Shuman starts process to give up Canadian citizenship

Presidential Candidate of the Liberty and Justice Party, Lenox Shuman on Friday morning met with Canadian High Commissioner to Guyana, Lilian Chatterjee where he informed her of his decision to relinquish his Canadian citizenship.

A brief statement from the new political party noted that the High Commissioner was “formally” told of his decision.

Shuman has been a Canadian citizen for approximately 28 years but is Guyanese by birth; his wife is also a Canadian citizen by birth.

Chief Justice (ag) Roxane George-Wiltshire recently ruled that someone who holds dual citizenship cannot be elected to the National Assembly.

The ruling has implications for the continued presence of all Members of Parliament who have dual citizenship.

Importantly, two government ministers, namely Minister of State Joseph Harmon and Vice President and Minister of Foreign Affairs Carl Greenidge hold dual citizenship and sit as elected Members of Parliament.

 

In their case, they must be qualified to sit in the House in order to continue in office.

Neither ministers have announced if they will renounce their foreign citizenship in order to continue to sit in the House and function as Ministers.

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo had also announced that Opposition Chief Whip Gail Teixeira is prepared to give up her Canadian citizenship in order to continue to function as a Member of Parliament.

Guyana’s constitution states that  “No person shall be qualified for election as a member of the National Assembly who is by virtue of his own act, under any acknowledgment of allegiance, obedience or adherence to a foreign power or state.”

Further, it notes that to be elected as President, a person should be qualified to be a member of the National Assembly.

Shuman, at the launch of his Party, had noted then that,  “As a Parliamentarian who swears to uphold the Constitution of Guyana, my first act cannot be to break the law. It is with this that I have a firm commitment and principle that I will be giving up my Canadian citizenship status.”

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Prince posted:

Are there any genuine Guyanese politicians in Guyana today? These folks don't have Guyanese interest at heart. Where you find the other foot is where their bank accounts. These people are not foolish. 

The only genuine politicians are the ones that Stayed and fight for democracy, be it rich or poor. Also invested in Guyana where they live.

I think that most politicians in Guyana care about the country but the race card has destroyed Guyana. Hopefully a younger generation can change that and make Guyana a true multi ethnic and inclusive nation. 

As much as I don’t like Sheman running  for office, he will make an impact by 2020 in holding the PPP and PNC accountable.  This party is a threat to the PPP Amerindian Base. 

The PPP needs to take him very seriously and even offer an olive branch to him !

kp posted:
Prince posted:

Are there any genuine Guyanese politicians in Guyana today? These folks don't have Guyanese interest at heart. Where you find the other foot is where their bank accounts. These people are not foolish. 

The only genuine politicians are the ones that Stayed and fight for democracy, be it rich or poor. Also invested in Guyana where they live.

Quit the bull crap. Do you consider yourself a less than Indian because you live elsewhere? You are giving supremacy to a supranationalist doctrine here and yet having limits to nationalism in the Guyanese instance.  

Come to think of it, Guyana was Guyana under LFS Burnham. Eat what you grow, serve your country and live within your means. I believe it's time to reintroduce a semblance of Burnham's doctrine to fully understand what it means to be a Guyanese.    

D2 posted:
kp posted:
Prince posted:

Are there any genuine Guyanese politicians in Guyana today? These folks don't have Guyanese interest at heart. Where you find the other foot is where their bank accounts. These people are not foolish. 

The only genuine politicians are the ones that Stayed and fight for democracy, be it rich or poor. Also invested in Guyana where they live.

Quit the bull crap. Do you consider yourself a less than Indian because you live elsewhere? You are giving supremacy to a supranationalist doctrine here and yet having limits to nationalism in the Guyanese instance.  

Your explanation bears no relevance to what I wrote. I stated "genuine politician " not Indian African.

kp posted:
D2 posted:
kp posted:
Prince posted:

Are there any genuine Guyanese politicians in Guyana today? These folks don't have Guyanese interest at heart. Where you find the other foot is where their bank accounts. These people are not foolish. 

The only genuine politicians are the ones that Stayed and fight for democracy, be it rich or poor. Also invested in Guyana where they live.

Quit the bull crap. Do you consider yourself a less than Indian because you live elsewhere? You are giving supremacy to a supranationalist doctrine here and yet having limits to nationalism in the Guyanese instance.  

Your explanation bears no relevance to what I wrote. I stated "genuine politician " not Indian African.

do you know Guyana as ever not practicing ethnic politics? To be a politician in Guyana is synonymous to belonging  to a an ethnic based tribal group first. Nationalism is of the ancient kind and not a multi ethnic and pluralistic summoning creed.  

Prince posted:

Come to think of it, Guyana was Guyana under LFS Burnham. Eat what you grow, serve your country and live within your means. I believe it's time to reintroduce a semblance of Burnham's doctrine to fully understand what it means to be a Guyanese.    

Burnham was a big mouthed air head who had plans galore but no successful way to execute since he was a racist dictator. Every one of his five year plans made us poorer

Diversifying ones economy, investing in infrastructure and balancing manufacture and agriculture are sensible starting points for all states. In the modern world infrastructure means foremost interconnectivity and banking services and a firm foundation in incubating technology and youth business. 

I believe Guyanese politicians who hold dual citizenship status are well prepared in the event that Guyana starts jailing political opponents, they will be able to shelter in a foreign country rather than applying for political asylum. Like a quick getaway or a safe haven. No wonder everyone steals so much from Guyana treasury with impunity. 

Mr.T posted:

Is Jagdeo going to give up his Indian passport?

If Jagdeo has an Indian passport I bet he never raised his hand and swore allegiance. I believe Indian passport has no effect on Guyana since Indo-Guyanese are descendants of India. 

Prince posted:
Mr.T posted:

Is Jagdeo going to give up his Indian passport?

If Jagdeo has an Indian passport I bet he never raised his hand and swore allegiance. I believe Indian passport has no effect on Guyana since Indo-Guyanese are descendants of India. 

Many Indians came from what is now Bangla Desh and Pakistan. You just have to look at how backwards they are compared to the genuine Indians.

Mr.T posted:
Prince posted:
Mr.T posted:

Is Jagdeo going to give up his Indian passport?

If Jagdeo has an Indian passport I bet he never raised his hand and swore allegiance. I believe Indian passport has no effect on Guyana since Indo-Guyanese are descendants of India. 

Many Indians came from what is now Bangla Desh and Pakistan. You just have to look at how backwards they are compared to the genuine Indians.

Utter hogwash and pure brainless ignorance.

.Workers for plantations in Mauritius, Suriname, Trinidad, and Fiji were mainly recruited from the present-day states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. In Guyana and East Africa, laborers originated primarily from Punjab and Gujarat. Given the proximity of Tamil Nadu to French possessions in India like Pondicherry, the workers in most French colonies—such as Guadeloupe, Martinique, and La Reunion—were Tamils and almost all male.

skeldon_man posted:

.Workers for plantations in Mauritius, Suriname, Trinidad, and Fiji were mainly recruited from the present-day states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. In Guyana and East Africa, laborers originated primarily from Punjab and Gujarat. Given the proximity of Tamil Nadu to French possessions in India like Pondicherry, the workers in most French colonies—such as Guadeloupe, Martinique, and La Reunion—were Tamils and almost all male.

That statement is incorrect .

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

.Workers for plantations in Mauritius, Suriname, Trinidad, and Fiji were mainly recruited from the present-day states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. In Guyana and East Africa, laborers originated primarily from Punjab and Gujarat. Given the proximity of Tamil Nadu to French possessions in India like Pondicherry, the workers in most French colonies—such as Guadeloupe, Martinique, and La Reunion—were Tamils and almost all male.

That statement is incorrect .

Can you prove it? I have documented source to prove my point. My mother's parents came from Gujarat and my father from Northern India(includes Pakistan), Afghanistan, Nepal and Bhutan.

The Indian workers were taken from regions where the locals had equivalent skills to the former slaves that they were replacing. That means cane cutting, rice farming, and cotton harvesting. Skelly seems to have had forefathers who embellished the info in their CV in order to escape poverty in Asia.

skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

.Workers for plantations in Mauritius, Suriname, Trinidad, and Fiji were mainly recruited from the present-day states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. In Guyana and East Africa, laborers originated primarily from Punjab and Gujarat. Given the proximity of Tamil Nadu to French possessions in India like Pondicherry, the workers in most French colonies—such as Guadeloupe, Martinique, and La Reunion—were Tamils and almost all male.

That statement is incorrect .

Can you prove it? I have documented source to prove my point. My mother's parents came from Gujarat and my father from Northern India(includes Pakistan), Afghanistan, Nepal and Bhutan.

Not because your ancestors, came from there the majority are from there. I do have information, it's too large to post here.

Please take a look at the map of India  where , Bihar , Madras [Tamil Nadu] and Calcutta [Kolkata] are, you will get an idea.Also there are information on the net, where majority of Indian Indentured Immigrants originates from.

Mr.T posted:

The Indian workers were taken from regions where the locals had equivalent skills to the former slaves that they were replacing. That means cane cutting, rice farming, and cotton harvesting. Skelly seems to have had forefathers who embellished the info in their CV in order to escape poverty in Asia.

They went and made an honest living and paved the way for people like us in NA. As I said, I am eternally grateful that they migrated from India to British Guiana. They made an honest living there and their descendants continue to work hard and carry on their traits.

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

.Workers for plantations in Mauritius, Suriname, Trinidad, and Fiji were mainly recruited from the present-day states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. In Guyana and East Africa, laborers originated primarily from Punjab and Gujarat. Given the proximity of Tamil Nadu to French possessions in India like Pondicherry, the workers in most French colonies—such as Guadeloupe, Martinique, and La Reunion—were Tamils and almost all male.

That statement is incorrect .

Can you prove it? I have documented source to prove my point. My mother's parents came from Gujarat and my father from Northern India(includes Pakistan), Afghanistan, Nepal and Bhutan.

Not because your ancestors, came from there the majority are from there. I do have information, it's too large to post here.

Please take a look at the map of India  where , Bihar , Madras [Tamil Nadu] and Calcutta are, you will get an idea.

I do not doubt you, bro. The word you have to understand id "PRIMARILY".

Bi, I looked at the map before.

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

.Workers for plantations in Mauritius, Suriname, Trinidad, and Fiji were mainly recruited from the present-day states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. In Guyana and East Africa, laborers originated primarily from Punjab and Gujarat. Given the proximity of Tamil Nadu to French possessions in India like Pondicherry, the workers in most French colonies—such as Guadeloupe, Martinique, and La Reunion—were Tamils and almost all male.

That statement is incorrect .

Can you prove it? I have documented source to prove my point. My mother's parents came from Gujarat and my father from Northern India(includes Pakistan), Afghanistan, Nepal and Bhutan.

Not because your ancestors, came from there the majority are from there. I do have information, it's too large to post here.

Please take a look at the map of India  where , Bihar , Madras [Tamil Nadu] and Calcutta [Kolkata] are, you will get an idea.Also there are information on the net, where majority of Indian Indentured Immigrants originates from.

My grandfather told my older brother(was his oldest grandson and they spent a lot of time together) that he came from Mathura, India. I looked this up after I got my DNA results.

skeldon_man posted:

I do not doubt you, bro. The word you have to understand id "PRIMARILY".

Bi, I looked at the map before.

Workers for plantations in Mauritius, Suriname, Trinidad, and Fiji were mainly recruited from the present-day states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. In Guyana and East Africa, laborers originated primarily from Punjab and Gujarat.

Now tell what's the huge difference between the two underlined words ?

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

.Workers for plantations in Mauritius, Suriname, Trinidad, and Fiji were mainly recruited from the present-day states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. In Guyana and East Africa, laborers originated primarily from Punjab and Gujarat. Given the proximity of Tamil Nadu to French possessions in India like Pondicherry, the workers in most French colonies—such as Guadeloupe, Martinique, and La Reunion—were Tamils and almost all male.

That statement is incorrect .

Well, prove what is correct.

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