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PPP slams opposition tactics - of not cooperating with Govt’ with any degree of sincerity
- maintains intention of nominating Ramkarran to position of Speaker


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Friday, 23 December 2011 02:29
Source - Guyana Chronicle

Former Speaker Mr. Ralph Ramkarran

THE governing People’s Progressive Party Civic (PPP/C) said it has taken note of media reports that the Alliance for Change (AFC) is collaborating with the A Partnership For National Unity (APNU) to decide on who will be the Speaker of the National Assembly.

Earlier, Mr Ramjattan was reported as urging APNU to support the AFC’s nominee for Speaker and the AFC would back the APNU’s nominee for the Deputy Speaker’s position.

The PPP, in a statement, said it is interesting to note that the Stabroek News of December 20, 2011 quoted APNU’s Deputy Leader, Dr Rupert Roopnarine, as indicating that both opposition parties were hoping to settle on a candidate of theirs, prior to meeting with the PPP/C Government to continue the engagement. “So then, what’s the purpose of this matter being on the agenda?” the PPP questioned.

It said this is varying from the practice of Parliamentary democracies within the Commonwealth.

“In those countries, it is the ruling party whose nominee gets the position while the deputy goes to the opposition. This was the practice while the PPP had the majority in Parliament as well,” the PPP posited.

The PPP said it finds it ridiculous that, in the new situation in Guyana, the opposition parties that were opposed to “winner taking all” have now moved to the ridiculous position of “losers taking all”.

The PPP/C said it has announced its intentions of nominating Mr Ralph Ramkarran to the position of Speaker.

It noted that Mr Ramkarran has demonstrated fairness and integrity in that position where he served with distinction. He was commended on several occasions by all sides of the House for the leadership he provided.

“The opposition tactics is signaling that they do not intend to cooperate with the Government with any degree of sincerity. The fact that they have moved away from the established practice of parliamentary democracies speaks volumes,” the PPP charged.

The party said this does not bode well for future cooperation.

Last Updated ( Friday, 23 December 2011 02:31 )

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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
It's the same ole same ole with the PPP, dying a slow death.


If you have any brains in your head, you will shut up and get off the drugs..


Bhaiji you are drunk. I won't argue with you.
Mitwah
The PPP is on the right tract. I am watching how this will playout. The opposition is colluding with each other for the speaker's position. Each wants to put a man who will favour their party in parliament...

If they are so insincere for this early in the game what will happen doen the line.

Mr. Saint,Moses nagamootoo and all those so called other saints in the AFC are nothing but crooks in their own right. How can GR be a party tp this...
FM
The PPP no longer have to consult with the opposition on any issues. Apparantly the AFC and the APNU already made up their minds.

Moses Nagamootoo is not being consulted by his superiors in the AFC. He is told what the decisions are are and how to vote...
Stupid Moses, this is not what you signed up for.
FM
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Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
The PPP no longer have to consult with the opposition on any issues. Apparantly the AFC and the APNU already made up their minds.

Moses Nagamootoo is not being consulted by his superiors in the AFC. He is told what the decisions are are and how to vote...
Stupid Moses, this is not what you signed up for.

I hope if you ever sober up, you read very slowly the nonsense you post this early in the mornings.
Mitwah
In England each party puts forward one of their choices, and parliament then votes in a secret ballot who gets the job.
For the PPP to demand that they both get president, prime minister and speaker sounds very undemocratic to me. The speaker is supposed to be independent of any party political connection, which the PPP seems to have problem coming to terms with.
Mr.T
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Originally posted by alena:
Mr. Ramkarran would have made a good presidential candidate. let's wait for the votes, confident he will be nominated for speaker.
You are funny. How can he become speaker? The PPP lacks the votes.

What don't you understand?
FM
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Originally posted by alena:
The opposition will never be able to come up with a common candidate.
You really think the APNU and AFC are stupadee. Do you think they will allow a PPP nominee? That's the alternative to the opposition disagreeing.

Doed the APNU and AFC dislike each other more than the PPP? Ask yourself that question. Why else do you think Ramotar is concerned about the APNU and AFC private talks.
FM
Please note that it is Freedum House who is whining and crying about Speaker not Ramotar.

It seems Ramaotar accepts that the Guyanese people won. Freedom House still aint come to grips with that reality.
FM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by alena:
Mr. Ramkarran would have made a good presidential candidate. let's wait for the votes, confident he will be nominated for speaker.[/QUOTE time to go out to pasture,this fool was more suited for president in the ppp party,but he was scare of bar-rat,if he cannot help himself he is no good for the guyanese people
FM
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
The PPP has to get used to not having its way, there is no obligation for the PNC/AFC to cooperate with govt if they believe it will inhibit their ideals.


yes that is the price they get for absuing ane excluding Afros and thinking that using a few of them as thugs or stooges would guarantee inroads. The PPP doesnt own Indians...cannot expect to always get over 90% of that bloc...and there are no longer enough Indos to guarantee PPP majority rule as Indos increasingly look at options other than the PPP.
FM
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Originally posted by caribj:
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
The PPP has to get used to not having its way, there is no obligation for the PNC/AFC to cooperate with govt if they believe it will inhibit their ideals.


yes that is the price they get for absuing ane excluding Afros and thinking that using a few of them as thugs or stooges would guarantee inroads. The PPP doesnt own Indians...cannot expect to always get over 90% of that bloc...and there are no longer enough Indos to guarantee PPP majority rule as Indos increasingly look at options other than the PPP.


You think that blacks should be given all the top jobs in the country, why?
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by BGurd_See:
The PPP has to get used to not having its way, there is no obligation for the PNC/AFC to cooperate with govt if they believe it will inhibit their ideals.


yes that is the price they get for absuing ane excluding Afros and thinking that using a few of them as thugs or stooges would guarantee inroads. The PPP doesnt own Indians...cannot expect to always get over 90% of that bloc...and there are no longer enough Indos to guarantee PPP majority rule as Indos increasingly look at options other than the PPP.


You think that blacks should be given all the top jobs in the country, why?

Is that a rethorical question? Afros are the rightful owners of Guyana, Indians are merely passing thru. We were brought the to cut cane and shy paddy. Now gat back in the corna and do we job.
FM
quote:
Is that a rethorical question? Afros are the rightful owners of Guyana, Indians are merely passing thru. We were brought the to cut cane and shy paddy. Now gat back in the corna and do we job.



Why you all don't go back to the fields of Rice and Sugar Cane??
Billy Ram Balgobin
quote:
Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
quote:
Is that a rethorical question? Afros are the rightful owners of Guyana, Indians are merely passing thru. We were brought the to cut cane and shy paddy. Now gat back in the corna and do we job.



Why you all don't go back to the fields of Rice and Sugar Cane??


let me see that they go to Skeldon and cut sugarcane. They wouldn't last a week..
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:
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Is that a rethorical question? Afros are the rightful owners of Guyana, Indians are merely passing thru. We were brought the to cut cane and shy paddy. Now gat back in the corna and do we job.

Why you all don't go back to the fields of Rice and Sugar Cane??

Now...there's an original thought! Wink Will ask my friends and revert.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Ramakant_p:
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by BGurd_See:
The PPP has to get used to not having its way, there is no obligation for the PNC/AFC to cooperate with govt if they believe it will inhibit their ideals.


yes that is the price they get for absuing ane excluding Afros and thinking that using a few of them as thugs or stooges would guarantee inroads. The PPP doesnt own Indians...cannot expect to always get over 90% of that bloc...and there are no longer enough Indos to guarantee PPP majority rule as Indos increasingly look at options other than the PPP.


You think that blacks should be given all the top jobs in the country, why?


Can you tell me where I said that?

But I need to ask you. Do you think that virtually all of the top jobs should be held by Indians?
FM
The AFC is bemused at the PPP's antics regarding the appointment of Speaker. They have to understand that the electorate has spoken and none of the parties should treat their mandates lightly, or believe that it can be bargained with, or compromised. The PPP has to also understand that there is a new Order and that there has been a change. They have to get used to the fact that they don't control everything any longer.

The argument that they are entitled to the speaker's chair based on Commonwealth precedent is a very disingenious argument when one considers that we are operating in a hybrid of the Westminster system where we have an executive president. Under the doctrine of separation of powers it is a nonsense for the PPP to want to control both the executive and the legislature when they only won the executive.

The opposition would be guilty of the greatest abdication of responsibility and betrayal of the people's trust if we gave up the Chairmanship of the Assembly's affairs to the PPP. The opposition parties formally indicated a willingness to work with the PPP government in a national-unity construct and that proposal was rebuffed. It is their insincerity that we're dealing with now. Ralph Ramkarran was a good speaker but the Order has changed and he would be out of place in the present situation.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by BGurd_See:
The PPP has to get used to not having its way, there is no obligation for the PNC/AFC to cooperate with govt if they believe it will inhibit their ideals.


yes that is the price they get for absuing ane excluding Afros and thinking that using a few of them as thugs or stooges would guarantee inroads. The PPP doesnt own Indians...cannot expect to always get over 90% of that bloc...and there are no longer enough Indos to guarantee PPP majority rule as Indos increasingly look at options other than the PPP.


No you are wrong, this is the price they pay for neglecting Indians who jumped ship to the AFC. Blacks did not vote AFc. ahahhahaha

In fact they were in a lose/lose situation, either they gave milk to the Blacks and prevent riots or attend to Indian needs and get their vote but suffer political unrest as Blacks continue to riot and burn Indian businesses. Appeasement is deal made with the devil.
FM

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