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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Kari:

 

 

The AFC achieved more than its goals...... got a lot of Ministries; etc.

Kari I showed your posts on the other thread where you said only the fringe vote race.  I warned you that I would remind you of this post after the election, and of course you try to worm your own way out.

 

nistries"  How good this over load is for Guyana will remain to be seen.

You showed nothing...nada....NOTHING.

 

So stop blabbing about what you warned about.

 

Show the posts about Indians not voting race in boatloads. Show me!

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:

Or do they need to go on a tangent about who voted where and get into a Storm-like treatise on Guyana's voting patterns with inferences. We don't have the type of data to get into these esoteric diatribe that Base and Carib indulg in.

Only Kari will think that one can ponder the futures of these 3 parties without looking at their bases.  We know that the PPP has a base as does APNU.  We still don't know if AFC has its own base.  If they leave APNU who will they bring with them?

 

And Kari every one in Guyana knows that this was about race.  It doesn't matter whether 89.3% or 95.6% of Indians voted PPP.  We know that the PPP reversed its declining support and we know that the 35k more votes that they got this election vs. 2011 is way more than the number of votes which Nagamootoo took from them.

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Kari:

 

 

The AFC achieved more than its goals...... got a lot of Ministries; etc.

Kari I showed your posts on the other thread where you said only the fringe vote race.  I warned you that I would remind you of this post after the election, and of course you try to worm your own way out.

 

Kari while we speak there are folks in the PNC who want to know what the AFC did to deserve 40% of cabinet.  With 25 ministers I can expect this talk to intensify.

 

Yes you are correct.  The AFC "got a lot of ministries"  How good this over load is for Guyana will remain to be seen.

 

No AFC coalition APNU won't even be talking about Ministries. They'd be talking about shadow Ministries. They said half-a-loaf is better than none.

Kari
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Kari:

Or do they need to go on a tangent about who voted where and get into a Storm-like treatise on Guyana's voting patterns with inferences. We don't have the type of data to get into these esoteric diatribe that Base and Carib indulg in.

Only Kari will think that one can ponder the futures of these 3 parties without looking at its base.

 

And Kari every one in Guyana knows that this was about race.  It doesn't matter whether 89.3% or 95.6% of Indians voted PPP.  We know that the PPP reversed its declining support and we know that 35k more votes that they got this election vs. 2011 is way more than the number of votes which Nagamootoo took from them.

2011 elections AFC + APNU = 51%

 

2015 elections APNU + AFC = 51%

 

Caribny's conclusion - PPP raised its number of votes, ipso facto AFC lost Indian votes.

 

You treat statistics just like Rev.

Kari
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Kari:

 

 

The AFC achieved more than its goals...... got a lot of Ministries; etc.

Kari I showed your posts on the other thread where you said only the fringe vote race.  I warned you that I would remind you of this post after the election, and of course you try to worm your own way out.

 

Kari while we speak there are folks in the PNC who want to know what the AFC did to deserve 40% of cabinet.  With 25 ministers I can expect this talk to intensify.

 

Yes you are correct.  The AFC "got a lot of ministries"  How good this over load is for Guyana will remain to be seen.

Smart, strategy for 2020 and beyond.  First thing, get rid of the "overload", now who can argue with that...well, not even the AFC.  Take Kari though middle school on "long-game" strategy, honorable Caribj!

 

As I said, "c00lies" are a stupid bunch.

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
 

No AFC coalition APNU won't even be talking about Ministries. They'd be talking about shadow Ministries. They said half-a-loaf is better than none.

Kari like you said you don't know, because even you cannot prove that Moses wasn't a bigger gift to the PPP than he was to the coalition. 

 

Recall that the increased votes in Region 7 and 10 was MORE than the PPP loss.

 

It is indeed possible that the PPP killing people in Linden and screwing over the small miners and unleashing the Chinese on those people did more for the coalition than Moses who probably generated 2 or more votes for the PPP for each vote that he actually took from them.

 

Any way the AFC got 10 ministers, which means that APNU gets 15.  All in a nation where 40% of the youths are unemployed.

FM
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Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by caribny:

Kari I showed your posts on the other thread where you said only the fringe vote race.  I warned you that I would remind you of this post after the election, and of course you try to worm your own way out.

 

Kari while we speak there are folks in the PNC who want to know what the AFC did to deserve 40% of cabinet.  With 25 ministers I can expect this talk to intensify.

 

Yes you are correct.  The AFC "got a lot of ministries"  How good this over load is for Guyana will remain to be seen.

 

No AFC coalition APNU won't even be talking about Ministries. They'd be talking about shadow Ministries. They said half-a-loaf is better than none.

Now, because of a few "crab c00lies" like you, Indians don't have half a loaf, like pre-1992, they will have crumbs.

FM
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Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by Kari:
 

2011 elections AFC + APNU = 51%

 

2015 elections APNU + AFC = 51%

 

 

* Hold on there Mullah!

 

* That should be:

 

2011 APNU + AFC = 51.3%

 

2015 APNU + AFC = 50.3%

 

* Hopefully in 2020---the 1% slide will continue---and it will be APNU + AFC 49.3%hahahaha

 

Rev

You becoming as stupid as them:

2020 PNC/GDF 55%, AFC/PPP 45%.

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
 

2011 elections AFC + APNU = 51%

 

2015 elections APNU + AFC = 51%

 

Caribny's conclusion - PPP raised its number of votes, ipso facto AFC lost Indian votes.

 

You treat statistics just like Rev.

Kari before revealing that your intellect is at the level of Nehru's why don't you look at the results for yourself and compare them with 2011? FOR EACH REGION.  We know who lives in each region, and we also know which party attracts which base.

 

You will discover that the PPP matched the coalition in votes generated in the coastal areas, but fell behind in Regions 7 and 10.  This because those populations are African and mixed.  APNU AFC increased its vote by over 5000 in those regions, more than the over all loss.

 

Kari if folks in Linden and Bartica voted as this did in 2011 the AFC would be engaged in a law suit with APNU to get their 12 seats.  If folks are wondering why Moses deserves so much when the coalition won, imagine what they would have been saying if it lost, and the pressure that would have been on Granger to give the AFC its 7 seats and wish them the best.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

You becoming as stupid as them:

2020 PNC/GDF 55%, AFC/PPP 45%.

 

* You're getting overly emotional baseman.

 

* DIS TIME NAH LANG TIME.

 

* If the AFC pulls out of the coalition---the PNC will return to being a 40% party.

 

* The way I see it ---the AFC will remain KINGMAKERS in Guyana politics.

 

RE: THE GDF

 

* Your fears are misguided.

 

Rev

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:

Smart, strategy for 2020 and beyond.  First thing, get rid of the "overload", now who can argue with that...well, not even the AFC.  Take Kari though middle school on "long-game" strategy, honorable Caribj!

 

As I said, "c00lies" are a stupid bunch.

 

4 sentences that sound like they were uttered by a drunken deranged mind. What the hell do they mean? Eh, Einstein?

Kari

Kari Region 2 coalition increased its votes by 1,900.  PPP did by 3,500.  Region 3 coalition up 3,600 PPP up by 6,900.  Region 5 coalition up by 1,400 PPP up by 3,100.  Region 6 coalition LOST 100 votes, PPP up by 7,100.

 

You know Guyana so tell me what your conclusion is.  Take into account that as the African/mixed vote increased significantly in Regions 4, 7 and 10 there is no reason why it wouldn't have also increased in other regions in Guyana.  Note that African and mixed people account for 40% of the Region 5 population.

 

Basically the PPP was able to use the Moses factor to gain votes in its heartland.  I can only think of that as a reason why it reversed its trend of declining votes, and added almost 30k more voters in the coastal regions than it received in 2011.  They definitely didn't get more popular in that 3 year period.

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Kari:
 

No AFC coalition APNU won't even be talking about Ministries. They'd be talking about shadow Ministries. They said half-a-loaf is better than none.

Kari like you said you don't know, because even you cannot prove that Moses wasn't a bigger gift to the PPP than he was to the coalition. 

 

Recall that the increased votes in Region 7 and 10 was MORE than the PPP loss.

 

It is indeed possible that the PPP killing people in Linden and screwing over the small miners and unleashing the Chinese on those people did more for the coalition than Moses who probably generated 2 or more votes for the PPP for each vote that he actually took from them.

 

Any way the AFC got 10 ministers, which means that APNU gets 15.  All in a nation where 40% of the youths are unemployed.

Recall that the increased votes in Region 7 and 10 was MORE than the PPP loss.

 

Here we go again - a load of poppycock!

Kari
Originally Posted by Rev:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

You becoming as stupid as them:

2020 PNC/GDF 55%, AFC/PPP 45%.

 

* You're getting overly emotional baseman.

 

* DIS TIME NAH LANG TIME.

 

* If the AFC pulls out of the coalition---the PNC will return to being a 40% party.

 

* The way I see it ---the AFC will remain KINGMAKERS in Guyana politics.

 

RE: THE GDF

 

* Your fears are misguided.

 

Rev

 

 

Mr Rev, that's what you said when I warned you of the possibility of a PPP lost a week before May 11.  Mark my words, the PNC will never lose again, ask Caribj, he must be laughing and high "fiveing" at how stupid we c00lies are.

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Kari:
 

2011 elections AFC + APNU = 51%

 

2015 elections APNU + AFC = 51%

 

Caribny's conclusion - PPP raised its number of votes, ipso facto AFC lost Indian votes.

 

You treat statistics just like Rev.

Kari before revealing that your intellect is at the level of Nehru's why don't you look at the results for yourself and compare them with 2011? FOR EACH REGION.  We know who lives in each region, and we also know which party attracts which base.

 

You will discover that the PPP matched the coalition in votes generated in the coastal areas, but fell behind in Regions 7 and 10.  This because those populations are African and mixed.  APNU AFC increased its vote by over 5000 in those regions, more than the over all loss.

 

Kari if folks in Linden and Bartica voted as this did in 2011 the AFC would be engaged in a law suit with APNU to get their 12 seats.  If folks are wondering why Moses deserves so much when the coalition won, imagine what they would have been saying if it lost, and the pressure that would have been on Granger to give the AFC its 7 seats and wish them the best.

Kari before revealing that your intellect is at the level of Nehru's why don't you look at the results for yourself and compare them with 2011? FOR EACH REGION.  We know who lives in each region, and we also know which party attracts which base.

 

Here we go again with inane nonsense!

Kari
Originally Posted by Kari:
 

Recall that the increased votes in Region 7 and 10 was MORE than the PPP loss.

 

Here we go again - a load of poppycock!

You can engage in your emotional meltdown Kari but it is obvious to all that Moses didn't deliver the margins that he needed to in PPP strongholds.  The PPP added 30k more votes in these places. 

 

APNU added 28k more votes in Region 4, mainly Gtwn. And enjoyed a record turnout in Linden, adding 4,400 more votes.  Bartica delivered another 1300.

 

APNU AFC did NOT win on the basis of improved margins in the rural coastal areas.  It won on the basis of better margins in Georgetown and in the mining/forestry areas!

 

Kari these facts are well known and are being TALKED about!

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by Rev:
 

* If the AFC pulls out of the coalition---the PNC will return to being a 40% party.

 

* The way I see it ---the AFC will remain KINGMAKERS in Guyana politics.

 

RE: THE GDF

 

* Your fears are misguided.

 

Rev

 

 

Exactly.............

Another way is saying that the black and mixed vote with the AFC got in 2011 migrates over to the APNU.  We can debate as to where the Indian segment will go.  What we do know is that by 2020 the Indian segment will be smaller than it is today.

 

I seriously don't know what the fate of the AFC outside of the coalition will be.  The PPP will not want them.  I have a suspicion that APNU isn't going to give up so much to the AFC in 2020.

FM
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