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CGID seeks clarification from US ambassador to Guyana

February 12 2020

https://www.caribbeanlifenews....2020-02-0-14-cl.html

On Feb. 9, 2020, United States Members of Congress Gregory Meeks and Yvette Clarke, hosted a town hall meeting in Brooklyn, to brief the Guyanese-American community on their recent fact finding mission to Guyana. The Congressional delegation, which was led by Congressman Albio Sires, visited Guyana on Jan. 22, 2020.

At said meeting, I brought to the attention of the legislators, the following Sept. 19, 2019 joint statement by United States of America Ambassador to Guyana, H.E. Ambassador Sarah-Ann Lynch, United Kingdom High Commissioner to Guyana, H.E. Greg Quinn and the European Union Ambassador to Guyana, H.E. Ambassador Fernando Ponz Cantó.

QUOTE: “The United States, United Kingdom and the European Union thank the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) for devising a proposed elections timeframe for conducting General and Regional Elections. However, we deeply regret that, by surpassing September 18, the Government is currently in breach of the Constitution following its failure to adhere to the decisions of the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) on 18 June and its subsequent orders. This situation comes at great cost to the people of Guyana. The prevailing political uncertainty undermines Guyanese institutions, compromises economic opportunities and delays development across all areas including infrastructure, education, health, and social services. It also hinders our ability to support Guyana’s development needs. We therefore call upon the President to set an elections date immediately in full compliance with Guyana’s constituti­on.” END QUOTE.

The members of Congress unequivocally disagreed that the APNU+AFC coalition government had breached the Constitution of Guyana. They contended that there was no evidence of any constitutional violation. Moreover, the Members of Congress said the United States ambassador to Guyana had affirmed this conclusion.

 

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Django posted:

Not good news for the peeps on the forum,as the saying goes "it is what it is"

The CCJ ruled that Patterson''s selection was extra constitutional. Burke is wise to know t he APNU skirted the rules judicially to remain in office for over a year when the constitution demanded elections in 90 days. You were here elaborating all sorts of theories as to why they were right. That was not your finest hour. 

The reality was they used the letter of the law to skirt the intent of the law. 33 was not a majority in our parliament. Dual citizens were never problematic until they found themselves on the other side of a No confidence vote. Britain called elections and it was done in  a few weeks.

I bet the conservatives could have prolonged their stay with spurious judicial contests. However, they knew well that justice demands reasonable arguments not the crap presented by the corruptocrats in the APNU. Everyone knew why they did as they did. Everyone is 90 percent sure they are gaming the system. That is how much they are trusted to comply with the constitution. Indeed a thing is what it is or not. The APNU are exactly as we always knew them to be.

FM
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ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments.

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.  

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

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Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

FM
Last edited by Django
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments. 

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.   

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

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535
 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Saw this on FB last night. I am sure Django did too and failed to mention it here as a supplemental to his Dickford Burke garbage.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments. 

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.   

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Saw this on FB last night. I am sure Django did too and failed to mention it here as a supplemental to his Dickford Burke garbage.

So what is different on FB ,than what the article says ? is Burke lying ?

Hopefully some are aware ,there was a town hall meeting  in the US ,where the Congress person made the declaration to the constituents.

Doubting thomases thinks US Congress persons ,reports to the media ,US Ambassador and politicians in Guyana.

Django
Last edited by Django
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments. 

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.   

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Saw this on FB last night. I am sure Django did too and failed to mention it here as a supplemental to his Dickford Burke garbage.

So what is different on FB ,than what the article says ? just asking .

Hopefully some are aware ,there was a town hall meeting  in the US ,where the Congress person made the declaration to the constituents.

Doubting thomases thinks US Congress persons ,Guyana.reports to the media ,US Ambassador and politicians in Guyana.

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

FM
Last edited by Django
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments. 

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.   

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Saw this on FB last night. I am sure Django did too and failed to mention it here as a supplemental to his Dickford Burke garbage.

So what is different on FB ,than what the article says ? just asking .

Hopefully some are aware ,there was a town hall meeting  in the US ,where the Congress person made the declaration to the constituents.

Doubting thomases thinks US Congress persons ,reports to the media.US Ambassador and politicians in Guyana.

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Django
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Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments. 

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.   

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Saw this on FB last night. I am sure Django did too and failed to mention it here as a supplemental to his Dickford Burke garbage.

So what is different on FB ,than what the article says ? just asking .

Hopefully some are aware ,there was a town hall meeting  in the US ,where the Congress person made the declaration to the constituents.

Doubting thomases thinks US Congress persons ,reports to the media and politicians in Guyana.

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Yes. They did that so they can get the Guyanese votes in NY. Do you really think they care? Perry Holloway was working with the Gay Boy to deny a recount.

FM
Django posted:

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Most of the time congress people do not know a damn what is happening on the ground. GID uses their local congress persons artfully. I also doubt any of these three people said the US should stay out of Guyanese affairs. If so what are they doing? The APNU has gamed our system via the legal process to remain in office for a year no less than Ramotar in proroguing parliament to avoid an NCV. Remember these were the same crows insisting he did an illegal act.

GID looking to the September date  was a concession by the PPP to an already onerous delaying tactic by the APNU. They then used the idea of securing a valid voters list to delay the elections further and now we ended up with a list of electors that is bloated twice as much as they themselves argued.  The vile  tactics of the APNU disgusts me and at this point vehemence against them by most Guyanese should be personal. 

FM
D2 posted:
Django posted:

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Most of the time congress people do not know a damn what is happening on the ground. GID uses their local congress persons artfully. I also doubt any of these three people said the US should stay out of Guyanese affairs. If so what are they doing? The APNU has gamed our system via the legal process to remain in office for a year no less than Ramotar in proroguing parliament to avoid an NCV. Remember these were the same crows insisting he did an illegal act.

GID looking to the September date  was a concession by the PPP to an already onerous delaying tactic by the APNU. They then used the idea of securing a valid voters list to delay the elections further and now we ended up with a list of electors that is bloated twice as much as they themselves argued.  The vile  tactics of the APNU disgusts me and at this point vehemence against them by most Guyanese should be personal. 

Albert Baldeo had photo op with one of the Congressman that went to Guyana ,thanking them.

The whole mess in Guyana politics is because ,some politicians thinks it's easy to grab power .One have to look and see what played out by the Opposition Leader after Granger became ill.

There would have been no bloated voters list ,all parties agreed for H2H ,which wasn't held in 10 yrs ,money was passed in parliament. Then came the NCM , the rest is history.

Django
Last edited by Django

Comrade Granger and comrade Nagamootoo has all Guyanese interests at heart. He did everything legally and to save Guyana from the corrupted comrades in the PPP.  We hope he lead the Coalition to a big victory march 2 and take Guyana forward for all. 

FM
Django posted:
D2 posted:
Django posted:

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Most of the time congress people do not know a damn what is happening on the ground. GID uses their local congress persons artfully. I also doubt any of these three people said the US should stay out of Guyanese affairs. If so what are they doing? The APNU has gamed our system via the legal process to remain in office for a year no less than Ramotar in proroguing parliament to avoid an NCV. Remember these were the same crows insisting he did an illegal act.

GID looking to the September date  was a concession by the PPP to an already onerous delaying tactic by the APNU. They then used the idea of securing a valid voters list to delay the elections further and now we ended up with a list of electors that is bloated twice as much as they themselves argued.  The vile  tactics of the APNU disgusts me and at this point vehemence against them by most Guyanese should be personal. 

Albert Baldeo had photo op with one of the Congressman that went to Guyana ,thanking them.

The whole mess in Guyana politics is because ,some politicians thinks it's easy to grab power .One have to look and see what played out by the Opposition Leader after Granger became ill.

There would have been no bloated voters list ,all parties agreed for H2H ,which wasn't held in 10 yrs ,money was passed in parliament , then came the NCM , the rest is history.

"Money was passed in parliament" what do you know about that and show the evidence?? don't throw shit to stick.

K
Zara posted:

Comrade Granger and comrade Nagamootoo has all Guyanese interests at heart. He did everything legally and to save Guyana from the corrupted comrades in the PPP.  We hope he lead the Coalition to a big victory march 2 and take Guyana forward for all. 

Quit repeating the same inane crap endlessly. Granger is as charismatic as a bigan and Nagamoottoo is long past his expiration date and has no meaning to anyone but to possibly you and his family. Even Granger can tell you that. If the APNU win it is because the gamed the system. 

FM
kp posted:
Django posted:
D2 posted:
Django posted:

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Most of the time congress people do not know a damn what is happening on the ground. GID uses their local congress persons artfully. I also doubt any of these three people said the US should stay out of Guyanese affairs. If so what are they doing? The APNU has gamed our system via the legal process to remain in office for a year no less than Ramotar in proroguing parliament to avoid an NCV. Remember these were the same crows insisting he did an illegal act.

GID looking to the September date  was a concession by the PPP to an already onerous delaying tactic by the APNU. They then used the idea of securing a valid voters list to delay the elections further and now we ended up with a list of electors that is bloated twice as much as they themselves argued.  The vile  tactics of the APNU disgusts me and at this point vehemence against them by most Guyanese should be personal. 

Albert Baldeo had photo op with one of the Congressman that went to Guyana ,thanking them.

The whole mess in Guyana politics is because ,some politicians thinks it's easy to grab power .One have to look and see what played out by the Opposition Leader after Granger became ill.

There would have been no bloated voters list ,all parties agreed for H2H ,which wasn't held in 10 yrs ,money was passed in parliament. [correction to sentence] Then came the NCM , the rest is history.

"Money was passed in parliament" what do you know about that and show the evidence?? don't throw shit to stick.

Money was passed  (voted ) in (by) parliament  for H2H registration.

Django
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Zara posted:

Comrade Granger and comrade Nagamootoo has all Guyanese interests at heart. He did everything legally and to save Guyana from the corrupted comrades in the PPP.  We hope he lead the Coalition to a big victory march 2 and take Guyana forward for all. 

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FM
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments.

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.  

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

0
535
 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Bai, Django trying to sell snake oil. 😀

FM
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments. 

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.   

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Saw this on FB last night. I am sure Django did too and failed to mention it here as a supplemental to his Dickford Burke garbage.

So what is different on FB ,than what the article says ? is Burke lying ?

Hopefully some are aware ,there was a town hall meeting  in the US ,where the Congress person made the declaration to the constituents.

Doubting thomases thinks US Congress persons ,reports to the media ,US Ambassador and politicians in Guyana.

Bai right in America the media saying one thing and the politicians saying the opposite but both saying they are correct. Where did the Ambassador agree with Meeks’ assessment?

FM
Django posted:
D2 posted:
Django posted:

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Most of the time congress people do not know a damn what is happening on the ground. GID uses their local congress persons artfully. I also doubt any of these three people said the US should stay out of Guyanese affairs. If so what are they doing? The APNU has gamed our system via the legal process to remain in office for a year no less than Ramotar in proroguing parliament to avoid an NCV. Remember these were the same crows insisting he did an illegal act.

GID looking to the September date  was a concession by the PPP to an already onerous delaying tactic by the APNU. They then used the idea of securing a valid voters list to delay the elections further and now we ended up with a list of electors that is bloated twice as much as they themselves argued.  The vile  tactics of the APNU disgusts me and at this point vehemence against them by most Guyanese should be personal. 

Albert Baldeo had photo op with one of the Congressman that went to Guyana ,thanking them.

The whole mess in Guyana politics is because ,some politicians thinks it's easy to grab power .One have to look and see what played out by the Opposition Leader after Granger became ill.

There would have been no bloated voters list ,all parties agreed for H2H ,which wasn't held in 10 yrs ,money was passed in parliament. Then came the NCM , the rest is history.

Let me reiterate what is standard practice the world over with building valid  voters list. The old voters list is the workable starting point.  Hoyte insisted on this and delayed elections two year to clean this up. Statistically, this should be the most secure starting point.

 

This APNU wanted to start all over with the counting process with nothing to compare the data with statistically. People do not move often and especially Guyanese. There would be no bloated list if the process of ongoing registration and purging was in place. That is the mandate of the constitution if ever a 90 day turnover to election was ever possible. 

But as usual, anything in Guyana has a rube goldberg solution. Alexander et al did not want to purge the old list of dead and migrated and post it in local jurisdictions where the people can check if they are on it and register. 

What is being missed is we do not have compulsory voting so why all the crap about compulsory house to house registration? Voting is a civic duty and if the people do not see it worthwhile to participate that is their choice. The house to house ruse is and always an APNU ruse to delay elections. There was no necessity for it. 

Sensible people could have delivered valid elections promptly. India did it in 50 days with 900 million electors and hundreds of thousands of polling sites. The brits did it in a few weeks. We are in this process for over a year and still have an almost 50 percent calculable error rate. No APNU person is complaining as they did before. As night follows day they are rigging our elections as we speak.

FM
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ksazma posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments. 

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.   

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Saw this on FB last night. I am sure Django did too and failed to mention it here as a supplemental to his Dickford Burke garbage.

So what is different on FB ,than what the article says ? is Burke lying ?

Hopefully some are aware ,there was a town hall meeting  in the US ,where the Congress person made the declaration to the constituents.

Doubting thomases thinks US Congress persons ,reports to the media ,US Ambassador and politicians in Guyana.

Bai right in America the media saying one thing and the politicians saying the opposite but both saying they are correct. Where did the Ambassador agree with Meeks’ assessment?

Bhai ,read the article , not only Meeks was in Guyana .In America you can question a Congressman ,send them an email.

Django
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Dave posted:
Zara posted:

Comrade Granger and comrade Nagamootoo has all Guyanese interests at heart. He did everything legally and to save Guyana from the corrupted comrades in the PPP.  We hope he lead the Coalition to a big victory march 2 and take Guyana forward for all. 

If he is PNC, then he can become President when Granger dead, the Neemaak prappa smart. Zara Mamoo screwed the AFC, now will Bugg--r the PNC. Loku story deh!

K
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

 

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Visiting Guyana means nothing. The Coalition are in Guyana everyday and they still pretending that they did not violate the constitution when everyone else knows that they did.

FM
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
 

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Visiting Guyana means nothing. The Coalition are in Guyana everyday and they still pretending that they did not violate the constitution when everyone else knows that they did.

Did you follow the US Congress delegation to Guyana recently ? me thinks you busy and missed it.

When PPP time in gov't ,Congressional visit is great ,now that the APNU-AFC in government it's waste visit.

Django
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Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Bai, Django trying to sell snake oil. 😀

What snake oil ? the statement was made by the Congress person.

Well learned judges at the CCJ said Granger violated the constitution. How would Meeks and the others know better than those learned judges? Meeks doesn’t even know what is going on in his NY district how can he know what is going on in Guyana? Getting a few PNC supporters in Brooklyn to give him lil food is enough for him to lie about the violations of the Coalition.

FM
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
 

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Visiting Guyana means nothing. The Coalition are in Guyana everyday and they still pretending that they did not violate the constitution when everyone else knows that they did.

Did you follow the US Congress delegation to Guyana recently ? me thinks you busy and missed it.

There is no way I am buying their snake oil bai. They can never know more than those learned CCJ judges.

FM
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Bai, Django trying to sell snake oil. 😀

What snake oil ? the statement was made by the Congress person.

Well learned judges at the CCJ said Granger violated the constitution. How would Meeks and the others know better than those learned judges? Meeks doesn’t even know what is going on in his NY district how can he know what is going on in Guyana? Getting a few PNC supporters in Brooklyn to give him lil food is enough for him to lie about the violations of the Coalition.

Banna not Meeks alone was in Guyana.

Django
Zara posted:

Comrade Granger and comrade Nagamootoo has all Guyanese interests at heart. He did everything legally and to save Guyana from the corrupted comrades in the PPP.  We hope he lead the Coalition to a big victory march 2 and take Guyana forward for all. 

Comrade Commie Zara: You want somebody to soak a rope in cooking oil and drop your pants. Whip your ass until you say, "I would not be saying Comrade Granger and comrade Nagamootoo has all Guyanese interests at heart". Have you seen Roots? You might be calling yourself Toby.

FM
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Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Bai, Django trying to sell snake oil. 😀

What snake oil ? the statement was made by the Congress person.

Well learned judges at the CCJ said Granger violated the constitution. How would Meeks and the others know better than those learned judges? Meeks doesn’t even know what is going on in his NY district how can he know what is going on in Guyana? Getting a few PNC supporters in Brooklyn to give him lil food is enough for him to lie about the violations of the Coalition.

Banna not Meeks alone was in Guyana.

It is irrelevant. Those CCJ judges took the time to study the constitution as well as the actions of granger and they determined that granger violated the constitution. Since when yuh start believing politicians bai? 😀

FM

Kaz, Democrat Congress people are it again. You see where me coming from ? 
According to them PNC did nothing wrong and are saints. 
Yet, Guyanese are willing to give their firstborn to these wicked politicians. 

FM

The hypocrisy displaying here  is funny. 
Firstly, The US Ambassador is on record as saying the Granger government violated the constitution. Granger and his foreign minister criticized American for involving in Guyana affairs ( but they were ok in 2014 when Ramotar prologue parliament😊) 

The poster even change the subject justifying his beliefs, knowing the US Ambassador criticizes Granger ( that subject is in the archives here where he contribute 😊) - suddenly, Rickford is quoting the Ambassador without any verification, and the very  Ambassador, Rickford take to task about constitution violation in September 2019 lol 😂 

Diplomats declare Guyana government in breach of constitution as first oil looms

 

(Reuters) - U.S. and European diplomats on Thursday declared Guyana's government in breach of the country's constitution until new elections are held and called on Guyanese President David Granger to "set an elections date immediately" or possibly face a cutoff of development funding.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/mo...le/amp/idUSKBN1W42OG

FM
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Sean posted:

Kaz, Democrat Congress people are it again. You see where me coming from ? 
According to them PNC did nothing wrong and are saints. 
Yet, Guyanese are willing to give their firstborn to these wicked politicians. 

Bai at least in America we don’t have to worry about Trump delaying and rigging the next elections like we do with granger 

FM
Zara posted:

Comrade Granger and comrade Nagamootoo has all Guyanese interests at heart. He did everything legally and to save Guyana from the corrupted comrades in the PPP.  We hope he lead the Coalition to a big victory march 2 and take Guyana forward for all. 

Ohhh reallllllyyyyyyyy ?????   

Perhaps, you are oblivious of the CCJ rulings/decisions on the matter.

For starters; the December 2018 decision on the non confidence is valid.

FM
Dave posted:

The hypocrisy displaying here  is funny. 
Firstly, The US Ambassador is on record as saying the Granger government violated the constitution. Granger and his foreign minister criticized American for involving in Guyana affairs ( but they were ok in 2014 when Ramotar prologue parliament😊) 

The poster even change the subject justifying his beliefs, knowing the US Ambassador criticizes Granger ( that subject is in the archives here where he contribute 😊) - suddenly, Rickford is quoting the Ambassador without any verification, and the very  Ambassador, Rickford take to task about constitution violation in September 2019 lol 😂 

Diplomats declare Guyana government in breach of constitution as first oil looms

 

(Reuters) - U.S. and European diplomats on Thursday declared Guyana's government in breach of the country's constitution until new elections are held and called on Guyanese President David Granger to "set an elections date immediately" or possibly face a cutoff of development funding.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/mo...le/amp/idUSKBN1W42OG

Bai Django wutliss. He trying to pull wutlissness heah but he wasting he time. 😀

Burke is a jackass.

FM
ksazma posted:
Dave posted:

The hypocrisy displaying here  is funny. 
Firstly, The US Ambassador is on record as saying the Granger government violated the constitution. Granger and his foreign minister criticized American for involving in Guyana affairs ( but they were ok in 2014 when Ramotar prologue parliament😊) 

The poster even change the subject justifying his beliefs, knowing the US Ambassador criticizes Granger ( that subject is in the archives here where he contribute 😊) - suddenly, Rickford is quoting the Ambassador without any verification, and the very  Ambassador, Rickford take to task about constitution violation in September 2019 lol 😂 

Diplomats declare Guyana government in breach of constitution as first oil looms

 

(Reuters) - U.S. and European diplomats on Thursday declared Guyana's government in breach of the country's constitution until new elections are held and called on Guyanese President David Granger to "set an elections date immediately" or possibly face a cutoff of development funding.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/mo...le/amp/idUSKBN1W42OG

Bai Django wutliss. He trying to pull wutlissness heah but he wasting he time. 😀

Burke is a jackass.

Diplomats declare Guyana government in breach of constitution as first oil looms

September 19, 2019 / 2:18 PM / 5 months ago

That article was 5 months ago


 

February 12 2020

https://www.caribbeanlifenews....2020-02-0-14-cl.html

At said meeting, I brought to the attention of the legislators, the following Sept. 19, 2019 joint statement by United States of America Ambassador to Guyana, H.E. Ambassador Sarah-Ann Lynch, United Kingdom High Commissioner to Guyana, H.E. Greg Quinn and the European Union Ambassador to Guyana, H.E. Ambassador Fernando Ponz Cantó.

QUOTE: “The United States, United Kingdom and the European Union thank the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) for devising a proposed elections timeframe for conducting General and Regional Elections. However, we deeply regret that, by surpassing September 18, the Government is currently in breach of the Constitution following its failure to adhere to the decisions of the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) on 18 June and its subsequent orders. This situation comes at great cost to the people of Guyana. The prevailing political uncertainty undermines Guyanese institutions, compromises economic opportunities and delays development across all areas including infrastructure, education, health, and social services. It also hinders our ability to support Guyana’s development needs. We therefore call upon the President to set an elections date immediately in full compliance with Guyana’s constituti­on.” END QUOTE.

The members of Congress unequivocally disagreed that the APNU+AFC coalition government had breached the Constitution of Guyana. They contended that there was no evidence of any constitutional violation. Moreover, the Members of Congress said the United States ambassador to Guyana had affirmed this conclusion.

Django
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ksazma posted:

Where is the ambassador’s statement bai?

Members of Congress said the United States ambassador to Guyana had affirmed this conclusion.

The members of Congress unequivocally disagreed that the APNU+AFC coalition government had breached the Constitution of Guyana. They contended that there was no evidence of any constitutional violation.

Members of Congress can have Discussions with the US Ambassador of Guyana ,regarding gathering of information ,on the mission to Guyana.

The US Ambassador don't have to make a separate statement or call any one in Guyana and hey , i have taken back my word.

Django
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Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Where is the ambassador’s statement bai?

Members of Congress said the United States ambassador to Guyana had affirmed this conclusion.

The members of Congress unequivocally disagreed that the APNU+AFC coalition government had breached the Constitution of Guyana. They contended that there was no evidence of any constitutional violation.

Members of Congress can have Discussions with the US Ambassador of Guyana ,regarding their findings on the mission to Guyana.

That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority. Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.

FM

And then we have Baldeo and his fake heart attack and his shamelessness in lying in that hospital bed to avoid sentencing. The judge still clap a good sentence on his wicked ass.

FM
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Where is the ambassador’s statement bai?

Members of Congress said the United States ambassador to Guyana had affirmed this conclusion.

The members of Congress unequivocally disagreed that the APNU+AFC coalition government had breached the Constitution of Guyana. They contended that there was no evidence of any constitutional violation.

Members of Congress can have Discussions with the US Ambassador of Guyana ,regarding their findings on the mission to Guyana.

That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.

Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.

Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.

Django
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Django posted:
ksazma posted:

That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.

Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.

Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.

One will have allegiance to a country.

Some will steadfastly always have allegiance to a politician.

However, no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician.

FM
D2 posted:
Django posted:
D2 posted:
Django posted:

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Most of the time congress people do not know a damn what is happening on the ground. GID uses their local congress persons artfully. I also doubt any of these three people said the US should stay out of Guyanese affairs. If so what are they doing? The APNU has gamed our system via the legal process to remain in office for a year no less than Ramotar in proroguing parliament to avoid an NCV. Remember these were the same crows insisting he did an illegal act.

GID looking to the September date  was a concession by the PPP to an already onerous delaying tactic by the APNU. They then used the idea of securing a valid voters list to delay the elections further and now we ended up with a list of electors that is bloated twice as much as they themselves argued.  The vile  tactics of the APNU disgusts me and at this point vehemence against them by most Guyanese should be personal. 

Albert Baldeo had photo op with one of the Congressman that went to Guyana ,thanking them.

The whole mess in Guyana politics is because ,some politicians thinks it's easy to grab power .One have to look and see what played out by the Opposition Leader after Granger became ill.

There would have been no bloated voters list ,all parties agreed for H2H ,which wasn't held in 10 yrs ,money was passed in parliament. Then came the NCM , the rest is history.

Let me reiterate what is standard practice the world over with building valid  voters list. The old voters list is the workable starting point.  Hoyte insisted on this and delayed elections two year to clean this up. Statistically, this should be the most secure starting point.

This APNU wanted to start all over with the counting process with nothing to compare the data with statistically. People do not move often and especially Guyanese. There would be no bloated list if the process of ongoing registration and purging was in place. That is the mandate of the constitution if ever a 90 day turnover to election was ever possible. 

But as usual, anything in Guyana has a rube goldberg solution.

Alexander et al did not want to purge the old list of dead and migrated and post it in local jurisdictions where the people can check if they are on it and register. 

What is being missed is we do not have compulsory voting so why all the crap about compulsory house to house registration? Voting is a civic duty and if the people do not see it worthwhile to participate that is their choice. The house to house ruse is and always an APNU ruse to delay elections. There was no necessity for it. 

Sensible people could have delivered valid elections promptly. India did it in 50 days with 900 million electors and hundreds of thousands of polling sites. The brits did it in a few weeks. We are in this process for over a year and still have an almost 50 percent calculable error rate. No APNU person is complaining as they did before. As night follows day they are rigging our elections as we speak.

There is another problem ,the appeal court,recently ruled migrants to other countries names can't be removed from voters list.

Django
Demerara_Guy posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.

Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.

Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.

One will have allegiance to a country.

Some will steadfastly always have allegiance to a politician.

However, no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician.

Understood, US Officials elected to office ,represents the US and their constituencies. US Congressman isn't an ordinary person in US Governance.

Django
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Where is the ambassador’s statement bai?

Members of Congress said the United States ambassador to Guyana had affirmed this conclusion.

The members of Congress unequivocally disagreed that the APNU+AFC coalition government had breached the Constitution of Guyana. They contended that there was no evidence of any constitutional violation.

Members of Congress can have Discussions with the US Ambassador of Guyana ,regarding their findings on the mission to Guyana.

That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.

Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.

Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.

Bai, my allegiance is 100% to America. But this is not about allegiance. It is about validity and in the matter being discussed, the CCJ judges takes precedence over all other mentioned. You just trying to defend the indefensible.

FM
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Where is the ambassador’s statement bai?

Members of Congress said the United States ambassador to Guyana had affirmed this conclusion.

The members of Congress unequivocally disagreed that the APNU+AFC coalition government had breached the Constitution of Guyana. They contended that there was no evidence of any constitutional violation.

Members of Congress can have Discussions with the US Ambassador of Guyana ,regarding their findings on the mission to Guyana.

That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.

Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.

Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.

Bai, my allegiance is 100% to America. But this is not about allegiance. It is about validity and in the matter being discussed, the CCJ judges takes precedence over all other mentioned. You just trying to defend the indefensible.

I have respect for US Elected Officials ,the represent the people and the Country.

Django

Some people live in denialism. Their belief is part of themselves and refuse to part with it, although the facts are presented to them. They believe that the truth is “ accepting defeat “ 

Lets look back at another situation, the United Nation recently condemned Guyana for ignoring a court order and violating the constitution, Django, posted links upon links, trying to say it’s not so, he even tried to discredit the news source in Guyana who breaks the news. A video was posted of the speech, this banna criticized the 16 second video, it’s rite hay in the archives. 
Now, how is it convenient to accept Rickford statement, knowing the credibility of this individual how controversial he is and US Ambassador has not issued any such statement, except the one condemning Granger government. 

FM
Django posted:

Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.

You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . that’s what you need to show. 

FM
Django posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.

Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.

Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.

One will have allegiance to a country.

Some will steadfastly always have allegiance to a politician.

However, no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician.

Understood, US Officials elected to office ,represents the US and their constituencies. US Congressman isn't an ordinary person in US Governance.

Indeed, they have profound responsibilities to do so as a U.S Senator or a Member of the House of Representative.

However as stated above ...  no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician ...     an important aspect of their roles/functions.

Oath of Office

U.S House of Representatives

“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3

Source -- https://history.house.gov/Inst...ment/Oath-of-Office/

FM
Demerara_Guy posted:
Django posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.

Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.

Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.

One will have allegiance to a country.

Some will steadfastly always have allegiance to a politician.

However, no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician.

Understood, US Officials elected to office ,represents the US and their constituencies. US Congressman isn't an ordinary person in US Governance.

Indeed, they have profound responsibilities to do so as a U.S Senator or a Member of the House of Representative.

However as stated above ...  no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician ...     an important aspect of their roles/functions.

Oath of Office

U.S House of Representatives

“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3

Source -- https://history.house.gov/Inst...ment/Oath-of-Office/

I think they may have a hard time accepting this too .. heh heh 

FM
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Dave posted:
Django posted:

Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.

You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . that’s what you need to show. 

It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.

Django
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:

Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.

You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . that’s what you need to show. 

It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.

Do you really think those people give a rat's ass about Guyana? All they care about is the Guyanese votes. They could care less if Guyana is swallowed up by the ocean. I bet some PNC members prodded them to visit. It's like paying lip service.

FM
Demerara_Guy posted:
Django posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.

Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.

Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.

One will have allegiance to a country.

Some will steadfastly always have allegiance to a politician.

However, no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician.

Understood,

US Officials elected to office ,represents the US and their constituencies. US Congressman isn't an ordinary person in US Governance.

Indeed, they have profound responsibilities to do so as a U.S Senator or a Member of the House of Representative.

However as stated above ...  no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician ...     an important aspect of their roles/functions.

Oath of Office

U.S House of Representatives

“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3

Source -- https://history.house.gov/Inst...ment/Oath-of-Office/

What your explanation about ? what makes you thinks Americans don't know the duties of their Senators and Congressman ?

Are you implying i said  "one is obligated to have allegiance to any politicians"

Django
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Django posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:

Indeed, they have profound responsibilities to do so as a U.S Senator or a Member of the House of Representative.

However as stated above ...  no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician ...     an important aspect of their roles/functions.

Oath of Office

U.S House of Representatives

“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3

Source -- https://history.house.gov/Inst...ment/Oath-of-Office/

What your explanation about ? what makes you thinks Americans don't know the duties of their Senators and Congressman ?

Are you implying i said  "one is obligated to have allegiance to any politicians"

My statement made absolutely no such reference.

FM
Dave posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Django posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

That is insufficient. She does have a mouth of her own. The CCJ judges are the best authority.

Even better than the ambassador and by far better than those paid Congressional members who clearly talking nonsense.

Banna , you are putting down US Officials . Where are your allegiance ? if i may ask.

One will have allegiance to a country.

Some will steadfastly always have allegiance to a politician.

However, no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician.

Understood, US Officials elected to office ,represents the US and their constituencies. US Congressman isn't an ordinary person in US Governance.

Indeed, they have profound responsibilities to do so as a U.S Senator or a Member of the House of Representative.

However as stated above ...  no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician ...     an important aspect of their roles/functions.

Oath of Office

U.S House of Representatives

“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3

Source -- https://history.house.gov/Inst...ment/Oath-of-Office/

I think they may have a hard time accepting this too .. heh heh 

What makes you thinks Americans don't know the duties of their Senators ,Congressman and the Constitution. Americans have two Constitution one is State and the other is Federal.

Also what have you gathered from DemGuy post ?

Django
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Django posted:

What your explanation about ? what makes you thinks Americans don't know the duties of their Senators and Congressman ?

Indeed, there are many U.S citizens who know that issue.

FM
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Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:

Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.

You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . that’s what you need to show. 

It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.

Isn't Meeks that took bribe, his words bear no weight. Look what the PNC did to Gayle?

K
Demerara_Guy posted:
Django posted:

What your explanation about ? what makes you thinks Americans don't know the duties of their Senators and Congressman ?

Are you implying i said  "one is obligated to have allegiance to any politicians"

Indeed, there are many U.S citizens who know that issue.

Americans are very serious about their Constitutional rights ,as such they know the Constitution of their State and Federal.

Django
kp posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:

Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.

You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . that’s what you need to show. 

It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.

Isn't Meeks that took bribe, his words bear no weight. Look what the PNC did to Gayle?

He got off ,you probably know the story involving the NYC real estate mogul.

Regarding Gale ,don't think there was any payment arrangement, who knows.  Now Gale in Jagdeo bad book ,for going to Linden.

Django
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Django posted:
D2 posted:
Django posted:

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Most of the time congress people do not know a damn what is happening on the ground. GID uses their local congress persons artfully. I also doubt any of these three people said the US should stay out of Guyanese affairs. If so what are they doing? The APNU has gamed our system via the legal process to remain in office for a year no less than Ramotar in proroguing parliament to avoid an NCV. Remember these were the same crows insisting he did an illegal act.

GID looking to the September date  was a concession by the PPP to an already onerous delaying tactic by the APNU. They then used the idea of securing a valid voters list to delay the elections further and now we ended up with a list of electors that is bloated twice as much as they themselves argued.  The vile  tactics of the APNU disgusts me and at this point vehemence against them by most Guyanese should be personal. 

Albert Baldeo had photo op with one of the Congressman that went to Guyana ,thanking them.

The whole mess in Guyana politics is because ,some politicians thinks it's easy to grab power .One have to look and see what played out by the Opposition Leader after Granger became ill.

There would have been no bloated voters list ,all parties agreed for H2H ,which wasn't held in 10 yrs ,money was passed in parliament. Then came the NCM , the rest is history.

Baldeo is a shameless, opportunistic disgrace to Guyanese.

HJ
Demerara_Guy posted:
Django posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:

Indeed, they have profound responsibilities to do so as a U.S Senator or a Member of the House of Representative.

However as stated above ...  no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician ...     an important aspect of their roles/functions.

Oath of Office

U.S House of Representatives

“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3

Source -- https://history.house.gov/Inst...ment/Oath-of-Office/

What your explanation about ? what makes you thinks Americans don't know the duties of their Senators and Congressman ?

Are you implying i said  "one is obligated to have allegiance to any politicians"

My statement made absolutely no such reference.

Ok boss, just checking .

Django
Django posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:

Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.

You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . that’s what you need to show. 

It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.

Isn't Meeks that took bribe, his words bear no weight. Look what the PNC did to Gayle?

He got off ,you probably know the story involving the NYC real estate mogul.

Regarding Gale ,don't think there was any payment arrangement, who knows.  Now Gale in Jagdeo bad book ,for going to Linden.

Gayle is friend of Jagdeo. I met Gayle a couple times at a club called "Windies" located  in Scarborough, the owner of that club is a close friend to Jagdeo. Sarwan is co-owner of the club. The other owner is in Guyana campaigning for the PPP.

It was a business arrangement for Gayle to visit Linden, like he said , he has no political bias, Pay for Play.

K
Django posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Django posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:

Indeed, they have profound responsibilities to do so as a U.S Senator or a Member of the House of Representative.

However as stated above ...  no one is obligated to have allegiance to any politician ...     an important aspect of their roles/functions.

Oath of Office

U.S House of Representatives

“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3

Source -- https://history.house.gov/Inst...ment/Oath-of-Office/

What your explanation about ? what makes you thinks Americans don't know the duties of their Senators and Congressman ?

Are you implying i said  "one is obligated to have allegiance to any politicians"

My statement made absolutely no such reference.

Ok boss, just checking .

Take your time while "peeling" the pine. 

FM
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:

Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.

You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . that’s what you need to show. 

It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.

That team does not negate the CCJ’s ruling just because they visited Guyana. Why are you minimizing the CCJ’s ruling when that is Guyana’s highest court of law?

FM

Jagdeo apologizes for “F@#king bad book” comment, says, “I’m human and I do get angry”

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Former President Bharrat Jagdeo today apologized for crass comments he was heard making in a widely circulated leaked recording.

The distinct voice of the People’s Progressive Party (PPP) leader was heard saying “Tell him that you just get in f@#king Jagdeo bad books; he just cussing your sk@#t here.”

Jagdeo, at this Church Street office today, told media operatives: “I want to say to people: I do get angry. Let me say to them again: when I get angry, sometimes I use expletives and I’m sorry that people had to be exposed to that. I’m sorry. I’m human and I do get angry. I’m really sorry that the public had to hear what took place in a private setting.”

Jagdeo said that he was angry after popular Jamaican Cricketer, Chris Gayle, was seen at a Peoples’ National Congress Reform (PNCR) event in Linden, over the weekend. What fueled his outburst, he added, was the belief that Gayle was tricked by government-aligned individuals into attending the event.

“But they knew, it was an APNU event and [Director-General of the Ministry of the Presidency, Joseph] Harmon was in touch with them to get Chris Gayle to walk around with him. They did not tell Chris Gayle about that – the context in which he was going to Linden,” Jagdeo claimed.

The former Head of State said that Gayle being present at the event would have sent a bad message to the famed cricketer’s fans, that he was supporting a political party.

“I was angry because one, the people of Guyana would believe that Chris Gayle endorses APNU and I know that Chris Gayle would not endorse any party…secondly, they would damage Chris Gayle’s fan base and credibility. If they (persons who facilitated Gayle’s presence at the rally) were his friends, they should have never done that because they will damage his credibility among people, and it had already started online.” Jagdeo said.

Questioned whether his rage because Gayle had refused to attend an event organised by the PPP/C’s youth arm, Progressive Youth Organisation (PYO), Jagdeo responded in the negative. He said that the PYO does not have the resources for such activities and whatever “little” it has, is going towards the campaign for the upcoming elections.

Gayle has since issued a statement, distancing himself from Guyanese politics. His statement reads: “I, Christopher Gayle, would like to make it very clear that I in no way, manner or form endorse or support any individual or political party in Guyana. I have noted the many Social Media comments in relation to my recent presence in Linden, and I wish to set the record straight. I was invited to Linden to participate in community outreach. As a sports personality, I relish the opportunity to meet with my fans, and also to reach out to any community under the neutral banner of sports. I am apolitical of any political commitment, and strongly condemn attempts to tarnish my brand and personality.”

FM
kp posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:

Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.

You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . that’s what you need to show. 

It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.

Isn't Meeks that took bribe, his words bear no weight. Look what the PNC did to Gayle?

He got off ,you probably know the story involving the NYC real estate mogul.

Regarding Gale ,don't think there was any payment arrangement, who knows.  Now Gale in Jagdeo bad book ,for going to Linden.

Gayle is friend of Jagdeo. I met Gayle a couple times at a club called "Windies" located  in Scarborough, the owner of that club is a close friend to Jagdeo. Sarwan is co-owner of the club. The other owner is in Guyana campaigning for the PPP.

It was a business arrangement for Gayle to visit Linden, like he said , he has no political bias, Pay for Play.

Wow ,one of my friend in the homeland is a close friend of Sarwan.

Django
Django posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:

Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.

You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . that’s what you need to show. 

It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.

Isn't Meeks that took bribe, his words bear no weight. Look what the PNC did to Gayle?

He got off ,you probably know the story involving the NYC real estate mogul.

Regarding Gale ,don't think there was any payment arrangement, who knows.  Now Gale in Jagdeo bad book ,for going to Linden.

Gayle is friend of Jagdeo. I met Gayle a couple times at a club called "Windies" located  in Scarborough, the owner of that club is a close friend to Jagdeo. Sarwan is co-owner of the club. The other owner is in Guyana campaigning for the PPP.

It was a business arrangement for Gayle to visit Linden, like he said , he has no political bias, Pay for Play.

Wow ,one of my friend in the homeland is a close friend of Sarwan.

Dig a little deep .. you may find one of your cousin in-law samdeen  is a very close friend of Jagdeo and Dr Alli.

FM
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:

Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.

You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . that’s what you need to show. 

It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.

That team does not negate the CCJ’s ruling just because they visited Guyana. Why are you minimizing the CCJ’s ruling when that is Guyana’s highest court of law?

Who arguing about the CCJ. That's the view of the US Congressional team.

You guys funny t@rass ,picture like a picture when the US Congressional team visited Jagdeo. When Rubio office made a statement ,every one flying high. The statement not in favor ,all kind negativity coming forth.

The Afro Guyanese in NYC ,have more connection with US politicians ,than the Indo Guyanese . Bibi can probably attest.

Django
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Dave posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:

Regarding Gale ,don't think there was any payment arrangement, who knows.  Now Gale in Jagdeo bad book ,for going to Linden.

Gayle is friend of Jagdeo. I met Gayle a couple times at a club called "Windies" located  in Scarborough, the owner of that club is a close friend to Jagdeo. Sarwan is co-owner of the club. The other owner is in Guyana campaigning for the PPP.

It was a business arrangement for Gayle to visit Linden, like he said , he has no political bias, Pay for Play.

Wow ,one of my friend in the homeland is a close friend of Sarwan.

Dig a little deep .. you may find one of your cousin in-law samdeen  is a very close friend of Jagdeo and Dr Alli.

We know Irfaan and his parents ,don't think any connection with Jagdeo.

Django
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Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:

Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.

You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . that’s what you need to show. 

It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.

That team does not negate the CCJ’s ruling just because they visited Guyana. Why are you minimizing the CCJ’s ruling when that is Guyana’s highest court of law?

Who arguing about the CCJ. That's the view of the US Congressional team.

You guys funny t@rass ,picture like a picture when the US Congressional team visited Jagdeo. When Rubio office made a statement ,every one flying high. The statement not in favor ,all kind negativity coming forth.

The Afro Guyanese in NYC ,have more connection with politicians in the US ,than the Indo Guyanese . Bibi can probably attest.

You seems to be missing the BIG picture hay … This congressional team is quoting the US Ambassador .. rite.

Answer these two questions.

1. Did the US Ambassador issue any statement to justify these congressional members, who said the following  … "that the US ambassador affirms the conclusion that the Granger Government  did not breached the constitution."

2. Didn't the US Ambassador accused the Granger government of breaching the constitution and Granger and his foreign affairs minister issue strong statement against US.  

FM
Dave posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:

Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.

You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . that’s what you need to show. 

It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.

That team does not negate the CCJ’s ruling just because they visited Guyana. Why are you minimizing the CCJ’s ruling when that is Guyana’s highest court of law?

Who arguing about the CCJ. That's the view of the US Congressional team.

You guys funny t@rass ,picture like a picture when the US Congressional team visited Jagdeo. When Rubio office made a statement ,every one flying high. The statement not in favor ,all kind negativity coming forth.

The Afro Guyanese in NYC ,have more connection with politicians in the US ,than the Indo Guyanese . Bibi can probably attest.

You seems to be missing the BIG picture hay … This congressional team is quoting the US Ambassador .. rite.

Answer these two questions.

1. Did the US Ambassador issue any statement to justify these congressional members, who said the following  … "that the US ambassador affirms the conclusion that the Granger Government  did not breached the constitution."

2. Didn't the US Ambassador accused the Granger government of breaching the constitution and Granger and his foreign affairs minister issue strong statement against US.  

I have already explained the answers to both of the questions in my posts. If you missed it ,will restate.

The US Ambassador don't have to make a public statement.The discussions between the US Congressional team and the US Ambassador is enough. The Congressional team can make a declaration for the US Ambassador change of mind,which was done in the public.

Hopefully my explanations can put the matter to rest.

Django
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 Put matter to rest? Is Dave you talking about banna, even if he has no question he would still make a post of a period and the best part is , you'll still answer 'e rass.

cain
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Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:

Look like i have to pull the video of the Town Hall meeting.

You can provide what ever videos, the US Ambassador is on record condemning Granger government for violating the constitution. However, where is the evidence to support Meeks . that’s what you need to show. 

It's not only Meeks ,it's the Congressional team that came to the conclusion. The US ambassador can withdraw her statement , after having discussions with the US Congressional team that visited Guyana. What ever is on record at the time is gone.

That team does not negate the CCJ’s ruling just because they visited Guyana. Why are you minimizing the CCJ’s ruling when that is Guyana’s highest court of law?

Who arguing about the CCJ. That's the view of the US Congressional team.

 

Exactly. The CCJ ruled that Granger violated the Constitution. These fools pictured below said he didn't. I say the CCJ is correct and these fools are dead wrong. You should write to them as inquire if they understand the Guyana constitution.

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cain posted:

I agree with dem three above.

To agree with dem three is to assert that the judges who sit on the CCJ are incompetent. While at least one of those were involved in malfeasance, is there any evidence of any of the CCJ judges who ruled that Granger violated the constitution ever been involved in any malfeasance? Don't be reckless like Django. He needed that message so desperately he didn't bother to care who the messengere were. 

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