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Gilbakka posted:
Iguana posted:

Can this woman Volda speak without sprinkling the word "comrade" everywhere? WTF is wrong with these people? The PPP and now the PNC has not woken up to the fact that communism for them is OVER! They insist on using these terms and bandying them about!

The word "comrade" predates the word "communism". It originated in the 16th century from French, Spanish & Latin roots. Its association with communism is relatively short. Comrade has traditionally been associated with close friend, companion, colleague, coworker, fellow soldier, even fellow participant in noncommunist movements like the feminist movement. For me, comrade is a charming word that I use to address someone as a mark of respect. That's all I want to say, comrade Iguana.

In George Orwell’s book, Animal Farm, the characters refer to each other as “Comrade.”   Orwell said he used the salutation as it reflects the popular use of the word in Russia.  The novel was written in a setting leading up to events of the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917.  And it was published in England in 1945.

Bibi Haniffa
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Bibi Haniffa posted:

In George Orwell’s book, Animal Farm, the characters refer to each other as “Comrade.”   Orwell said he used the salutation as it reflects the popular use of the word in Russia.  The novel was written in a setting leading up to events of the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917.  And it was published in England in 1945.

One of the characters was Snowball, an ideologue typifying communism. If I'm not mistaken I think Orwell served in a war (not world war) and it was there he had exposure to Trotskyism, thus the character Snowball and perhaps the use of "comrade'. 

FM
Iguana posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

In George Orwell’s book, Animal Farm, the characters refer to each other as “Comrade.”   Orwell said he used the salutation as it reflects the popular use of the word in Russia.  The novel was written in a setting leading up to events of the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917.  And it was published in England in 1945.

One of the characters was Snowball, an ideologue typifying communism. If I'm not mistaken I think Orwell served in a war (not world war) and it was there he had exposure to Trotskyism, thus the character Snowball and perhaps the use of "comrade'. 

I don’t know if Orwell served in a war, but in the book, all the animals, including Comrade Snowball, referred to each other as Comrade. Supposedly, Orwell was anti-communist and his book depicted the failure of communism.  Hence, the most famous quote of his novel, “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

Bibi Haniffa
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Bibi Haniffa posted:

I don’t know if Orwell served in a war, but in the book, all the animals, including Comrade Snowball, referred to each other as Comrade. Supposedly, Orwell was anti-communist and his book depicted the failure of communism.  Hence, the most famous quote of his novel, “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

Yes, he served in some civil war and was wounded. You are correct - he was anti communist. Snowball was actually a spoof of Trotsky. He wasn't an advocate of any political system but did seem to have it in for Trotsky.

FM
Iguana posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

I don’t know if Orwell served in a war, but in the book, all the animals, including Comrade Snowball, referred to each other as Comrade. Supposedly, Orwell was anti-communist and his book depicted the failure of communism.  Hence, the most famous quote of his novel, “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

Yes, he served in some civil war and was wounded. You are correct - he was anti communist. Snowball was actually a spoof of Trotsky. He wasn't an advocate of any political system but did seem to have it in for Trotsky.

Spanish Civil War

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