ksazma posted:

Django posted:

ksazma posted:

Django posted:

 

The question is what is a majority of 65 members.

https://study.com/academy/less...ion-system-rule.html

Take a look at video on link above.

The same majority that was used to place the Coalition in government. The same majority that allowed them to give themselves a 50% pay raise even before that started any real work. The same majority that facilitated the other budgets including the one passed recently. What was that majority my brother? 

I am not doubting brother, just asking.

Case closed found it ,see attachment

Cool. Now can you help me with why I am getting that Not secure message and how I can fix it? Thanks. 

The No Secure message means Amral and management of this website did not pay for a site lock, every users is vulnerable.... see details 

Online Security: SiteLock

Dave posted:

Tola posted:

Dave posted:

Tola posted:

Does Jagdeo know what resignation means : to leave a job or office posting.

If the government should 'resign' , who will be in charge  ?

How de rass they could  resign, leave their jobs and still have a caretaker responsibility ?

Jagdeo sounds like Trump, a one man show.  Guyana is indeed a cowbhai country.   

Unless you understand the constitution you will NEVER understand what Jagdeo is saying.

(Article 106 :6) and the holding of an election within three months or such longer period supported by resolution by not less than two thirds of the votes of elected members (Articles 106 :07), during which time the government remains in office and shall resign after the President takes office following the election (Article 106 :07).

No one, not even the President denies that the cabinet has lost the confidence of the house.

The constitution says that when this happens, the cabinet including the President, must step down and call new elections.

The President can only remain in office heading a caretaker government after resignation provided also that elections are called. If elections are not called as required by the constitution then the government is unlawful and illegitimate and unconstitutional and has no power to prorogue parliament or to do anything, for that matter, that is not in the nature of caretaking until the next president is sworn in.

The President has lost confidence in the house and he has acknowledged this.

Whenever he loses that confidence he must resign and call new elections and heads a caretaker government awaiting the results of the elections. 

Thats what the Burnham constitution dictates, which needs to be overhaul. 

Thanks Dave.

I understand that the no confidence was accepted by all, but  I see the term 'resignation' as leaving a job or office posting.    My understand of the defined tern resignation is leaving a job permanently and not having any more responsibility regarding that job. 

If the tern 'resignation'  is leaving a position permanently, how could anyone be asked to so something afterwards, regarding the same job.

I understand the meaning of the no confidence, but I still cant see the term resignation used correctly here. Because a person cant be told to resign, but still asked to stay in a working capacity.

I don't understand the political purpose of this 'resignation'. Because an election  will eventually be held and APNU might lose.

The last part of the constitution you quoted indicated that 'the government remains in office and shall resign AFTER the president takes office FOLLOWING the election'.   

 

Good question Tola , about the definition of a resignation . However, The Constitution of Guyana clearly and unambiguously demands the resignation of the cabinet including the President once they have lost the confidence of the majority of the elected members of the National Assembly.

Thanks Dave. I know this part of the constitution and understand what Jagdeo is trying to do, but I have difficulty with the term  'resignation'. 

In that case Dave, I will consult my lawyers to see if Amral has any culpability. 

I man using Linux OS, don't have to worry about Malware and Antivirus software.

Windows packaged with it's own Anti Virus Software.

ksazma posted:

In that case Dave, I will consult my lawyers to see if Amral has any culpability. 

Tola posted:

 

Thanks Dave. I know this part of the constitution and understand what Jagdeo is trying to do, but I have difficulty with the term  'resignation'. 

Resignation is when Election Date is set by the Government.

Django posted:

I man using Linux OS, don't have to worry about Malware and Antivirus software.

Windows packaged with it's own Anti Virus Software.

I ain't that sophisticated bai. I use Microsoft Edge and sometimes use IE. 

My kids have apple macbooks. They don't need antivirus. I prefer my regular laptop. 

Django posted:

yuji22 posted:

Eh Eh, DJ still clutching to straws and peddling PNC voodoo mathematics. Bai you na got no shame ?

Banna give a rest, real men don't use the word "shame"

There are ambiguities in computation a majority when there are odd numbers, hence my questions.

Anyway answers are found, see my post there is an attachment.

YUJI must destroy more lives around him, than he saved  and  must have the worse friggin personal life.

I have seen some negative people in the world, but he is the worse. His attitude is the worse thing for attracting votes for the PPP. The PPP got some bad eggs, but he topped the list.   

Django posted:

Resignation is when Election Date is set by the Government.

Slight correction ...

Resignation is when the NEW government is being sworn in.

Note ...

Election date is set within the designated three months' period.

"Old" government remains in power as care-taker for the election.

New government takes over after the election.

Tola posted:

Dave posted:

Tola posted:

Dave posted:

Tola posted:

Does Jagdeo know what resignation means : to leave a job or office posting.

If the government should 'resign' , who will be in charge  ?

How de rass they could  resign, leave their jobs and still have a caretaker responsibility ?

Jagdeo sounds like Trump, a one man show.  Guyana is indeed a cowbhai country.   

Unless you understand the constitution you will NEVER understand what Jagdeo is saying.

(Article 106 :6) and the holding of an election within three months or such longer period supported by resolution by not less than two thirds of the votes of elected members (Articles 106 :07), during which time the government remains in office and shall resign after the President takes office following the election (Article 106 :07).

No one, not even the President denies that the cabinet has lost the confidence of the house.

The constitution says that when this happens, the cabinet including the President, must step down and call new elections.

The President can only remain in office heading a caretaker government after resignation provided also that elections are called. If elections are not called as required by the constitution then the government is unlawful and illegitimate and unconstitutional and has no power to prorogue parliament or to do anything, for that matter, that is not in the nature of caretaking until the next president is sworn in.

The President has lost confidence in the house and he has acknowledged this.

Whenever he loses that confidence he must resign and call new elections and heads a caretaker government awaiting the results of the elections. 

Thats what the Burnham constitution dictates, which needs to be overhaul. 

Thanks Dave.

I understand that the no confidence was accepted by all, but  I see the term 'resignation' as leaving a job or office posting.    My understand of the defined tern resignation is leaving a job permanently and not having any more responsibility regarding that job. 

If the tern 'resignation'  is leaving a position permanently, how could anyone be asked to so something afterwards, regarding the same job.

I understand the meaning of the no confidence, but I still cant see the term resignation used correctly here. Because a person cant be told to resign, but still asked to stay in a working capacity.

I don't understand the political purpose of this 'resignation'. Because an election  will eventually be held and APNU might lose.

The last part of the constitution you quoted indicated that 'the government remains in office and shall resign AFTER the president takes office FOLLOWING the election'.   

 

Good question Tola , about the definition of a resignation . However, The Constitution of Guyana clearly and unambiguously demands the resignation of the cabinet including the President once they have lost the confidence of the majority of the elected members of the National Assembly.

Thanks Dave. I know this part of the constitution and understand what Jagdeo is trying to do, but I have difficulty with the term  'resignation'. 

The government is a “care taker government “ someone has to make sure Education, Health and security is provided for its citizens.

Demerara_Guy posted:

Django posted:

Resignation is when Election Date is set by the Government.

Slight correction ...

Resignation is when the NEW government is being sworn in.

Note ...

Election date is set within the designated three months' period.

"Old" government remains in power as care-taker for the election.

New government takes over after the election.

Thanks for the correction.

Django posted:

Demerara_Guy posted:

Django posted:

Demerara_Guy posted:

Guyana Constitution ...

Specific sections

Section 106(6)

The cabinet, including the President shall resign if the government is defeated by the vote of a majority of all the elected members of the National Assembly on a vote of confidence”.

Section 106(7)

NOTWITHSTANDING its defeat, the government shall remain in office and shall hold an election within three months, or such longer period as the National Assembly shall by resolution supported by not less than two thirds of the votes of all the elected members of the National Assembly, determine and shall resign after the President takes the oath of office following the election”.

The question is what is a majority of 65 members.

https://study.com/academy/less...ion-system-rule.html

Take a look at video on link above.

Members of Parliament -- Guyana.

Dealing with people who are individuals, not other things which can be reduced to fractions like, quarter, half, three-quarter, etc., etc., etc..

65 members of parliament.

33 APNU/PNCR/AFC members and 32 PPPC members.

33 voted YES and 32 voted NO for the motion.

Which is the greater number ... 33 ... or ... 32 ???

No more arguments, my curiosity answered.

See attachment.

Django, like you get your information from reading The Onion newspaper.
Saw it once taking my family for breakfast. Paper has a lot of far-fetched nonsense. 

Django posted:

Demerara_Guy posted:

Guyana Constitution ...

Specific sections

Section 106(6)

The cabinet, including the President shall resign if the government is defeated by the vote of a majority of all the elected members of the National Assembly on a vote of confidence”.

Section 106(7)

NOTWITHSTANDING its defeat, the government shall remain in office and shall hold an election within three months, or such longer period as the National Assembly shall by resolution supported by not less than two thirds of the votes of all the elected members of the National Assembly, determine and shall resign after the President takes the oath of office following the election”.

The question is what is a majority of 65 members.

https://study.com/academy/less...ion-system-rule.html

Take a look at video on link above.

This is simple mathematics. The majority of 65 members is 33. What Mr. Nigel Hughes is referring to is when you have an even number of elected members in the parliament. His conclusion is highly flawed. 

Let the Guyanese electorate decide on who they wish to govern them.

skeldon_man posted:

 

Django, like you get your information from reading The Onion newspaper.
Saw it once taking my family for breakfast. Paper has a lot of far-fetched nonsense. 

http://agparliamentarians.com/free/VCP1.doc

What you talking about the above.

BGMAN posted:

 

This is simple mathematics. The majority of 65 members is 33. What Mr. Nigel Hughes is referring to is when you have an even number of elected members in the parliament. His conclusion is highly flawed. 

Let the Guyanese electorate decide on who they wish to govern them.

determinevote.pdf

You are correct, the above confirms for majority.

New buzz word flying around Absolute Majority.

Django posted:

BGMAN posted:

 

This is simple mathematics. The majority of 65 members is 33. What Mr. Nigel Hughes is referring to is when you have an even number of elected members in the parliament. His conclusion is highly flawed. 

Let the Guyanese electorate decide on who they wish to govern them.

determinevote.pdf

You are correct, the above confirms for majority.

New buzz word flying around Absolute Majority.

Did the coalition had ABSLOUTE MAJORITY to form a government in 2015? 

This government is not an ABSOLUTE MAJORITY government so they are INVALID 

March 19th, 2019 is the last day the coalition can remain in Gov’t.

Jagdeo is just being a preening jackass for the ignar gallery perfecting their shakeabatty

read Section 106(7) and look at where it deals with “resign”

but none of this matters to the herd and the scampmen leading them

these are the times when posers get ‘brave’ and show their leprous hands

Demerara_Guy posted:

Django posted:

Resignation is when Election Date is set by the Government.

Slight correction ...

Resignation is when the NEW government is being sworn in.

Note ...

Election date is set within the designated three months' period.

"Old" government remains in power as care-taker for the election.

New government takes over after the election.

Thanks D_G, your reply is my point regarding 'resignation'.

I believe this scenario  should unfold in the following manner.....

- The no condolence vote is successful and the existing government falls.

- The existing government acts as 'caretaker' and sets an election date, within 90 days. 

- AFTER the election, the old government 'resigns' and the new government is sworn in. 

Previously discussed : How could  you 'resign' and still hold that position ? 

GNI is like Guyana politics, the illiterate herd can easily be influenced. 

Tola posted:

Demerara_Guy posted:

Django posted:

Resignation is when Election Date is set by the Government.

Slight correction ...

Resignation is when the NEW government is being sworn in.

Note ...

Election date is set within the designated three months' period.

"Old" government remains in power as care-taker for the election.

New government takes over after the election.

Thanks D_G, your reply is my point regarding 'resignation'.

I believe this scenario  should unfold in the following manner.....

- The no condolence vote is successful and the existing government falls.

- The existing government acts as 'caretaker' and sets an election date, within 90 days. 

- AFTER the election, the old government 'resigns' and the new government is sworn in. 

Previously discussed : How could  you 'resign' and still hold that position ? 

GNI is like Guyana politics, the illiterate herd can easily be influenced. 

 

The fraudulent Burnham constitution clearly states that if a government loses a no confidence motion, the government resigns and new elections are held within ninety days. ... It is also a constitutional edict in Guyana. The President and PM and the entire cabinet should have resigned already.

When the government resigns, it is just a care taker government until election. 

Hey hey hey...

Dave posted:

Tola posted:

Demerara_Guy posted:

Django posted:

Resignation is when Election Date is set by the Government.

Slight correction ...

Resignation is when the NEW government is being sworn in.

Note ...

Election date is set within the designated three months' period.

"Old" government remains in power as care-taker for the election.

New government takes over after the election.

Thanks D_G, your reply is my point regarding 'resignation'.

I believe this scenario  should unfold in the following manner.....

- The no condolence vote is successful and the existing government falls.

- The existing government acts as 'caretaker' and sets an election date, within 90 days. 

- AFTER the election, the old government 'resigns' and the new government is sworn in. 

Previously discussed : How could  you 'resign' and still hold that position ? 

GNI is like Guyana politics, the illiterate herd can easily be influenced. 

 

The fraudulent Burnham constitution clearly states that if a government loses a no confidence motion, the government resigns and new elections are held within ninety days. ... It is also a constitutional edict in Guyana. The President and PM and the entire cabinet should have resigned already.

 

When the government resigns, it is just a care taker government until election. 

Dave, it would seem that different people's  interpret the constitution differently.

Similar to D_G, I understand the last part of the constitution you posted, to mean the government will resign while the new government is being swore in. 

Burnham might have designed the constitution to benefit himself and I personally feel APNU might also use it to their benefit.

No one wants to give up a government easily, especially  the PNC/AFC and I believe they might use the constitution's ambiguity to create a delay. 

If they were so nasty with Charrandaas, anything could happen.  

Bibi Haniffa posted:

March 19th, 2019 is the last day the coalition can remain in Gov’t.

Not necessarily so.

If an extension to the three month period is granted by at least two-thirds of the MPs, then the period is extended by the added time.

“What legal options? You have failed on a no-confidence motion, You have to resign. There are no legal options to explore,” Jagdeo told reporters shortly after a PPP Executive Committee meeting.

Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo and Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo.

Jagdeo, who is also the PPP’s General Secretary, said his party has learnt that the government was exploring six options to challenge the constitutionality of the no-confidence motion. 

http://demerarawaves.com/2018/...o-confidence-motion/

Despite what Jagdeo feels, there are legal options available and the government is well within their rights to explore legal avenues. When the PPP lost, they challenged the elections ruling in court. Similarly, APNU/AFC can mount a legal challenge against the No Confidence Motion. I don't think that the 34 seat majority argument is a valid one but that's not the only grounds available to make an appeal to the courts. Meanwhile all parties should prepare for the mother of all elections. 

Tola posted:

 

If the government should 'resign' , who will be in charge  ?

How de rass they could  resign, leave their jobs and still have a caretaker responsibility ?

 

Jagdeo will be in charge of course. 

Here is his scenario. He screams that the executive arm of the gov't resigns. He ignores the fact that as parliament is suspended, so is his position as leader of the opposition. He doesnt tell the PPP idiots that on 12/29/2018 Jagdeo is now as ordinary a citizen as the drunk man in the gutter.

Having abandoned their posts, because they resigned, Jagdeo then charges in to "rescue" Guyana from this incompetent Coalition which are derelict in their duties.

Jagdeo then calls the elections and promptly rigs it.

That is Jagdeo's story but I done peep he card so he cyant fool me!