President David Granger greeting the Vice-Chairman of the National Toshaos Council (NTC), Lennox Shuman

President David Granger (second from right) greeting the Vice-Chairman of the National Toshaos Council (NTC), Lennox Shuman at the opening of the NTC confab yesterday at the Arthur Chung Convention Centre, Liliendaal. At right, First Lady Sandra Granger is greeting the Chairman of the NTC, Joel Fredericks

July 17,2018

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Gilbakka posted:

When Shuman launching his new Amerindian party?

check  here

"So far, the party is in the process of crafting its manifesto. Shuman is the only face of the new political movement so far.He said further details would be revealed at the end of the annual meeting of Amerindian chiefs from across the country which is scheduled for this month."

Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

When Shuman launching his new Amerindian party?

check  here

"So far, the party is in the process of crafting its manifesto. Shuman is the only face of the new political movement so far.He said further details would be revealed at the end of the annual meeting of Amerindian chiefs from across the country which is scheduled for this month."

The PPP stands to lose out if this party has influence. I hope his party fails to attract Amerindians. Is D2 going to join this party ?

Mr.T posted:

Why have these Amerindians got English names?

Historically, they were converted to Christianity during colonial era in the various "missions". After that American evangelists got in the act too. This partly accounts for Amerindians speaking better English than many coastlanders. Missionary churches and schools. 

Gilbakka posted:
Mr.T posted:

Why have these Amerindians got English names?

Historically, they were converted to Christianity during colonial era in the various "missions". After that American evangelists got in the act too. This partly accounts for Amerindians speaking better English than many coastlanders. Missionary churches and schools. 

That's very odd. They don't have such names in Suriname, which is only next door. They even wear traditional dresses at official functions. I suspect that these bucks have sold out.

Gilbakka posted:
Mr.T posted:

Why have these Amerindians got English names?

Historically, they were converted to Christianity during colonial era in the various "missions". After that American evangelists got in the act too. This partly accounts for Amerindians speaking better English than many coastlanders. Missionary churches and schools. 

In the late 60s, American Nazarene missionaries set up a camping site at Goshen, an Amerindian village in Essequibo. Churchgoers from the coast went annually, mixed with the natives and converted them. 

Leonora posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Mr.T posted:

Why have these Amerindians got English names?

Historically, they were converted to Christianity during colonial era in the various "missions". After that American evangelists got in the act too. This partly accounts for Amerindians speaking better English than many coastlanders. Missionary churches and schools. 

In the late 60s, American Nazarene missionaries set up a camping site at Goshen, an Amerindian village in Essequibo. Churchgoers from the coast went annually, mixed with the natives and converted them. 

Right now an American Seventh Day Adventist crew is operating in Region 1. It provides schooling, dental and medical services and mercy missions with two small airplanes.

yuji22 posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

When Shuman launching his new Amerindian party?

check  here

"So far, the party is in the process of crafting its manifesto. Shuman is the only face of the new political movement so far.He said further details would be revealed at the end of the annual meeting of Amerindian chiefs from across the country which is scheduled for this month."

The PPP stands to lose out if this party has influence. I hope his party fails to attract Amerindians. Is D2 going to join this party ?

This party will attract many Amerindians.  Lennox Shuman is the real deal. And they will collate with the PPP if need be.  Don’t let that shake hand fool you.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
yuji22 posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

When Shuman launching his new Amerindian party?

check  here

"So far, the party is in the process of crafting its manifesto. Shuman is the only face of the new political movement so far.He said further details would be revealed at the end of the annual meeting of Amerindian chiefs from across the country which is scheduled for this month."

The PPP stands to lose out if this party has influence. I hope his party fails to attract Amerindians. Is D2 going to join this party ?

This party will attract many Amerindians.  Lennox Shuman is the real deal. And they will collate with the PPP if need be.  Don’t let that shake hand fool you.

Even after the PPP kick and slap up one of them?

Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mr.T posted:

Why have these Amerindians got English names?

Same reason why Guyanese blacks and the other races have English names.  You had to become Christian to get certain jobs like teaching.

Why do you have a Muslim name?

Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Mr.T posted:

Why have these Amerindians got English names?

Same reason why Guyanese blacks and the other races have English names.  You had to become Christian to get certain jobs like teaching.

Why do you have a Muslim name?

I like beef curry.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
yuji22 posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

When Shuman launching his new Amerindian party?

check  here

"So far, the party is in the process of crafting its manifesto. Shuman is the only face of the new political movement so far.He said further details would be revealed at the end of the annual meeting of Amerindian chiefs from across the country which is scheduled for this month."

The PPP stands to lose out if this party has influence. I hope his party fails to attract Amerindians. Is D2 going to join this party ?

This party will attract many Amerindians.  Lennox Shuman is the real deal. And they will collate with the PPP if need be.  Don’t let that shake hand fool you.

Bibi, this is very bad news for the PPP.

Remember, coalitions after elections are not allowed under the constitution. With vote numbers so close between the PPP and PNC, those vital Amerindian votes can give the PNC an edge.

The PPP needs to plan their election strategy very early. It would be best for PPP/C to include his party as part of their coalition prior to the election. It would make their job of attracting Amerindian votes a lot easier.

The old Guard of the PPP must pack up and go. Time for Change in the PPP.

yuji22 posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
yuji22 posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

When Shuman launching his new Amerindian party?

check  here

"So far, the party is in the process of crafting its manifesto. Shuman is the only face of the new political movement so far.He said further details would be revealed at the end of the annual meeting of Amerindian chiefs from across the country which is scheduled for this month."

The PPP stands to lose out if this party has influence. I hope his party fails to attract Amerindians. Is D2 going to join this party ?

This party will attract many Amerindians.  Lennox Shuman is the real deal. And they will collate with the PPP if need be.  Don’t let that shake hand fool you.

Bibi, this is very bad news for the PPP.

Remember, coalitions after elections are not allowed under the constitution. With vote numbers so close between the PPP and PNC, those vital Amerindian votes can give the PNC an edge.

The PPP needs to plan their election strategy very early. It would be best for PPP/C to include his party as part of their coalition prior to the election. It would make their job of attracting Amerindian votes a lot easier.

The old Guard of the PPP must pack up and go. Time for Change in the PPP.

Well said.  The PPP problem is that the old Guard refuse to go.  They say that Jagan left the party for them.  They are there preaching Marxism and causing division.  None of them has a clue how to run an oil industry.  They are still crying everyday for the sugar workers instead of finding solutions to move on and embrace the looming oil economy.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
yuji22 posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
yuji22 posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

When Shuman launching his new Amerindian party?

check  here

"So far, the party is in the process of crafting its manifesto. Shuman is the only face of the new political movement so far.He said further details would be revealed at the end of the annual meeting of Amerindian chiefs from across the country which is scheduled for this month."

The PPP stands to lose out if this party has influence. I hope his party fails to attract Amerindians. Is D2 going to join this party ?

This party will attract many Amerindians.  Lennox Shuman is the real deal. And they will collate with the PPP if need be.  Don’t let that shake hand fool you.

Bibi, this is very bad news for the PPP.

Remember, coalitions after elections are not allowed under the constitution. With vote numbers so close between the PPP and PNC, those vital Amerindian votes can give the PNC an edge.

The PPP needs to plan their election strategy very early. It would be best for PPP/C to include his party as part of their coalition prior to the election. It would make their job of attracting Amerindian votes a lot easier.

The old Guard of the PPP must pack up and go. Time for Change in the PPP.

Well said.  The PPP problem is that the old Guard refuse to go.  They say that Jagan left the party for them.  They are there preaching Marxism and causing division.  None of them has a clue how to run an oil industry.  They are still crying everyday for the sugar workers instead of finding solutions to move on and embrace the looming oil economy.

PPP's biggest gift to Guyana was Oil. Many at GNI were laughing at the PPP with the first few attempts at discovery. The PPP ended up being 1000 percent correct about oil. The problem is that Indo divisions and infighting handed the oil to a corrupt PNC. It is like giving pearls to the hogs.

Jagdeo was a good leader but he was also arrogant when dealing crisis and disagreements in the Party. He was too heavy handed and that heavy handedness was responsible for a rift in the Party in which the AFC emerged.

Priya and Gail also contributed to the PPP's downfall. They did not allow for cooler heads and diplomacy to prevail when the Ambassador was indeed meddling in Guyana's affairs. They failed to use the diplomatic channel to lodge a protest with Washington. 

All of that is history now. What has happened since the ruling that Jagdeo cannot run ? The PPP is at a standstill. The old guard at freedom house are stunned and are blocking the process for free speech, debate and for possible candidates to come forward and start their nomination process.

Jagdeo has to realize that he is no longer in charge and it is time for the current PPP leadership to hand over the torch to a NEW leader. Failing to do so will allow for Granger to rig his way to 2020. 

yuji22 posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
yuji22 posted:

The PPP stands to lose out if this party has influence. I hope his party fails to attract Amerindians. Is D2 going to join this party ?

This party will attract many Amerindians.  Lennox Shuman is the real deal. And they will collate with the PPP if need be.  Don’t let that shake hand fool you.

Bibi, this is very bad news for the PPP.

Remember, coalitions after elections are not allowed under the constitution. With vote numbers so close between the PPP and PNC, those vital Amerindian votes can give the PNC an edge.

The PPP needs to plan their election strategy very early. It would be best for PPP/C to include his party as part of their coalition prior to the election. It would make their job of attracting Amerindian votes a lot easier.

The old Guard of the PPP must pack up and go. Time for Change in the PPP.

The PPP had most of the Amerindian votes so even a coalition is not very additive however, joining with the PNC is bad news.  The PPP needs to broaden the tent outside of what they already had.

And who are the "old Guard?"  Do they include those who buse down the US ambassador?

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