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I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum, punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc

My observation is that they are primarily used by Indos (I think). I notice too that some people (non-Indos) simply don’t use them. Ronan, Iguana, etc don’t seem to use any of them. Some of them are not in a dictionary, so they are not necessarily English words. So here are my questions:

Are these words part of the Afro or Indo language they brought from Africa or India?

Are they based on the original Hindi language?

Are they “creole” words that develop over the years of mixing with Afro and Indo words?

Why does it look like one set of Guyanese use them?

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VishMahabir posted:

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum, punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc

My observation is that they are primarily used by Indos (I think). I notice too that some people (non-Indos) simply don’t use them. Ronan, Iguana, etc don’t seem to use any of them. Some of them are not in a dictionary, so they are not necessarily English words. So here are my questions:

Are these words part of the Afro or Indo language they brought from Africa or India?

Are they based on the original Hindi language?

Are they “creole” words that develop over the years of mixing with Afro and Indo words?

Why does it look like one set of Guyanese use them?

Is a good patkay you want. You had claim to know what is lolie ... can someone find that post and let’s hammer it in his kakahole. 

You are fake .. who knows you probably have patacake. 

FM

Vish, I asked a question in another thread you might have missed

At what age did you migrate?

Like you, I never knew many of the words until I came on this site, it is mostly Indians who use the words such as Tawa, Belna, Luckney, Patkay and a host of others including those you mentioned because it did come from their fore parents. Some of these words could also be a bit of French, ie:  Crapaud. Many of the street names are from the Dutch.

cain
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Dave posted:
VishMahabir posted:

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum, punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc

My observation is that they are primarily used by Indos (I think). I notice too that some people (non-Indos) simply don’t use them. Ronan, Iguana, etc don’t seem to use any of them. Some of them are not in a dictionary, so they are not necessarily English words. So here are my questions:

Are these words part of the Afro or Indo language they brought from Africa or India?

Are they based on the original Hindi language?

Are they “creole” words that develop over the years of mixing with Afro and Indo words?

Why does it look like one set of Guyanese use them?

Is a good patkay you want. You had claim to know what is lolie ... can someone find that post and let’s hammer it in his kakahole. 

You are fake .. who knows you probably have patacake. 

Knucklehead...why you so pizzed at the world? And why you cussin so early in the marnin? 

Heres an FYI...if everyone has a "handle" here, then everybody "fake"...just like "Dave". Kapeeche? 

Yes, some words I do know, but not others (which i have not heard)

Drink your cool aid and read the post again...slowly...I am asking about their origin in usage.

V
cain posted:

Vish, I asked a question in another thread you might have missed

At what age did you migrate?

Like you, I never knew many of the words until I came on this site, it is mostly Indians who use the words such as Tawa, Belna, Luckney, Patkay and a host of others including those you mentioned because it did come from their fore parents. Some of these words could also be a bit of French, ie:  Crapaud. Many of the street names are from the Dutch.

Thanks!

V

 

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum [chul chul], punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc


 

Kiddo, these are common words used in East Indian communities, from childhood it's heard and the English Language meanings can be derived.

Click on link below,you will find most of the words and their meanings

https://moonsammy.wordpress.co...guyanese-dictionary/

Django
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Django posted:

 

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum [chul chul], punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc


 

Kiddo, these are common words used in East Indian communities, from childhood it's heard and the English Language meanings can be derived.

Click on link below,you will find most of the words and their meanings

https://moonsammy.wordpress.co...guyanese-dictionary/

OK. That looks like an interesting site...will look at it later.

How can you tell which is Indian based and which is not?

V
VishMahabir posted:
Django posted:

 

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum [chul chul], punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc


 

Kiddo, these are common words used in East Indian communities, from childhood it's heard and the English Language meanings can be derived.

Click on link below,you will find most of the words and their meanings

https://moonsammy.wordpress.co...guyanese-dictionary/

OK. That looks like an interesting site...will look at it later.

How can you tell which is Indian based and which is not?

Put on you Draaz and visit Django, he knows  nuff nuff thing, he gon teach you.

FM
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Dave posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Django posted:

 

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum [chul chul], punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc


 

Kiddo, these are common words used in East Indian communities, from childhood it's heard and the English Language meanings can be derived.

Click on link below,you will find most of the words and their meanings

https://moonsammy.wordpress.co...guyanese-dictionary/

OK. That looks like an interesting site...will look at it later.

How can you tell which is Indian based and which is not?

Put on you Draaz and visit Django, he knows  nuff nuff thing, he gon teach you.

FM
Dave posted:

Hang on Mr Vish, why single out Ronna / Iguana as not to use such words, when in fact they used worst .. you must be a Redux / iguana with another handle 

Dis Fish dude ah fool plenty alyu on dis board. Nah me bahiya. De man is a mole and a fraud.

FM
VishMahabir posted:
Django posted:

 

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum [chul chul], punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc


 

Kiddo, these are common words used in East Indian communities, from childhood it's heard and the English Language meanings can be derived.

Click on link below,you will find most of the words and their meanings

https://moonsammy.wordpress.co...guyanese-dictionary/

OK. That looks like an interesting site...will look at it later.

How can you tell which is Indian based and which is not?

Figure it out, or you want the wild cane to be pulled out.

Django
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Dave posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Django posted:

 

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum [chul chul], punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc


 

Kiddo, these are common words used in East Indian communities, from childhood it's heard and the English Language meanings can be derived.

Click on link below,you will find most of the words and their meanings

https://moonsammy.wordpress.co...guyanese-dictionary/

OK. That looks like an interesting site...will look at it later.

How can you tell which is Indian based and which is not?

Put on you Draaz and visit Django, he knows  nuff nuff thing, he gon teach you.

Bhai, you is wan crude fella.

Django
Django posted:
Dave posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Django posted:

 

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum [chul chul], punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc


 

Kiddo, these are common words used in East Indian communities, from childhood it's heard and the English Language meanings can be derived.

Click on link below,you will find most of the words and their meanings

https://moonsammy.wordpress.co...guyanese-dictionary/

OK. That looks like an interesting site...will look at it later.

How can you tell which is Indian based and which is not?

Put on you Draaz and visit Django, he knows  nuff nuff thing, he gon teach you.

Bhai, you is wan crude fella.

Djangy Bhaio, like you lost for words. Checkmate????

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Put on you Draaz and visit Django, he knows  nuff nuff thing, he gon teach you.

Bhai, you is wan crude fella.

Djangy Bhaio, like you lost for words. Checkmate????

Wondering if VishMahabir knows what is "Draaz" that bhai Imran thinks Django does swing that way.

Django
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Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Put on you Draaz and visit Django, he knows  nuff nuff thing, he gon teach you.

Bhai, you is wan crude fella.

Djangy Bhaio, like you lost for words. Checkmate????

Wondering if VishMahabir knows what is "Draaz" that bhai Imran thinks Django does swing that way.

Come on. You starting to sound like Redux/Ronan/Iguana. Not too long from now, you might start calling posters antiman etc.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Put on you Draaz and visit Django, he knows  nuff nuff thing, he gon teach you.

Bhai, you is wan crude fella.

Djangy Bhaio, like you lost for words. Checkmate????

Wondering if VishMahabir knows what is "Draaz" that bhai Imran thinks Django does swing that way.

Come on. You starting to sound like Redux/Ronan/Iguana. Not too long from now, you might start calling posters antiman etc.

You know i man doan do such. That's for the weaklings.

Django
Dave posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Django posted:

 

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum [chul chul], punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc


 

Kiddo, these are common words used in East Indian communities, from childhood it's heard and the English Language meanings can be derived.

Click on link below,you will find most of the words and their meanings

https://moonsammy.wordpress.co...guyanese-dictionary/

OK. That looks like an interesting site...will look at it later.

How can you tell which is Indian based and which is not?

Put on you Draaz and visit Django, he knows  nuff nuff thing, he gon teach you.

Drazz I know.

Yall should be more like Django...dont see him cussin out people out here.

Admit it...you jus happy to see me here.

V
VishMahabir posted:
Dave posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Django posted:

 

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum [chul chul], punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc


 

Kiddo, these are common words used in East Indian communities, from childhood it's heard and the English Language meanings can be derived.

Click on link below,you will find most of the words and their meanings

https://moonsammy.wordpress.co...guyanese-dictionary/

OK. That looks like an interesting site...will look at it later.

How can you tell which is Indian based and which is not?

Put on you Draaz and visit Django, he knows  nuff nuff thing, he gon teach you.

Drazz I know.

Yall should be more like Django...dont see him cussin out people out here.

Admit it...you jus happy to see me here.

Lol. Look at the love birds. Leave you in the hands of Django, heard he likes to be without clothes in his shop. Django calling you Friendooo 😊

FM
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VishMahabir posted:

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum, punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc

My observation is that they are primarily used by Indos (I think). I notice too that some people (non-Indos) simply don’t use them. Ronan, Iguana, etc don’t seem to use any of them. Some of them are not in a dictionary, so they are not necessarily English words. So here are my questions:

Are these words part of the Afro or Indo language they brought from Africa or India?

Are they based on the original Hindi language?

Are they “creole” words that develop over the years of mixing with Afro and Indo words?

Why does it look like one set of Guyanese use them?

Can I ask you a Question, Do you have a Loli?

K
Django posted:
Dave posted:

 Django, heard he likes to be without clothes in his shop.

r@$$ bhai,looks like you digging up for info on Django.

Don’t need to bud.. you’re a good man. 

FM
kp posted:
VishMahabir posted:

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum, punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc

My observation is that they are primarily used by Indos (I think). I notice too that some people (non-Indos) simply don’t use them. Ronan, Iguana, etc don’t seem to use any of them. Some of them are not in a dictionary, so they are not necessarily English words. So here are my questions:

Are these words part of the Afro or Indo language they brought from Africa or India?

Are they based on the original Hindi language?

Are they “creole” words that develop over the years of mixing with Afro and Indo words?

Why does it look like one set of Guyanese use them?

Can I ask you a Question, Do you have a Loli?

You willing to check and find out?

V
VishMahabir posted:
kp posted:
VishMahabir posted:

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum, punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc

My observation is that they are primarily used by Indos (I think). I notice too that some people (non-Indos) simply don’t use them. Ronan, Iguana, etc don’t seem to use any of them. Some of them are not in a dictionary, so they are not necessarily English words. So here are my questions:

Are these words part of the Afro or Indo language they brought from Africa or India?

Are they based on the original Hindi language?

Are they “creole” words that develop over the years of mixing with Afro and Indo words?

Why does it look like one set of Guyanese use them?

Can I ask you a Question, Do you have a Loli?

You willing to check and find out?

De man deh too far. He want you fuh tek out wan pitch and post am on GNI. Wah you seh deh VM?

FM
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

 Django, heard he likes to be without clothes in his shop.

r@$$ bhai,looks like you digging up for info on Django.

Don’t need to bud.. you’re a good man. 

Like yu rass skitsofrenik, bipola or what?...yu saying 2 different things about Django. 

V
VishMahabir posted:
kp posted:
VishMahabir posted:

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum, punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc

My observation is that they are primarily used by Indos (I think). I notice too that some people (non-Indos) simply don’t use them. Ronan, Iguana, etc don’t seem to use any of them. Some of them are not in a dictionary, so they are not necessarily English words. So here are my questions:

Are these words part of the Afro or Indo language they brought from Africa or India?

Are they based on the original Hindi language?

Are they “creole” words that develop over the years of mixing with Afro and Indo words?

Why does it look like one set of Guyanese use them?

Can I ask you a Question, Do you have a Loli?

You willing to check and find out?

You r@ss is one Batty Man . Post a pitch we can all help you decide whether it's a Loli or a Pata. 

K

Now that some of you have let it all out...(yes, I am guilty too)

Its amazing how some of you knuckleheads can really destroy a thread with some legitimate questions with your miasmic crap...

if this is the level of discourse that takes place in Guyana then maybe Trump is right to label this backwater country as a "s---hole" country.

The sad reality is that is seems like most of you here are Indos (my guess) who got nothing better to do with their time...rather than trade barbs...better be careful, if this is the level of intelligence reflected among PPP leaders (who dont give a heave ho about Indos) in Guyana then yall better be prepared to be out of power for 28 years....without being stereotypical hers, this level of discourse adds new meaning to the statement "dem coolies deserve what dey get" 

No wonder you dont see the likes of Ronan, Iguana and Carib getting in the sewer.

Admin, you should close this thread, its not going anywhere. 

V
VishMahabir posted:

Now that some of you have let it all out...(yes, I am guilty too)

Its amazing how some of you knuckleheads can really destroy a thread with some legitimate questions with your miasmic crap...

if this is the level of discourse that takes place in Guyana then maybe Trump is right to label this backwater country as a "s---hole" country.

The sad reality is that is seems like most of you here are Indos (my guess) who got nothing better to do with their time...rather than trade barbs...better be careful, if this is the level of intelligence reflected among PPP leaders (who dont give a heave ho about Indos) in Guyana then yall better be prepared to be out of power for 28 years....without being stereotypical hers, this level of discourse adds new meaning to the statement "dem coolies deserve what dey get" 

No wonder you dont see the likes of Ronan, Iguana and Carib getting in the sewer.

Admin, you should close this thread, its not going anywhere. 

Be a good sport man. It's all in good humor. Show abie de ting nah!

FM
VishMahabir posted:

Now that some of you have let it all out...(yes, I am guilty too)

Its amazing how some of you knuckleheads can really destroy a thread with some legitimate questions with your miasmic crap...

if this is the level of discourse that takes place in Guyana then maybe Trump is right to label this backwater country as a "s---hole" country.

The sad reality is that is seems like most of you here are Indos (my guess) who got nothing better to do with their time...rather than trade barbs...better be careful, if this is the level of intelligence reflected among PPP leaders (who dont give a heave ho about Indos) in Guyana then yall better be prepared to be out of power for 28 years....without being stereotypical hers, this level of discourse adds new meaning to the statement "dem coolies deserve what dey get" 

No wonder you dont see the likes of Ronan, Iguana and Carib getting in the sewer.

Admin, you should close this thread, its not going anywhere. 

You get your ORGASM  and now you want to run.

K
skeldon_man posted:
Tola posted:

Ayu tak good  like abie dis. 

Bhai doan feget fe milk ah cow and don pull de bubbie too hard. 

Nah farget fuh tie dem back foot wid de channa rope.

Me feget de rope and de back foot knack down too many milk bucket fa me.  One time de cow one foot stand in the milk bucket and will not move.   Mek sure de cow will not pee while milking.  

Tola
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cain posted:
VishMahabir posted:
cain posted:

Vish, I asked a question in another thread you might have missed

At what age did you migrate?

Thanks!

So?

Ask am humuch year he bin when he come merica because twice he doesn't seem to understand "migrate".

GTAngler
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VishMahabir posted:

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum, punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc

My observation is that they are primarily used by Indos (I think). I notice too that some people (non-Indos) simply don’t use them. Ronan, Iguana, etc don’t seem to use any of them. Some of them are not in a dictionary, so they are not necessarily English words. So here are my questions:

Are these words part of the Afro or Indo language they brought from Africa or India?

Are they based on the original Hindi language?

Are they “creole” words that develop over the years of mixing with Afro and Indo words?

Why does it look like one set of Guyanese use them?

I have a more serious question to ask you. If you don't know these words or heard of them before, you are not from Guyana. I don't care if you leave as a child and live here for many years. My kids that are born here know these words very well because when I drop lash ah them for rass for chul-clul behavior, they remember why. You need some good trashing pun you rass too. This show-off behavior of yours is not sitting well with me. 

FM
VishMahabir posted:

I notice here that some people use words (I have been keeping a list since I been on this site) like poke, chum chum, punani, sumutoo, nara, aloo, baigan, choka, dharu, roti, karaila, loli, paglee, prappa, etc

My observation is that they are primarily used by Indos (I think). I notice too that some people (non-Indos) simply don’t use them. Ronan, Iguana, etc don’t seem to use any of them. Some of them are not in a dictionary, so they are not necessarily English words. So here are my questions:

Are these words part of the Afro or Indo language they brought from Africa or India?

Are they based on the original Hindi language?

Are they “creole” words that develop over the years of mixing with Afro and Indo words?

Why does it look like one set of Guyanese use them?

There are some Hindi words in regular creole usage, paglee definitely one and punani another. Especially food names have entered the Guyanese/Trinidadian creole lexicon.   I am not sure that prappa is a Hindi word.  At least not when used by non Indians.

And in fact rural Caribbean Indians have built a dialect on a creole language base which its itself linked to the various West African pidgin English.  Urban Indians speak straight Afro Caribbean creole English.  So yes there has been much linguistic interchange between the two groups.  Note that Creolese rides on a West African grammatical system using English as its lexicon.  The English words adjusted to a West African mouth.

The amount of African (as adjusted to the Caribbean) influences in the behavior of known Indo KKK on GNI would drive most of them to suicide if they really knew what they were doing.

I have already mentioned before that over time many Caribbean Indians respond to drum music in an Afro Caribbean way.

FM
cain posted:

, it is mostly Indians who use the words such as Tawa, Belna, Luckney, Patkay .

These are words that an urban black person most likely wouldn't know though those in the rural areas likely would.

FM
VishMahabir posted:

 

Admin, you should close this thread, its not going anywhere. 

Please don't.  Just tell idle people to shut up if they have nothing to say.

This topic is of interest.  For instance I have always wondered why Guyanese say "bai" (boy) instead of "bwai". 

One characteristic that I note with both Africans and Indians (the real ones not the fake Caribbean ones) is the use of "auntie/uncle" to address on older person who is a close acquaintance, but not a blood relative of the family.

This is also the pattern in the Caribbean and it confuses many non Caribbean people.

I find that Guyanese don't talk enough about the origins of our culture.  One fact that needs to be understood is even though the two groups didn't trust each other they lived side by side so had great impact on each other.  So all Guyanese use channa, and every Guyanese knows aloo.  I think that the Hindi influence in mainstream Guyanese creolese is especially visible in food items.

FM
caribny posted:
VishMahabir posted:

 

Admin, you should close this thread, its not going anywhere. 

  One fact that needs to be understood is even though the two groups didn't trust each other they lived side by side so had great impact on each other. 

That's true in the Countryside, my neighboring village is Afro we get along fine, sometimes we go for a drink at the bars, same they will do in our village.

Django
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ball posted:

 butta flap and fried banga mary wash down wid mauby fo bambye after lunch

Yuh confusing Vish. De Butta Flap meh talking about na sell ah cake shap.

Bannaz, Vish is no Packoo. 

Mitwah
GTAngler posted:
Amral posted:

How about if I say me and you konkee cannot agree

What deh rass, "agree"??? I know it as me an you kankee cyant boil.

I remember Dad long ago mixing the ingredients into a paste, putting it in banana leaves, wrapping the leaves into 2"x2" squares and tying them with twine, then boiling them in a large pot. Delicious!  

FM
Leonora posted:
GTAngler posted:
Amral posted:

How about if I say me and you konkee cannot agree

What deh rass, "agree"??? I know it as me an you kankee cyant boil.

I remember Dad long ago mixing the ingredients into a paste, putting it in banana leaves, wrapping the leaves into 2"x2" squares and tying them with twine, then boiling them in a large pot. Delicious!  

That was good treat for us as kids, my mom will always make for us.

Have you ever had Chanchee added with sugar,Chanchee is the by product of making Ghee and Coconut oil.That's another treat.

Haven't have for awhile, will have to make some, banana leaves selling in the stores in my neck of the woods.

Watch how Vish will ask what is "Chanchee"

Django
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Leonora posted:

I remember Dad long ago mixing the ingredients into a paste, putting it in banana leaves, wrapping the leaves into 2"x2" squares and tying them with twine, then boiling them in a large pot. Delicious!  

I tried making some but instead of using leaves which I couldn't get I baked it in a pyrex dish.

cain
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cain posted:
Leonora posted:

I remember Dad long ago mixing the ingredients into a paste, putting it in banana leaves, wrapping the leaves into 2"x2" squares and tying them with twine, then boiling them in a large pot. Delicious!  

I tried making some but instead of using leaves which I couldn't get I baked it in a pyrex dish.

The banana leaves gives it that special flavor.

Spanish and Indian stores selling banana leaves,check it out.

Django
Django posted:
 

That was good treat for us as kids, my mom will always make for us.

Have you ever had Chanchee added with sugar,Chanchee is the by product of making Ghee and Coconut oil.That's another treat.

Haven't have for awhile, will have to make some, banana leaves selling in the stores in my neck of the woods.

Watch how Vish will ask what is "Chanchee"

Loved Chanchee! 

FM

I don’t know half of the words that country folks use and many of them I only learned by seeing them mentioned here on GNI. I wouldn’t expect Vish to be familiar with those words if he left Guyana at a young age.

Mars
cain posted:
Leonora posted:

I remember Dad long ago mixing the ingredients into a paste, putting it in banana leaves, wrapping the leaves into 2"x2" squares and tying them with twine, then boiling them in a large pot. Delicious!  

I tried making some but instead of using leaves which I couldn't get I baked it in a pyrex dish.

Freshco sells the leaves where you find the Indian frozen veggies. I get it also at the Chinese grocers here.

Mitwah
Mars posted:

I don’t know half of the words that country folks use and many of them I only learned by seeing them mentioned here on GNI. I wouldn’t expect Vish to be familiar with those words if he left Guyana at a young age.

You is a town boy, so them words would not be in your vocabulary.

Guyana is a unique country when it come to usage of the local words,every County have their own local language and can be identified.

While there i was able to visit the other two Counties,stayed in Essequibo for awhile and had vacations at my aunt in Black Bush Polder,that was during my teenage years.In my adult life traveled the whole of Berbice on the main highway and the three major island in the Essequibo River.Demerara was my home town,travelled all over,except Linden.

Django
Mars posted:

I don’t know half of the words that country folks use and many of them I only learned by seeing them mentioned here on GNI. I wouldn’t expect Vish to be familiar with those words if he left Guyana at a young age.

me thinks he was wan lil dugla bacha. 

Dugla is from hindi word doogalaa meaning many, much or mixed. Bacha in hindi means "child".

Mitwah
Leonora posted:

I never knew what was Pepperpot until I saw it mentioned on GNI few years ago. My villagers never cooked it because we felt it was sacrilegious to mix up meats!  

That's Amerindian dish.The other population copied and made their own concoction.

Souse and black pudding are African and of course other dishes.

Django
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VishMahabir posted:

if this is the level of discourse that takes place in Guyana then maybe Trump is right to label this backwater country as a "s---hole" country.

The sad reality is that is seems like most of you here are Indos (my guess) who got nothing better to do with their time...rather than trade barbs...better be careful, if this is the level of intelligence reflected among PPP leaders (who dont give a heave ho about Indos) in Guyana then yall better be prepared to be out of power for 28 years....without being stereotypical hers, this level of discourse adds new meaning to the statement "dem coolies deserve what dey get" 

No wonder you dont see the likes of Ronan, Iguana and Carib getting in the sewer.

Admin, you should close this thread, its not going anywhere. 

KP asking if you have a penis. Skeldon man want to see a picture of it. "Dave" fantasizing about Django widout he clothes. Yugli man reading and dribbling, he imagination running wild with all of the above. Grown "men" with tendencies to buggery, all of them Indian, but they are NOT representative of all Indians. These are what would be called "country coolies" in Guyana, particularly by Indians in Georgetown.

Urban Indians like the ones from Georgetown are more sophisticated and mix more liberally with other races, cook and eat other than Indian foods, etc. They are more open to other races, music and cultures, and have a mixture of friends from other races much to the chagrin of the "country coolies" like Yugli and he crew. These urban Indians are often vilified by the "country coolie" types and referred to as "town coolies", "N.....r lovers" and suh on by Indians from the country. 

Re the buggery thing - I've read where this practice may have its roots on the ships from India which lacked women. You certainly don't see Indians from India so wrapped up in buggery like ah we Guyanese Indian pals from the countryside. Note yuh pal Nehru MANY offers to "bugger" those he disagrees with. It is in every conversation on this board where Skeldon, KP, Yugli, Dave etc. participate.

So don't paint all Indians like you did. There is a difference between urban and country Indians. It's part of the cultural differences in Guyana, though yuh gon hearing nuff wailing and screaming about this.

Now, there is similiar among Guyanese blacks, but it is not location based. It is economic based. Bourgeois blacks versus common blacks. "Elite" blacks like Granger, Trotman, etc. versus the more "common" blacks. Suh we have it too (minus the buggery). More class based than location based.

A lil "education" fuh you on yuh homeland. Use it wisely. And doant tun yuh back pon de crew above.

FM
Django posted:
Leonora posted:

I never knew what was Pepperpot until I saw it mentioned on GNI few years ago. My villagers never cooked it because we felt it was sacrilegious to mix up meats!  

That's Amerindian dish.The other population copied and made their own concoction.

Souse and black pudding are African and of course other dishes.

Black pudding is European. They call it blood sausage. There are variations of blood sausage in many European countries. I think we got the Scottish version in Guyana. Not sure where souse originated.

Mars
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Mars posted:
Django posted:
Leonora posted:

I never knew what was Pepperpot until I saw it mentioned on GNI few years ago. My villagers never cooked it because we felt it was sacrilegious to mix up meats!  

That's Amerindian dish.The other population copied and made their own concoction.

Souse and black pudding are African and of course other dishes.

Black pudding is European. There are variations of blood pudding in many European countries. I think we got the Scottish version in Guyana. Not sure where souse originated.

Correct. Spaniards call it Morcilla. I think souse has european origins too.

FM
Mars posted:
Django posted:
Leonora posted:

I never knew what was Pepperpot until I saw it mentioned on GNI few years ago. My villagers never cooked it because we felt it was sacrilegious to mix up meats!  

That's Amerindian dish.The other population copied and made their own concoction.

Souse and black pudding are African and of course other dishes.

Black pudding is European. There are variations of blood pudding in many European countries. I think we got the Scottish version in Guyana. Not sure where souse originated.

Thanks for the correction, we learning.Appears the Africans  in Guyana copied from the Scottish.

Django
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I've never eaten Black pudding. At a Kangan in Guyana (next day wedding feast), the guys were given this as a Cutter while drinking, a guy vomited and was very ill after that. 

FM
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Iguana posted:
Mars posted:
Django posted:
Leonora posted:

I never knew what was Pepperpot until I saw it mentioned on GNI few years ago. My villagers never cooked it because we felt it was sacrilegious to mix up meats!  

That's Amerindian dish.The other population copied and made their own concoction.

Souse and black pudding are African and of course other dishes.

Black pudding is European. There are variations of blood pudding in many European countries. I think we got the Scottish version in Guyana. Not sure where souse originated.

Correct. Spaniards call it Morcilla. I think souse has european origins too.

Yes, my Puerto Rican friend had some Morcilla at one of his parties and they must have gotten it from the Spaniards. Souse is probably European too from the days when there was no refrigeration and they pickled the meat to keep it from spoiling.

Mars
Iguana posted:
VishMahabir posted:

if this is the level of discourse that takes place in Guyana then maybe Trump is right to label this backwater country as a "s---hole" country.

The sad reality is that is seems like most of you here are Indos (my guess) who got nothing better to do with their time...rather than trade barbs...better be careful, if this is the level of intelligence reflected among PPP leaders (who dont give a heave ho about Indos) in Guyana then yall better be prepared to be out of power for 28 years....without being stereotypical hers, this level of discourse adds new meaning to the statement "dem coolies deserve what dey get" 

No wonder you dont see the likes of Ronan, Iguana and Carib getting in the sewer.

Admin, you should close this thread, its not going anywhere. 

KP asking if you have a penis. Skeldon man want to see a picture of it. "Dave" fantasizing about Django widout he clothes. Yugli man reading and dribbling, he imagination running wild with all of the above. Grown "men" with tendencies to buggery, all of them Indian, but they are NOT representative of all Indians. These are what would be called "country coolies" in Guyana, particularly by Indians in Georgetown.

Urban Indians like the ones from Georgetown are more sophisticated and mix more liberally with other races, cook and eat other than Indian foods, etc. They are more open to other races, music and cultures, and have a mixture of friends from other races much to the chagrin of the "country coolies" like Yugli and he crew. These urban Indians are often vilified by the "country coolie" types and referred to as "town coolies", "N.....r lovers" and suh on by Indians from the country. 

Re the buggery thing - I've read where this practice may have its roots on the ships from India which lacked women. You certainly don't see Indians from India so wrapped up in buggery like ah we Guyanese Indian pals from the countryside. Note yuh pal Nehru MANY offers to "bugger" those he disagrees with. It is in every conversation on this board where Skeldon, KP, Yugli, Dave etc. participate.

So don't paint all Indians like you did. There is a difference between urban and country Indians. It's part of the cultural differences in Guyana, though yuh gon hearing nuff wailing and screaming about this.

Now, there is similiar among Guyanese blacks, but it is not location based. It is economic based. Bourgeois blacks versus common blacks. "Elite" blacks like Granger, Trotman, etc. versus the more "common" blacks. Suh we have it too (minus the buggery). More class based than location based.

A lil "education" fuh you on yuh homeland. Use it wisely. And doant tun yuh back pon de crew above.

Why don't you PM Vish and help him with his many problems. You are suggesting to be a Bourgeois Black, in other words Town Man don't know about Buggery. Pretty Boy  Reptile, when you shit ,you don't use your hand to wipe your ass, well all of us do the same. So don't come here and profess to be a choir boy, primp and proper.

 Look it up , Vish asked about Loli and I asked him in kind. Never used the word Penis.

K
Leonora posted:

I've never eaten Black pudding. At a Kangan in Guyana (next day wedding feast), the guys were given this as a Cutter while drinking and a guy vomited and was so sick after that. 

The best black pudding and souse i had is from Buxton line top. 

FM
Dave posted:
Leonora posted:

I've never eaten Black pudding. At a Kangan in Guyana (next day wedding feast), the guys were given this as a Cutter while drinking and a guy vomited and was so sick after that. 

The best black pudding and souse i had is from Buxton line top. 

Bhai, Afros are the best to prepare the two dishes.

One of our villager an Afro was good at preparing the two.

Django

Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936) was an India-born English writer. Many of his stories are set in India during the British Raj. In these stories there are British soldiers that include Scotsmen. Kipling captures their speech well in the characters' dialogues. And that gave me an insight into Guyana creolese origins.

Many overseers in the Guyana plantations were Scotsmen who didn't speak standard English. Slaves and indentured labourers listened to those Scotsmen and copied their pronunciations.

Here is a sample which I've taken from Kipling's Indian tales: "at wan gulp" for "at one gulp"/ "av" for "of"/ "bleddy" for "bloody"/ "wid" for "with"/ "conduck" for "conduct"/ "bekaze" for "because"/ "meself" for "myself"/ "will larn you a lesson" for "will teach you a lesson", etc.

FM
Leonora posted:

I've never eaten Black pudding. At a Kangan in Guyana (next day wedding feast), the guys were given this as a Cutter while drinking, a guy vomited and was very ill after that. 

You can't put good things in a bad stomach. Ask Nehru deh. 

Mitwah
Iguana posted:
Mars posted:
Django posted:
Leonora posted:

I never knew what was Pepperpot until I saw it mentioned on GNI few years ago. My villagers never cooked it because we felt it was sacrilegious to mix up meats!  

That's Amerindian dish.The other population copied and made their own concoction.

Souse and black pudding are African and of course other dishes.

Black pudding is European. There are variations of blood pudding in many European countries. I think we got the Scottish version in Guyana. Not sure where souse originated.

Correct. Spaniards call it Morcilla. I think souse has european origins too.

What the hell is souse?

Gilbakka posted:

Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936) was an India-born English writer. Many of his stories are set in India during the British Raj. In these stories there are British soldiers that include Scotsmen. Kipling captures their speech well in the characters' dialogues. And that gave me an insight into Guyana creolese origins.

Many overseers in the Guyana plantations were Scotsmen who didn't speak standard English. Slaves and indentured labourers listened to those Scotsmen and copied their pronunciations.

Here is a sample which I've taken from Kipling's Indian tales: "at wan gulp" for "at one gulp"/ "av" for "of"/ "bleddy" for "bloody"/ "wid" for "with"/ "conduck" for "conduct"/ "bekaze" for "because"/ "meself" for "myself"/ "will larn you a lesson" for "will teach you a lesson", etc.

Interesting.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936) was an India-born English writer. Many of his stories are set in India during the British Raj. In these stories there are British soldiers that include Scotsmen. Kipling captures their speech well in the characters' dialogues. And that gave me an insight into Guyana creolese origins.

Many overseers in the Guyana plantations were Scotsmen who didn't speak standard English. Slaves and indentured labourers listened to those Scotsmen and copied their pronunciations.

Here is a sample which I've taken from Kipling's Indian tales: "at wan gulp" for "at one gulp"/ "av" for "of"/ "bleddy" for "bloody"/ "wid" for "with"/ "conduck" for "conduct"/ "bekaze" for "because"/ "meself" for "myself"/ "will larn you a lesson" for "will teach you a lesson", etc.

Some Newfies speak like Guyanese. Their Scottish background might be it.

Mitwah
Leonora posted:

Hey Gil, I heard some Irish people conversing, then turned around to give them a second look because it sounded like Guyanese Creole.

Likely Scottish. My grandfather used to tell us that a lot of the plantation overseers and whites in Guyana were mostly Scottish. He was a teacher and had a lot of contact with them.

FM
Mars posted:
Iguana posted:
Mars posted:
Django posted:
Leonora posted:

I never knew what was Pepperpot until I saw it mentioned on GNI few years ago. My villagers never cooked it because we felt it was sacrilegious to mix up meats!  

That's Amerindian dish.The other population copied and made their own concoction.

Souse and black pudding are African and of course other dishes.

Black pudding is European. There are variations of blood pudding in many European countries. I think we got the Scottish version in Guyana. Not sure where souse originated.

Correct. Spaniards call it Morcilla. I think souse has european origins too.

Yes, my Puerto Rican friend had some Morcilla at one of his parties and they must have gotten it from the Spaniards. Souse is probably European too from the days when there was no refrigeration and they pickled the meat to keep it from spoiling.

Yes. Spanish also have a version of souse. Note the kind of meat used in souse, basically throw away parts - ears, feet, etc. Affordable for the poorer population who are more likely to be migrants to the Caribbean. Garlic pork definitely came from Portugese migrants as did Cheese Straws.

 

FM
Leonora posted:

I remember Dad long ago mixing the ingredients into a paste, putting it in banana leaves, wrapping the leaves into 2"x2" squares and tying them with twine, then boiling them in a large pot. Delicious!  

Konkee. I think the Amerindians used to put the banana leaf squares into a hole in the ground with coals around it. That is real old fashioned Guyanese stuff. Spanish people also make it. They call it Pasteles. Ricans boil it. Dominicans fry it.

FM
Leonora posted:

I've never eaten Black pudding. At a Kangan in Guyana (next day wedding feast), the guys were given this as a Cutter while drinking, a guy vomited and was very ill after that. 

If you are a hindu this is strictly forbidden. Has cow blood in it. He vomit because he ass musta bin too dam drunk.

FM
kp posted:

 Look it up , Vish asked about Loli and I asked him in kind. Never used the word Penis.

You asked about the man's dick. That is fcking GAY!!!! You (KP), Skeldon Man, Dave, Nehru, and de Yugli man gat one common trait in addition to yuh love fuh de PPP. Y'all love to talk about man dick / loli / penis or whateva yuh want call it, buggery and gay shit.

Nehru start a whole thread to discuss the size and shape of Trump's dick and de usual cast of characters come dribbling and running fuh talk about it. Sick shit!

Grown ass man like you with accomplished professional kids who would be embarassed to know what you goin' on wid hay. Every damn thread hay polluted with gay shit. And that's not even including Keffer and Prashad and they lil mental jam lolo sessions on every thread.

Y'all are a freaking sick bunch of Indians!!!!! NO other person hay behaves like that!

FM
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Iguana posted:
Leonora posted:

I've never eaten Black pudding. At a Kangan in Guyana (next day wedding feast), the guys were given this as a Cutter while drinking, a guy vomited and was very ill after that. 

If you are a hindu this is strictly forbidden. Has cow blood in it. He vomit because he ass musta bin too dam drunk.

He was very drunk and vomited so much that we thought he was dying.

Don't know if I told you: your writing seems so familiar. Come on, fess up Guana Banna, who are you? 

FM
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Iguana posted:
VishMahabir posted:

if this is the level of discourse that takes place in Guyana then maybe Trump is right to label this backwater country as a "s---hole" country.

The sad reality is that is seems like most of you here are Indos (my guess) who got nothing better to do with their time...rather than trade barbs...better be careful, if this is the level of intelligence reflected among PPP leaders (who dont give a heave ho about Indos) in Guyana then yall better be prepared to be out of power for 28 years....without being stereotypical hers, this level of discourse adds new meaning to the statement "dem coolies deserve what dey get" 

No wonder you dont see the likes of Ronan, Iguana and Carib getting in the sewer.

Admin, you should close this thread, its not going anywhere. 

KP asking if you have a penis. Skeldon man want to see a picture of it. "Dave" fantasizing about Django widout he clothes. Yugli man reading and dribbling, he imagination running wild with all of the above. Grown "men" with tendencies to buggery, all of them Indian, but they are NOT representative of all Indians. These are what would be called "country coolies" in Guyana, particularly by Indians in Georgetown.

Urban Indians like the ones from Georgetown are more sophisticated and mix more liberally with other races, cook and eat other than Indian foods, etc. They are more open to other races, music and cultures, and have a mixture of friends from other races much to the chagrin of the "country coolies" like Yugli and he crew. These urban Indians are often vilified by the "country coolie" types and referred to as "town coolies", "N.....r lovers" and suh on by Indians from the country. 

Re the buggery thing - I've read where this practice may have its roots on the ships from India which lacked women. You certainly don't see Indians from India so wrapped up in buggery like ah we Guyanese Indian pals from the countryside. Note yuh pal Nehru MANY offers to "bugger" those he disagrees with. It is in every conversation on this board where Skeldon, KP, Yugli, Dave etc. participate.

So don't paint all Indians like you did. There is a difference between urban and country Indians. It's part of the cultural differences in Guyana, though yuh gon hearing nuff wailing and screaming about this.

Now, there is similiar among Guyanese blacks, but it is not location based. It is economic based. Bourgeois blacks versus common blacks. "Elite" blacks like Granger, Trotman, etc. versus the more "common" blacks. Suh we have it too (minus the buggery). More class based than location based.

A lil "education" fuh you on yuh homeland. Use it wisely. And doant tun yuh back pon de crew above.

...and there we have it all wrapped up in a nice package.

cain
Iguana posted:
Leonora posted:

I've never eaten Black pudding. At a Kangan in Guyana (next day wedding feast), the guys were given this as a Cutter while drinking, a guy vomited and was very ill after that. 

If you are a hindu this is strictly forbidden. Has cow blood in it. He vomit because he ass musta bin too dam drunk.

Different versions. Some with pig blood and pig runners (intestines), cow blood/intestines, sheep blood/intestines and also some with no blood called white pudding.

GTAngler
Iguana posted:
kp posted:

 Look it up , Vish asked about Loli and I asked him in kind. Never used the word Penis.

You asked about the man's dick. That is fcking GAY!!!! You (KP), Skeldon Man, Dave, Nehru, and de Yugli man gat one common trait in addition to yuh love fuh de PPP. Y'all love to talk about man dick / loli / penis or whateva yuh want call it, buggery and gay shit.

Nehru start a whole thread to discuss the size and shape of Trump's dick and de usual cast of characters come dribbling and running fuh talk about it. Sick shit!

Grown ass man like you with accomplished professional kids who would be embarassed to know what you goin' on wid hay. Every damn thread hay polluted with gay shit. And that's not even including Keffer and Prashad and they lil mental jam lolo sessions on every thread.

Y'all are a freaking sick bunch of Indians!!!!! NO other person hay behaves like that!

This site is not meant for you, you should try posting on the Religion Forum. It was OK for you to talk about Black Pudding, that's a code word for a Black man's dick, If this shit bother you, don't read it , just move on to Social or Religion. I guess you so Straight, you never had Sex.

K
Django posted:
caribny posted:
VishMahabir posted:

 

Admin, you should close this thread, its not going anywhere. 

  One fact that needs to be understood is even though the two groups didn't trust each other they lived side by side so had great impact on each other. 

That's true in the Countryside, my neighboring village is Afro we get along fine, sometimes we go for a drink at the bars, same they will do in our village.

As I keep on saying the problem in Guyana isnt at the individual level.  It is at the group level.  Blacks dont trust Indians to lead the nation and Indians dont trust blacks to do so.  This is because of the fact that they dont expect such leadership to be fair.  I will add that the Indian leaders who are distrusted by blacks aren't just the PPP but also the Indian tycoons who dominate the private sector, even at DDL where I have heard reports of anti black racism.

FM
kp posted:

It was OK for you to talk about Black Pudding, that's a code word for a Black man's dick,

....WHAT?????!!!!!!! Suh black pudding, de Guyanese delicacy widely consumed by all races when dey drinking likka is a "code word for black man's dick"???????? LMFAO.

Dude, you are nothing but an old fag. Your wife should hide every cylindrical object in the house lest you molest yuh old self LMFAO!!!!!!

FM
Iguana posted:
kp posted:

It was OK for you to talk about Black Pudding, that's a code word for a Black man's dick,

....WHAT?????!!!!!!! Suh black pudding, de Guyanese delicacy widely consumed by all races when dey drinking likka is a "code word for black man's dick"???????? LMFAO.

Dude, you are nothing but an old fag. Your wife should hide every cylindrical object in the house lest you molest yuh old self LMFAO!!!!!!

Hahaha. Me never laugh so much. If that’s what the man fantasizes about when he’s eating black pudding, who are you to deny him his fun?

Mars
Mars posted:
Iguana posted:
kp posted:

It was OK for you to talk about Black Pudding, that's a code word for a Black man's dick,

....WHAT?????!!!!!!! Suh black pudding, de Guyanese delicacy widely consumed by all races when dey drinking likka is a "code word for black man's dick"???????? LMFAO.

Dude, you are nothing but an old fag. Your wife should hide every cylindrical object in the house lest you molest yuh old self LMFAO!!!!!!

Hahaha. Me never laugh so much. If that’s what the man fantasizes about when he’s eating black pudding, who are you to deny him his fun?

I was in a restaurant and laughed so much, everyone said they wanted what I was having.  

FM
Mars posted:
Iguana posted:
kp posted:

It was OK for you to talk about Black Pudding, that's a code word for a Black man's dick,

....WHAT?????!!!!!!! Suh black pudding, de Guyanese delicacy widely consumed by all races when dey drinking likka is a "code word for black man's dick"???????? LMFAO.

Dude, you are nothing but an old fag. Your wife should hide every cylindrical object in the house lest you molest yuh old self LMFAO!!!!!!

Hahaha. Me never laugh so much. If that’s what the man fantasizes about when he’s eating black pudding, who are you to deny him his fun?

Banna ah don't tink KP know what black pudding is. He doan know is actually something people in Guyana eat. Skeleton Man was asking me what is souse! Dese guys didn't get out much. LMBO!

FM
Leonora posted:
Mars posted:
Iguana posted:
kp posted:

It was OK for you to talk about Black Pudding, that's a code word for a Black man's dick,

....WHAT?????!!!!!!! Suh black pudding, de Guyanese delicacy widely consumed by all races when dey drinking likka is a "code word for black man's dick"???????? LMFAO.

Dude, you are nothing but an old fag. Your wife should hide every cylindrical object in the house lest you molest yuh old self LMFAO!!!!!!

Hahaha. Me never laugh so much. If that’s what the man fantasizes about when he’s eating black pudding, who are you to deny him his fun?

I was in a restaurant and laughed so much, everyone said they wanted what I was having.  

Don't tell dem yuh having black pudding! Dem might misunderstand like KP!

FM
Iguana posted:
Mars posted:
Iguana posted:
kp posted:

It was OK for you to talk about Black Pudding, that's a code word for a Black man's dick,

....WHAT?????!!!!!!! Suh black pudding, de Guyanese delicacy widely consumed by all races when dey drinking likka is a "code word for black man's dick"???????? LMFAO.

Dude, you are nothing but an old fag. Your wife should hide every cylindrical object in the house lest you molest yuh old self LMFAO!!!!!!

Hahaha. Me never laugh so much. If that’s what the man fantasizes about when he’s eating black pudding, who are you to deny him his fun?

Banna ah don't tink KP know what black pudding is. He doan know is actually something people in Guyana eat. Skeleton Man was asking me what is souse! Dese guys didn't get out much. LMBO!

Tried making souse with chicken feet the other day. Must have missed a step. Friggin thing came out tasteless. Then again was a Trini recipe. Back to meh Guyanese Cook Book.

GTAngler

This thread started by Vish and one of the words he does not know was Loli. Well how this conversation swayed to Black Pudding and who are you to question my opinion,  I lived in G/T and in  WCD , yes you can call me old  and I know what I am saying and it doesn't mean I am wrong. I frequently purchase Black Pudding  from Norman Sue Bakery in Toronto. I say what I know for a fact it may not be politically correct. 

K

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