And the winner in the November 2012 election ...

President Barack Obama.

• Highest sustained unemployment
• Lack-luster economy at best

Lackluster but 1000 times bette than 4 years ago. We were going down baby down.. Nissan and toyota would have been the only Auto makers.

The Unemployment rate 4 year ago was 8.6%, today it's 8.2% and rising again.  How did you compute that 1000%?  The issue of GM was the unions which needed to be broken.  GM was going to return even if it was allowed a controlled bankruptcy or what Obama and many Dems and Reps had supported.  Anyone who think the Reps would have let GM disappear is naive.  However, that being said, Obama did make the call and deserves credit.

Reagan inherited approx 9.5% unemployment and it stood at 7% by the end of his first term.  Reason, he understood how to work with both sides.  Obama is a liberal evangelical.

Only a simpleton would declare that the unemployment rate was 8.6% 4 years ago and now it's at 8.2% and rising. You have to look at the entire picture to understand what has been happening. The unemployment rate was at 8.6 heading in an upward trend towards 10.1 when Obama took over. It's at 8.2% today after trending downwards over the last 2 years. It ticked up from 8.1 to 8.2 last month but that does not mean that the trend shows it rising. One bad month is not considered a trend.

Reagan did not inherit a country on the brink of a great depression. Big difference.

Well, many will take exception to your characterization of things in 1980.

"Simpleton", well that's politics, get used to it.  How do people refer to Bush.  There are 1,000 explanations and mitigating reasons why things went South under his watch.  Why do you think Hillary called Obama a big liar in 2008?  BTW, with Reagan unemployment shot up to almost 11% in his first 10 months and Reagan reached out to the other side and arrested the decline.  This is effective leadership.

Talk about simpleton, do you really think that Obamacare will materially impact healthcare in the USA.  Anyone who think so is naive.  This is a band aid solution on the real sore.  The run away costs on healthcare in the US is structural and systemic and all what either Hillarycare and now Obamacare did were/are populist approaches to a deep-rooted problem.  This is just squeezing the bubble for what brings votes.  Hillary made big Pharma the villains, Obama makes big insurance.  Big pharma is on the ropes, a decade long stagnation resulting in little or no innovation and a patent cliff.  If you are not careful, big insurance will find a way to shed risk and limit losses and the buck will fall back onto the Govt.  Insurance companies just pay the bill, someone else runs it up.

The lack of coverage in the US is driven by runaway costs/affordability caused by litigation, the practice of defensive medicine, an overarching FDA stifling drug innovation, a culture of excessive patient expectations resulting in massive infrastructure build-out at all levels.  I understand why it's politically suicide to attack this as Corporations don't vote but the many people who are part of the runaway system do.

In the end, the US is headed for a Greece-style meltdown if entitlement costs are not reined in AND some type of wealth re-balancing is not addressed. I do give Obama credit for addressing this 10% problem and maybe he take on the real hornet's nest on his 2nd watch.

Baseman......you way off base here man.

Now that you know the difference between the Great Recession (like Obama's) and the other milder recessions (like Reagan's); the structural jobs market where the US finds itself in the middle of; and the growing entitlement population, you decided to pivot to a meandering commentary on Health Care.

Ii feel your pain man. universal coverage for Health Care is in an upward arc in the US. The Hispanic demographic is in an ascendancy. And like Appalachia the country looks different and you want to take it back. Moreover you've been kicked in the teeth with the two rulings this week of the conservative US Supreme Court. I feel your pain man.....maybe you'll hitch a ride on Newt Gingrich's moon buggy to the Appalachia colony up there......

Nah banna, I hitched a ride to the USA on a 727 and no two-bit demagogue like you could make me hitch a ride to anywhere.

As I said, that's your personal opinion predicated on your ideological slant.  Take time to do the math and you will see, it kicks the problem down the road.  This was a good legal victory, but not as substantive as you like to believe.  I expected most to survive anyway and was 50/50 on the individual mandate.

BTW, Newt had good ideas, leaving everything else aside.

Hay, at least I'm honest man.

Baseman, Your ideological slant is so steep you are about to fall offf Mt Everest.

Yea, I know I have a hard Right slant, the slant on which the great Western civilization was built.

You Leftist liberals made a mess of Guyana, mess of the entire Eastern world, now you bringing the same shit here.

BTW, if the "Right" don't create wealth, you Lefties will have little to share around.  Just ask the Soviets.  This is also what destroyed Guyana.

Teah you slanting like the robber Barrons on Wall Street. Glad you are out of guyana's Leadership.

Wall streets problems was created by a Liberal agenda to facilitate everyone's home ownership desires, a Leftist pipe dream.  But as usual, you blame the messenger.  Wall street did little wrong, your liberal policy makers were the true villains.

Dat is the BIGGEST BULLSHIT I ever heard! I know you are NOT that Stupid.

Dissect, analyze and revert with something more substantive!

re [i]: again copying & pasting stuff you seem to barely understand off the internet from 4 years ago . . . no one is impressed with your 'command' of industry jargon.

BTW, what do industry problems with a "patent cliff" have to do with health care legislation?

re [ii]: "Greece style meltdown" . . . dude, get a grip!

Wall Street knew what they were doing. Lendind a million dollars to purchase a 200,000 dollars house and collecting Interest, Fees and commmission. I can explain it in Canecutter level if you wish.

Liberal/Liberalism is present in the US-of-A for ages.

Bhai, Like we gat to teach Lil Boy Baseman everything.

B-man...you certainly would not call G W Bush a liberal, but by golly, he's the one who set the equity ownership for housing at 65% of the population. The vehicle? Enforcement of Bill Clinton's red-lining (remember no discrimination in poor communities when it comes to mortgage lending?) and the government backed agencies of Fanny and Freddie.

The above is not the cause of the housing crisis and the financial meltdown. No siree, it was the abuse of that wonderful financial instrument of reducing risk by spreading risk - Credit Default Swaps. Tnhe abuse? $1 of loan being turned around about 30 times and every stop of the way there's ka-ching $$$$. You know what facilitated that? Yes, lack of regulatory oversight. Imagine the Richmond Hill mortgage lenders telling you that you can own a home even if you're not working, has a felony record, and on top of that give you a mortgage of 125% of the (inflated) value of the property.

So it ain't got nuthin' to do with left liberals, mah man.

Easy lesson good fuh Dunce.

Did i say that, get the whole picture and the gist of my comment you clown.  What did I cut and paste from 4 years ago, no clue what the hell you alluding to.  I don't look to impress you or anyone else.  Impressing you is not a feather in anyone's cap, so don't flatter yourself.

That's your take, you believe what you want to and be happy with that.

Well I have to agree with you. No one will take Prof Dankey Cart seriously.

Be a bit more than a cheerleader.

Work on expanding your vocab more than 10 words per shot.  There is hope for everyone.

Bhai, You ned to first of all, learn to know FACTS from FICTION. Thes basic lessons can take you far, far.

Don't dare me dude; you'll LOSE!

BTW, I never claimed that you were posting to impress ME . . .

My comment to you stand, try facing your own headwind, try being your own man, or is that a tall order.

Your vocab expanded to 1000 BUT 999 are PURE SHIT. Keep Braying .

HEHEHE Two SNAKEOIL Salebmen in a Fight like two Hoes.

Yes I do, I posting here of free will and mind, post where it was some cut and paste from 4 years ago.  If it coincides, then clearly I'm on the ball, don't you agree.

hehehe DIS LIKER WAN bIG mARKET hoe bRAWL.

Is THAT your 'get out of jail free' card? . . . too clever by half

As I said, get better, move your game up.

I AM LOVING THIS HOE DOWN. ABIDHA AH WEH YUH DEH?

As I said post it.

BRAY DANKEY BRAY  ABIDAH YUH MISSING THIS BHAI?