Only Hinds can see the game of cricket throw the lens of racism.

Would Jagdeo challenge Dr. Hinds on the ethnically imbalance debate? 

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Only Hinds can see the game of cricket throw the lens of racism.

Hinds is a Racist Afro Centric stooge. 

randolph posted:

The PPP and its leader, President Jagdeo, have raised the question of race ahead of the coming election. They have made it crystal clear that this is going to be their battle cry going forward. Through Commissioner Robeson Benn, they have charged that GECOM, the elections body, is overpopulated by African Guyanese, the ethnic group that is most opposed to the PPP.
They first said that 90 percent of the employees there are African Guyanese. But when it was revealed that African Guyanese actually make up less than 50 percent of GECOM’s workforce, the changed their tune—they started to say that it’s the senior staff that they were talking about.
The PPP has planted the word in the Indian Guyanese community that the closure of some sugar estates as part of GuySuCo’s rightsizing is ethnically motivated—that it is meant to strangle Indian Guyanese economically. Not so long ago, at an Indian Arrival event held at the Cultural Centre, some panelists charged the government with ethnic cleansing—they cited the removal of Indian Guyanese from top positions and they accused the government of going after Indian Guyanese businesses.
So confident is the PPP of the merit of these charges, Mr. Jagdeo actually challenged the president to a debate on race relations. Note, he wants a debate — not a discussion about race with the aim of reaching a resolution about what is indeed a troubling issue. Troubling not because the PPP charges are grounded in truth, but because all ethnic groups do feel a sense of insecurity in this our ethnically divided and charged society. That much we must admit.
I have since volunteered to debate Mr. Jagdeo on the issue. My aim is not to score points, but to begin a serious discussion about ethnicity and race. Unlike some analysts, I do not dismiss Mr. Jagdeo as some insignificant leader. He is the most popular PPP leader among Indian Guyanese, because since Dr. Jagan’s passing, he has transformed the PPP into an overtly aggressive advocate and facilitator of Indian Guyanese empowerment. Indian Guyanese know that, and no Third Term ruling is going to change that perception and reality anytime soon.
What must be immediately established and what the PPP wants to hide from public scrutiny is that the party used its tenure in office to establish, in a systematic way, the institutionalization of Indian Guyanese dominance of Guyanese political economy.
This was done primarily through a massive transfer of common economic resources into Indian Guyanese hands and the facilitation of control of major national institutions to persons of that ethnic group. True, that Indian Guyanese empowerment is of course uneven, with the bulk of the transfer of economic resources going to the Indian elites.
This government has been finding out the hard way, that almost every area of public life is dominated by persons of one ethnic group. Since the government has not in any systematic and consistent way tried to dismantle that dominance, it cannot be charged with attacks against Indian Guyanese.
In fact, if the government is guilty in this regard, it is for its less than aggressive attempt to correct things by seeking to ethnically balance control of the political economy and control of national institutions. It is no secret that in many instances the government is doing business with many of those who have benefited and endorsed the PPP’s ethnic domination scheme and marginalizing those who helped to weaken the PPP regime so that it could be electorally defeated.
One area in which this domination I am talking about is most evident is cricket—our national sport. Cricket administration in Guyana has been completely racialized in favour of one ethnic group – Indian Guyanese.
What does this mean? It essentially means that the monies that go to the respective governing groups are controlled by members of one ethnic group. It also means that this group controls all decision making in relation to national cricket, including how and where the money is spent and who gets selected to represent Guyana.
This statistic would shock Guyanese. The 14-man squad that represented Guyana at the Regional Under-15 tournament in Jamaica earlier this year included 11 Indian Guyanese and three African Guyanese players.
What all of this tells us is that ether African Guyanese are not interested in cricket management or they are marginalized from participating. Further, the statistic on the youth team suggests that only Indian Guyanese boys are interested in cricket, or are good enough to represent the nation – or that other ethnic groups are marginalized.
The latter seems to be the case. For example, member boards and associations which are more ethnically balanced have, for the most part, been marginalized from participating at the higher levels of administration. Challenges in the courts have highlighted the various issues in this regard.
Representatives of these boards and associations have been working tirelessly to educate Guyanese on what is happening and to get government to intervene to change the situation. They have been dubbed trouble makers. As a consequence, the areas where African Guyanese boys live, and clubs that they belong to, are deliberately starved of resources, and they are often overlooked for national selection.
The dictatorship in Guyana’s cricket administration was institutionalized under the PPP as part of their ethno-racial domination of Guyana. Of that, I am certain.
So, Mr. Jagdeo, this is one area of race relations I would love to discuss with you with the aim of changing it.

More of Dr. Hinds’ writings and commentaries can be found on his YouTube Channel Hinds’ Sight: Dr. David Hinds’ Guyana-Caribbean Politics and on his website www.guyanacaribbeanpolitics.news. Send comments to dhinds6106@aol.com

Here is my take on this.....

What must be immediately established and what the PPP wants to hide from public scrutiny is that the party used its tenure in office to establish, in a systematic way, the institutionalization of Indian Guyanese dominance of Guyanese political economy.

This is a myth that has been used by Blacks in the Caribbean to argue that Indians are powerful because they control economic power. Hinds has been peddling this myth. The bulk of the Indian population are poor rural dwellers whose economic power is pale compared to a handful of Indians who are wealthy. Two things:1) It is easy for this government to disempower these handful of wealthy Indians by shifting wealth into the hands of others, namely their own supporters (no doubt corruption played a role), 2) one cannot ignore the trees for the forest…most Guyanese, Afros, Indos and Amerindians (who people seem to ignore) are poor.  

This was done primarily through a massive transfer of common economic resources into Indian Guyanese hands and the facilitation of control of major national institutions to persons of that ethnic group.

Another race baiting myth about the wealthy Indian, a stereotype created by the whites in their divide and rule strategy. There is no massive transfer of economic resources, some Indians are crooks, yes, but moist businessmen are pariahs who find ways to build wealth. The handful of wealthy Indians knew how to master the rules of the game. Hinds needs to explain which group in Guyana control the real institutions of power: army, police, civil service…it is certainly not Amerindians or Indians.

This government has been finding out the hard way, that almost every area of public life is dominated by persons of one ethnic group. Since the government has not in any systematic and consistent way tried to dismantle that dominance, it cannot be charged with attacks against Indian Guyanese.

The PPP has argued that this is witch-hunting on the part of the coalition, to reward their supporters. Whether there is merit to this argument, the fact remains that this is a likely outcome of the divided society in which Hinds live. The same could be said of the situation in 1992. The only difference here is that Cheddi Jagan never went after Burnhamite Afros who committed crimes against the country and its citizens with audits and firings. The coalition opens itself for criticism in this area, not necessarily because Hinds is correct, but because it seems to govern without careful planning. The plight of the fired sugar workers, for example, without a plan to help them, makes it easy for the PPP to argue racial motivation and discrimination. Granger’s infatuation for Burnham and his policies is also not helping the situation.

    
In fact, if the government is guilty in this regard, it is for its less than aggressive attempt to correct things by seeking to ethnically balance control of the political economy and control of national institutions.

So then, why are all the Permanent Secretaries (as per Sase Singh) Afros? And why are the institutions of real power (army, police, etc) not ethnically balanced under Burnham and the coalition?

It is no secret that in many instances the government is doing business with many of those who have benefited and endorsed the PPP’s ethnic domination scheme and marginalizing those who helped to weaken the PPP regime so that it could be electorally defeated.

Hinds is writing through his racial lens again. He makes it sounds like all the Indians who supported the PPP were engaged in a deliberate grand concocted scheme to knowingly work with the PPP to make Guyana into an Indian haven. All of this because Indians see the PPP as their savior? What about those who killed Rodney and rigged national elections to perpetuate a minority rule for a generation? Were they engaged in a grand scheme also?

 
One area in which this domination I am talking about is most evident is cricket—our national sport. Cricket administration in Guyana has been completely racialized in favour of one ethnic group – Indian Guyanese.

This is where the writer shows his true color and is consumed by his own racism and dislike for others who are not Afros. A racist who only sees things through a racial lens. This one needs no exposition. Who is preventing clubs and organizations from getting access to resources under this coalition government?

In “Hindsight”, Hinds challenge to the PPP to discuss the racial problem in Guyana is an attempt to make himself relevant. Why should the Opposition Leader lower himself to the level of debating a newspaper columnist on race? This type of discussion needs to be discussed among national leaders who are in a position of power to discuss, deliberate and formulate policies to address the problem which has made Guyana into the backward state that it is today.

I believe Caribj said the wholesale transfer of economic power to Indians was done by Burnham.  The PPP has just become a scapegoat!

VishMahabir posted:

. . . Indians are powerful because they control economic power. Hinds has been peddling this myth. The bulk of the Indian population are poor rural dwellers whose economic power is pale compared to a handful of Indians who are wealthy. …most Guyanese, Afros, Indos and Amerindians (who people seem to ignore) are poor.  

but didn't Hinds say this:

"Indian Guyanese empowerment is of course uneven, with the bulk of the transfer of economic resources going to the Indian elites."

you seem confused bai

Baseman posted:

I believe Caribj said the wholesale transfer of economic power to Indians was done by Burnham.  The PPP has just become a scapegoat!

Caribj said no such thing.  Under Burnham the economy was under state control and corruption and incompetence led to an economic implosion.   That Burnham authored the collapse of black people is a very different statement from saying that he set about to transfer the economic power to Indians. 

Jagdeo made a DELIBERATE attempt to create an Indian elite through crony capitalism.  He peddles racial hysteria to the Indian masses just as Trump peddles ditto to the white working class.  This to disguise the fact that neither Jagdeo or Trump do jack for them and only value them as voting fodder at elections.  The grass roots Indian and white working class are both docile and easily conned by this.

I am not impressed by all the squeals about most Indians being poor. While that is true most Indians feel superior to blacks because of this same mythology of "Indian wealth".  Did they object to this mass concentration of wealth into the hands of a few Indians  during the PPP era. No they screamed that "lazy blacks" were getting everything.

This APNU gov't is no more racist than was the PPP.  And in fact Hinds is correct that they aren't building an African business elite. nor in fact doing much to economically empower the black masses.

I suggest that those who attacked me and called me a racist when I pointed out how racist the PPP was and I pointed out that there was tremendous wealth concentration within no more than 5% of the Indian population. The Indian elites are doing perfectly fine under this APNU gov't as they have bought out those people with their bribes.  

ronan posted:

VishMahabir posted:

. . . Indians are powerful because they control economic power. Hinds has been peddling this myth. The bulk of the Indian population are poor rural dwellers whose economic power is pale compared to a handful of Indians who are wealthy. …most Guyanese, Afros, Indos and Amerindians (who people seem to ignore) are poor.  

but didn't Hinds say this:

"Indian Guyanese empowerment is of course uneven, with the bulk of the transfer of economic resources going to the Indian elites."

you seem confused bai

Don't worry with Vish. He starts babbling nonsense anytime the issue of Indian racism comes up.  In his world racism ended in 1992 and only began again under 2015.  He refuses to deal with the fact that there was a wholesale marginalization of blacks out of leadership, especially during the Jagdeo era.

VishMahabir posted:

 

So, Mr. Jagdeo, this is one area of race relations I would love to discuss 

In “Hindsight”, Hinds challenge to the PPP to discuss the racial problem in Guyana is an attempt to make himself relevant. Why should the Opposition Leader lower himself to the level of debating a newspaper columnist on race? This type of discussion needs to be discussed among national leaders who are in a position of power to discuss, deliberate and formulate policies to address the problem which has made Guyana into the backward state that it is today.

In the first place the only Caribbean country where a black vs. Indian debate occurs is Guyana, so please stop fooling yourself that the blacks of the Caribbean spend their days obsessing about Indian wealth .  In Trinidad as much times is spent also chatting about the Syrian/French creole situation so there it is more complex and in fact its the Syrian who is seen as the "wealthy" group in Trinidad.  Ditto for Jamaica.   In Barbados its a straight black vs. white debate.

You are merely avoiding a debate on Indian racist attitudes to blacks. Yes I do want Hinds and Jagdeo to chat but Jagdeo will refuse to do so because he knows that he will not allowed to get away with peddling lies. Jagdeo wants to bait Granger into a similar ethnic appeal so that he can reduce 2020 into a black vs. Indian narrative.  Even Granger isnt so dumb as to fall for that trap.