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We will believe this is so when granger says it is so. Amna ally said that constitutional matters is in her mandate for her ministry. Another concern I have is we have these ministers under the ministry of the presidency. As PP. Does moses have authority and oversight over those ministries. Does he have oversight and authority over Harmon? I understand that under the constitution, the president is the boss, but under the Cummingsburgh Accord, the PM was supposed to run internal Ffairs.

Z
Originally Posted by Zed:

We will believe this is so when granger says it is so. Amna ally said that constitutional matters is in her mandate for her ministry. Another concern I have is we have these ministers under the ministry of the presidency. As PP. Does moses have authority and oversight over those ministries. Does he have oversight and authority over Harmon? I understand that under the constitution, the president is the boss, but under the Cummingsburgh Accord, the PM was supposed to run internal Ffairs.

Granger and the PNC cared little to retain any Indian votes brought in by AFC's Nagamootoo faction.  The PNC will drip-feed the AFC and when focus if off, swish them away into the gutter.  AFC's Indian faction will be relegated to toothless Administrative roles unless of course, it's in the interest of"his master's voice".  They will be kept relevant as long as they provide the "cover" by leading the cuss-down and daemonizing of the [c00lie] PPP.  Understand this, the PNC, in their bottom house meetings told their people the just need to get in and with the GDF will never ever get out again.

 

In fairness, at least, the PNC let you know, and you chose to walk into it.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Granger and the PNC cared little to retain any Indian votes brought in by AFC's Nagamootoo faction.  The PNC will drip-feed the AFC and when focus if off, swish them away into the gutter.  AFC's Indian faction will be relegated to toothless Administrative roles unless of course, it's in the interest of"his master's voice".  They will be kept relevant as long as they provide the "cover" by leading the cuss-down and daemonizing of the [c00lie] PPP.  Understand this, the PNC, in their bottom house meetings told their people the just need to get in and with the GDF will never ever get out again.

 

In fairness, at least, the PNC let you know, and you chose to walk into it.

antiman banna, don't u think it is way past time to give the anti-knowledge imaginings a rest

 

there was a time u wielded the bloodcurdling LIE as a whip to scare Indo-Guyanese towards the Freedom House plantation . . . now, it's just so much di*k sucking to pleasure your sullen PPP masters as they contemplate an uncertain future of sunlight and justice

 

am i right, or am i right?

FM
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Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Granger and the PNC cared little to retain any Indian votes brought in by AFC's Nagamootoo faction.  The PNC will drip-feed the AFC and when focus if off, swish them away into the gutter.  AFC's Indian faction will be relegated to toothless Administrative roles unless of course, it's in the interest of"his master's voice".  They will be kept relevant as long as they provide the "cover" by leading the cuss-down and daemonizing of the [c00lie] PPP.  Understand this, the PNC, in their bottom house meetings told their people the just need to get in and with the GDF will never ever get out again.

 

In fairness, at least, the PNC let you know, and you chose to walk into it.

antiman banna, don't u think it is way past time to give the anti-knowledge imaginings a rest

 

there was a time u wielded the bloodcurdling LIE as a whip to scare Indo-Guyanese towards the Freedom House plantation . . . now, it's just so much di*k sucking to pleasure your sullen PPP masters as they contemplate an uncertain future of sunlight and justice

 

am i right, or am i right?

Hey hey, thus far the "make-believe" lies are forming into "facts" on the ground.

FM
Originally Posted by Mitwah:
Originally Posted by KishanB:

President Granger is the Head of Parliament, while Moses Nagamootoo will be the Head of the National Assembly and of Government's business in the National Assembly.

 

Priority:

 

1.  Constitutional Reform;

2.  Anti-Money Laundering Law

The Anti-Money Laundering Law is long overdue.

 

 

That will be muted.  PNC savoring the return of the days of "suitcase cash" transactions.  You think them will be contented with a civil servant salary?

FM

Don't dismiss what Baseman is saying. The signs so far are not good - the Cabinet lacks diversity and so far we see some ignars emerging; sanitization of Green the known terrorist and PNC strongman not a good sign.

 

However, we look forward to Moses getting all the powers under the accord.

 

Local govt elections coming up so the PNC better behave or else they can be in for a rude awakening at LGE.

FM
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

Don't dismiss what Baseman is saying. .

Lord Moses is responsible for getting black people to vote for the coalition.  No one else, or no other factor can be considered a factor.

 

So what is your issue really.  I mean didn't you Moses cultists think that he is Lord and Master and so should be credited for all the successes of the coalition, including record black turn out?

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

Don't dismiss what Baseman is saying. .

Lord Moses is responsible for getting black people to vote for the coalition.  No one else, or no other factor can be considered a factor.

 

So what is your issue really.  I mean didn't you Moses cultists think that he is Lord and Master and so should be credited for all the successes of the coalition, including record black turn out?

CaribB, we can slice and dice the political dynamics as much as we want.

 

Just answer this question?

 

If it was a 3 way race, who would have been in power today?

 

Granger or Ramotar/Jagdeo?

 

POP quizz?

 

DO NOT DARE DISS the political value of Nagamootoo and the AFC.  

FM
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

Carib:

 

What you have against our new PM Moses?

 

Nobody ever said he is the ONLY reason for the Coalition's success or ALL the reason for the Coalition's success.

 

His role has changed Guyana's politics forever, along with Granger.

 

That's what we are saying.  Can you live with that, Brother?

Only time will tell. The Coalition will either continue on the path of building national unity or they will self destruct. If it is the former, I can see them being successful at the 2020 elections. If it is the latter, the PNC/R will become will become history. The AFC will become the party of national unity. Do not count the PPP/C out. If they put their house in order and become a truly Democratic Party, they could be a force in the future.

B
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

Carib:

 

What you have against our new PM Moses?

 

Nobody ever said he is the ONLY reason for the Coalition's success or ALL the reason for the Coalition's success.

 

His role has changed Guyana's politics forever, along with Granger.

 

That's what we are saying.  Can you live with that, Brother?

When Freddie and I spoke of the African tsunami that was responsible for the coalition win we were ridiculed.  We were told that we were wrong. We were told that it was all due to Moses.  NONE of these folks gave credit to any one but Moses.

 

 

So if Moses is all powerful praise him for Hammie Green getting an award.

 

You cannot give him the main credit for the high African turnout and then pretend as if he isn't so powerful that he doesn't run the PNC.  If the PNC couldn't get its voters out and needed Moses to do so, then they need advise on all aspects of their activities, including their awards.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

Don't dismiss what Baseman is saying. .

Lord Moses is responsible for getting black people to vote for the coalition.  No one else, or no other factor can be considered a factor.

 

So what is your issue really.  I mean didn't you Moses cultists think that he is Lord and Master and so should be credited for all the successes of the coalition, including record black turn out?

CaribB, we can slice and dice the political dynamics as much as we want.

 

Just answer this question?

 

If it was a 3 way race, who would have been in power today?

 

Granger or Ramotar/Jagdeo?

 

POP quizz?

 

DO NOT DARE DISS the political value of Nagamootoo and the AFC.  

  Ok so Lord Moses is all powerful.  He runs the PNC.  The PNC cannot do anything with him, so he told the PNC to give a criminal an award and they were powerless t stop him.

 

You cannot make a claim that Moses is all powerful, and then blame the PNC when they do something that you don't like.  If the PNC was powerful enough to give Green an award, despite whatever Moses might think, then they were powerful enough to mobilize the high turn out.

 

If they couldn't get their people out without Moses then they cannot give an award if he says no.

 

Sorry!

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

Don't dismiss what Baseman is saying. .

Lord Moses is responsible for getting black people to vote for the coalition.  No one else, or no other factor can be considered a factor.

 

So what is your issue really.  I mean didn't you Moses cultists think that he is Lord and Master and so should be credited for all the successes of the coalition, including record black turn out?

What percent you think the AFC brought?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

Don't dismiss what Baseman is saying. .

Lord Moses is responsible for getting black people to vote for the coalition.  No one else, or no other factor can be considered a factor.

 

So what is your issue really.  I mean didn't you Moses cultists think that he is Lord and Master and so should be credited for all the successes of the coalition, including record black turn out?

What percent you think the AFC brought?

Less than the margin of increase created by the very heavy G/town, Linden, and Bartica vote, and most likely among Africans and mixed voters all over Guyana.

 

The Moses cultists do not want to admit to that.  They want to fool themselves that Moses brought in an Indian vote which won the election.  When they cannot prove it, they then want to take credit for this African tsunami.

 

Now that I suggest to them that Moses is a deity who virtually controls the PNC, so the PNC shouldn't be given any credit for generating a vote large enough to offset the fact that Moses didn't bring as many Indians as was anticipated, Moses is given the main credit.

 

Well then credit Moses for ensuring that Green was given an award, because it is obvious that the mere mortal Granger would never force the Lord Moses to accept something that he felt strongly against.

 

I will withdraw my sarcasm when the cultist do what I told them to do long ago, and that is to cease giving sole credit to Moses, and to acknowledge that many factors, a PPP racist campaign against blacks, and an excellent APNU get out to vote campaign was also responsible.

 

Indeed all one needed to do was to see who showed up to coalition events on the Corentyne.  MAJORITY crowds were blacks in a part of Guyana where Indians are the dominant population.  It should have been apparent to them at that point that the racist PPP campaign against Moses Nagamootoo was having strong impact. I am sure that APNU saw that and realized that they had to have a super turn out of their base.

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

Don't dismiss what Baseman is saying. .

Lord Moses is responsible for getting black people to vote for the coalition.  No one else, or no other factor can be considered a factor.

 

So what is your issue really.  I mean didn't you Moses cultists think that he is Lord and Master and so should be credited for all the successes of the coalition, including record black turn out?

What percent you think the AFC brought?

Less than the margin of increase created by the very heavy G/town, Linden, and Bartica vote, and most likely among Africans and mixed voters all over Guyana.

 

The Moses cultists do not want to admit to that.  They want to fool themselves that Moses brought in an Indian vote which won the election.  When they cannot prove it, they then want to take credit for this African tsunami.

 

Now that I suggest to them that Moses is a deity who virtually controls the PNC, so the PNC shouldn't be given any credit for generating a vote large enough to offset the fact that Moses didn't bring as many Indians as was anticipated, Moses is given the main credit.

 

Well then credit Moses for ensuring that Green was given an award, because it is obvious that the mere mortal Granger would never force the Lord Moses to accept something that he felt strongly against.

 

I will withdraw my sarcasm when the cultist do what I told them to do long ago, and that is to cease giving sole credit to Moses, and to acknowledge that many factors, a PPP racist campaign against blacks, and an excellent APNU get out to vote campaign was also responsible.

 

Indeed all one needed to do was to see who showed up to coalition events on the Corentyne.  MAJORITY crowds were blacks in a part of Guyana where Indians are the dominant population.  It should have been apparent to them at that point that the racist PPP campaign against Moses Nagamootoo was having strong impact. I am sure that APNU saw that and realized that they had to have a super turn out of their base.

Ok, do you think he make at least a 1% difference?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
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Ok, do you think he make at least a 1% difference?

I have said hundreds of times that a heavy African/mixed turn out, combined with a small swing Indian and Amerindian turn out offset the strong Indian and Amerindian PPP vote.

 

The Moses cultist don't want to hear anything other than the Indian vote which Moses brought in was solely responsible, but cannot furnish evidence.  Now they want to give Moses full credit for the African tsunami, even after they denied that it existed.  Its only Moses, Moses, Moses.

 

Well Lord Moses does everything because he is a deity and that includes given that criminal called Hamilton Green an award.

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
.

Ok, do you think he make at least a 1% difference?

I have said hundreds of times that a heavy African/mixed turn out, combined with a small swing Indian and Amerindian turn out offset the strong Indian and Amerindian PPP vote.

 

The Moses cultist don't want to hear anything other than the Indian vote which Moses brought in was solely responsible, but cannot furnish evidence.  Now they want to give Moses full credit for the African tsunami, even after they denied that it existed.  Its only Moses, Moses, Moses.

 

Well Lord Moses does everything because he is a deity and that includes given that criminal called Hamilton Green an award.

You answer the question I never asked.  My question, do you think the AFC made at least a 1% difference?

 

I know you hate Indians, even ones in your camp.  But in all good faith, did the AFC make a 1% difference?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
.

Ok, do you think he make at least a 1% difference?

I have said hundreds of times that a heavy African/mixed turn out, combined with a small swing Indian and Amerindian turn out offset the strong Indian and Amerindian PPP vote.

 

The Moses cultist don't want to hear anything other than the Indian vote which Moses brought in was solely responsible, but cannot furnish evidence.  Now they want to give Moses full credit for the African tsunami, even after they denied that it existed.  Its only Moses, Moses, Moses.

 

Well Lord Moses does everything because he is a deity and that includes given that criminal called Hamilton Green an award.

You answer the question I never asked.  My question, do you think the AFC made at least a 1% difference?

 

I know you hate Indians, even ones in your camp.  But in all good faith, did the AFC make a 1% difference?

I said small swing Indian vote contributed to the vote.  More than that I will not say but it was NOT 20% of the Indian vote as some here will want to pretend.

 

I suggest that you talk to the people who want to be part of a black dominated coalition, yet bring their disrespect to black people with them.  In their world blacks cannot do a damn thing unless some Indian does it for them.

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
.

Ok, do you think he make at least a 1% difference?

I have said hundreds of times that a heavy African/mixed turn out, combined with a small swing Indian and Amerindian turn out offset the strong Indian and Amerindian PPP vote.

 

The Moses cultist don't want to hear anything other than the Indian vote which Moses brought in was solely responsible, but cannot furnish evidence.  Now they want to give Moses full credit for the African tsunami, even after they denied that it existed.  Its only Moses, Moses, Moses.

 

Well Lord Moses does everything because he is a deity and that includes given that criminal called Hamilton Green an award.

You answer the question I never asked.  My question, do you think the AFC made at least a 1% difference?

 

I know you hate Indians, even ones in your camp.  But in all good faith, did the AFC make a 1% difference?

I said small swing Indian vote contributed to the vote.  More than that I will not say but it was NOT 20% of the Indian vote as some here will want to pretend.

 

I suggest that you talk to the people who want to be part of a black dominated coalition, yet bring their disrespect to black people with them.  In their world blacks cannot do a damn thing unless some Indian does it for them.

Good, well shut your racist sknt up, the 1% gave you 100% glory, and that ain't pretending.  Without the 1%, you will be sucking wind, so shut up and move on.

FM
Originally Posted by KishanB:

President Granger is the Head of Parliament, while Moses Nagamootoo will be the Head of the National Assembly and of Government's business in the National Assembly.

 

Priority:

 

1.  Constitutional Reform;

2.  Anti-Money Laundering Law

Baseman and Zed will cock up and scratch each other and Moses will continue to make the changes he promises.

 

So Baseman & Zed will still be scratching now and still more while the rest of Guyana see the changes being made which they voted for.

FM
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Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Good, well shut your racist sknt up, the 1% gave you 100% glory, and that ain't pretending.  Without the 1%, you will be sucking wind, so shut up and move on.

  Yes and you should praise them for being so powerful that it was MOSES, NO ONE else that should be credited for the victory so obviously MOSES should also be credit for the Hammi Green award.

 

I have NO problem with saying that.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Good, well shut your racist sknt up, the 1% gave you 100% glory, and that ain't pretending.  Without the 1%, you will be sucking wind, so shut up and move on.

  Yes and you should praise them for being so powerful that it was MOSES, NO ONE else that should be credited for the victory so obviously MOSES should also be credit for the Hammi Green award.

 

I have NO problem with saying that.

You have no problems with anything.  But your little racist mind knows, it's the 2700 PPPites who fell for the con and switched that made the difference.

FM

Carib...I had some respect for you but I am losing it...How the heck is Moses responsible for the Hammie award too??. We can blame him for his association with APNU, but I doubt he had anything to say about this. You cant be that naive man...or you are turning into a coalition soup-drinker...have a clear head my man, we will respect you more for this, instead of making such silly statements.

V
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

Carib clearly has a problem with Indos advancing or being on equal treatment.

Of course you said that black people ran Guyana when the PPP was in power.

 

So much for your credibility.

 

I really don't know what your issue is though.  In your eyes EVERY THING that the coalition has accomplished is due to Moses.  APNU had NOTHING to do with it.

 

Well if Moses virtually runs APNU then you shouldn't have a problem with anything  that they do.  Including giving a terrorist a medal.

FM
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Originally Posted by VishMahabir:

Carib...I had some respect for you but I am losing it...How the heck is Moses responsible for the Hammie award too??.

Why not.  Moses is a deity.   He is given SOLE credit for the coalition victory.  ONLY because of Moses there was a record turn out of the PNC base.  No other factors, or no one else ought to be credited for this.  Moses ONLY!

  

So if Moses can work that magic, obviously he can direct the PNC to give a terrorist a medal too.  If he didn't want that award given he would wave is wand and voila no award.

 

I mean this is a deity we are speaking of.

FM
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