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I am still processing what my wife and I witnessed this evening...our AFC activists for months have been telling us of low turnouts at PPP meetings...of heckling and so on...so tonight, we went for ourselves to see...

I am still in shock...never in my political experience from since a child, have I witnessed such a thing...a crowd, larger than those attending the meeting, comprised mostly of sugar workers, assembled some 50 feet away and booed, heckled and shouted down the three PPP speakers - Neil Kumar, Seeraj and Anil Nandlall. The crowd was vocal and fearless...like I said, I am still processing....

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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
I am still processing what my wife and I witnessed this evening...our AFC activists for months have been telling us of low turnouts at PPP meetings...of heckling and so on...so tonight, we went for ourselves to see...

I am still in shock...never in my political experience from since a child, have I witnessed such a thing...a crowd, larger than those attending the meeting, comprised mostly of sugar workers, assembled some 50 feet away and booed, heckled and shouted down the three PPP speakers - Neil Kumar, Seeraj and Anil Nandlall. The crowd was vocal and fearless...like I said, I am still processing....


Good to hear bhai...I know you would never make up such a story. CHANGE IS COMING!
T
I have been saying this for some time now, the PPP has misjudged how pissed off the population and the man in the street really is at this organization.

A lot of wrong things have been done, a lot of big houses and prados and BMW's while people can barely put food on the table.

The people who just coast into guyana in and out and the ones who have not been here in 25 years like Nehru cannot and will not have an appreciation for the suffering the average man in guyana has to go through to get simple things done.

We are not talking about getting rich we are talking the basics, light, water, food, security and saving to put away money.

Lets not even get into education for our children, children do not get free exercise books in school but we have one minister putting on feminition and yelling loudly that she is not going to apologize for spending this money and that money that is arrogance to the highest extent.

I have also warned many in our party about do not underestimate the AFC, stop throwing stones at them and lets start doing right by the people.

Fire rohee tomorrow.
J
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
I am still processing what my wife and I witnessed this evening...our AFC activists for months have been telling us of low turnouts at PPP meetings...of heckling and so on...so tonight, we went for ourselves to see...

I am still in shock...never in my political experience from since a child, have I witnessed such a thing...a crowd, larger than those attending the meeting, comprised mostly of sugar workers, assembled some 50 feet away and booed, heckled and shouted down the three PPP speakers - Neil Kumar, Seeraj and Anil Nandlall. The crowd was vocal and fearless...like I said, I am still processing....


Gerhard, you the man
D
My wife and I got in to Enterprise around 5:30 PM, and we passed near the meeting area, which was now being set up - in the exact spot we had our AFC meeting a little more than two weeks ago. We then waited near the main road to see who would have been bussed in as our activists have alleged. By 6 PM we did not notice any people being bussed and we went to the meeting area, given that it was supposed to start then.

At the meeting area, there was already a sizeable crowd. Not having thrown caution to the wind, we did not walk with a camera and quietly tried to make our way forward to better hear what was being said. In fact, that was our primary mission, since it is being constantly drawn to our attention that the PPP was uttering untruths about the AFC. And so we wanted to hear this for ourselves. As we got into the thickest part of the crowd, I was recognised and immediate shouts went up, the Key, the Key! Vote change! I was flabbergasted and asked those shouting not to get in to trouble and to give the PPP a chance to be heard. I could not believe I was uttering those words in PPP heartland...

Having made our way forward, not far from the stage area, was when I realised there were two distinct sections of the crowd. The one about 50 feet away to the south that I had just passed through, numbered around 50, and those in the immediate vicinity numbered around 40, including those who came with the speakers. In addition to the vehicles that the speakers came in, there was one mini-bus. About 45 minutes into the meeting another mini-bus turned up, adding about ten more PPP supporters to the 40 persons to the north. By that time the protest section had grown to around 60 persons.

The meeting got underway at 6:15 pm, and the first speaker, Neil Kumar, was heckled and booed and spoke for around ten minutes. Seeraj was also heckled, but not as much. He said that AFC stood for Alliance For Compromise/Confusion and that APNU meant A Parasite, Nasty and Ugly. He too spoke for about ten minutes.

At around 6:30 pm Anil Nandlall came on. He said Ramjattan was a racist, that he would take away jobs and seize lands from Indians if an AFC Gov't comes power, that he did not appreciate the qualified children of cane-cutters and rice farmers having jobs in the PPP Gov't. He also said that Ramjattan said he would shut down the sugar industry. For this he was roundly shouted down, Lie! Lie! In fact, I went into the protest section and asked them if they heard Ramjattan say that when he spoke at our meeting there. The sugar workers were very angry at this untruth. Not wanting to be accused of incitement, I went back to the front. At this time, I realised some of the persons I had earlier counted as PPP supporters were not, because they came up to me and voiced and nodded their disapproval of the PPP.

Nandlall continued his attacks on the AFC, tying Trotman to slow fiah, mo fiah, on the basis that Trotman was a member of the PNC at the time. Of course, he failed to mention that Trotman never took to the streets, and it was Trotman who asked the PNC to apologise for its past. He was booed while saying this. He went on to say the AFC was irresponsible and lacked experience. That only the PPP Gov't is in a position to pronounce on VAT, that the AFC is only making empty promises to reduce it. In effect he was saying that VAT would not be reduced under the PPP. At this point, someone shouted, Abee cyan eat road! Nandlall's speech focused otherwise on the difference in Guyana in 1964 to 1992, and said we have now levelled out, and will rise in the next 5 years, which again drew heckling.

Nandlall spoke for 45 minutes, with the protest crowd growing quiet toward the end - out of boredom my wife surmised. Buoyed by this, Nandlall told them that their silence meant that he was getting through to them, at which the very first set of applause from the PPP section was heard - this was some 10 minutes after the second mini-bus arrived, not having heard the loud protests from since the start. In response, Nandlall got the loudest shouts from the protest group, the PPP must go! We don't want to hear about 28 years! Tell us about the 19! Vote Key! Time for change! Thereafter he wrapped up and the meeting ended at 7:15 pm.

That was quite an experience for my wife and I, and she said had she not been there she would have found it hard to believe, even though she knows I would not have exaggerated. Had we known this would have happened we would have brought our camera. In fact my wife was insisting that we do, but I told her I didn't want to get into anything untoward, that we were there to listen and nothing else. No one in the AFC, including the leadership, knew of our mission tonight.
FM
I just spoke with my cousin in Enterprise; he told me that a few AFC/PNC goons, about fifteen of them were imported in a mini bus. The began by heckling the speakers but after a few minuets the massive crowd of PPP supporters started shouting back with loud laughter and lots of boos for the goons-“5 more years” –never again AFC/PNC rice flour. – We will always remember the missing sugar workers killed in Buxton by the goons. The AFC/PNC goons then hurriedly jumped in their mini van and dashed away in the darkness of the nightâ€Ķ..evidently they went home and started writing lies on the internet.
FM
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Originally posted by Dave Matrix:
I just spoke with my cousin in Enterprise; he told me that a few AFC/PNC goons, about fifteen of them were imported in a mini bus. The began by heckling the speakers but after a few minuets the massive crowd of PPP supporters started shouting back with loud laughter and lots of boos for the goons-“5 more years” –never again AFC/PNC rice flour. – We will always remember the missing sugar workers killed in Buxton by the goons. The AFC/PNC goons then hurriedly jumped in their mini van and dashed away in the darkness of the nightâ€Ķ..evidently they went home and started writing lies on the internet.
Dave Matrix you have no shame. I made phone calls during the meeting for persons to hear what was going on. I stand by what I have written here.
FM
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
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Originally posted by Dave Matrix:
I just spoke with my cousin in Enterprise; he told me that a few AFC/PNC goons, about fifteen of them were imported in a mini bus. The began by heckling the speakers but after a few minuets the massive crowd of PPP supporters started shouting back with loud laughter and lots of boos for the goons-“5 more years” –never again AFC/PNC rice flour. – We will always remember the missing sugar workers killed in Buxton by the goons. The AFC/PNC goons then hurriedly jumped in their mini van and dashed away in the darkness of the nightâ€Ķ..evidently they went home and started writing lies on the internet.
Dave Matrix you have no shame. I made phone calls during the meeting for persons to hear what was going on. I stand by what I have written here.


Two uncles; five cousins and my 65 years old grand father were all thereâ€Ķâ€ĶI believe them- they don’t lie
FM
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Originally posted by Dave Matrix:
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
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Originally posted by Dave Matrix:
I just spoke with my cousin in Enterprise; he told me that a few AFC/PNC goons, about fifteen of them were imported in a mini bus. The began by heckling the speakers but after a few minuets the massive crowd of PPP supporters started shouting back with loud laughter and lots of boos for the goons-“5 more years” –never again AFC/PNC rice flour. – We will always remember the missing sugar workers killed in Buxton by the goons. The AFC/PNC goons then hurriedly jumped in their mini van and dashed away in the darkness of the nightâ€Ķ..evidently they went home and started writing lies on the internet.
Dave Matrix you have no shame. I made phone calls during the meeting for persons to hear what was going on. I stand by what I have written here.


Two uncles; five cousins and my 65 years old grand father were all thereâ€Ķâ€ĶI believe them- they don’t lie
You post under an alias, I do not. Call Freedom House, let them go into Enterprise and interview the people, air it if they report what you have said.
FM
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
I am still processing what my wife and I witnessed this evening...our AFC activists for months have been telling us of low turnouts at PPP meetings...of heckling and so on...so tonight, we went for ourselves to see...

I am still in shock...never in my political experience from since a child, have I witnessed such a thing...a crowd, larger than those attending the meeting, comprised mostly of sugar workers, assembled some 50 feet away and booed, heckled and shouted down the three PPP speakers - Neil Kumar, Seeraj and Anil Nandlall. The crowd was vocal and fearless...like I said, I am still processing....

Okay, Gerhard, point taken.
The PPP organizers chose the wrong set of speakers for Enterprise.
Neil Kumar is not a sugar worker.
Seeraj is not connected to the sugar industry.
Anil Nandlall is not a sugar worker.
Enterprise people want sweet sugar people to address them.
Next time the Party sending Komal Chand and Navin. Then you gon see story.
Don't forget to walk with your camera and tape recorder, Gerhard. Smile
B
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Originally posted by Bookman:
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
I am still processing what my wife and I witnessed this evening...our AFC activists for months have been telling us of low turnouts at PPP meetings...of heckling and so on...so tonight, we went for ourselves to see...

I am still in shock...never in my political experience from since a child, have I witnessed such a thing...a crowd, larger than those attending the meeting, comprised mostly of sugar workers, assembled some 50 feet away and booed, heckled and shouted down the three PPP speakers - Neil Kumar, Seeraj and Anil Nandlall. The crowd was vocal and fearless...like I said, I am still processing....

Okay, Gerhard, point taken.
The PPP organizers chose the wrong set of speakers for Enterprise.
Neil Kumar is not a sugar worker.
Seeraj is not connected to the sugar industry.
Anil Nandlall is not a sugar worker.
Enterprise people want sweet sugar people to address them.
Next time the Party sending Komal Chand and Navin. Then you gon see story.
Don't forget to walk with your camera and tape recorder, Gerhard. Smile


Bookman you are wan old fool.

The PPP sent letters to Navin, Indra, Moses, Komal and Ralph telling them to come help but do not send in nomination forms.

Navin tell them tek the bird. OOP. Navin might get throw in jail for 2 weekss for his indiscretion to the King Kong.

Bookman, the man with a peanut brain.

VOTE Justice for All Party.
D
quote:
Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
I am still processing what my wife and I witnessed this evening...our AFC activists for months have been telling us of low turnouts at PPP meetings...of heckling and so on...so tonight, we went for ourselves to see...

I am still in shock...never in my political experience from since a child, have I witnessed such a thing...a crowd, larger than those attending the meeting, comprised mostly of sugar workers, assembled some 50 feet away and booed, heckled and shouted down the three PPP speakers - Neil Kumar, Seeraj and Anil Nandlall. The crowd was vocal and fearless...like I said, I am still processing....


Gerhard:

Thank you for such great information on the demise of the Kingdom of Kong (Mr Hughes words).

PPP = punishing sugar workers and the AFC will be offering sugar workers a lease of life with ethanol production.

PLUS - AFC WILL BE INCREASING ALL SALARIES INCLUDING SUGAR WORKERS SALARY BY 20%

the AFC will be reducing the PAYE from 33% to 25% and VAT from 16% to 12%.

Gerhard, this message all over the sugar belt and they can bring Komal Chand and all and they will still lose.

The people suffering too much in the Kingdom of Kong and King Kong lives and his henchmen and his political advisor, Mr QUACK QUACKlives its up on taxpayer's money.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
I am still processing what my wife and I witnessed this evening...our AFC activists for months have been telling us of low turnouts at PPP meetings...of heckling and so on...so tonight, we went for ourselves to see...

I am still in shock...never in my political experience from since a child, have I witnessed such a thing...a crowd, larger than those attending the meeting, comprised mostly of sugar workers, assembled some 50 feet away and booed, heckled and shouted down the three PPP speakers - Neil Kumar, Seeraj and Anil Nandlall. The crowd was vocal and fearless...like I said, I am still processing....

ill believe this when i see th video
FM
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Originally posted by Dharry:
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Originally posted by Bookman:
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
I am still processing what my wife and I witnessed this evening...our AFC activists for months have been telling us of low turnouts at PPP meetings...of heckling and so on...so tonight, we went for ourselves to see...

I am still in shock...never in my political experience from since a child, have I witnessed such a thing...a crowd, larger than those attending the meeting, comprised mostly of sugar workers, assembled some 50 feet away and booed, heckled and shouted down the three PPP speakers - Neil Kumar, Seeraj and Anil Nandlall. The crowd was vocal and fearless...like I said, I am still processing....

Okay, Gerhard, point taken.
The PPP organizers chose the wrong set of speakers for Enterprise.
Neil Kumar is not a sugar worker.
Seeraj is not connected to the sugar industry.
Anil Nandlall is not a sugar worker.
Enterprise people want sweet sugar people to address them.
Next time the Party sending Komal Chand and Navin. Then you gon see story.
Don't forget to walk with your camera and tape recorder, Gerhard. Smile


Bookman you are wan old fool.

The PPP sent letters to Navin, Indra, Moses, Komal and Ralph telling them to come help but do not send in nomination forms.

Navin tell them tek the bird. OOP. Navin might get throw in jail for 2 weekss for his indiscretion to the King Kong.

Bookman, the man with a peanut brain.

VOTE Justice for All Party.
Dharry, welcome to the board. However, political differences notwithstanding, please avoid referring to Bookman in this manner.
FM
Gerhard says:
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Dharry, welcome to the board. However, political differences notwithstanding, please avoid referring to Bookman in this manner.

Gerhard, thank you for your intervention.
I assure you, however, that I'm not losing sleep over Mr/Mrs/Miss Dharry's rudeness, disrespect and mysterious hostility.
In all graciousness, I force myself to believe he/she knows not what he/she says, neither knows he/she an iota of truth about me.
Already, he/she has described me as the most unintelligent poster, a dunce, and an old fool.
Far from being annoyed, I told him/her thanks for the adjectives pinned on me.
By Mr/Mrs/Miss Dharry's past, present and future comments he/she will be judged by my fellow GNI posters and the administrator who I hope is observing everything.
I worry not, nor do I care.
B
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Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
My wife and I got in to Enterprise around 5:30 PM, and we passed near the meeting area, which was now being set up - in the exact spot we had our AFC meeting a little more than two weeks ago. We then waited near the main road to see who would have been bussed in as our activists have alleged. By 6 PM we did not notice any people being bussed and we went to the meeting area, given that it was supposed to start then.

At the meeting area, there was already a sizeable crowd. Not having thrown caution to the wind, we did not walk with a camera and quietly tried to make our way forward to better hear what was being said. In fact, that was our primary mission, since it is being constantly drawn to our attention that the PPP was uttering untruths about the AFC. And so we wanted to hear this for ourselves. As we got into the thickest part of the crowd, I was recognised and immediate shouts went up, the Key, the Key! Vote change! I was flabbergasted and asked those shouting not to get in to trouble and to give the PPP a chance to be heard. I could not believe I was uttering those words in PPP heartland...

Having made our way forward, not far from the stage area, was when I realised there were two distinct sections of the crowd. The one about 50 feet away to the south that I had just passed through, numbered around 50, and those in the immediate vicinity numbered around 40, including those who came with the speakers. In addition to the vehicles that the speakers came in, there was one mini-bus. About 45 minutes into the meeting another mini-bus turned up, adding about ten more PPP supporters to the 40 persons to the north. By that time the protest section had grown to around 60 persons.

The meeting got underway at 6:15 pm, and the first speaker, Neil Kumar, was heckled and booed and spoke for around ten minutes. Seeraj was also heckled, but not as much. He said that AFC stood for Alliance For Compromise/Confusion and that APNU meant A Parasite, Nasty and Ugly. He too spoke for about ten minutes.

At around 6:30 pm Anil Nandlall came on. He said Ramjattan was a racist, that he would take away jobs and seize lands from Indians if an AFC Gov't comes power, that he did not appreciate the qualified children of cane-cutters and rice farmers having jobs in the PPP Gov't. He also said that Ramjattan said he would shut down the sugar industry. For this he was roundly shouted down, Lie! Lie! In fact, I went into the protest section and asked them if they heard Ramjattan say that when he spoke at our meeting there. The sugar workers were very angry at this untruth. Not wanting to be accused of incitement, I went back to the front. At this time, I realised some of the persons I had earlier counted as PPP supporters were not, because they came up to me and voiced and nodded their disapproval of the PPP.

Nandlall continued his attacks on the AFC, tying Trotman to slow fiah, mo fiah, on the basis that Trotman was a member of the PNC at the time. Of course, he failed to mention that Trotman never took to the streets, and it was Trotman who asked the PNC to apologise for its past. He was booed while saying this. He went on to say the AFC was irresponsible and lacked experience. That only the PPP Gov't is in a position to pronounce on VAT, that the AFC is only making empty promises to reduce it. In effect he was saying that VAT would not be reduced under the PPP. At this point, someone shouted, Abee cyan eat road! Nandlall's speech focused otherwise on the difference in Guyana in 1964 to 1992, and said we have now levelled out, and will rise in the next 5 years, which again drew heckling.

Nandlall spoke for 45 minutes, with the protest crowd growing quiet toward the end - out of boredom my wife surmised. Buoyed by this, Nandlall told them that their silence meant that he was getting through to them, at which the very first set of applause from the PPP section was heard - this was some 10 minutes after the second mini-bus arrived, not having heard the loud protests from since the start. In response, Nandlall got the loudest shouts from the protest group, the PPP must go! We don't want to hear about 28 years! Tell us about the 19! Vote Key! Time for change! Thereafter he wrapped up and the meeting ended at 7:15 pm.

That was quite an experience for my wife and I, and she said had she not been there she would have found it hard to believe, even though she knows I would not have exaggerated. Had we known this would have happened we would have brought our camera. In fact my wife was insisting that we do, but I told her I didn't want to get into anything untoward, that we were there to listen and nothing else. No one in the AFC, including the leadership, knew of our mission tonight.

I have no cause to disbelieve Gerhard here. He has nothing to gain by creating a piece of fiction.
So, what happened at Enterprise last night should be a wake-up call to the PPP hierarchy. Something is definitely going awry.
Enterprise was the place I attended my first PYO Congress 41 years ago. Enterprise was the place I attended a PPP Congress too. Enterprise was one of the places where I spoke at a PPP public meeting in the 1980s. Absolutely no heckling there. Mammoth crowd. Big enthusiastic applause for all the PPP speakers, including myself. The only downside is that I didn't get a mala around my neck. Wink
Having regard to Gerhard's report on that appalling meeting last night, the PPP planners and organizers need to get back to the drawing board urgently and win back the affection of traditional PPP supporters in Enterprise.
B

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