Ramson Jr. responds to Jagdeo

Ramson Jr. responds to Jagdeo

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See below a statement issued by PPP Member and Presidential hopeful, Charles Ramson Jr in response to PPP Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo. 
 
I am not going to get into the tit for tat with Jagdeo because this tit for tat politics is destroying Guyana and it must change so the political parties have to change the way they do things.
 
 
I will also not get into this tit for tat with Jagdeo because I respect my political party and all of our members so I will never disrespect any member in public like that since good leadership demands that you protect the people you lead.

 

But I am responding because I want people to know that I am scared of no man … I only fear God. We are all on the same team seeking to obtain the same objective which ultimately is to change the lives of Guyanese for the better and since I believe that the programme of the PPP is better than that of any other party my objective is to get the PPP back into power.

 

 
I was never aware of any such custom and over my 10 years with the party I saw different. I saw persons make public announcements before going through a nomination process for the 2015 election and only recently one potential contestant made comments in the newspapers.

 

But I would like to point out that far worse has happened like persons being involved in corruption and no press conference has ever been held about it or disrespectful and childish comparisons being made.
 
 
But I do want to say this about my Generation … if you invite our generation into the process and court our support then you are going to have to be prepared to accept that we are going to be bringing fresh ideas, beliefs and way of doing things too. We respect customs but we also stand firmly for freedom, justice, openness, and fairness.
 

Charles Ramson Jr

Original Post

This is the end of Ramson Jr in the PPP .. Jagdeo will make sure he is not given the Presidential leadership 

i have said before the CCJ court decision...

the PPP leadship will be divided if there is no third term for Jagdeo ... and Indians will suffer further ... thanks to Jagdeo 

Dave posted:

This is the end of Ramson Jr in the PPP .. Jagdeo will make sure he is not given the Presidential leadership 

i have said before the CCJ court decision...

the PPP leadship will be divided if there is no third term for Jagdeo ... and Indians will suffer further ... thanks to Jagdeo 

How ? this time na lang time,their representative will have to show their mettle.

Baseman posted:

He is definitely not ready for prime time, amateurish.  BJ should be given more respect whether you agree or not with him.   Ramson just shot himself in the foot.   He out like South. 

Definitely,he may jump ship,let wait and see.

Django posted:
Dave posted:

This is the end of Ramson Jr in the PPP .. Jagdeo will make sure he is not given the Presidential leadership 

i have said before the CCJ court decision...

the PPP leadship will be divided if there is no third term for Jagdeo ... and Indians will suffer further ... thanks to Jagdeo 

How ? this time na lang time,their representative will have to show their mettle.

APNU don’t have Indians at heart,

how many time people have to say Guyana politics is divided into two race 

1. Negro / PNC

2. Indians / PPP

Let me make it simple for you .. like ABC kids and save this for revision .. this is your weekend homework 

in a home if there is divorce who suffer ... the kids 

What happen to PPP when Naga, Ralf and Ramjattan left .. 

Now let’s move forward child ... in your books, you don’t see Indian at the short end of the rope when Congress place in government  .. never mind you suffer at the hands of the same people who was in Congress place .

Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

This is the end of Ramson Jr in the PPP .. Jagdeo will make sure he is not given the Presidential leadership 

i have said before the CCJ court decision...

the PPP leadship will be divided if there is no third term for Jagdeo ... and Indians will suffer further ... thanks to Jagdeo 

How ? this time na lang time,their representative will have to show their mettle.

APNU don’t have Indians at heart,

how many time people have to say Guyana politics is divided into two race 

1. Negro / PNC

2. Indians / PPP

Let me make it simple for you .. like ABC kids and save this for revision .. this is your weekend homework 

in a home if there is divorce who suffer ... the kids 

What happen to PPP when Naga, Ralf and Ramjattan left .. 

Now let’s move forward child ... in your books, you don’t see Indian at the short end of the rope when Congress place in government  .. never mind you suffer at the hands of the same people who was in Congress place .

You are an old fart,i predict in the next decade that will change.

Forget about the childish stuff,i have been around a long time.

Ok .. reading what actually transpired today is totally different  than what POINTBLANK posted ... he seems to extract from the discussion 

Jagdeo, Ramson talk up youths in PPP

 

Attorney-at-Law, Charles Ramson Jnr.

Opposition People’s Progressive Party (PPP) presidential candidate hopeful, Charles Ramson and  his party’s General Secretary, Bharrat Jagdeo on Saturday appeared to be on the same page about  the need for young people to have a greater say.

“I do want to say this about my generation … if you invite our generation into the process and court our support then you are going to have to be prepared to accept that we are going to be bringing fresh ideas, beliefs and way of doing things too. We respect customs but we also stand firmly for freedom, justice, openness, and fairness,” Ramson said in a Facebook post.

PPP insiders said Ramson’s announcement was frowned upon by several persons at the PPP’s Executive Committee meeting that was held on Friday.

Ramson, said to be in his mid 30s, has been seen quite often in Jagdeo’s circle in contrast to the ‘old guard’ group made up of Donald Ramotar, Clement Rohee, Indra Chandarpal, Hydar Ally, Frank Anthony and Dharamkumar Seeraj.

Ramson’s stance came just days after Jagdeo reiterated the need for older party comrades to make way for younger

People’s Progressive Party front-bencher, Anil Nandlall and Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo

persons to emerge. “We have to create more space for young people in the party. I don’t have a problem with younger comrades. A lot of the older comrades still play a valuable, useful role. There is nothing about moving people out of the party. There is room for young and old, but people sometimes have to shift down a bit,” the former Guyanese leader said a day after the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) ruled that a two-term presidential limits are constitutional.

After Janet Jagan resigned in 1999, Jagdeo was elevated to the presidency when he was 35 years old and was twice elected in 2006 and 2011. He is 54 years old. He  stressed that a significant number of PPP government officials had been young people and “I want to see the same thing happening for the party”.

Other names being touted as PPP presidential candidate hopefuls include 45-year old Anil Nandlall who has been the legal backbone of his party, filing numerous constitutional challenges and defending several party supporters against criminal charges.  Also being floated periodically as a likely pick is Dr. Frank Anthony, said to be in his late 40s or early 50s.

PPP parliamentarian, Irfan Ali

Nandlall straddles both the Jagdeo-led new guard and the old guard.

Ramson on Saturday sought to allay fears that he was upset with Jagdeo for seemingly criticising him for announcing his availability for the PPP’s presidential candidacy and at the same time beam a conciliatory tone. “I am not going to get into the tit for tat with Jagdeo because this tit for tat politics is destroying Guyana and it must change so the political parties have to change the way they do things,” said Ramson, a British-trained Attorney-at-Law.

On Thursday, Jagdeo described Ramson’s announcement in sections of the media as “a departure from that approach” in which nominees are discussed and voted on by the 35-member Central Committee.

Ramson also seized the opportunity to send a clear message that he is a disciplined member of that democratic centralist party in which  in which key decisions are made by the hierarchy and are final and binding on all members. “I will also not get into this tit for tat with Jagdeo because I respect my political party and all of our members so I will never disrespect any member in public like that since good leadership demands that you protect the people you lead,” he said.

Opposition MP Dr Frank Anthony

Claiming that he was unaware of a custom in the PPP during his 10-year old association with the PPP, Ramson assured that his sole objective was for the PPP to win the 2020 elections. “But I am responding because I want people to know that I am scared of no man … I only fear God. We are all on the same team seeking to obtain the same objective which ultimately is to change the lives of Guyanese for the better and since I believe that the programme of the PPP is better than that of any other party my objective is to get the PPP back into power,” he said.

He said he recalled persons make public announcements before going through a nomination process for the 2015 election and only recently one potential contestant made comments in the newspapers.

Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

This is the end of Ramson Jr in the PPP .. Jagdeo will make sure he is not given the Presidential leadership 

i have said before the CCJ court decision...

the PPP leadship will be divided if there is no third term for Jagdeo ... and Indians will suffer further ... thanks to Jagdeo 

How ? this time na lang time,their representative will have to show their mettle.

APNU don’t have Indians at heart,

how many time people have to say Guyana politics is divided into two race 

1. Negro / PNC

2. Indians / PPP

Let me make it simple for you .. like ABC kids and save this for revision .. this is your weekend homework 

in a home if there is divorce who suffer ... the kids 

What happen to PPP when Naga, Ralf and Ramjattan left .. 

Now let’s move forward child ... in your books, you don’t see Indian at the short end of the rope when Congress place in government  .. never mind you suffer at the hands of the same people who was in Congress place .

You are an old fart,i predict in the next decade that will change.

Forget about the childish stuff,i have been around a long time.

What’s your point if you are around a long time ... what change 

Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

This is the end of Ramson Jr in the PPP .. Jagdeo will make sure he is not given the Presidential leadership 

i have said before the CCJ court decision...

the PPP leadship will be divided if there is no third term for Jagdeo ... and Indians will suffer further ... thanks to Jagdeo 

How ? this time na lang time,their representative will have to show their mettle.

APNU don’t have Indians at heart,

how many time people have to say Guyana politics is divided into two race 

1. Negro / PNC

2. Indians / PPP

Let me make it simple for you .. like ABC kids and save this for revision .. this is your weekend homework 

in a home if there is divorce who suffer ... the kids 

What happen to PPP when Naga, Ralf and Ramjattan left .. 

Now let’s move forward child ... in your books, you don’t see Indian at the short end of the rope when Congress place in government  .. never mind you suffer at the hands of the same people who was in Congress place .

You are an old fart,i predict in the next decade that will change.

Forget about the childish stuff,i have been around a long time.

What’s your point if you are around a long time ... what change 

Your examples.

Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

This is the end of Ramson Jr in the PPP .. Jagdeo will make sure he is not given the Presidential leadership 

i have said before the CCJ court decision...

the PPP leadship will be divided if there is no third term for Jagdeo ... and Indians will suffer further ... thanks to Jagdeo 

How ? this time na lang time,their representative will have to show their mettle.

APNU don’t have Indians at heart,

how many time people have to say Guyana politics is divided into two race 

1. Negro / PNC

2. Indians / PPP

Let me make it simple for you .. like ABC kids and save this for revision .. this is your weekend homework 

in a home if there is divorce who suffer ... the kids 

What happen to PPP when Naga, Ralf and Ramjattan left .. 

Now let’s move forward child ... in your books, you don’t see Indian at the short end of the rope when Congress place in government  .. never mind you suffer at the hands of the same people who was in Congress place .

You are an old fart,i predict in the next decade that will change.

Forget about the childish stuff,i have been around a long time.

What’s your point if you are around a long time ... what change 

Your examples.

Good you’re learning. At least I make a difference in your life.

Thank you.

Prashad is flaming pissed off right now.  You just do not refer to the man as Jagdeo.  You put Mr. in front of his name.  The man is a former President if you like it or not.  Prashad knew old man Bunny Ramson and I cannot for the life of me ever see him addressing Cheddie Jagan as Jagan or Forbes Burnham as Burnham.  The man never played cricket with you on the backdam so use Mr.   

Prashad posted:

Prashad is flaming pissed off right now.  You just do not refer to the man as Jagdeo.  You put Mr. in front of his name.  The man is a former President if you like it or not.  Prashad knew old man Bunny Ramson and I cannot for the life of me ever see him addressing Cheddie Jagan as Jagan or Forbes Burnham as Burnham.  The man never played cricket with you on the backdam so use Mr.   

Mr Devonish's take on Ramson seem spot on!

Baseman posted:

True what Mr Ramson said.  But his letter is well below par.  When one writes, you have a chance to read, digest, rethink and ensure it brings out the best of what you think.  

That letter was mediocre!

That dude's writing is so poor, it makes the snake's writing look like academia material. 

ksazma posted:
Baseman posted:

True what Mr Ramson said.  But his letter is well below par.  When one writes, you have a chance to read, digest, rethink and ensure it brings out the best of what you think.  

That letter was mediocre!

That dude's writing is so poor, it makes the snake's writing look like academia material. 

What school did he attend?  Don't tell me Acrabay College!

Baseman posted:
ksazma posted:
Baseman posted:

True what Mr Ramson said.  But his letter is well below par.  When one writes, you have a chance to read, digest, rethink and ensure it brings out the best of what you think.  

That letter was mediocre!

That dude's writing is so poor, it makes the snake's writing look like academia material. 

What school did he attend?  Don't tell me Acrabay College!

It may have more to do with his disposition than where he went to school. 

This guy's education probably costs may be around a quarter of a million US dollars.  How many of you fellows had the type of money when you were young? Prashad never had that type of money as a young man so education for him came courtesy of working his behind off military style.

 

Amral posted:

Should have addressed Jagdeo as Mr Jagdeo. Bad example 

He gave a poor rebuttal to Jagdeo as a person hoping to be President. He just proved that education does not necessarily makes a person smart.

Another person of mediocrity. The PPP full of dem.

seignet posted:
Amral posted:

Should have addressed Jagdeo as Mr Jagdeo. Bad example 

He gave a poor rebuttal to Jagdeo as a person hoping to be President. He just proved that education does not necessarily makes a person smart.

Another person of mediocrity. The PPP full of dem.

That's known for awhile.

Wait for them busers to get personal.

Mr Jagdeo. His Highness, what the blood difference, the FACT is Mr Ramson showed Leadership, Independence and CIVILITY.  HE SHOULD BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF GUYANA . If you compare him to the DONKEYS you will conclude he is way ahead!!!

Nehru posted:

Mr Jagdeo. His Highness, what the blood difference, the FACT is Mr Ramson showed Leadership, Independence and CIVILITY.  HE SHOULD BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF GUYANA . If you compare him to the DONKEYS you will conclude he is way ahead!!!

Confusion on Sunday morning.

seignet posted:
Amral posted:

Should have addressed Jagdeo as Mr Jagdeo. Bad example 

He gave a poor rebuttal to Jagdeo as a person hoping to be President. He just proved that education does not necessarily makes a person smart.

Another person of mediocrity. The PPP full of dem.

How is the AFC doing these days?  Remember that once self-proclaimed powerhouse that had all the answers to Guyana's problems.  Give us a lil update.  

Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Amral posted:

The PPP will be one confused party soon

Take a good look and tell me which party has all the brains in Guyana.

Start a list from the Parliamentary Representative ,then do the comparison.

Do the sleep walking geriatric party reps in the PNC count?  I need better guidelines.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Amral posted:

The PPP will be one confused party soon

Take a good look and tell me which party has all the brains in Guyana.

Start a list from the Parliamentary Representative ,then do the comparison.

Do the sleep walking geriatric party reps in the PNC count?  I need better guidelines.

Take the challenge and list them,all counts.

Information are easily accessible.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
yuji22 posted:

Ramson is definitely NOT Presidential material. He writes like Django. 

Anil for President.

This lil boy mek me hand fall.  All that education for a school pickney response.  He arrogant like he daaadddy!

PNC will crush and spit him put if he runs against them. He is a complete waste of time.

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