claims tried to extort him. While I don't condone any kind of violence, I have to present to my reading audience some cold hard facts that the 'mainstream media' has chosen to ignore in relation to domestic violence.

Forensic expert  Arlo West said on Good Morning America, in regard to the tapes, "I believe these are professionally done. I think she had help. She clearly was speaking into what we call a large diaphragm microphone. Her voice is very well engineered. She sounds great. To authenticate a recording it must be an original."

The information presented to you comes from investigative research of data produced by reputable organizations like Harvard Medical School, The Center for Disease Control (CDC) and the American Psychiatric Association, just to mention a few.

The mainstream media seems to imply that men are the sole perpetrators of violence against women, but research proves otherwise.  A recent study by Harvard Medical School conducted a survey of 11,000 men and women and found that 50% of the violence was reciprocal. Both men and women also took responsibility for being equally violent in the heat of passion. 

The Harvard study found that when violence was one-sided, meaning unprovoked, both men and the women themselves who took the study said 70% of the time it was the women who committed violence against the men.

Baseman
kp posted:
Mitwah posted:
yuji22 posted:

KP Bhai and Mitwah Bahi need to draw a truce.

The fact that KP is  willing to admit holding a PNC card and celebrate extorting Indians for free food, Lord only knows what he is not willing to admit in public!  I met his partner in crime who never practiced as a pundit in Guyana but became a Pundit overnight as soon as he landed in TO. My friend from De William confirmed their shake down of their mattee coolees for free fried rice.

There are lots of cases of exploitation of females in Guyana by men with little, or pretend, power. Further I say not.

I SUGGEST STOP YOUR F--KING LIE SHOW THE BOARD EVIDENCE THAT I ADMIT TO WHAT YOU STATED AND IF YOU CAN'T DON'T BLAME ME FOR THE CONSEQUENCE.

I take that as a serious threat to my well being.  I am not one of them coolies that you used to shake down for fried rice. BTW, dem used to spit and add feces in it before giving it you to eat. 

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:
kp posted:
Mitwah posted:
yuji22 posted:

KP Bhai and Mitwah Bahi need to draw a truce.

The fact that KP is  willing to admit holding a PNC card and celebrate extorting Indians for free food, Lord only knows what he is not willing to admit in public!  I met his partner in crime who never practiced as a pundit in Guyana but became a Pundit overnight as soon as he landed in TO. My friend from De William confirmed their shake down of their mattee coolees for free fried rice.

There are lots of cases of exploitation of females in Guyana by men with little, or pretend, power. Further I say not.

I SUGGEST STOP YOUR F--KING LIE SHOW THE BOARD EVIDENCE THAT I ADMIT TO WHAT YOU STATED AND IF YOU CAN'T DON'T BLAME ME FOR THE CONSEQUENCE.

I take that as a serious threat to my well being.  I am not one of them coolies that you used to shake down for fried rice. BTW, dem used to spit and add feces in it before giving it you to eat. 

Looks like spit and feces are the spices you used in your cooking for your everyday meal. I will get someone to "shake down in your ass hole" your purpose on GNI is looking for a strong man, perverted Gay Boy. Don't get scared, I can put the fix on you, so continue the Bull Shit of LIES.

K
kp posted:

Looks like spit and feces are the spices you used in your cooking for your everyday meal. I will get someone to "shake down in your ass hole" your purpose on GNI is looking for a strong man, perverted Gay Boy. Don't get scared, I can put the fix on you, so continue the Bull Shit of LIES.

I take that as another threat. Why the vulgarity and screaming?

Mitwah
Drugb posted:
 

Looks like you are the one coming up in google search for usage of "black bigan" You keep repeating it as though you want some, but lilly and djangy already hog it all to themselves. 

You are the one who introduced that topic and blabbers about it daily.  Screaming about all of those Indos selling out because they are using a big black bigan.  So you are the expert on that.

FM
Baseman posted:

 

Original article by Joseph Earnest July 15, 2010

 

 Newscast Media HOUSTON—As the media flashes images and plays tapes of Mel Gibson screaming at his former lover, one has to wonder what the other side of the story is. It is obvious that Mel Gibson was set up by his girlfriend, whom he claims tried to extort him. While I don't condone any kind of violence, I have to present to my reading audience some cold hard facts that the 'mainstream media' has chosen to ignore in relation to domestic violence.

Forensic expert  Arlo West said on Good Morning America, in regard to the tapes, "I believe these are professionally done. I think she had help. She clearly was speaking into what we call a large diaphragm microphone. Her voice is very well engineered. She sounds great. To authenticate a recording it must be an original."

The information presented to you comes from investigative research of data produced by reputable organizations like Harvard Medical School, The Center for Disease Control (CDC) and the American Psychiatric Association, just to mention a few.

The mainstream media seems to imply that men are the sole perpetrators of violence against women, but research proves otherwise.  A recent study by Harvard Medical School conducted a survey of 11,000 men and women and found that 50% of the violence was reciprocal. Both men and women also took responsibility for being equally violent in the heat of passion. 

The Harvard study found that when violence was one-sided, meaning unprovoked, both men and the women themselves who took the study said 70% of the time it was the women who committed violence against the men.

Let's not be comfuffled by the numbers. 50% of the violence was reciprocal means half of the violence committed by both men and women was in retaliation.

The 70% number refers only to one-sided, unprovoked violence. Does that mean there is a large number of provoked violence committed by men? What is considered provoked violence? Is that excusable?

A
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seignet posted:
Mitwah posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
You do know this is a forum for Guyanese and about Guyana... right? Look at the website name for a hint. Are you saying that you're not aware of an unusually high rate of violence against women in Guyana?

Based on what study? You compared statistics against the rest of the world? Or you jumping to conclusions based on newspaper articles?

You got too much slop in your head and black bigan up your rear end. You are asking stupid questions.

Hey GTAngler, yuh tink this post is assinine?

Your Christ have failed these women. They are told to endure domestic violence in the name of God.

"Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Saviour."
Ephesians 5: 22-23

ABC.Net

 

 

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:
kp posted:

Looks like spit and feces are the spices you used in your cooking for your everyday meal. I will get someone to "shake down in your ass hole" your purpose on GNI is looking for a strong man, perverted Gay Boy. Don't get scared, I can put the fix on you, so continue the Bull Shit of LIES.

I take that as another threat. Why the vulgarity and screaming?

Yuh rass get frighten, Lilly will not be happy that you have caused conflict that might affect him personally 

FM
antabanta posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

It’s comical to see abusers of women discuss domestic violence.  Shame check please!!!!  Or y’all don’t have none?

I wonder why some people are not only reluctant to discuss this issue but actively opposed to anyone else raising it.

I wont have much time until tonight, busy time of the month for me.

Let me make it clear, men who I read abuse their wives over dinner not ready, not like this or that, they need the book thrown at them.  I don't include them in what I deem a balanced approach.

Anyway, it's good you bring up the topic as it's a worthy discussion however, someone having a different view on the solution to this issue does not mean they oppose you.

As I said, this issue is not one sided and cannot be solved with a one-sided approach.

Baseman
Bibi Haniffa posted:

It’s comical to see abusers of women discuss domestic violence.  Shame check please!!!!  Or y’all don’t have none?

Yes, it is comical coming from you.  You are one who claims women working on chartiable/social issues in Guyana must be sleeping around with ministers to get their agenda pushed and with rich men to get funding.  You claim they are frauds and thieves!  You are exceptionally vicious against other women in this space, not in the least Varshanie!

You are one of the most prolific verbal abuser of both men and women on this board who disagrees with you or dislike BJ.  You also abuse people not on this site and not able to defend themselves!  You even abuse the virtue of a new-born baby two years ago!

So please, spare us your crocodile tears!

Baseman
antabanta posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

It’s comical to see abusers of women discuss domestic violence.  Shame check please!!!!  Or y’all don’t have none?

I wonder why some people are not only reluctant to discuss this issue but actively opposed to anyone else raising it.

She has an "L" stamped on her forehead.

Mitwah
caribny posted:

Baseman who are discussing domestic violence.   Post links to all the men in Guyana who have been murdered by women.

And even your Harvard link isnt credible as it cites people's opinions. Now when they cite police records then we can talk.

Yes dummy, and the "dummy" who liked your stupid comment.  What Harvard documented is the precursor to what end up as police and court cases!  Only a fraction of what they documented actually escalate to a police case!

And dummy, it was not opinion, it was facts of relationships taken from couples!

Baseman
antabanta posted:

So... if, hopefully, we've moved past the detractors and distractions, the brainstorming raised many points that I think are centered around culture, ignorance, lack of support for victims. I suggest the govt or relevant parties in Guyana should focus on educating children from kindergarten through secondary school about tolerance and self-control. There might be enough shelters in the urban areas for victims but none in the rural areas. Regardless, victims also need to be made aware of their options and that they have no need to remain in abusive relationships which brings us back to education. I suggest the govt or relevant parties launch a massive, on-going media campaign to educate women about their options, to educate the general public that the mothers and nurturers in any society should be treated with consideration instead of abuse, to push a culture change that makes a man understand he's no less of a man for not having absolute control of his wife/woman, and to educate people of the debilitating economic and social impact on society in general of abuse.

So... we should add ineffective policing for consideration but must bear in mind that the police can only act if a crime is reported or a complaint lodged. If a man or woman runs to the police for protection then refuse to follow up with a complaint, we're back to education and culture change. If, at a micro level, a victim keeps crying for help but refuse to prosecute the abuser, the police will get fed-up after a while and stop responding, which might unfortunately be the one time they should have responded.

So... we're back to education and culture change.

A

I congratulate Anta for bringing up this very important topic.  Kudos also to the good resposese, which covered the main resons behind this malaise. It seems that not a week goes in Guyana without some man battering, maiming or killing his girlfriend or wife. Very  distressing indeed!

I think this phenomenon also highlights another truth.  When we think of corruption in Guyana, we immediately (and mainly) think of politicians. And yes, many of that breed are corrupt.  However, a deeper look at Guyana reveals that moral rot and decay is THROUGHOUT the society - from cops shaking down citizens for a bribe, men having mistresses, prostitution, business people and others running rackets, corruption in the civil service and the judicial system, etc, etc, etc.....

This gets me to thinking that, when we boil it down, it's a PEOPLE PROBLEM - across the board.  People living in Guyana have gotten accustomed to it, it seems.  Many of them accept this is 'just the way things are'.  How do you fight that?

FM
Quantum posted:
This gets me to thinking that, when we boil it down, it's a PEOPLE PROBLEM - across the board.  People living in Guyana have gotten accustomed to it, it seems.  Many of them accept this is 'just the way things are'.  How do you fight that?

Feel free to make suggestions.

I suggest change starts at the top.

A

Studies have shown the damages to the brain from constant physical abuse. The laws in Guyana need to be changed to allow the statements from the victims to be submitted into evidence especially when the alleged abused is invoking her rights not to testify against the husband or vice versa. This is a primary reason for the police being reluctant to act in these matters. 

Boys see their fathers doing it while the girls see their mothers being beaten up. They grow up with the impression that this is all normal and OK.

Perhaps the school is best place to start the education process that it's not OK.

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:

Studies have shown the damages to the brain from constant physical abuse. The laws in Guyana need to be changed to allow the statements from the victims to be submitted into evidence especially when the alleged abused is invoking her rights not to testify against the husband or vice versa. This is a primary reason for the police being reluctant to act in these matters. 

Boys see their fathers doing it while the girls see their mothers being beaten up. They grow up with the impression that this is all normal and OK.

Perhaps the school is best place to start the education process that it's not OK.

School is a good start but I think you learn more from the home environment than from school. After all school cannot remove the image of abuse that you see at home. An approach is needed for adults - to deal with and educate abusers and to deal with and educate victims.

A

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