D2 posted:
Drugb posted:
D2 posted:
Drugb posted:

I am not disputing that some form of wild rice was cultivated in Africa. In fact rice is a grass and grass grows everywhere. What is questionable is whether its foundation as a commercial crop began in Africa.  Also, not sure where you got your information of rice in Africa 6000 years ago. Please reference this article, it says China was the origin.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/rice/his...ebating-origins-rice

Dude ease up. In your hastiness to be critical you made a transparently discoverable mistake. Adding the term "commercial" into your statement does not clarify. It is ugly dissimulation. Africa was using rice as a food crop for some thousands of years. Whether it was six or 3.5 thousand years it was a hell of a long time ago. I wrote extemporaneously, I will have to check how I came by the date but my error is not the point of discussion here. It is yours that you so egregiously defend constantly as if denigrating African history is always your aim.  The reality is the world has had a few civilizations and Africa stands as one of  of incomparable greatness. 

If you and the sloppy boys would pay attention, you would note that I stated that rice was never prevalent in Africa.  In fact the academics agree that it was first cultivated in China. However it looks like many of you Granger brown nosers have an agenda to rush to accredit afros with the least of accomplishments even if not true. Soon you will tell us that they discovered the cure for polio.  

still trying to walk when you are on broken legs...lie to yourself if you must. What you said is above.

Don't blame me, see the link I provided, no mention of africa is made. I guess you know more than the folks at London Global university.

caribny posted:

Your original scream was that cook up rice couldn't be "black man food" because according to you blacks knew nothing about rice before Indians arrived. 

In your simpleton ways you dont consider that one pot dishes with rice are popular among black communities from South Carolina all the way down to Brazil, so yes consumption of rice was known long before the first Indian indenture walked off the plank in British Guiana.

The rice was clearly NOT being sourced in India or China as the transportation of that era wouldn't have permitted it.  In fact rice was grown in South Carolina and elsewhere and shipped to the Caribbean slave plantations, together with salted meats and corn/wheat flour.  Ground provisions and plantains were grown in the Caribbean, hence your illogical notion that this is the only foods that blacks knew about.

In fact the African rice was of a different species than the Asian so in fact its YOU who need to thank the Chinese for their rice. Africans had domesticated the varieties that they found there. 

Given the different settlement patterns and the lower population densities Africans had no need for huge plantations as did the Indians and the Chinese.  Their economies were based on producing what they needed and buying what they couldn't produce. Their trading partners in North Africa also had rice so there was no need to sell it to them.

The issue with African vs. Asian rice is this. During the colonial era cocoa, coffee and palm oil were the commercial crops, not rice, so all of the focus on improving rice varieties that occurred under the FAO and other organizations was focused on the Asian varieties.  So today the Asian varieties are higher yielding whereas the African varieties remain relative unchanged.

Never made such a scream, just questioned how rice became blackman food when it originated in China. But you will note that even the sakiwinki bird man acknowledged that cookup is a dish found across all cultures. 

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

Your original scream was that cook up rice couldn't be "black man food" because according to you blacks knew nothing about rice before Indians arrived. 

In your simpleton ways you dont consider that one pot dishes with rice are popular among black communities from South Carolina all the way down to Brazil, so yes consumption of rice was known long before the first Indian indenture walked off the plank in British Guiana.

The rice was clearly NOT being sourced in India or China as the transportation of that era wouldn't have permitted it.  In fact rice was grown in South Carolina and elsewhere and shipped to the Caribbean slave plantations, together with salted meats and corn/wheat flour.  Ground provisions and plantains were grown in the Caribbean, hence your illogical notion that this is the only foods that blacks knew about.

In fact the African rice was of a different species than the Asian so in fact its YOU who need to thank the Chinese for their rice. Africans had domesticated the varieties that they found there. 

Given the different settlement patterns and the lower population densities Africans had no need for huge plantations as did the Indians and the Chinese.  Their economies were based on producing what they needed and buying what they couldn't produce. Their trading partners in North Africa also had rice so there was no need to sell it to them.

The issue with African vs. Asian rice is this. During the colonial era cocoa, coffee and palm oil were the commercial crops, not rice, so all of the focus on improving rice varieties that occurred under the FAO and other organizations was focused on the Asian varieties.  So today the Asian varieties are higher yielding whereas the African varieties remain relative unchanged.

Never made such a scream, just questioned how rice became blackman food when it originated in China. But you will note that even the sakiwinki bird man acknowledged that cookup is a dish found across all cultures. 

Never....a typical Jagdeo moment,  trying to scare Berbicians  to vote for the PPP.

When is Jagdeo going to  get Berbicians to protest against the Berbice bridge toll increase. So they can cream his ass wid BP.    

Tola posted:
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

Your original scream was that cook up rice couldn't be "black man food" because according to you blacks knew nothing about rice before Indians arrived. 

In your simpleton ways you dont consider that one pot dishes with rice are popular among black communities from South Carolina all the way down to Brazil, so yes consumption of rice was known long before the first Indian indenture walked off the plank in British Guiana.

The rice was clearly NOT being sourced in India or China as the transportation of that era wouldn't have permitted it.  In fact rice was grown in South Carolina and elsewhere and shipped to the Caribbean slave plantations, together with salted meats and corn/wheat flour.  Ground provisions and plantains were grown in the Caribbean, hence your illogical notion that this is the only foods that blacks knew about.

In fact the African rice was of a different species than the Asian so in fact its YOU who need to thank the Chinese for their rice. Africans had domesticated the varieties that they found there. 

Given the different settlement patterns and the lower population densities Africans had no need for huge plantations as did the Indians and the Chinese.  Their economies were based on producing what they needed and buying what they couldn't produce. Their trading partners in North Africa also had rice so there was no need to sell it to them.

The issue with African vs. Asian rice is this. During the colonial era cocoa, coffee and palm oil were the commercial crops, not rice, so all of the focus on improving rice varieties that occurred under the FAO and other organizations was focused on the Asian varieties.  So today the Asian varieties are higher yielding

Never....a typical Jagdeo moment,  trying to scare Berbicians  to vote for the PPP.

When is Jagdeo going to  get Berbicians to protest against the Berbice bridge toll increase. So they can cream his ass wid BP.    

It might be useful if you dress up in your best skirt and ask him. Just make sure that the buckta don't have bottom. 

Drugb posted:
So the folks at London Global were liars . . .?

the London Global paper is a poorly conceived red herring of yours . . . having nothing to do with the issues on the table

incredibly, it's quite possible that you may actually be too stupid to understand this

ronan posted:
Drugb posted:
So the folks at London Global were liars . . .?

the London Global paper is a poorly conceived red herring of yours . . . having nothing to do with the issues on the table

incredibly, it's quite possible that you may actually be too stupid to understand this

Go light on that bhai, scowered the internet to find one half baked article that rice have no connection to Africa, to prove his warped point.

Baseman posted:

Rice is a variation of grass, so is wheat.  How can anyone believe there was no African specie.  However, other food staples took hold in Africa.  Corn became more staple and require less water.

Some modern day people, forgets about ancient civilization contribution to our existence. Every human on this planet past and present can be credited for food production,medicine, etc for prolonging our existence.

Look at the ole USA we are a melting pot, people with ideas and thoughts created modern things that enhance our lives at a such fast pace that is beyond the realm of imagination.Some day in the future there may be arguments who created such things first,the Western world or the Eastern world.

Some people are stuck in their ways,they are hard nuts to crack.

African rice Oryza Glaberrima, distinct from Asian rice Oryza Sativa, was domesticated and cultivated for millennia in West Africa from the Niger Delta to the Sahel as history & science documents, see PNAS abstract here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC138616/

the link https://www.ucl.ac.uk/rice/his...ebating-origins-rice famously provided by drugb points to offerings from a UCL project on Asian rice and it's antiquity

a red herring par for the course for our resident shakeabatty who knows no science and is somewhat unaware of his own stupidity

independent domestication timelines of Oryza Glaberrima vs. Oryza Sativa are an irrelevant scientific debate outside the scope of our discussion here

the fact that i have to belabor the obvious is bizarre

Django posted:
That was also long, I have contributed a lot on that thread.

I used to think you and Gil were family and that he was sharing the answers with you because you always answered all the questions.  

ronan posted:

African rice Oryza Glaberrima, distinct from Asian rice Oryza Sativa, was domesticated and cultivated for millennia in West Africa from the Niger Delta to the Sahel as history and science documents, see PNAS abstract here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC138616/

the link https://www.ucl.ac.uk/rice/his...ebating-origins-rice famously provided by drugb points to offerings from a UCL project on Asian rice and it's antiquity

independent domestication timelines of Oryza Glaberrima vs. Oryza Sativa are an irrelevant scientific debate outside what is being discussed here

the fact that i have to belabor the obvious is bizarre

Interesting read...even the douglarization aspect of the rice itself and that Andre guy!  Ok, I was joking.  But seriously, it was interesting to read!

Oh, we just crossed into page # 9

Leonora posted:
Django posted:
That was also long, I have contributed a lot on that thread.

I used to think you and Gil were family and that he was sharing the answers with you because you always answered all the questions.  

We are from the same Region,he knows one of my relative,they were in the same Secondary School.

Leonora posted:
Baseman posted:
Leonora posted:

Serious question:  guys, there was a thread here yesterday about Mahdia, what happened to it? I was at a Greek wedding.

That banna really into the Baigan thingy!  It exposed some [shameful] sick inner cravings of the mentally unstable!  As the saying goes, once you went Black, you can't go back!

I was in Queens and shared it with a few persons before it was deleted, including two women.  They had their Oh My Grandma moment!! 

You should have shared it with Dr. Bharrat Jagdeo to show him what his supporters are doing on a Guyanese site, and that such behavior will never garner PPP votes. He needs to caution them.

Poor guy, he has a lot of other things to worry about other than fretting over some old Bunga Bunga Queen with innate carnal fantasies.  I don't envy the Dhal Bai situation!!  He has a tough fight to save abie!!

Leonora posted:
Django posted:
That was also long, I have contributed a lot on that thread.

I used to think you and Gil were family and that he was sharing the answers with you because you always answered all the questions.  

That's when I discovered that Django was a good researcher. He is even better now.

Gilbakka posted:
Leonora posted:
Django posted:
That was also long, I have contributed a lot on that thread.

I used to think you and Gil were family and that he was sharing the answers with you because you always answered all the questions.  

That's when I discovered that Django was a good researcher. He is even better now.

Django has too much frigging time on his hand.  5 am, he done crow and on GNI talking shyte aaaaaaallllll freaking day.  Ms "Background Check" has been Checkmated by Mr "Good Researcher!"  What a sorrowful freaking equivalency!

Me almost had it out wid a guy hea, until me found out he gave me a contact in Singapore  and picked me up in Toronto, after a project in Uganda and drove me to Buffalo,  for a flight and photo project  in New York. Betta watch who you fight with.

Me click so good wid Cain, dat me tink he is me long lost brother in GY, but abie colour might be different.    

cain posted:

I never took off my snows..I did a bit of work on the car so it was hardly driven. Other vehicles here I can use if needed.

Snow tires [not all-season] are mandatory in some provinces. Studs are discouraged, due to the damage it does to the road.

The police here photograph tires in an accident and mixing tires are not allowed.

Both Costco and Canadian Tire have only one make of snow tires for studs, because tire companies don't make them any more.

You car might be rated for the antique car show. Is it older than you.

Baseman posted:
Leonora posted:
Baseman posted:
Leonora posted:

Serious question:  guys, there was a thread here yesterday about Mahdia, what happened to it? I was at a Greek wedding.

That banna really into the Baigan thingy!  It exposed some [shameful] sick inner cravings of the mentally unstable!  As the saying goes, once you went Black, you can't go back!

I was in Queens and shared it with a few persons before it was deleted, including two women.  They had their Oh My Grandma moment!! 

 

 

Did you show it to the Congresswoman who is closely following the case of the angry spurned lover who drove across 3 states to put an envelope in a woman's mailbox?

Tola posted:
cain posted:

I never took off my snows..I did a bit of work on the car so it was hardly driven. Other vehicles here I can use if needed.

Snow tires [not all-season] are mandatory in some provinces. Studs are discouraged, due to the damage it does to the road.

The police here photograph tires in an accident and mixing tires are not allowed.

Both Costco and Canadian Tire have only one make of snow tires for studs, because tire companies don't make them any more.

You car might be rated for the antique car show. Is it older than you.

Snow Tires work very well especially at temperatures below 7 degrees Celsius. Don’t leave home without them.

Snow tiers are like flu shots, some take them and some don’t. 

Tola is correct about it being mandatory in some Provinces. I think it is mandatory in Quebec, I could be wrong on this. 

yuji22 posted:
Tola posted:
cain posted:

I never took off my snows..I did a bit of work on the car so it was hardly driven. Other vehicles here I can use if needed.

Snow tires [not all-season] are mandatory in some provinces. Studs are discouraged, due to the damage it does to the road.

The police here photograph tires in an accident and mixing tires are not allowed.

Both Costco and Canadian Tire have only one make of snow tires for studs, because tire companies don't make them any more.

You car might be rated for the antique car show. Is it older than you.

Snow Tires work very well especially at temperatures below 7 degrees Celsius. Don’t leave home without them.

Snow tiers are like flu shots, some take them and some don’t. 

Tola is correct about it being mandatory in some Provinces. I think it is mandatory in Quebec, I could be wrong on this. 

I don't use snow tires but both of my vehicles are 4matic and when it  snows I don't drive I wait until the roads are cleared before I venture outside.

yuji22 posted:
Tola posted:
cain posted:

I never took off my snows..I did a bit of work on the car so it was hardly driven. Other vehicles here I can use if needed.

Snow tires [not all-season] are mandatory in some provinces. Studs are discouraged, due to the damage it does to the road.

The police here photograph tires in an accident and mixing tires are not allowed.

Both Costco and Canadian Tire have only one make of snow tires for studs, because tire companies don't make them any more.

You car might be rated for the antique car show. Is it older than you.

Snow Tires work very well especially at temperatures below 7 degrees Celsius. Don’t leave home without them.

Snow tiers are like flu shots, some take them and some don’t. 

Tola is correct about it being mandatory in some Provinces. I think it is mandatory in Quebec, I could be wrong on this. 

How is the Spyder working?  Think you had posted abt it here some time ago.

Gilbakka posted:
Leonora posted:
Django posted:
That was also long, I have contributed a lot on that thread.

I used to think you and Gil were family and that he was sharing the answers with you because you always answered all the questions.  

That's when I discovered that Django was a good researcher. He is even better now.

Bhai, researching is time well spent, learned lot of things from politics, religion, science, history, Civilizations, etc.From the day we purchased our first HP computer in 1997 and had AOL dial up internet service,my curiosity expanded.Thanks to technological advances from then,lots of information out there, old books, research, etc.

Recently after reaching a dead end tracing some info on my ancestors, decided to give it another shot,lo and behold the info was found,they belong to a lost Intelligent and Progressive Aboriginal tribe of India.

They were there before the Invasions of India, one Sir H.Elliot  from the "Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain & Ireland Vol 21" said "Common traditions assigns them the possession the whole land from Ghorukpur to Bundelkund and Saugor.Many old forts and embankments are ascribed to them.During the time of his writings there 250,000 in the North West Provinces of India.The District they came from there were 53,060.

That was one of my greatest research, time well spent to put the pieces together.May be someday i will be going to the area of their existence.

Alena, I think you meant snow tires. The snow tires worked excellent, all three of our   Vehicles now have them. My son will be behind the wheels next year so that will make it four sets.

Driving with snow tires make winter driving a lot easier now. I will never drive without them again. I drove to Upstate NY last winter during a severe winter storm and passed many many cars stuck on the interstate while I had zero problems.

Snow tires are the best investment for safety and handling during the winter months. 

yuji22 posted:

Alena, I think you meant snow tires. The snow tires worked excellent, all three of our   Vehicles now have them. My son will be behind the wheels next year so that will make it four sets.

Driving with snow tires make winter driving a lot easier now. I will never drive without them again. I drove to Upstate NY last winter during a severe winter storm and passed many many cars stuck on the interstate while I had zero problems.

Snow tires are the best investment for safety and handling during the winter months. 

I agree, snow tires are much better for driving in snow than summer tires!

yuji22 posted:
caribny posted:
yuji22 posted:

Does anyone know the origin of Cook up or All in One as it is called in Berbice ? 

Cook up rice evolved from the one pot dishes that are prevalent throughout all of the cultures that evolved out of plantation societies in the Americas.  It is related to the Joloff rice of West Africa and some also attribute influences from Spain.  Cooking with coconut milk was brought to the Americas by the Africans though these cooking styles are also prevalent in Asia.  I guess wherever coconut trees exist.

Thank you Carib. My children were asking and I wanted an honest answer. I never prepare it without coconut milk, that is a must have ingredient.

I will let them know tonight. 

In situations where coconut milk isn't readily available or for those with cholesterol problems, regular milk can be used. I prefer to use coconut milk powder.

yuji22 posted:

Alena, I think you meant snow tires. The snow tires worked excellent, all three of our   Vehicles now have them. My son will be behind the wheels next year so that will make it four sets.

Driving with snow tires make winter driving a lot easier now. I will never drive without them again. I drove to Upstate NY last winter during a severe winter storm and passed many many cars stuck on the interstate while I had zero problems.

Snow tires are the best investment for safety and handling during the winter months. 

Don't get me wrong, If you have to drive often even in Winter I would recommend snow tires, the rubber on the snow tires are softer and has bigger grip they hold better on icy roads and paddle through snow.

Drugb posted:
 

Don't blame me, see the link I provided, no mention of africa is made. I guess you know more than the folks at London Global university.

Other people educated you and you were too dumb and stubborn to listen.  If you dont know something then say nothing.

Drugb posted:
 

Never made such a scream, just questioned how rice became blackman food when it originated in China. But you will note that even the sakiwinki bird man acknowledged that cookup is a dish found across all cultures. 

And how did it become core to Indian diet when it originated in China.  In fact the African rice is a different species so had nothing to do with Chinese rice.

As to cook up rice.  The only other Caribbean people who I have met with a dish with that name are those from St Kitts.  However similar dishes can be found in places where Transatlantic slavery existed.  Some Africans had the joloff rice idea and concocted dishes using left over food cooked into rice.  Feijoada of Brazil is similar as are various Creole/Cajun dishes of Louisiana.

You didn't know anything about this until you came to Guyana so quit your nonsense.

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

Don't blame me, see the link I provided, no mention of africa is made. I guess you know more than the folks at London Global university.

Other people educated you and you were too dumb and stubborn to listen.  If you dont know something then say nothing.

Banna, Drug man is not interested in any discussion or facts. He only purpose hay is to denigrate black man and paint dem as savages with no culture, class or humanity. We are subhuman according to he. He memorized all the KKK talking points.

He wuk fuh a white master, guh home to a white master and eat he baloney sandwich wid mayo thankfully.

Yuh notice de odda one Skeldon Man ain't had nothing to seh about Guyanese food? Yet he know about hunting squirrel and odda road kill dat white trash duz eat! Dat is what he come to.

Dem bais lock step wid white amerika, tink dey white. De most "radical" racists are the converts like dese 2. Suh ignore dem.

Iguana posted:
 

Banna, Drug man is not interested in any discussion or facts. He only purpose hay is to denigrate black man and paint dem as savages with no culture, class or humanity. We are subhuman according to he. He memorized all the KKK talking points.

He wuk fuh a white master, guh home to a white master and eat he baloney sandwich wid mayo thankfully.

Yuh notice de odda one Skeldon Man ain't had nothing to seh about Guyanese food? Yet he know about hunting squirrel and odda road kill dat white trash duz eat! Dat is what he come to.

Dem bais lock step wid white amerika, tink dey white. De most "radical" racists are the converts like dese 2. Suh ignore dem.

Skeldon grew up on Ganges on the Corentyne so doesn't know Guyana.

Poor druggie is so ashamed that he is a dark skinned Indian that he tries to validate himself by pretending that he is superior to every black person.  This personality gets furiously angry every time reports of a successful Afro Guyanese person are made. I will never forget how angry he got when an Afro Guyanese female was successful with Guyanese students at that international tech event in DC.

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

Never made such a scream, just questioned how rice became blackman food when it originated in China. But you will note that even the sakiwinki bird man acknowledged that cookup is a dish found across all cultures. 

And how did it become core to Indian diet when it originated in China.  In fact the African rice is a different species so had nothing to do with Chinese rice.

As to cook up rice.  The only other Caribbean people who I have met with a dish with that name are those from St Kitts.  However similar dishes can be found in places where Transatlantic slavery existed.  Some Africans had the joloff rice idea and concocted dishes using left over food cooked into rice.  Feijoada of Brazil is similar as are various Creole/Cajun dishes of Louisiana.

You didn't know anything about this until you came to Guyana so quit your nonsense.

In fact the rice in Guyana is the variety from China, has nothing to do with "blackman" as you put it. 

https://www.thoughtco.com/orig...rice-in-china-170639

Druggie is only interested in the truth. So far it's only you granger brownosers who are screaming that rice came from africa. Type in the origin of rice and you will consistently see that China is mentioned.

The scholars agree that China is the origin.

Earliest Evidence

The oldest evidence of rice consumption identified to date is four grains of rice recovered from the Yuchanyan Cave, a rock shelter in Dao County, Hunan Province in China. Some scholars associated with the site have argued that these grains seem to represent very early forms of domestication, having characteristics of both japonicaand sativa. Culturally, the Yuchanyan site is associated with the Upper Paleolithic/incipient Jomon, dated between 12,000 and 16,000 years ago

In fact Africa rice came much later:

Rice in Africa

A third domestication/hybridization appears to have happened during the African Iron Age in the Niger delta region of west Africa, by which Oryza sativa was crossed with O. barthii to produce O. glaberrima. The earliest ceramic impressions of rice grains date from between 1800 to 800 BCE in the side of Ganjigana, in northeast Nigeria. documented domesticated O. glaberrima has first been identified at Jenne-Jeno in Mali, dated between 300 BCE and 200 BCE. French plant geneticist Philippe Cubry and colleagues suggest that the domestication process may have been begun about 3,200 years ago when the Sahara was expanding and making the wild form of rice harder to find.

 

 

Drugb posted:
 

In fact the rice in Guyana is the variety from China, has nothing to do with "blackman" as you put it. 

https://www.thoughtco.com/orig...rice-in-china-170639

 

And what does this have to do with the fact that Africans grew rice in West Africa and were brought over to the Americas to grow rice?

 

Its also truly sad when you quote something that UNDERMINES your argument.  YOUR article confirms that rice was being grown in Africa 3,200 years ago.  The first slaves into Guyana arrived 400 years ago.

Druggie Africans had 2,800 years of rice cultivation BEFORE they arrived in Guyana so yes you CONFIRM that cook up rice is BLACK MAN FOOD.  the FIRST cultivators of rice in Guyana were BLACKS!

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

In fact the rice in Guyana is the variety from China, has nothing to do with "blackman" as you put it. 

https://www.thoughtco.com/orig...rice-in-china-170639

 

And what does this have to do with the fact that Africans grew rice in West Africa and were brought over to the Americas to grow rice?

What does Carolina have to do with Guyana's cookup which you claim is "blackman" food, even though the main ingredient rice, originated in China. 

Drugb posted:

In fact Africa rice came much later:

Rice in Africa

A third domestication/hybridization appears to have happened during the African Iron Age in the Niger delta region of west Africa, by which Oryza sativa was crossed with O. barthii to produce O. glaberrima. The earliest ceramic impressions of rice grains date from between 1800 to 800 BCE in the side of Ganjigana, in northeast Nigeria. documented domesticated O. glaberrima has first been identified at Jenne-Jeno in Mali, dated between 300 BCE and 200 BCE. French plant geneticist Philippe Cubry and colleagues suggest that the domestication process may have been begun about 3,200 years ago when the Sahara was expanding and making the wild form of rice harder to find.

 

 

Daily you display your stupidity.  So lost in your racist hatred of blacks that you confuse yourself.

The topic was whether cook up rice was "black man food".  You in fact proved that Africans were growing rice LONG before they arrived in the Americas so were perfectly capable of creating cook up rice.

Now run along and scream that "Irish Potato" doesn't exist and the Irish know nothing of it.  This because the original potatoes came from  Peru and were brought to Europe by the Spanish.   Yes no French Fries either!

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

In fact Africa rice came much later:

Rice in Africa

A third domestication/hybridization appears to have happened during the African Iron Age in the Niger delta region of west Africa, by which Oryza sativa was crossed with O. barthii to produce O. glaberrima. The earliest ceramic impressions of rice grains date from between 1800 to 800 BCE in the side of Ganjigana, in northeast Nigeria. documented domesticated O. glaberrima has first been identified at Jenne-Jeno in Mali, dated between 300 BCE and 200 BCE. French plant geneticist Philippe Cubry and colleagues suggest that the domestication process may have been begun about 3,200 years ago when the Sahara was expanding and making the wild form of rice harder to find.

 

 

Daily you display your stupidity.  So lost in your racist hatred of blacks that you confuse yourself.

The topic was whether cook up rice was "black man food".  You in fact proved that Africans were growing rice LONG before they arrived in the Americas so were perfectly capable of creating cook up rice.

Now run along and scream that "Irish Potato" doesn't exist and the Irish know nothing of it.  This because the original potatoes came from  Peru and were brought to Europe by the Spanish.   Yes no French Fries either!

Cookup rice is not a creation but an accident of necessity. All left overs from the plantation owners thrown into a pot. Go learn your history and find out the origins of souse, black puddings etc, all the main ingredients thrown out by the white masters. Blood, innards, cow foot, cow ears, cow tongue etc. 

Drugb posted:
D2 posted:
Drugb posted:
Don't blame me, see the link I provided, no mention of africa is made. I guess you know more than the folks at London Global university.

I think you should expand your reading and not settle for what you think confirms your prejudices.

So the folks at London Global were liars or you are just smarter?

They just were not complete for whatever reason. I have not asserted any dispositions to them. That is your take.  I sent you one by the NIH so using your reasoning should I say you believe you are smarter than the scientists at the institute? You are a knuckle headed man. You have been that way all along so it has to be true about old dogs and new tricks. I however think it is will full ignorance. You cannot accept a mistake so you insist on erasing an entire history of a people and sell it as fact. 

D2 posted:
Drugb posted:
D2 posted:
Drugb posted:
Don't blame me, see the link I provided, no mention of africa is made. I guess you know more than the folks at London Global university.

I think you should expand your reading and not settle for what you think confirms your prejudices.

So the folks at London Global were liars or you are just smarter?

They just were not complete for whatever reason. I have not asserted any dispositions to them. That is your take.  I sent you one by the NIH so using your reasoning should I say you believe you are smarter than the scientists at the institute? You are a knuckle headed man. You have been that way all along so it has to be true about old dogs and new tricks. I however think it is will full ignorance. You cannot accept a mistake so you insist on erasing an entire history of a people and sell it as fact. 

Or maybe you and NIH along with the granger brown nosers are mistaken? The prevailing consensus among scientists is that rice cultivation began in China, not Africa as you seem to want to believe despite the evidence that shows otherwise. 

 

Based on archeological evidence, rice was believed to have first been domesticated in the region of the Yangtze River valley in China. Morphological studies of rice phytoliths from the Diaotonghuan archaeological site clearly show the transition from the collection of wild rice to the cultivation of domesticated rice.
 
Drugb posted:

Or maybe you and NIH along with the granger brown nosers are mistaken? The prevailing consensus among scientists is that rice cultivation began in China, not Africa as you seem to want to believe despite the evidence that shows otherwise. 

 

Based on archeological evidence, rice was believed to have first been domesticated in the region of the Yangtze River valley in China. Morphological studies of rice phytoliths from the Diaotonghuan archaeological site clearly show the transition from the collection of wild rice to the cultivation of domesticated rice.
 

I do no know how granger got into this but it illustrates what depths one will descend to in order to prevaricate, obfuscate and perform all sorts of mental gymnastics to deny the obvious because it contradicts his prejudices. 

No one makes a claim as to where rice was first cultivated. One asserts that rice, a rather particular kind of rice, was native to Africa for over 3000 years. The idea of mass cultivation across much of Africa means domestication of the specie was pervasive. 

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

In fact Africa rice came much later:

Rice in Africa

A third domestication/hybridization appears to have happened during the African Iron Age in the Niger delta region of west Africa, by which Oryza sativa was crossed with O. barthii to produce O. glaberrima. The earliest ceramic impressions of rice grains date from between 1800 to 800 BCE in the side of Ganjigana, in northeast Nigeria. documented domesticated O. glaberrima has first been identified at Jenne-Jeno in Mali, dated between 300 BCE and 200 BCE. French plant geneticist Philippe Cubry and colleagues suggest that the domestication process may have been begun about 3,200 years ago when the Sahara was expanding and making the wild form of rice harder to find.

 

 

Daily you display your stupidity.  So lost in your racist hatred of blacks that you confuse yourself.

The topic was whether cook up rice was "black man food".  You in fact proved that Africans were growing rice LONG before they arrived in the Americas so were perfectly capable of creating cook up rice.

Now run along and scream that "Irish Potato" doesn't exist and the Irish know nothing of it.  This because the original potatoes came from  Peru and were brought to Europe by the Spanish.   Yes no French Fries either!

Cookup rice is not a creation but an accident of necessity. All left overs from the plantation owners thrown into a pot. Go learn your history and find out the origins of souse, black puddings etc, all the main ingredients thrown out by the white masters. Blood, innards, cow foot, cow ears, cow tongue etc. 

You cannot cook by accident. Cooking is a creative art or people would not eat it. Simply throwing things together and hope they turn out right is the kind of nonsense that can only come from you. All cooks start with a base and build up on it. Cookup has a base and some standard or ingredients.It took creativity to make what was not considered prime cuts into palatable cuisine. 

Black pudding is a sausage and may be of European. Cow tongue and feet are also heavily used in European cuisine. Amerindians never had cows or pigs and their toma pot which is the progenitor of Pepper pot was not made with cows feet or pigs ears etc. That has to be a utilization that came from coastlanders. Obviously Indians do not care for cows and Muslims pigs so the insight has to be African cooks. 

D2 posted:
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

In fact Africa rice came much later:

Rice in Africa

A third domestication/hybridization appears to have happened during the African Iron Age in the Niger delta region of west Africa, by which Oryza sativa was crossed with O. barthii to produce O. glaberrima. The earliest ceramic impressions of rice grains date from between 1800 to 800 BCE in the side of Ganjigana, in northeast Nigeria. documented domesticated O. glaberrima has first been identified at Jenne-Jeno in Mali, dated between 300 BCE and 200 BCE. French plant geneticist Philippe Cubry and colleagues suggest that the domestication process may have been begun about 3,200 years ago when the Sahara was expanding and making the wild form of rice harder to find.

 

 

Daily you display your stupidity.  So lost in your racist hatred of blacks that you confuse yourself.

The topic was whether cook up rice was "black man food".  You in fact proved that Africans were growing rice LONG before they arrived in the Americas so were perfectly capable of creating cook up rice.

Now run along and scream that "Irish Potato" doesn't exist and the Irish know nothing of it.  This because the original potatoes came from  Peru and were brought to Europe by the Spanish.   Yes no French Fries either!

Cookup rice is not a creation but an accident of necessity. All left overs from the plantation owners thrown into a pot. Go learn your history and find out the origins of souse, black puddings etc, all the main ingredients thrown out by the white masters. Blood, innards, cow foot, cow ears, cow tongue etc. 

You cannot cook by accident. Cooking is a creative art or people would not eat it. Simply throwing things together and hope they turn out right is the kind of nonsense that can only come from you. All cooks start with a base and build up on it. Cookup has a base and some standard or ingredients.It took creativity to make what was not considered prime cuts into palatable cuisine. 

Black pudding is a sausage and may be of European. Cow tongue and feet are also heavily used in European cuisine. Amerindians never had cows or pigs and their toma pot which is the progenitor of Pepper pot was not made with cows feet or pigs ears etc. That has to be a utilization that came from coastlanders. Obviously Indians do not care for cows and Muslims pigs so the insight has to be African cooks. 

Foolish man.

 

As it turns out, some of the tastiest foods were born out of a similarly magical confluence of laziness, resourcefulness, and luck—or simply because someone, somewhere, f**ked something up. From chocolate chip cookies to beer, humans throughout history have often created foods and beverages far more delicious than anything they set out to make.

So, next time you’re cooking and accidentally screw up the recipe, embrace the failure and see where it takes you. If you read through these examples of accidental tastiness, you’ll see that history is on your side

D2 posted:
 
 

I do no know how granger got into this but it illustrates what depths one will descend to in order to prevaricate, obfuscate and perform all sorts of mental gymnastics to deny the obvious because it contradicts his prejudices. 

No one makes a claim as to where rice was first cultivated. One asserts that rice, a rather particular kind of rice, was native to Africa for over 3000 years. The idea of mass cultivation across much of Africa means domestication of the specie was pervasive. 

Lets chalk this up to another schooling that you got for free from me, pro bono.  You ran along with the other on the erroneous assumption that every single crop originated from blacks and africa. Now take your schooling and thank druggie for another successful class. 

D2 posted:
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

In fact Africa rice came much later:

Rice in Africa

A third domestication/hybridization appears to have happened during the African Iron Age in the Niger delta region of west Africa, by which Oryza sativa was crossed with O. barthii to produce O. glaberrima. The earliest ceramic impressions of rice grains date from between 1800 to 800 BCE in the side of Ganjigana, in northeast Nigeria. documented domesticated O. glaberrima has first been identified at Jenne-Jeno in Mali, dated between 300 BCE and 200 BCE. French plant geneticist Philippe Cubry and colleagues suggest that the domestication process may have been begun about 3,200 years ago when the Sahara was expanding and making the wild form of rice harder to find.

 

 

Daily you display your stupidity.  So lost in your racist hatred of blacks that you confuse yourself.

The topic was whether cook up rice was "black man food".  You in fact proved that Africans were growing rice LONG before they arrived in the Americas so were perfectly capable of creating cook up rice.

Now run along and scream that "Irish Potato" doesn't exist and the Irish know nothing of it.  This because the original potatoes came from  Peru and were brought to Europe by the Spanish.   Yes no French Fries either!

Cookup rice is not a creation but an accident of necessity. All left overs from the plantation owners thrown into a pot. Go learn your history and find out the origins of souse, black puddings etc, all the main ingredients thrown out by the white masters. Blood, innards, cow foot, cow ears, cow tongue etc. 

You cannot cook by accident. Cooking is a creative art or people would not eat it. Simply throwing things together and hope they turn out right is the kind of nonsense that can only come from you. All cooks start with a base and build up on it. Cookup has a base and some standard or ingredients.It took creativity to make what was not considered prime cuts into palatable cuisine. 

Black pudding is a sausage and may be of European. Cow tongue and feet are also heavily used in European cuisine. Amerindians never had cows or pigs and their toma pot which is the progenitor of Pepper pot was not made with cows feet or pigs ears etc. That has to be a utilization that came from coastlanders. Obviously Indians do not care for cows and Muslims pigs so the insight has to be African cooks. 

Na true, when I was a little boy ,we had a butter tin and one padna would bring rice and salt, another onion,oil pepper, another a piece of salted fish that could have been Huri or cod fish and we would pick some spinish. We would then go into the bush, OH someone had to bring old newspapers, matches, we get two big bricks to place the butter tin, add water and all the ingredients ,let it boil.As the story says, when it bun ,it done. It was the best cook up or some would say ,All In One.

Drugb posted:
 
Foolish man.

 

As it turns out, some of the tastiest foods were born out of a similarly magical confluence of laziness, resourcefulness, and luck—or simply because someone, somewhere, f**ked something up. From chocolate chip cookies to beer, humans throughout history have often created foods and beverages far more delicious than anything they set out to make.

So, next time you’re cooking and accidentally screw up the recipe, embrace the failure and see where it takes you. If you read through these examples of accidental tastiness, you’ll see that history is on your side

 

Plagiarizing, doesn't seem like your writings, do justice and post the source.

 

https://firstwefeast.com/eat/2...ds-invented-mistake/

"As it turns out, some of the tastiest foods were born out of a similarly magical confluence of laziness, resourcefulness, and luck—or simply because someone, somewhere, f**ked something up. From chocolate chip cookies to beer, humans throughout history have often created foods and beverages far more delicious than anything they set out to make.

So, next time you’re cooking and accidentally screw up the recipe, embrace the failure and see where it takes you. If you read through these examples of accidental tastiness, you’ll see that history is on your side."

Tola posted:

Hea Vish Mahabir,  whea you rass dea. You started a thread and leave us with nine pages of discussion. Bhai, like you get enough information to go to Guyana.  

He gone to write his exams, he got enough material for his papers.

Drugb posted:
D2 posted:
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

In fact Africa rice came much later:

Rice in Africa

A third domestication/hybridization appears to have happened during the African Iron Age in the Niger delta region of west Africa, by which Oryza sativa was crossed with O. barthii to produce O. glaberrima. The earliest ceramic impressions of rice grains date from between 1800 to 800 BCE in the side of Ganjigana, in northeast Nigeria. documented domesticated O. glaberrima has first been identified at Jenne-Jeno in Mali, dated between 300 BCE and 200 BCE. French plant geneticist Philippe Cubry and colleagues suggest that the domestication process may have been begun about 3,200 years ago when the Sahara was expanding and making the wild form of rice harder to find.

 

 

Daily you display your stupidity.  So lost in your racist hatred of blacks that you confuse yourself.

The topic was whether cook up rice was "black man food".  You in fact proved that Africans were growing rice LONG before they arrived in the Americas so were perfectly capable of creating cook up rice.

Now run along and scream that "Irish Potato" doesn't exist and the Irish know nothing of it.  This because the original potatoes came from  Peru and were brought to Europe by the Spanish.   Yes no French Fries either!

Cookup rice is not a creation but an accident of necessity. All left overs from the plantation owners thrown into a pot. Go learn your history and find out the origins of souse, black puddings etc, all the main ingredients thrown out by the white masters. Blood, innards, cow foot, cow ears, cow tongue etc. 

You cannot cook by accident. Cooking is a creative art or people would not eat it. Simply throwing things together and hope they turn out right is the kind of nonsense that can only come from you. All cooks start with a base and build up on it. Cookup has a base and some standard or ingredients.It took creativity to make what was not considered prime cuts into palatable cuisine. 

Black pudding is a sausage and may be of European. Cow tongue and feet are also heavily used in European cuisine. Amerindians never had cows or pigs and their toma pot which is the progenitor of Pepper pot was not made with cows feet or pigs ears etc. That has to be a utilization that came from coastlanders. Obviously Indians do not care for cows and Muslims pigs so the insight has to be African cooks. 

Foolish man.

 

As it turns out, some of the tastiest foods were born out of a similarly magical confluence of laziness, resourcefulness, and luck—or simply because someone, somewhere, f**ked something up. From chocolate chip cookies to beer, humans throughout history have often created foods and beverages far more delicious than anything they set out to make.

So, next time you’re cooking and accidentally screw up the recipe, embrace the failure and see where it takes you. If you read through these examples of accidental tastiness, you’ll see that history is on your side

There is a difference between what you are affirming and what are lucky accidents as to yogurt, cheeze or fermented drinks etc. But once these accidents were discovered it took creativity to produce the vast diversity of these products. Beer takes a particular mix of ingredients over a set time to produce. Even gingerbeer needs at least three days and cannot get started without a live culture of yeasts and appropriate amounts of sugar. 

Cookup come in many varieties as there are cooks in Guyana. We are only now into the standardization process as professional cooks organize the structure and production of foods for commercial outlets. 

I do not make mistakes these days since any cook will tell up that the desired product is often a reproduction according to a tradition. I am not a chef so I leave the experimentation to create new dishes  to them  

 

kp posted:
D2 posted:
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

In fact Africa rice came much later:

Rice in Africa

A third domestication/hybridization appears to have happened during the African Iron Age in the Niger delta region of west Africa, by which Oryza sativa was crossed with O. barthii to produce O. glaberrima. The earliest ceramic impressions of rice grains date from between 1800 to 800 BCE in the side of Ganjigana, in northeast Nigeria. documented domesticated O. glaberrima has first been identified at Jenne-Jeno in Mali, dated between 300 BCE and 200 BCE. French plant geneticist Philippe Cubry and colleagues suggest that the domestication process may have been begun about 3,200 years ago when the Sahara was expanding and making the wild form of rice harder to find.

 

 

Daily you display your stupidity.  So lost in your racist hatred of blacks that you confuse yourself.

The topic was whether cook up rice was "black man food".  You in fact proved that Africans were growing rice LONG before they arrived in the Americas so were perfectly capable of creating cook up rice.

Now run along and scream that "Irish Potato" doesn't exist and the Irish know nothing of it.  This because the original potatoes came from  Peru and were brought to Europe by the Spanish.   Yes no French Fries either!

Cookup rice is not a creation but an accident of necessity. All left overs from the plantation owners thrown into a pot. Go learn your history and find out the origins of souse, black puddings etc, all the main ingredients thrown out by the white masters. Blood, innards, cow foot, cow ears, cow tongue etc. 

You cannot cook by accident. Cooking is a creative art or people would not eat it. Simply throwing things together and hope they turn out right is the kind of nonsense that can only come from you. All cooks start with a base and build up on it. Cookup has a base and some standard or ingredients.It took creativity to make what was not considered prime cuts into palatable cuisine. 

Black pudding is a sausage and may be of European. Cow tongue and feet are also heavily used in European cuisine. Amerindians never had cows or pigs and their toma pot which is the progenitor of Pepper pot was not made with cows feet or pigs ears etc. That has to be a utilization that came from coastlanders. Obviously Indians do not care for cows and Muslims pigs so the insight has to be African cooks. 

Na true, when I was a little boy ,we had a butter tin and one padna would bring rice and salt, another onion,oil pepper, another a piece of salted fish that could have been Huri or cod fish and we would pick some spinish. We would then go into the bush, OH someone had to bring old newspapers, matches, we get two big bricks to place the butter tin, add water and all the ingredients ,let it boil.As the story says, when it bun ,it done. It was the best cook up or some would say ,All In One.

True, when it bun it dun and who eat pan de tin, it gun rain when dem married. 

D2 posted:
Drugb posted:
D2 posted:
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

In fact Africa rice came much later:

Rice in Africa

A third domestication/hybridization appears to have happened during the African Iron Age in the Niger delta region of west Africa, by which Oryza sativa was crossed with O. barthii to produce O. glaberrima. The earliest ceramic impressions of rice grains date from between 1800 to 800 BCE in the side of Ganjigana, in northeast Nigeria. documented domesticated O. glaberrima has first been identified at Jenne-Jeno in Mali, dated between 300 BCE and 200 BCE. French plant geneticist Philippe Cubry and colleagues suggest that the domestication process may have been begun about 3,200 years ago when the Sahara was expanding and making the wild form of rice harder to find.

 

 

Daily you display your stupidity.  So lost in your racist hatred of blacks that you confuse yourself.

The topic was whether cook up rice was "black man food".  You in fact proved that Africans were growing rice LONG before they arrived in the Americas so were perfectly capable of creating cook up rice.

Now run along and scream that "Irish Potato" doesn't exist and the Irish know nothing of it.  This because the original potatoes came from  Peru and were brought to Europe by the Spanish.   Yes no French Fries either!

Cookup rice is not a creation but an accident of necessity. All left overs from the plantation owners thrown into a pot. Go learn your history and find out the origins of souse, black puddings etc, all the main ingredients thrown out by the white masters. Blood, innards, cow foot, cow ears, cow tongue etc. 

You cannot cook by accident. Cooking is a creative art or people would not eat it. Simply throwing things together and hope they turn out right is the kind of nonsense that can only come from you. All cooks start with a base and build up on it. Cookup has a base and some standard or ingredients.It took creativity to make what was not considered prime cuts into palatable cuisine. 

Black pudding is a sausage and may be of European. Cow tongue and feet are also heavily used in European cuisine. Amerindians never had cows or pigs and their toma pot which is the progenitor of Pepper pot was not made with cows feet or pigs ears etc. That has to be a utilization that came from coastlanders. Obviously Indians do not care for cows and Muslims pigs so the insight has to be African cooks. 

Foolish man.

 

As it turns out, some of the tastiest foods were born out of a similarly magical confluence of laziness, resourcefulness, and luck—or simply because someone, somewhere, f**ked something up. From chocolate chip cookies to beer, humans throughout history have often created foods and beverages far more delicious than anything they set out to make.

So, next time you’re cooking and accidentally screw up the recipe, embrace the failure and see where it takes you. If you read through these examples of accidental tastiness, you’ll see that history is on your side

There is a difference between what you are affirming and what are lucky accidents as to yogurt, cheeze or fermented drinks etc. But once these accidents were discovered it took creativity to produce the vast diversity of these products. Beer takes a particular mix of ingredients over a set time to produce. Even gingerbeer needs at least three days and cannot get started without a live culture of yeasts and appropriate amounts of sugar. 

Cookup come in many varieties as there are cooks in Guyana. We are only now into the standardization process as professional cooks organize the structure and production of foods for commercial outlets. 

I do not make mistakes these days since any cook will tell up that the desired product is often a reproduction according to a tradition. I am not a chef so I leave the experimentation to create new dishes  to them  

 

Those are not his words, trying to be impressive.

Check here   https://firstwefeast.com/eat/2...ds-invented-mistake/

kp posted:
 

You cannot cook by accident. Cooking is a creative art or people would not eat it. Simply throwing things together and hope they turn out right is the kind of nonsense that can only come from you. All cooks start with a base and build up on it. Cookup has a base and some standard or ingredients.It took creativity to make what was not considered prime cuts into palatable cuisine. 

Black pudding is a sausage and may be of European. Cow tongue and feet are also heavily used in European cuisine. Amerindians never had cows or pigs and their toma pot which is the progenitor of Pepper pot was not made with cows feet or pigs ears etc. That has to be a utilization that came from coastlanders. Obviously Indians do not care for cows and Muslims pigs so the insight has to be African cooks. 

Na true, when I was a little boy ,we had a butter tin and one padna would bring rice and salt, another onion,oil pepper, another a piece of salted fish that could have been Huri or cod fish and we would pick some spinish. We would then go into the bush, OH someone had to bring old newspapers, matches, we get two big bricks to place the butter tin, add water and all the ingredients ,let it boil.As the story says, when it bun ,it done. It was the best cook up or some would say ,All In One.

 
The point is you had an idea as to a process. You procured rice, a fat, a protein and spices and had an idea that it might turn out to something edible. You did not chose corn as your base.
kp posted:
Tola posted:

Hea Vish Mahabir,  whea you rass dea. You started a thread and leave us with nine pages of discussion. Bhai, like you get enough information to go to Guyana.  

He gone to write his exams, he got enough material for his papers.

I did not realize he was studying Clinical Psychology!

Drugb posted:
D2 posted:
 
 

I do no know how granger got into this but it illustrates what depths one will descend to in order to prevaricate, obfuscate and perform all sorts of mental gymnastics to deny the obvious because it contradicts his prejudices. 

No one makes a claim as to where rice was first cultivated. One asserts that rice, a rather particular kind of rice, was native to Africa for over 3000 years. The idea of mass cultivation across much of Africa means domestication of the specie was pervasive. 

Lets chalk this up to another schooling that you got for free from me, pro bono.  You ran along with the other on the erroneous assumption that every single crop originated from blacks and africa. Now take your schooling and thank druggie for another successful class. 

Yea, like the idiot trump claiming he is the greatest in all things. Cant help your self delusion. 

Drugb posted:
 

Cookup rice is not a creation but an accident of necessity. All left overs from the plantation owners thrown into a pot. Go learn your history and find out the origins of souse, black puddings etc, all the main ingredients thrown out by the white masters. Blood, innards, cow foot, cow ears, cow tongue etc. 

All food eaten by poor people is an accident of necessity.  The foods eaten by poor Indo Guyanese is vastly different from that eaten by the wealthy class of India.

Drugb posted:
 

You ran along with the other on the erroneous assumption that every single crop originated from blacks and africa. Now take your schooling and thank druggie for another successful class. 

Your original screams were that Guyanese blacks didn't know about rice and even now wail that all they ate was fufu.

The point that your ignorant head refuses to process is that blacks in the Americas were very familiar with rice and did NOT need either Indians or Chinese to teach them about this.

Your ignorant head also lacks the ability to comprehend that Africa rice was a different species from Asian rice so did NOT come from Asia.  So any discussion about Asian rice and Africans is irrelevant.

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

Cookup rice is not a creation but an accident of necessity. All left overs from the plantation owners thrown into a pot. Go learn your history and find out the origins of souse, black puddings etc, all the main ingredients thrown out by the white masters. Blood, innards, cow foot, cow ears, cow tongue etc. 

All food eaten by poor people is an accident of necessity.  The foods eaten by poor Indo Guyanese is vastly different from that eaten by the wealthy class of India.

Agreed, so cut out the crap that cookup is blackman food. 

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

You ran along with the other on the erroneous assumption that every single crop originated from blacks and africa. Now take your schooling and thank druggie for another successful class. 

Your original screams were that Guyanese blacks didn't know about rice and even now wail that all they ate was fufu.

The point that your ignorant head refuses to process is that blacks in the Americas were very familiar with rice and did NOT need either Indians or Chinese to teach them about this.

Your ignorant head also lacks the ability to comprehend that Africa rice was a different species from Asian rice so did NOT come from Asia.  So any discussion about Asian rice and Africans is irrelevant.

I never screamed any such thing. In fact I merely questioned how cookup can be labelled as blackman food by you when rice, a traditionally non black grain was a major part of the dish. 

caribny posted:

In fact rum was created by accident when some molasses fell out of a vat and began to ferment.  This happening in Barbados.  They then realized that it could be made into an alcoholic drink.

Now you qualify to be my TA, go school d2, the man claimed that no food is by accident. 

Drugb posted:
 

All food eaten by poor people is an accident of necessity.  The foods eaten by poor Indo Guyanese is vastly different from that eaten by the wealthy class of India.

Agreed, so cut out the crap that cookup is blackman food. 

So OK roti isn't Indian food neither is curry.  In fact there is no food in Guyana which is Indian. 

Drugb posted:
 

I never screamed any such thing. In fact I merely questioned how cookup can be labelled as blackman food by you when rice, a traditionally non black grain was a major part of the dish. 

And given that wheat flour entered India from the Middle East and rice entered from China and both are critical ingredients in Indian cooking tell me what dishes are Indian?  We might even discover that curry is Thai and not Indian.

Now the rice that Africans ate WAS AFRICAN. It was NOT ASIAN. 

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

I never screamed any such thing. In fact I merely questioned how cookup can be labelled as blackman food by you when rice, a traditionally non black grain was a major part of the dish. 

And given that wheat flour entered India from the Middle East and rice entered from China and both are critical ingredients in Indian cooking tell me what dishes are Indian?  We might even discover that curry is Thai and not Indian.

Now the rice that Africans ate WAS AFRICAN. It was NOT ASIAN. 

Nagamooto will disagree with you there. It is a tamil word, Kari.   Now you change your tune about rice.  How you know that the Afro rice didn't make its way from china? Anyway, rice is nothing but a grass, found all over the world. It might have been  used in parallel in different parts of the world. Just like the wheel, it was probably discovered at different time in history by different cultures. 

kp posted:

Potato was first grown in Egypt  then moved to Europe.

You may want to compare the three sources.

The potato, from the perennial Solanum tuberosum, is the world’s fourth largest food crop, following rice, wheat, and maize. The Inca Indians in Peru were the first to cultivate potatoes around 8,000 BC to 5,000 B.C.

https://www.potatogoodness.com...o-fun-facts-history/

The potato was introduced to Egypt during the 1800's, and large scale cultivation began during the First World War, when British colonial officials encouraged its production to feed their troops. After the war, however, expansion of potato growing was hampered by the poor quality of imported seed and by farmers' inexperience with the crop.

https://www.potatopro.com/egypt/potato-statistics

 

https://www.sciencemag.org/new...ecret-history-potato

Django posted:
Baseman posted:

Oh mi mumma!!  Ayuh cut the skont out.  Now is waan stchupit Potatoe Man and his P0ke.y Horse rowe!!!!

BTW, that was story in a story book!!

Oye Bhai, this thread is about Serious Question.

But it always come back to Black and Coolie!!

Baseman posted:
Django posted:
Baseman posted:

Oh mi mumma!!  Ayuh cut the skont out.  Now is waan stchupit Potatoe Man and his P0ke.y Horse rowe!!!!

BTW, that was story in a story book!!

Oye Bhai, this thread is about Serious Question.

But it always come back to Black and Coolie!!

To some folks not, Django.

Baseman posted:
Django posted:
Baseman posted:

Oh mi mumma!!  Ayuh cut the skont out.  Now is waan stchupit Potatoe Man and his P0ke.y Horse rowe!!!!

BTW, that was story in a story book!!

Oye Bhai, this thread is about Serious Question.

But it always come back to Black and Coolie!!

HAHAHAAAAaaaaa! These rass guys arguin dem bumbaclat over who invent rice an who firs mek french fries an all sorta shit..heheheeee..an is not just one thread dem doin dis.

Base, I gonna start a thread jus for me an you over who first invented fish. 

cain posted:
Baseman posted:
Django posted:
Baseman posted:

Oh mi mumma!!  Ayuh cut the skont out.  Now is waan stchupit Potatoe Man and his P0ke.y Horse rowe!!!!

BTW, that was story in a story book!!

Oye Bhai, this thread is about Serious Question.

But it always come back to Black and Coolie!!

HAHAHAAAAaaaaa! These rass guys arguin dem bumbaclat over who invent rice an who firs mek french fries an all sorta shit..heheheeee..an is not just one thread dem doin dis.

Base, I gonna start a thread jus for me an you over who first invented fish. 

Gilly eager to jump in that fishing thread.

Mitwah posted:

Who invented the loin cloth? Indos and Afros used to wear it when they were digging canals, drains or ponds or working in the rice fields during plowing and planting seasons.

It was called langotee. 

Bai, men have been tying up them loli and balls since cave man days.  It was tuff to go running 🏃 after animals in a hunt wid yuh sausage and balls dangling and getting caught between yuh legs. 

Gilbakka posted:
cain posted:  HAHAHAAAAaaaaa! These rass guys arguin dem bumbaclat over who invent rice an who firs mek french fries an all sorta shit..heheheeee..an is not just one thread dem doin dis.

Base, I gonna start a thread jus for me an you over who first invented fish. 

Gilly eager to jump in that fishing thread.

Hehee!

cain posted:
 

Gilly eager to jump in that fishing thread.

Hehee!

It is like the ice-water argument. One person  refused to accept science and mathematics then then and the argument continued for over five years!  This goody fellow refuse to accept Africans had a rice culture and persist in denying the historical reality however much the evidence becomes available. Willful ignorance cannot be overcome with facts. This fellow comes back like a zombie, impervious of the conscious world that knows the contrary yet  chants about his wisdom when he lumbers about with his brains cascading from his skull from the beating he is getting. This argument can last for a long long time! 

Baseman posted:
Mitwah posted:

Who invented the loin cloth? Indos and Afros used to wear it when they were digging canals, drains or ponds or working in the rice fields during plowing and planting seasons.

It was called langotee. 

Bai, men have been tying up them loli and balls since cave man days.  It was tuff to go running 🏃 after animals in a hunt wid yuh sausage and balls dangling and getting caught between yuh legs. 

Men wearing langoti and working the rice fields.

Image result for langoti pictures

cain posted:

A couple quotes for this:  "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes time and annoys the pig"

"Never wrestle with a pig: you get dirty and the pig enjoys it?"

My beagles try to bang on my guitars when they want to go outside. They know I will not ignore them if they try to slam a few chords. They are astute enough to know I would not ignore them if they bang on the guitar strings. They are smart. This fellow still has a ways to go with his act to transition to being insightful.

D2 posted:
cain posted:

A couple quotes for this:  "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes time and annoys the pig"

"Never wrestle with a pig: you get dirty and the pig enjoys it?"

My beagles try to bang on my guitars when they want to go outside. They know I will not ignore them if they try to slam a few chords. They are astute enough to know I would not ignore them if they bang on the guitar strings. They are smart. This fellow still has a ways to go with his act to transition to being insightful.

Should those beagles start playing better than you, you in big trouble.

Oh and by the way seeing your concern about not enough women out here...my bait worked banna, caught me a nice hippy looking babe who is the drummer with our Friday group.

cain posted:
D2 posted:
cain posted:

A couple quotes for this:  "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes time and annoys the pig"

"Never wrestle with a pig: you get dirty and the pig enjoys it?"

My beagles try to bang on my guitars when they want to go outside. They know I will not ignore them if they try to slam a few chords. They are astute enough to know I would not ignore them if they bang on the guitar strings. They are smart. This fellow still has a ways to go with his act to transition to being insightful.

Should those beagles start playing better than you, you in big trouble.

Oh and by the way seeing your concern about not enough women out here...my bait worked banna, caught me a nice hippy looking babe who is the drummer with our Friday group.

Have a drink on me for not having to be sleeping in a cold bed this winter. I bet there are lots of sub zero nights for fierce cuddling coming up soon!

I locked those dogs out of my music room. They would sit in front of the door with big droopy ears and wide sad eyes pondering why!!!...then I let them in again!!

D2 posted:
cain posted:

Should those beagles start playing better than you, you in big trouble.

Oh and by the way seeing your concern about not enough women out here...my bait worked banna, caught me a nice hippy looking babe who is the drummer with our Friday group.

Have a drink on me for not having to be sleeping in a cold bed this winter. I bet there are lots of sub zero nights for fierce cuddling coming up soon!

I locked those dogs out of my music room. They would sit in front of the door with big droopy ears and wide sad eyes pondering why!!!...then I let them in again!!

No cold bed, for sure.

You lock poor doggies outta the music room. So you are worried about them getting better than you..hahaha

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