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We have become a nation of imagination and assumptions to carve pictures to tell stories of what might have happened (if). That "IF" will have a long-term devastating effect on our ability to hold the truth (or what we believe to be the truth).

The Miss Cleo theory is hard at work where investigative journalism and fact-finding took a back seat. This is one of the many issues I came across in recent times that I am getting off my chest. 

If you can't think for yourself, someone will tell you what to think. If you can't believe in yourself, someone will tell you what to believe. Food for thoughts.

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Prince posted:

We have become a nation of imagination and assumptions to carve pictures to tell stories of what might have happened (if). That "IF" will have a long-term devastating effect on our ability to hold the truth (or what we believe to be the truth).

The Miss Cleo theory is hard at work where investigative journalism and fact-finding took a back seat. This is one of the many issues I came across in recent times that I am getting off my chest. 

If you can't think for yourself, someone will tell you what to think. If you can't believe in yourself, someone will tell you what to believe. Food for thoughts.

Do you not think that you have made a significant contribution to this?

FM
Dondadda posted:
Prince posted:

We have become a nation of imagination and assumptions to carve pictures to tell stories of what might have happened (if). That "IF" will have a long-term devastating effect on our ability to hold the truth (or what we believe to be the truth).

The Miss Cleo theory is hard at work where investigative journalism and fact-finding took a back seat. This is one of the many issues I came across in recent times that I am getting off my chest. 

If you can't think for yourself, someone will tell you what to think. If you can't believe in yourself, someone will tell you what to believe. Food for thoughts.

Do you not think that you have made a significant contribution to this?

NO. In the past, I have contributed the same shit of rambling politics as most are doing at present. Now I am contributing hardcore materials that are hard to digest. If you could have digested it, you wouldn't have reason to question me. 

FM
Demerara_Guy posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

What are you rambling about now? 😀

He just wake up and need his milk. 

Bottle of milk as he "chups, chups, chups" while babbling in his crib.

I am sure you realize that I do not desire to get into baby talks to my fellow members. It only serves to distract from the real issues. 

FM
Prince posted:
Dondadda posted:
Prince posted:

We have become a nation of imagination and assumptions to carve pictures to tell stories of what might have happened (if). That "IF" will have a long-term devastating effect on our ability to hold the truth (or what we believe to be the truth).

The Miss Cleo theory is hard at work where investigative journalism and fact-finding took a back seat. This is one of the many issues I came across in recent times that I am getting off my chest. 

If you can't think for yourself, someone will tell you what to think. If you can't believe in yourself, someone will tell you what to believe. Food for thoughts.

Do you not think that you have made a significant contribution to this?

NO. In the past, I have contributed the same shit of rambling politics as most are doing at present. Now I am contributing hardcore materials that are hard to digest. If you could have digested it, you wouldn't have reason to question me. 

What material? You've yet to cite an example for this unnecessary braying. As i see it, u appear to be looking for lil attention.

Sheik101
Demerara_Guy posted:
Prince posted:

Some people are still self-centered on how to take away attention and intrude where they do not belong. WTF. 

Self-centered person ...

... meaning and specifically to ...

 

--- pseodonym for Princess the Guyanese Princess.  

When I said when the PPPites complain about PNC they should suffer 10 folds for being stupid, I was being polite. If the PPP loses, I will be celebrating the ignorance of its supporters. 

FM
ksazma posted:

. But the PNC is the worst.

And others will say that the PPP is the worst and intent in stirring up ethnic tensions.  This indicated by their current wailing about Haitians, the majority of whom leave Guyana as soon as they can arrange travel to Suriname.  If Jagdeo wants to find those Haitian "APNU supporters" he will have to travel to French Guiana or to the Suriname border with that country.

Why will a Haitian settle for APNU crumbs when FG offers them wages paid in euros?

As you said we mistrust each other and this leads to different analyses of the problem.

FM
ksazma posted:

The reality is that the PNC started this shit between 1962 and 1992 with the way they shamelessly discriminated against the Indian masses. They are mostly the blame for the mistrust in Guyana.

Actually in 1992 the PPP discriminated massively against blacks when they won.  In 1957 the PPP campaigned an "apan jhat" and insulted black people in 1961 when they won that election.

FM
caribny posted:
ksazma posted:

The reality is that the PNC started this shit between 1962 and 1992 with the way they shamelessly discriminated against the Indian masses. They are mostly the blame for the mistrust in Guyana.

Actually in 1992 the PPP discriminated massively against blacks when they won.  In 1957 the PPP campaigned an "apan jhat" and insulted black people in 1961 when they won that election.

So people were only looking at one side of the big jill?   

FM
Tola posted:

The mistrust might have started in 1838, when indenture labourers first arrived to replace the slaves.

The labourers accepted less payment for similar jobs,  that was paid to the free slaves. This  create tensions between the groups.

This mistrust was partially  shown in the film 1838. 

Welcome back, Tola. If that's the case, when did any politician in modern history tried to change that? If I am talking about this today, it means that it benefited politicians to play a mind game with its supporters. Instead of blaming politicians, what should we say about the supporters who buy into the politicians thinking and beliefs? Are they brained washed or are they simply making a world of their own likeness by denying the truth? 

FM
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Prince posted:
Tola posted:

The mistrust might have started in 1838, when indenture labourers first arrived to replace the slaves.

The labourers accepted less payment for similar jobs,  that was paid to the free slaves. This  create tensions between the groups.

This mistrust was partially  shown in the film 1838. 

Welcome back, Tola. If that's the case, when did any politician in modern history tried to change that? If I am talking about this today, it means that it benefited politicians to play a mind game with its supporters. Instead of blaming politicians, what should we say about the supporters who buy into the politicians thinking and beliefs? Are they brained washed or are they simply making a world of their own likeness by denying the truth? 

Prince it’s call business, like we does see every day but we don’t put races in front of the bargain  ... we say competitor- a more modernize word. 

FM
Prince posted:
Tola posted:

The mistrust might have started in 1838, when indenture labourers first arrived to replace the slaves.

The labourers accepted less payment for similar jobs,  that was paid to the free slaves. This  create tensions between the groups.

This mistrust was partially  shown in the film 1838. 

Welcome back, Tola. If that's the case, when did any politician in modern history tried to change that? If I am talking about this today, it means that it benefited politicians to play a mind game with its supporters. Instead of blaming politicians, what should we say about the supporters who buy into the politicians thinking and beliefs? Are they brained washed or are they simply making a world of their own likeness by denying the truth? 

Thanks Prince.  Time does not permit me to read or post on GNI more often.

I remember well in the 1960s, how race was used for political gain, by both major parties, including the colonial masters. 

I grew up in an Indian community with strong links to CJ and Port Mourant and knew little about Africans.

Until the early 1960s, when I got involved in Scouter's Training near the airport. In an uncomfortable manner we were placed in mixed race groups to compete with other patrols. Here  I discovered Africans were no different from my Indian friends and I made many life long African friendships.

But similar to both races, I do not accept any of the 'unpleasant'  things they tend to do.      

Tola
Dave posted:

Another example is like how we immigrants come at white man country and choose to wok fo less money to survive... unda cutting the white man pay. But I didn’t see any tension build up between the white and them immigrants.. cause they use wisdom .

Wisdom is a good quality and culture or the political system in some countries, did not allowed discrimination or mistrust.

In Guyana, politics and racial division  was used by all parties for political gain and voters were the pawn.

The country system either allowed  mistrust and  division, or it don't. Thus some countries are rated as the best to live in.   

Tola

Job is everyone livelihood and security. It's ok for blacks to feel insecure at that point in time. The ones who capitalize on that basis are responsible for creating the foundation for racial division. Remember, the slaves and indentured servants were uneducated but they acted on their instinct. 

FM
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It makes no sense shipping people across the Atlantic when there were blacks already in the territories willing to fill those jobs. The reality was that blacks didn’t want to work on the plantations anymore which presented the plantation owners with a dilemma. And Indians were not their first choice anyway. It is stupid to hate Indians for that.

FM

Even if free, would anyone want to  remain and work for a master who previously  beat them to perform a job. Once a slave always a slave, in the eyes of the slave master. 

The free African slaves did not have a choice  who replace them.

Initially, Africans did not mistrust Indians until the Indians started undercutting them for less pay, for the same job.   

Tola
Tola posted:

Even if free, would anyone want to  remain and work for a master who previously  beat them to perform a job. Once a slave always a slave, in the eyes of the slave master. 

The free African slaves did not have a choice  who replace them.

Initially, Africans did not mistrust Indians until the Indians started undercutting them for less pay, for the same job.   

Bai, let me speak slowly so you understand. Africans didn't want the job so it wouldn't matter if the Indian took a small pay or a big one. Now I can understand if the Africans were mad at the Indians for taking the jobs if they (Africans) were hoping to extort the plantation owners. The work was there for the taking if the Africans wanted it. They decided that they don't so the plantation owners looked elsewhere to suitable labor and the Indian was chosen. Can't blame the Indian for that.

FM
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ksazma posted:

How did the Indian undercut the African for a job the African didn't want?

The only possible thing the Indians did by taking those jobs is thwarting the Africans attempt to extort the plantation owners.

Yuh understand now Tola? 

Watch movie Guyana 1838 and study Indian Indenture Labourers first interaction with free African slaves.  

Also investigate  York university 1988 Indo Caribbean/Guyana conference.    

Tola
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ksazma posted:

How did the Indian undercut the African for a job the African didn't want?

The only possible thing the Indians did by taking those jobs is thwarting the Africans attempt to extort the plantation owners.

Yuh understand now Tola? 

I read what these jokers write.  Indian labor under cut Blacks, so 150 years on the hatred continues.  Yet these same jokers said Americans who object to the flood of immigrants pushing down wages are racist.  Whites are racist, Blacks are victims!

I doubt the average Indian even knew his wage undercut someone else!

Baseman
Baseman posted:
ksazma posted:

The only possible thing the Indians did was prevent the Africans from extorting the plantation owners.

I don’t think that was their agenda. Indians went to work for a better life than India.  No different than people do today, better their lives!

Maybe it was the Africans agenda to extort the plantation owners though.

FM
Tola posted:
ksazma posted:
Tola posted:

How will they not know, when their bid for a job at a lower wage, undercut  the previous wage paid to African slaves ?

Which part of the Africans didn’t want the job don’t you understand bai?

Bhai, as intelligent as you think you are. Why do you answer a question with a question ?  

Bai you mistake me fuh some body else. I iz wan low IQ banna.

FM

Anyway Tola bai. I didn’t ask a question. I made statement that the Africans didn’t want to work on the plantation anymore so the poor plantation owners were faced with a dilemma for an alternative to the loss of their African labor force. The Indians provided a much needed relief to the owners. If the Africans realize afterwards that made a terrible decision, they should just bear their chafe and not blame Indians for their mistakes.

FM
ksazma posted:

. . . Africans didn’t want to work on the plantation anymore so the poor plantation owners were faced with a dilemma for an alternative to the loss of their African labor force [chattel slaves].

anybody wondering about the sick 'psychology' at work in the "Blacks are the scourge of the world" mindset needs to pay close attention here

keep talking banna

FM
ksazma posted:

Anyway Tola bai. I didn’t ask a question. I made statement that the Africans didn’t want to work on the plantation anymore so the poor plantation owners were faced with a dilemma for an alternative to the loss of their African labor force. The Indians provided a much needed relief to the owners. If the Africans realize afterwards that made a terrible decision, they should just bear their chafe and not blame Indians for their mistakes.

But Ksazma bhai,  some free slaves remained on the plantation and worked for a wage.

Their subdivision on the sugar estate was called Nig*er  yard and the Indians subdivisions    were called Bound Yard and Free Yard. 

The indenture labourers  bound by their five year contract stayed in Bound Yard  and Free yard was those  who finished  their contract, but choose not to return to India.

Nig*er yard was not  a pleasant name for Africans, but that was what the British named it. All sugar estates  had Nig*er Yard, Bound yard and Free Yard. My family lived in Free Yard among the logies, once occupied by  African slaves.

The animosity the African slaves felt for the Indenture labourers was due to the Indians bidding lower on job, thus reducing the wages of Africans, including the Indians.

If there was corporation and union, it would have benefitted everyone.   

Tola

Pure shyte.  The oldest and most basic principal of any business is to reduce input cost. It happens everyday today. 

In America today immigrants are used to reduce costs and some jobs are taken out to the cheaper labor.  Then we call people racist for complaining. 

The animosity towards Indians have more to do with political power than work.  Even today, Afros don’t have a high desire to work the plantations.  

Every mixed society will have its tensions even in the best of times. The deep seated animosity today is rooted in political power and who should have control of Guyana!  Burnham and Jagan was once united then broke as power play took over!

There is strength in unity, but some Ayuh like to divide and conquer.

Baseman believes in unity and love.

Baseman
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Tola posted:
ksazma posted:

Anyway Tola bai. I didn’t ask a question. I made statement that the Africans didn’t want to work on the plantation anymore so the poor plantation owners were faced with a dilemma for an alternative to the loss of their African labor force. The Indians provided a much needed relief to the owners. If the Africans realize afterwards that made a terrible decision, they should just bear their chafe and not blame Indians for their mistakes.

But Ksazma bhai,  some free slaves remained on the plantation and worked for a wage.

Their subdivision on the sugar estate was called Nig*er  yard and the Indians subdivisions    were called Bound Yard and Free Yard. 

The indenture labourers  bound by their five year contract stayed in Bound Yard  and Free yard was those  who finished  their contract, but choose not to return to India.

Nig*er yard was not  a pleasant name for Africans, but that was what the British named it. All sugar estates  had Nig*er Yard, Bound yard and Free Yard. My family lived in Free Yard among the logies, once occupied by  African slaves.

The animosity the African slaves felt for the Indenture labourers was due to the Indians bidding lower on job, thus reducing the wages of Africans, including the Indians.

If there was corporation and union, it would have benefitted everyone.   

Indians can't be held responsible for what the British or Africans did. The Africans created the labor crises when many of them decided to leave the plantation. The plantation owners still had a business to operate so they did what any business owner would do, they went out and source alternative labor. Indians were not their first choice but in the end, they decided that Indians were a good fit because they were adapted to plantation activities and most of all, willing to work. So the plantation owners incurred the high cost of bringing them across the Atlantic and giving them a workable wage. The Africans could have accepted the same wage if they really wanted to compete for those jobs and the plantation owners would gladly rehire them because rehiring them had the benefit of not having to incur the high cost of transporting Indians across the Atlantic as well as not having to incur the cost of training since the Africans were already working on the plantations prior to staging their walk out. There is an old saying in Guyana that fast cents are better than slow dollars (or something like that). The Indians understood that concept a lot better than the Africans. There is a good chance the Africans didn't really want to work but were hoping to just extort the plantation owners. Their plan back firing is their loss not the innocent Indians fault.

FM
ksazma posted:
Tola posted:
ksazma posted:

Anyway Tola bai. I didn’t ask a question. I made statement that the Africans didn’t want to work on the plantation anymore so the poor plantation owners were faced with a dilemma for an alternative to the loss of their African labor force. The Indians provided a much needed relief to the owners. If the Africans realize afterwards that made a terrible decision, they should just bear their chafe and not blame Indians for their mistakes.

But Ksazma bhai,  some free slaves remained on the plantation and worked for a wage.

Their subdivision on the sugar estate was called Nig*er  yard and the Indians subdivisions    were called Bound Yard and Free Yard. 

The indenture labourers  bound by their five year contract stayed in Bound Yard  and Free yard was those  who finished  their contract, but choose not to return to India.

Nig*er yard was not  a pleasant name for Africans, but that was what the British named it. All sugar estates  had Nig*er Yard, Bound yard and Free Yard. My family lived in Free Yard among the logies, once occupied by  African slaves.

The animosity the African slaves felt for the Indenture labourers was due to the Indians bidding lower on job, thus reducing the wages of Africans, including the Indians.

If there was corporation and union, it would have benefitted everyone.   

Indians can't be held responsible for what the British or Africans did. The Africans created the labor crises when many of them decided to leave the plantation. The plantation owners still had a business to operate so they did what any business owner would do, they went out and source alternative labor. Indians were not their first choice but in the end, they decided that Indians were a good fit because they were adapted to plantation activities and most of all, willing to work. So the plantation owners incurred the high cost of bringing them across the Atlantic and giving them a workable wage. The Africans could have accepted the same wage if they really wanted to compete for those jobs and the plantation owners would gladly rehire them because rehiring them had the benefit of not having to incur the high cost of transporting Indians across the Atlantic as well as not having to incur the cost of training since the Africans were already working on the plantations prior to staging their walk out. There is an old saying in Guyana that fast cents are better than slow dollars (or something like that). The Indians understood that concept a lot better than the Africans. There is a good chance the Africans didn't really want to work but were hoping to just extort the plantation owners. Their plan back firing is their loss not the innocent Indians fault.

It’s a nonsense argument.  True, Afros then might have felt displaced by Indians as some Americans feel about immigrants today.  However, Blacks have long moved pass that. Even burnham could not get Blacks to go back to the land in mass.  

The deep seated animosity today is all about political control of the real estate. 

Both groups have to seek an accommodation to ensure everyone feels included and having their fair share.

Baseman
Baseman posted:
ksazma posted:
Tola posted:
ksazma posted:

Anyway Tola bai. I didn’t ask a question. I made statement that the Africans didn’t want to work on the plantation anymore so the poor plantation owners were faced with a dilemma for an alternative to the loss of their African labor force. The Indians provided a much needed relief to the owners. If the Africans realize afterwards that made a terrible decision, they should just bear their chafe and not blame Indians for their mistakes.

But Ksazma bhai,  some free slaves remained on the plantation and worked for a wage.

Their subdivision on the sugar estate was called Nig*er  yard and the Indians subdivisions    were called Bound Yard and Free Yard. 

The indenture labourers  bound by their five year contract stayed in Bound Yard  and Free yard was those  who finished  their contract, but choose not to return to India.

Nig*er yard was not  a pleasant name for Africans, but that was what the British named it. All sugar estates  had Nig*er Yard, Bound yard and Free Yard. My family lived in Free Yard among the logies, once occupied by  African slaves.

The animosity the African slaves felt for the Indenture labourers was due to the Indians bidding lower on job, thus reducing the wages of Africans, including the Indians.

If there was corporation and union, it would have benefitted everyone.   

Indians can't be held responsible for what the British or Africans did. The Africans created the labor crises when many of them decided to leave the plantation. The plantation owners still had a business to operate so they did what any business owner would do, they went out and source alternative labor. Indians were not their first choice but in the end, they decided that Indians were a good fit because they were adapted to plantation activities and most of all, willing to work. So the plantation owners incurred the high cost of bringing them across the Atlantic and giving them a workable wage. The Africans could have accepted the same wage if they really wanted to compete for those jobs and the plantation owners would gladly rehire them because rehiring them had the benefit of not having to incur the high cost of transporting Indians across the Atlantic as well as not having to incur the cost of training since the Africans were already working on the plantations prior to staging their walk out. There is an old saying in Guyana that fast cents are better than slow dollars (or something like that). The Indians understood that concept a lot better than the Africans. There is a good chance the Africans didn't really want to work but were hoping to just extort the plantation owners. Their plan back firing is their loss not the innocent Indians fault.

It’s a nonsense argument.  True, Afros then might have felt displaced by Indians as some Americans feel about immigrants today.  However, Blacks have long moved pass that. Even burnham could not get Blacks to go back to the land in mass.  

The deep seated animosity today is all about political control of the real estate. 

Both groups have to seek an accommodation to ensure everyone feels included and having their fair share.

That is exactly what I am trying to tell Tola. He shouldn't fall for the Kool Aid. He is being used as a pawn and he is too innocent minded to even realize it.

FM
ksazma posted:

. . . the Africans didn't really want to work but were hoping to just extort the ["poor"] plantation owners. Their plan back firing is their loss

high ignorance masturbating in public exposing an incurable disease

sure sh!t Orwellian

when should we expect your next pus-laden ejaculation seÃąor "Blacks are the scourge of the earth"?

speak

FM
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Baseman posted:

The deep seated animosity today is all about political control of the real estate. 

Both groups have to seek an accommodation to ensure everyone feels included and having their fair share.

That should now begin with the PNC respecting the law and ensure that elections are held by September 18, 2019,come hell or highwater. They need to demonstrate that they can fit in to a civilized society. So far all they have done is demonstrate that they have not yet arrived.

FM
Sheik101 posted:
Prince posted:
Dondadda posted:
Prince posted:

We have become a nation of imagination and assumptions to carve pictures to tell stories of what might have happened (if). That "IF" will have a long-term devastating effect on our ability to hold the truth (or what we believe to be the truth).

The Miss Cleo theory is hard at work where investigative journalism and fact-finding took a back seat. This is one of the many issues I came across in recent times that I am getting off my chest. 

If you can't think for yourself, someone will tell you what to think. If you can't believe in yourself, someone will tell you what to believe. Food for thoughts.

Do you not think that you have made a significant contribution to this?

NO. In the past, I have contributed the same shit of rambling politics as most are doing at present. Now I am contributing hardcore materials that are hard to digest. If you could have digested it, you wouldn't have reason to question me. 

What material? You've yet to cite an example for this unnecessary braying. As i see it, u appear to be looking for lil attention.

This not his original. He plagiarized this piece and changed some of the words in it to refer to blacks and Indians. He does not have the cognitive ability to do abstract thinking.

FM
ronan posted:
ksazma posted:

. . . the Africans didn't really want to work but were hoping to just extort the ["poor"] plantation owners. Their plan back firing is their loss

high ignorance masturbating in public exposing an incurable disease

sure sh!t Orwellian

when should we expect your next pus-laden ejaculation seÃąor "Blacks are the scourge of the earth"?

speak

Actually,  Africans are intelligent ppl. Juss the ones from Guyana seems to be a problem. For them, everything is about race. Everytime a smart want to do something for Guyanese Blacks, it is always in comparison to what Indians have done or wah dey presently doing. The downfall of Guyanese Blacks has to do with Elite Blacks, men like Hinds, Philip, Granger and all those who want to tell black ppl how to create businesses solely on a prejudice platform.

S
seignet posted:
ronan posted:
ksazma posted:

. . . the Africans didn't really want to work but were hoping to just extort the ["poor"] plantation owners. Their plan back firing is their loss

high ignorance masturbating in public exposing an incurable disease

sure sh!t Orwellian

when should we expect your next pus-laden ejaculation seÃąor "Blacks are the scourge of the earth"?

speak

Actually,  Africans are intelligent ppl. Juss the ones from Guyana seems to be a problem. For them, everything is about race. Everytime a smart want to do something for Guyanese Blacks, it is always in comparison to what Indians have done or wah dey presently doing. The downfall of Guyanese Blacks has to do with Elite Blacks, men like Hinds, Philip, Granger and all those who want to tell black ppl how to create businesses solely on a prejudice platform.

you (and the other stilt-walking, semi-educated, deluded Indos posting here) are singularly unqualified to pronounce pro or con on the "intelligence" of "Africans"

and your post, while otherwise interesting, has nothing to do with the topic at hand

FM
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Until yuh ppl includes Indo in alyuh progressive plans yuh all get nowhere to go. Stilt-walking gives a better view. Semi-educated, even the most backward Indo knows how to get up in life. Unqualified to speak, many Indos knows the pro and con. And better than yuh pundits. It juss dat guyanese blacks doan want to get indos involved in dey business. That is the down fall pan dem.

S
seignet posted:

Until yuh ppl includes Indo in alyuh progressive plans yuh all get nowhere to go. Stilt-walking gives a better view. Semi-educated, even the most backward Indo knows how to get up in life. Unqualified to speak, many Indos knows the pro and con. And better than yuh pundits. It juss dat guyanese blacks doan want to get indos involved in dey business. That is the down fall pan dem.

your non-sequitur strut is noted

FM
Prince posted:

We have become a nation of imagination and assumptions to carve pictures to tell stories of what might have happened (if). That "IF" will have a long-term devastating effect on our ability to hold the truth (or what we believe to be the truth).

The Miss Cleo theory is hard at work where investigative journalism and fact-finding took a back seat. This is one of the many issues I came across in recent times that I am getting off my chest. 

If you can't think for yourself, someone will tell you what to think. If you can't believe in yourself, someone will tell you what to believe. Food for thoughts.

Folks, when you get strayed from a topic and have no recourse, you need to revisit the heading and contents of the thread. Its all about political mistrust in Guyanese society. It has nothing to do with Balck and Indian but everything to do with people. People are being steered to think and believe what politicians believe. For those of you who want to come after me for misguiding myself and them, please reset and come back. Think about how best you would entertain a topic that suits your likeness even though it is untrue. When you act on your fear, it leads to illogical thinking and leaves you vulnerable for Jagdeo and Granger to play you for fools. 

FM
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seignet posted:
the earth"?

speak

Actually,  Africans are intelligent ppl. Juss the ones from Guyana seems to be a problem. For them, everything is about race. .

And yet its the Indians who want to beat up and disown their kids if they marry a black or Amerindian person.

What is amazing is that the Indo posters here are obsessed with "Indians this and Indians that".  Apparently they think that Indians are a separate species so don't think that constant references to this means that they don't see life through racial lenses.

As to Africans.  Just start a chat between Yorubas and Igbos and you will see how divisive they can be. Apparently Idi Amin doesn't mean anything to you.

FM
ksazma posted:
 

Their subdivision on the sugar estate was called Nig*er  yard and the  a The Indians understood that concept a lot better than the Africans. There is a good chance the Africans didn't really want to work but were hoping to just extort the plantation owners. Their plan back firing is their loss not the innocent Indians fault.

Funny thing this. By the 1880s when Indo indentures were well entrenched into Guyana they began to see how they were being screwed so also began to protest against the estate owners.  When they did the owners simply recruited starving Islanders and paid them scab wages to undermine the Indians.  In a few instances the Indians even attacked these scabs.

What goes around comes around.

FM
ksazma posted:
 

That should now begin with the PNC respecting the law and ensure that elections are held by September 18, 2019,come hell or highwater. They need to demonstrate that they can fit in to a civilized society. So far all they have done is demonstrate that they have not yet arrived.

Discuss why Jagdeo screamed in 2015 that an H2H was needed before the next general election and now he sings a different song.

FM
caribny posted:
seignet posted:
the earth"?

speak

Actually,  Africans are intelligent ppl. Juss the ones from Guyana seems to be a problem. For them, everything is about race. .

And yet its the Indians who want to beat up and disown their kids if they marry a black or Amerindian person.

What is amazing is that the Indo posters here are obsessed with "Indians this and Indians that".  Apparently they think that Indians are a separate species so don't think that constant references to this means that they don't see life through racial lenses.

As to Africans.  Just start a chat between Yorubas and Igbos and you will see how divisive they can be. Apparently Idi Amin doesn't mean anything to you.

Mixed marriages were never permitted. Even African tribes doan permit dat.

S
ronan posted:
seignet posted:
ronan posted:
ksazma posted:

. . . the Africans didn't really want to work but were hoping to just extort the ["poor"] plantation owners. Their plan back firing is their loss

high ignorance masturbating in public exposing an incurable disease

sure sh!t Orwellian

when should we expect your next pus-laden ejaculation seÃąor "Blacks are the scourge of the earth"?

speak

Actually,  Africans are intelligent ppl. Juss the ones from Guyana seems to be a problem. For them, everything is about race. Everytime a smart want to do something for Guyanese Blacks, it is always in comparison to what Indians have done or wah dey presently doing. The downfall of Guyanese Blacks has to do with Elite Blacks, men like Hinds, Philip, Granger and all those who want to tell black ppl how to create businesses solely on a prejudice platform.

you (and the other stilt-walking, semi-educated, deluded Indos posting here) are singularly unqualified to pronounce pro or con on the "intelligence" of "Africans"

and your post, while otherwise interesting, has nothing to do with the topic at hand

I admit he has screwed up opinion but it does not mean he is stupid. He is a rich coolie engineer in the twilight of his life who has not overcome his prejudices. Shockley was a racist bitch but he was also a Nobel prize winner. So is Dr James Watson, a man who know definitively what is under our skin is identical. 

You are being no less than he with your unparalleled  abuse and cuss down and calling people stupid when you know they are bigots and nothing else. Smart people can be all the horrible things from racists to misogynists to sadists etc. Address the damn post and and spare us the self approbation about how intelligent you are !

FM
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Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:
seignet posted:
ronan posted:
ksazma posted:

. . . the Africans didn't really want to work but were hoping to just extort the ["poor"] plantation owners. Their plan back firing is their loss

high ignorance masturbating in public exposing an incurable disease

sure sh!t Orwellian

when should we expect your next pus-laden ejaculation seÃąor "Blacks are the scourge of the earth"?

speak

Actually,  Africans are intelligent ppl. Juss the ones from Guyana seems to be a problem. For them, everything is about race. Everytime a smart want to do something for Guyanese Blacks, it is always in comparison to what Indians have done or wah dey presently doing. The downfall of Guyanese Blacks has to do with Elite Blacks, men like Hinds, Philip, Granger and all those who want to tell black ppl how to create businesses solely on a prejudice platform.

you (and the other stilt-walking, semi-educated, deluded Indos posting here) are singularly unqualified to pronounce pro or con on the "intelligence" of "Africans"

and your post, while otherwise interesting, has nothing to do with the topic at hand

I admit he has screwed up opinion but it does not mean he is stupid. He is a rich coolie engineer in the twilight of his life who has not overcome his prejudices. Shockley was a racist bitch but he was also a Nobel prize winner. So is Dr James Watson, a man who know definitively what is under our skin is identical. 

You are being no less than he with your unparalleled  abuse and cuss down and calling people stupid when you know they are bigots and nothing else. Smart people can be all the horrible things from racists to misogynists to sadists etc. Address the damn post and and spare us the self approbation about how intelligent you are !

perhaps in the mediocre precincts you habituate, a sick-minded, ignorant, Bible-clutching racist jackass with 'money' who learned a trade is equivalent to a Watson or Shockley

but then again, you said the same about the semi-educated drugb because, apparently, he attended The State University of New Jersey?

you assess like a neva see come see

and then there is the DUNDERHEAD wannabe klansman Ksazma you lately starting to hug up in this desperate bottom scraping for anti-Ronan 'allies'

smfh

FM
ronan posted:
Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:
seignet posted:
ronan posted:
ksazma posted:

. . . the Africans didn't really want to work but were hoping to just extort the ["poor"] plantation owners. Their plan back firing is their loss

high ignorance masturbating in public exposing an incurable disease

sure sh!t Orwellian

when should we expect your next pus-laden ejaculation seÃąor "Blacks are the scourge of the earth"?

speak

Actually,  Africans are intelligent ppl. Juss the ones from Guyana seems to be a problem. For them, everything is about race. Everytime a smart want to do something for Guyanese Blacks, it is always in comparison to what Indians have done or wah dey presently doing. The downfall of Guyanese Blacks has to do with Elite Blacks, men like Hinds, Philip, Granger and all those who want to tell black ppl how to create businesses solely on a prejudice platform.

you (and the other stilt-walking, semi-educated, deluded Indos posting here) are singularly unqualified to pronounce pro or con on the "intelligence" of "Africans"

and your post, while otherwise interesting, has nothing to do with the topic at hand

I admit he has screwed up opinion but it does not mean he is stupid. He is a rich coolie engineer in the twilight of his life who has not overcome his prejudices. Shockley was a racist bitch but he was also a Nobel prize winner. So is Dr James Watson, a man who know definitively what is under our skin is identical. 

You are being no less than he with your unparalleled  abuse and cuss down and calling people stupid when you know they are bigots and nothing else. Smart people can be all the horrible things from racists to misogynists to sadists etc. Address the damn post and and spare us the self approbation about how intelligent you are !

perhaps in the mediocre precincts you habituate, a sick-minded, ignorant, Bible-clutching racist jackass with 'money' who learned a trade is equivalent to a Watson or Shockley

but then again, you said the same about the semi-educated drugb because, apparently, he attended The State University of New Jersey?

you assess like a neva see come see

and then there is the DUNDERHEAD wannabe klansman Ksazma you lately starting to hug up in this desperate bottom scraping for anti-Ronan 'allies'

smfh

I am here and I see you so you know yourself. Drugb graduated from Rutgers. It is a damn good state school...

FM
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Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:
Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:
seignet posted:
ronan posted:
ksazma posted:

. . . the Africans didn't really want to work but were hoping to just extort the ["poor"] plantation owners. Their plan back firing is their loss

high ignorance masturbating in public exposing an incurable disease

sure sh!t Orwellian

when should we expect your next pus-laden ejaculation seÃąor "Blacks are the scourge of the earth"?

speak

Actually,  Africans are intelligent ppl. Juss the ones from Guyana seems to be a problem. For them, everything is about race. Everytime a smart want to do something for Guyanese Blacks, it is always in comparison to what Indians have done or wah dey presently doing. The downfall of Guyanese Blacks has to do with Elite Blacks, men like Hinds, Philip, Granger and all those who want to tell black ppl how to create businesses solely on a prejudice platform.

you (and the other stilt-walking, semi-educated, deluded Indos posting here) are singularly unqualified to pronounce pro or con on the "intelligence" of "Africans"

and your post, while otherwise interesting, has nothing to do with the topic at hand

I admit he has screwed up opinion but it does not mean he is stupid. He is a rich coolie engineer in the twilight of his life who has not overcome his prejudices. Shockley was a racist bitch but he was also a Nobel prize winner. So is Dr James Watson, a man who know definitively what is under our skin is identical. 

You are being no less than he with your unparalleled  abuse and cuss down and calling people stupid when you know they are bigots and nothing else. Smart people can be all the horrible things from racists to misogynists to sadists etc. Address the damn post and and spare us the self approbation about how intelligent you are !

perhaps in the mediocre precincts you habituate, a sick-minded, ignorant, Bible-clutching racist jackass with 'money' who learned a trade is equivalent to a Watson or Shockley

but then again, you said the same about the semi-educated drugb because, apparently, he attended The State University of New Jersey?

you assess like a neva see come see

and then there is the DUNDERHEAD wannabe klansman Ksazma you lately starting to hug up in this desperate bottom scraping for anti-Ronan 'allies'

smfh

I am here and I see you so you know yourself. Drugb graduated from Rutgers. It is a damn good state school...

what's the point of your post fool?

you are NOT refuting anything i said

FM
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caribny posted:
ksazma posted:
 

That should now begin with the PNC respecting the law and ensure that elections are held by September 18, 2019,come hell or highwater. They need to demonstrate that they can fit in to a civilized society. So far all they have done is demonstrate that they have not yet arrived.

Discuss why Jagdeo screamed in 2015 that an H2H was needed before the next general election and now he sings a different song.

Fake news.  The last three general elections did not have H2H.  And how do you know he is a screamer?

Bibi Haniffa
Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:
Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:
seignet posted:
ronan posted:
ksazma posted:

. . . the Africans didn't really want to work but were hoping to just extort the ["poor"] plantation owners. Their plan back firing is their loss

high ignorance masturbating in public exposing an incurable disease

sure sh!t Orwellian

when should we expect your next pus-laden ejaculation seÃąor "Blacks are the scourge of the earth"?

speak

Actually,  Africans are intelligent ppl. Juss the ones from Guyana seems to be a problem. For them, everything is about race. Everytime a smart want to do something for Guyanese Blacks, it is always in comparison to what Indians have done or wah dey presently doing. The downfall of Guyanese Blacks has to do with Elite Blacks, men like Hinds, Philip, Granger and all those who want to tell black ppl how to create businesses solely on a prejudice platform.

you (and the other stilt-walking, semi-educated, deluded Indos posting here) are singularly unqualified to pronounce pro or con on the "intelligence" of "Africans"

and your post, while otherwise interesting, has nothing to do with the topic at hand

I admit he has screwed up opinion but it does not mean he is stupid. He is a rich coolie engineer in the twilight of his life who has not overcome his prejudices. Shockley was a racist bitch but he was also a Nobel prize winner. So is Dr James Watson, a man who know definitively what is under our skin is identical. 

You are being no less than he with your unparalleled  abuse and cuss down and calling people stupid when you know they are bigots and nothing else. Smart people can be all the horrible things from racists to misogynists to sadists etc. Address the damn post and and spare us the self approbation about how intelligent you are !

perhaps in the mediocre precincts you habituate, a sick-minded, ignorant, Bible-clutching racist jackass with 'money' who learned a trade is equivalent to a Watson or Shockley

but then again, you said the same about the semi-educated drugb because, apparently, he attended The State University of New Jersey?

you assess like a neva see come see

and then there is the DUNDERHEAD wannabe klansman Ksazma you lately starting to hug up in this desperate bottom scraping for anti-Ronan 'allies'

smfh

I am here and I see you so you know yourself. Drugb graduated from Rutgers. It is a damn good state school...

Good to know at least one GNI poster is a college graduate.

Bibi Haniffa

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