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"The AFC’s showing attracted interest as it was meant to compete with the opposition PPP/C on the Corentyne and West Berbice. The AFC, however, suffered heavy defeats in these areas. The AFC’s performance has also drawn public attention as its leadership asserted that it had maintained its showing at around 10% of the national vote. This is not so as it gained only 4% of the total vote though its percentage from the 27 Local Authority Areas it contested in was around 8%.

The party contested in 27 of the 78 LAAs which have had their results announced. In those 27 LAAs, a total of 108,790 PR votes were cast and the AFC captured 8% of that number. The PPP/C was able to secure 49% of the votes cast in these areas, while APNU secured 42%.

The strongest showing from the party was recorded in the Kwakwani LAA, where it secured 25% of votes cast and one of four PR seats. In Linden, 21% of those who cast valid ballots selected the AFC, granting the fledgling party two of eight PR seats. Similarly, in Mocha/Arcadia, 22% of votes cast saw the party awarded one of six PR seats.In total, of the 596 PR seats available, the AFC secured 14 or 2%. Three of the 596

Table showing the total number of votes cast for each party list in the 27 Local Authority Areas where the AFC contested.

FPTP seats available were also snapped up by AFC candidates Orvil August and Natasha Mohamed in Constituencies 4 and 5 of Kwakwani, and Amanda Solomon in Constituency 4 of Mahdia.

Notably, Solomon was not challenged and therefore won via No Contest, while Mohamed secured the same number of votes as Petranella Pollard of Kwakwani United for Progress (KUFP). When lots were drawn to break the tie, Mohamed emerged victor."

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The 4% is net of the total votes cast.

The AFC contested 27 LAA, got 8% of the votes,  the same 27 LAA,APNU 42% and PPP 49% of total of 108,790 PR votes cast.

This is the real stats,

53 LAA the AFC didn't contest.

Django
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Gilbakka posted:

The LGE has proved that the AFC is a 4% party. Yet AFC leaders insist it is a 10% party. When will their deception and self-delusion end?

Wrong,please look at the stats of the General Elections from 2006.

At the LGE  Elections the AFC is a 8% Party, they have only contested 27 of LAA.

Django
Gilbakka posted:

President Granger's PNC wanted to prove that the AFC lost support since 2015 and GECOM has confirmed it. 

Look at the areas contested, you will get the picture.The AFC lost some support in PPP strongholds, that loss is not surmountable gain for the PPP to win general elections.

Tell them fellas at Freedom House to go back to the drawing board.The propaganda won't work.

Django
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Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Why didn't the AFC contest 53 LAA?

Perhaps there is nothing to gain, will look further in to areas and give my view.

Django, you were crowing like a rooster about the LGE and PPP not holding them as scheduled. Now that the PNC conducted an LGE, you start your mantra that it is not the general election. Where are you heading? Why an LGE when it's almost insignificant? A 4% is 4%. AFC manipulated the statistics to camouflage their poor showing. Let the AFC accept defeat and move on. They are not even a 5% party. Let them take the next night bus and escape out of town.

FM

DJ said wait for the GECOM report, actually it is more dire than before, we were prepared to give the AFC 10% Party Status but they dropped to 4% status. If votes were counted overseas then AFC would move a notch .

 The question why the AFC did not contest in many areas, one ,they could not find candidates and what would they campaign be, the PNC not doing a good job and they can do better. They failed in their regular strong holds.

K

Why are these statistics significant? Do they accrue to a different PPP from the kleptocracy that had Guyana in it's thrall for 2 and a 1/2 decades? Have they shown anyone that they have changed or are we simply counting sheep here?

 

FM
D2 posted:

Why are these statistics significant? Do they accrue to a different PPP from the kleptocracy that had Guyana in it's thrall for 2 and a 1/2 decades? Have they shown anyone that they have changed or are we simply counting sheep here?

 

How can you expect change if they are not given a second chance yet. 

I am sure they have recognized their mistakes and have began that process by extending their arm to their enemies... that’s step # 1

FM
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Why didn't the AFC contest 53 LAA?

Perhaps there is nothing to gain, will look further in to areas and give my view.

You cannot sit behind a keyboard and know all the details, who you fooling.

Will believe in your facts if you spend time in the country and listen to everyone views first hand. 

FM
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

President Granger's PNC wanted to prove that the AFC lost support since 2015 and GECOM has confirmed it. 

Look at the areas contested, you will get the picture.The AFC lost some support in PPP strongholds, that loss is not surmountable gain for the PPP to win general elections.

Tell them fellas at Freedom House to go back to the drawing board.The propaganda won't work.

Dude, when will you get it, Freedom House don’t need your advice. They did something correct to win .. right 

You need to advise Congress Place Of their mistake NOT Freedom House. 

FM
D2 posted:

Why are these statistics significant? Do they accrue to a different PPP from the kleptocracy that had Guyana in it's thrall for 2 and a 1/2 decades? Have they shown anyone that they have changed or are we simply counting sheep here?

 

The PNC 28 years of dictatorship must have been a utopia in Guyana.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Why didn't the AFC contest 53 LAA?

Perhaps there is nothing to gain, will look further in to areas and give my view.

Django, you were crowing like a rooster about the LGE and PPP not holding them as scheduled. Now that the PNC conducted an LGE, you start your mantra that it is not the general election. Where are you heading? Why an LGE when it's almost insignificant? A 4% is 4%. AFC manipulated the statistics to camouflage their poor showing. Let the AFC accept defeat and move on. They are not even a 5% party. Let them take the next night bus and escape out of town.

That's the PPP wish, sorry they will be around to be the check mate.At the least the PPP didn't complain the last two LGE was rigged, they are winning at the local level.Regarding why the AFC didn't contest the 57 LAA, one have to look deeper.

I mentioned many times LGE is good for local democracy, it gives the people power in the low tier administration.When one understand the differences of voting methods and constituency seats used in  LGE and General Elections, the picture becomes clearer. Winning LGE doesn't guarantee winning GE.

Django
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Why didn't the AFC contest 53 LAA?

Perhaps there is nothing to gain, will look further in to areas and give my view.

Django, you were crowing like a rooster about the LGE and PPP not holding them as scheduled. Now that the PNC conducted an LGE, you start your mantra that it is not the general election. Where are you heading? Why an LGE when it's almost insignificant? A 4% is 4%. AFC manipulated the statistics to camouflage their poor showing. Let the AFC accept defeat and move on. They are not even a 5% party. Let them take the next night bus and escape out of town.

That's the PPP wish, sorry they will be around to be the check mate.At the least the PPP didn't complain the last two LGE was rigged, they are winning at the local level.Regarding why the AFC didn't contest the 57 LAA, one have to look deeper.

I mentioned many times LGE is good for local democracy, it gives the people power in the low tier administration.When one understand the differences of voting methods and constituency seats used in  LGE and General Elections, the picture becomes clearer. Winning LGE doesn't guarantee winning GE.

Dude, you can't be serious.

FM
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

President Granger's PNC wanted to prove that the AFC lost support since 2015 and GECOM has confirmed it. 

Look at the areas contested, you will get the picture.The AFC lost some support in PPP strongholds, that loss is not surmountable gain for the PPP to win general elections.

Tell them fellas at Freedom House to go back to the drawing board.The propaganda won't work.

Dude, when will you get it, Freedom House don’t need your advice. They did something correct to win .. right 

You need to advise Congress Place Of their mistake NOT Freedom House. 

My views are mine, it's no to advise any one or party. What huge win you are talking about ? you are like kp don't understand the Elections.

Django
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Why didn't the AFC contest 53 LAA?

Perhaps there is nothing to gain, will look further in to areas and give my view.

Django, you were crowing like a rooster about the LGE and PPP not holding them as scheduled. Now that the PNC conducted an LGE, you start your mantra that it is not the general election. Where are you heading? Why an LGE when it's almost insignificant? A 4% is 4%. AFC manipulated the statistics to camouflage their poor showing. Let the AFC accept defeat and move on. They are not even a 5% party. Let them take the next night bus and escape out of town.

That's the PPP wish, sorry they will be around to be the check mate.At the least the PPP didn't complain the last two LGE was rigged, they are winning at the local level.Regarding why the AFC didn't contest the 57 LAA, one have to look deeper.

I mentioned many times LGE is good for local democracy, it gives the people power in the low tier administration.When one understand the differences of voting methods and constituency seats used in  LGE and General Elections, the picture becomes clearer. Winning LGE doesn't guarantee winning GE.

Dude, you can't be serious.

Who manages the Local Authority ?

Django
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

President Granger's PNC wanted to prove that the AFC lost support since 2015 and GECOM has confirmed it. 

Look at the areas contested, you will get the picture.The AFC lost some support in PPP strongholds, that loss is not surmountable gain for the PPP to win general elections.

Tell them fellas at Freedom House to go back to the drawing board.The propaganda won't work.

Dude, when will you get it, Freedom House don’t need your advice. They did something correct to win .. right 

You need to advise Congress Place Of their mistake NOT Freedom House. 

Then the man is going to ask for a pay raise.

FM
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Why didn't the AFC contest 53 LAA?

Perhaps there is nothing to gain, will look further in to areas and give my view.

You cannot sit behind a keyboard and know all the details, who you fooling.

Will believe in your facts if you spend time in the country and listen to everyone views first hand. 

When one have data on the LAA and demographics,it's easy to find out, taking into consideration the population leanings towards political parties.

Django
skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

President Granger's PNC wanted to prove that the AFC lost support since 2015 and GECOM has confirmed it. 

Look at the areas contested, you will get the picture.The AFC lost some support in PPP strongholds, that loss is not surmountable gain for the PPP to win general elections.

Tell them fellas at Freedom House to go back to the drawing board.The propaganda won't work.

Dude, when will you get it, Freedom House don’t need your advice. They did something correct to win .. right 

You need to advise Congress Place Of their mistake NOT Freedom House. 

Then the man is going to ask for a pay raise.

Ha..ha.. my contributions here are free and it's for fun,hanging out with you guys on the net.There are my views and aren't advising any political parties.

Django
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@Django

True, winning LGE doesn't guarantee winning GE. But it is a morale booster, having a positive psychological impact on PPP supporters, reinforcing hope for victory in less than 2 years from now. The PPP has to sustain the momentum though. No complacency now.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

@Django

True, winning LGE doesn't guarantee winning GE. But it is a morale booster, having a positive psychological impact on PPP supporters, reinforcing hope for victory in less than 2 years from now. The PPP has to sustain the momentum though. No complacency now.

Exactly, thank you for being truthful.

Django

I wouldn't read too much into the results when 64% of the populace did not vote. Winning 61% of 36% is nothing to trumpet about since the APNU+AFC controls the purse. 

36% participation is any election is no real measurement of the likely hood results of a General Election.

One thing for sure is that there is definitely a need for a third force.

 

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:

I wouldn't read too much into the results when 64% of the populace did not vote. Winning 61% of 36% is nothing to trumpet about since the APNU+AFC controls the purse. 

36% participation is any election is no real measurement of the likely hood results of a General Election.

One thing for sure is that there is definitely a need for a third force.

 

An independent and effective third force.

FM
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

@Django

True, winning LGE doesn't guarantee winning GE. But it is a morale booster, having a positive psychological impact on PPP supporters, reinforcing hope for victory in less than 2 years from now. The PPP has to sustain the momentum though. No complacency now.

Exactly, thank you for being truthful.

Well said Gilly. Hope the PPP build on that momentum and select its leader for the 2020 GE. 

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:

I wouldn't read too much into the results when 64% of the populace did not vote. Winning 61% of 36% is nothing to trumpet about since the APNU+AFC controls the purse. 

36% participation is any election is no real measurement of the likely hood results of a General Election.

One thing for sure is that there is definitely a need for a third force.

 

APNU+AFC controls the purse. 

Yet they can't buy victory at the LGE, they look prapa stupid.

K
skeldon_man posted:
Mitwah posted:

I wouldn't read too much into the results when 64% of the populace did not vote. Winning 61% of 36% is nothing to trumpet about since the APNU+AFC controls the purse. 

36% participation is any election is no real measurement of the likely hood results of a General Election.

One thing for sure is that there is definitely a need for a third force.

 

An independent and effective third force.

This can happen if the constitution is changed to allow the formation of the coalition after the elections.

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:

I wouldn't read too much into the results when 64% of the populace did not vote. Winning 61% of 36% is nothing to trumpet about since the APNU+AFC controls the purse. 

36% participation is any election is no real measurement of the likely hood results of a General Election.

One thing for sure is that there is definitely a need for a third force.

I would be careful dismissing these results.  The fact that the PNC failed to get their people motivated is telling.  If they fail to do this in the GE, them goose cook.  Jagdeo will bring out the PPP base regardless who the ticket is. He IS the PPP, make no mistake. 

The PNC geriatric brigade does not have an equivalent. Seems Harmon trying to take on this role but thus far, little!

The PNC needs a CaribJ!!

Baseman
Gilbakka posted:

@Django

True, winning LGE doesn't guarantee winning GE. But it is a morale booster, having a positive psychological impact on PPP supporters, reinforcing hope for victory in less than 2 years from now. The PPP has to sustain the momentum though. No complacency now.

When the AFC/PNC says winning the LGE does not guarantee winning at the general election, it tell me they are banking heavily on RIGGING to guarantee the win at the GE.

K
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Mitwah posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

@Django

True, winning LGE doesn't guarantee winning GE. But it is a morale booster, having a positive psychological impact on PPP supporters, reinforcing hope for victory in less than 2 years from now. The PPP has to sustain the momentum though. No complacency now.

Exactly, thank you for being truthful.

Well said Gilly. Hope the PPP build on that momentum and select its leader for the 2020 GE. 

A new leader there will be. But I want the party to retain the services of Bharrat Jagdeo as its Energizer battery. Still going strong as the LGE result shows.

FM
Mitwah posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Mitwah posted:

I wouldn't read too much into the results when 64% of the populace did not vote. Winning 61% of 36% is nothing to trumpet about since the APNU+AFC controls the purse. 

36% participation is any election is no real measurement of the likely hood results of a General Election.

One thing for sure is that there is definitely a need for a third force.

 

An independent and effective third force.

This can happen if the constitution is changed to allow the formation of the coalition after the elections.

In Guyana, this will cause chaos. The majority party will seize power and expel the minority party as the PNC did to the UF. It was good the PNC and the AFC formed a coalition. However, the AFC was not independent or effective as it promised. This was a complete failure given the promises of the AFC. They suffered in the LGE

FM
skeldon_man posted:

WHY WAS THERE SO MUCH HYPE ABOUT THE LGE? IS IT A NOTHING BURGER NOW THAT THE RULING PARTY LOST?

Granger's illness might have been a contributing factor for the low turn out in its traditional support areas. The PNC definitely have to establish a new leader.  64% stayed away from the polls.

Mitwah
Mitwah posted:
skeldon_man posted:

WHY WAS THERE SO MUCH HYPE ABOUT THE LGE? IS IT A NOTHING BURGER NOW THAT THE RULING PARTY LOST?

Granger's illness might have been a contributing factor for the low turn out in its traditional support areas. The PNC definitely have to establish a new leader.  64% stayed away from the polls.

Maybe as Granger goes, the chances of PNC winning the GE might be slim to none?

FM
Mitwah posted:
skeldon_man posted:

WHY WAS THERE SO MUCH HYPE ABOUT THE LGE? IS IT A NOTHING BURGER NOW THAT THE RULING PARTY LOST?

Granger's illness might have been a contributing factor for the low turn out in its traditional support areas. The PNC definitely have to establish a new leader.  64% stayed away from the polls.

If 36% turned out and the PPP won 64% then 80% of the PNC base stayed away.  That is big shyte!   Mars can check my ‘Rithmatic!

I don’t get what granger have to do with it.  If that is so, then dem in real trouble come 2020.  

Baseman
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