CGID seeks clarification from US ambassador to Guyana

February 12 2020

https://www.caribbeanlifenews....2020-02-0-14-cl.html

On Feb. 9, 2020, United States Members of Congress Gregory Meeks and Yvette Clarke, hosted a town hall meeting in Brooklyn, to brief the Guyanese-American community on their recent fact finding mission to Guyana. The Congressional delegation, which was led by Congressman Albio Sires, visited Guyana on Jan. 22, 2020.

At said meeting, I brought to the attention of the legislators, the following Sept. 19, 2019 joint statement by United States of America Ambassador to Guyana, H.E. Ambassador Sarah-Ann Lynch, United Kingdom High Commissioner to Guyana, H.E. Greg Quinn and the European Union Ambassador to Guyana, H.E. Ambassador Fernando Ponz Cantó.

QUOTE: “The United States, United Kingdom and the European Union thank the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) for devising a proposed elections timeframe for conducting General and Regional Elections. However, we deeply regret that, by surpassing September 18, the Government is currently in breach of the Constitution following its failure to adhere to the decisions of the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) on 18 June and its subsequent orders. This situation comes at great cost to the people of Guyana. The prevailing political uncertainty undermines Guyanese institutions, compromises economic opportunities and delays development across all areas including infrastructure, education, health, and social services. It also hinders our ability to support Guyana’s development needs. We therefore call upon the President to set an elections date immediately in full compliance with Guyana’s constituti­on.” END QUOTE.

The members of Congress unequivocally disagreed that the APNU+AFC coalition government had breached the Constitution of Guyana. They contended that there was no evidence of any constitutional violation. Moreover, the Members of Congress said the United States ambassador to Guyana had affirmed this conclusion.

 
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Django posted:

Not good news for the peeps on the forum,as the saying goes "it is what it is"

The CCJ ruled that Patterson''s selection was extra constitutional. Burke is wise to know t he APNU skirted the rules judicially to remain in office for over a year when the constitution demanded elections in 90 days. You were here elaborating all sorts of theories as to why they were right. That was not your finest hour. 

The reality was they used the letter of the law to skirt the intent of the law. 33 was not a majority in our parliament. Dual citizens were never problematic until they found themselves on the other side of a No confidence vote. Britain called elections and it was done in  a few weeks.

I bet the conservatives could have prolonged their stay with spurious judicial contests. However, they knew well that justice demands reasonable arguments not the crap presented by the corruptocrats in the APNU. Everyone knew why they did as they did. Everyone is 90 percent sure they are gaming the system. That is how much they are trusted to comply with the constitution. Indeed a thing is what it is or not. The APNU are exactly as we always knew them to be.

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ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments.

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.  

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

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Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

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Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments. 

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.   

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

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535
 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Saw this on FB last night. I am sure Django did too and failed to mention it here as a supplemental to his Dickford Burke garbage.

skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments. 

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.   

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Saw this on FB last night. I am sure Django did too and failed to mention it here as a supplemental to his Dickford Burke garbage.

So what is different on FB ,than what the article says ? is Burke lying ?

Hopefully some are aware ,there was a town hall meeting  in the US ,where the Congress person made the declaration to the constituents.

Doubting thomases thinks US Congress persons ,reports to the media ,US Ambassador and politicians in Guyana.

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Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments. 

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.   

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Saw this on FB last night. I am sure Django did too and failed to mention it here as a supplemental to his Dickford Burke garbage.

So what is different on FB ,than what the article says ? just asking .

Hopefully some are aware ,there was a town hall meeting  in the US ,where the Congress person made the declaration to the constituents.

Doubting thomases thinks US Congress persons ,Guyana.reports to the media ,US Ambassador and politicians in Guyana.

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

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skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments. 

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.   

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Saw this on FB last night. I am sure Django did too and failed to mention it here as a supplemental to his Dickford Burke garbage.

So what is different on FB ,than what the article says ? just asking .

Hopefully some are aware ,there was a town hall meeting  in the US ,where the Congress person made the declaration to the constituents.

Doubting thomases thinks US Congress persons ,reports to the media.US Ambassador and politicians in Guyana.

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

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Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments. 

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.   

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Saw this on FB last night. I am sure Django did too and failed to mention it here as a supplemental to his Dickford Burke garbage.

So what is different on FB ,than what the article says ? just asking .

Hopefully some are aware ,there was a town hall meeting  in the US ,where the Congress person made the declaration to the constituents.

Doubting thomases thinks US Congress persons ,reports to the media and politicians in Guyana.

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Yes. They did that so they can get the Guyanese votes in NY. Do you really think they care? Perry Holloway was working with the Gay Boy to deny a recount.

Django posted:

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Most of the time congress people do not know a damn what is happening on the ground. GID uses their local congress persons artfully. I also doubt any of these three people said the US should stay out of Guyanese affairs. If so what are they doing? The APNU has gamed our system via the legal process to remain in office for a year no less than Ramotar in proroguing parliament to avoid an NCV. Remember these were the same crows insisting he did an illegal act.

GID looking to the September date  was a concession by the PPP to an already onerous delaying tactic by the APNU. They then used the idea of securing a valid voters list to delay the elections further and now we ended up with a list of electors that is bloated twice as much as they themselves argued.  The vile  tactics of the APNU disgusts me and at this point vehemence against them by most Guyanese should be personal. 

D2 posted:
Django posted:

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Most of the time congress people do not know a damn what is happening on the ground. GID uses their local congress persons artfully. I also doubt any of these three people said the US should stay out of Guyanese affairs. If so what are they doing? The APNU has gamed our system via the legal process to remain in office for a year no less than Ramotar in proroguing parliament to avoid an NCV. Remember these were the same crows insisting he did an illegal act.

GID looking to the September date  was a concession by the PPP to an already onerous delaying tactic by the APNU. They then used the idea of securing a valid voters list to delay the elections further and now we ended up with a list of electors that is bloated twice as much as they themselves argued.  The vile  tactics of the APNU disgusts me and at this point vehemence against them by most Guyanese should be personal. 

Albert Baldeo had photo op with one of the Congressman that went to Guyana ,thanking them.

The whole mess in Guyana politics is because ,some politicians thinks it's easy to grab power .One have to look and see what played out by the Opposition Leader after Granger became ill.

There would have been no bloated voters list ,all parties agreed for H2H ,which wasn't held in 10 yrs ,money was passed in parliament. Then came the NCM , the rest is history.

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Django posted:
D2 posted:
Django posted:

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Most of the time congress people do not know a damn what is happening on the ground. GID uses their local congress persons artfully. I also doubt any of these three people said the US should stay out of Guyanese affairs. If so what are they doing? The APNU has gamed our system via the legal process to remain in office for a year no less than Ramotar in proroguing parliament to avoid an NCV. Remember these were the same crows insisting he did an illegal act.

GID looking to the September date  was a concession by the PPP to an already onerous delaying tactic by the APNU. They then used the idea of securing a valid voters list to delay the elections further and now we ended up with a list of electors that is bloated twice as much as they themselves argued.  The vile  tactics of the APNU disgusts me and at this point vehemence against them by most Guyanese should be personal. 

Albert Baldeo had photo op with one of the Congressman that went to Guyana ,thanking them.

The whole mess in Guyana politics is because ,some politicians thinks it's easy to grab power .One have to look and see what played out by the Opposition Leader after Granger became ill.

There would have been no bloated voters list ,all parties agreed for H2H ,which wasn't held in 10 yrs ,money was passed in parliament , then came the NCM , the rest is history.

"Money was passed in parliament" what do you know about that and show the evidence?? don't throw shit to stick.

Zara posted:

Comrade Granger and comrade Nagamootoo has all Guyanese interests at heart. He did everything legally and to save Guyana from the corrupted comrades in the PPP.  We hope he lead the Coalition to a big victory march 2 and take Guyana forward for all. 

Quit repeating the same inane crap endlessly. Granger is as charismatic as a bigan and Nagamoottoo is long past his expiration date and has no meaning to anyone but to possibly you and his family. Even Granger can tell you that. If the APNU win it is because the gamed the system. 

kp posted:
Django posted:
D2 posted:
Django posted:

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Most of the time congress people do not know a damn what is happening on the ground. GID uses their local congress persons artfully. I also doubt any of these three people said the US should stay out of Guyanese affairs. If so what are they doing? The APNU has gamed our system via the legal process to remain in office for a year no less than Ramotar in proroguing parliament to avoid an NCV. Remember these were the same crows insisting he did an illegal act.

GID looking to the September date  was a concession by the PPP to an already onerous delaying tactic by the APNU. They then used the idea of securing a valid voters list to delay the elections further and now we ended up with a list of electors that is bloated twice as much as they themselves argued.  The vile  tactics of the APNU disgusts me and at this point vehemence against them by most Guyanese should be personal. 

Albert Baldeo had photo op with one of the Congressman that went to Guyana ,thanking them.

The whole mess in Guyana politics is because ,some politicians thinks it's easy to grab power .One have to look and see what played out by the Opposition Leader after Granger became ill.

There would have been no bloated voters list ,all parties agreed for H2H ,which wasn't held in 10 yrs ,money was passed in parliament. [correction to sentence] Then came the NCM , the rest is history.

"Money was passed in parliament" what do you know about that and show the evidence?? don't throw shit to stick.

Money was passed  (voted ) in (by) parliament  for H2H registration.

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Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments.

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.  

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

0
535
 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Bai, Django trying to sell snake oil. 😀

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments. 

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.   

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Saw this on FB last night. I am sure Django did too and failed to mention it here as a supplemental to his Dickford Burke garbage.

So what is different on FB ,than what the article says ? is Burke lying ?

Hopefully some are aware ,there was a town hall meeting  in the US ,where the Congress person made the declaration to the constituents.

Doubting thomases thinks US Congress persons ,reports to the media ,US Ambassador and politicians in Guyana.

Bai right in America the media saying one thing and the politicians saying the opposite but both saying they are correct. Where did the Ambassador agree with Meeks’ assessment?

Django posted:
D2 posted:
Django posted:

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Most of the time congress people do not know a damn what is happening on the ground. GID uses their local congress persons artfully. I also doubt any of these three people said the US should stay out of Guyanese affairs. If so what are they doing? The APNU has gamed our system via the legal process to remain in office for a year no less than Ramotar in proroguing parliament to avoid an NCV. Remember these were the same crows insisting he did an illegal act.

GID looking to the September date  was a concession by the PPP to an already onerous delaying tactic by the APNU. They then used the idea of securing a valid voters list to delay the elections further and now we ended up with a list of electors that is bloated twice as much as they themselves argued.  The vile  tactics of the APNU disgusts me and at this point vehemence against them by most Guyanese should be personal. 

Albert Baldeo had photo op with one of the Congressman that went to Guyana ,thanking them.

The whole mess in Guyana politics is because ,some politicians thinks it's easy to grab power .One have to look and see what played out by the Opposition Leader after Granger became ill.

There would have been no bloated voters list ,all parties agreed for H2H ,which wasn't held in 10 yrs ,money was passed in parliament. Then came the NCM , the rest is history.

Let me reiterate what is standard practice the world over with building valid  voters list. The old voters list is the workable starting point.  Hoyte insisted on this and delayed elections two year to clean this up. Statistically, this should be the most secure starting point.

 

This APNU wanted to start all over with the counting process with nothing to compare the data with statistically. People do not move often and especially Guyanese. There would be no bloated list if the process of ongoing registration and purging was in place. That is the mandate of the constitution if ever a 90 day turnover to election was ever possible. 

But as usual, anything in Guyana has a rube goldberg solution. Alexander et al did not want to purge the old list of dead and migrated and post it in local jurisdictions where the people can check if they are on it and register. 

What is being missed is we do not have compulsory voting so why all the crap about compulsory house to house registration? Voting is a civic duty and if the people do not see it worthwhile to participate that is their choice. The house to house ruse is and always an APNU ruse to delay elections. There was no necessity for it. 

Sensible people could have delivered valid elections promptly. India did it in 50 days with 900 million electors and hundreds of thousands of polling sites. The brits did it in a few weeks. We are in this process for over a year and still have an almost 50 percent calculable error rate. No APNU person is complaining as they did before. As night follows day they are rigging our elections as we speak.

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ksazma posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:

Those three congressional members are clearly blind.

Bhai Kaz, this is the writer of the article 

Rickford Burke is the president, Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID)

Secondly, NO Main Stream Media in Guyana carry such comments. 

This same Rickford had rejected the US Ambassador statement for saying Granger government breached the constitution. How come he is now quoting the US Ambassador has saying there is no breach, when she NEVER issue such statement - pure hogwash by Rickford and the poster boy.   

CGID rejects statement by Western diplomats

 

Dear Editor
THE Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID) rejects the statement by the United States, United Kingdom and the European Union that Guyana’s APNU+AFC coalition government is in breach of the Guyana constitution, because elections were not held by September 18, 2019. This is an arbitrary date fixed by the political opposition PPP. It has no basis in law.

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...by-western-diplomats

Saw this on FB last night. I am sure Django did too and failed to mention it here as a supplemental to his Dickford Burke garbage.

So what is different on FB ,than what the article says ? is Burke lying ?

Hopefully some are aware ,there was a town hall meeting  in the US ,where the Congress person made the declaration to the constituents.

Doubting thomases thinks US Congress persons ,reports to the media ,US Ambassador and politicians in Guyana.

Bai right in America the media saying one thing and the politicians saying the opposite but both saying they are correct. Where did the Ambassador agree with Meeks’ assessment?

Bhai ,read the article , not only Meeks was in Guyana .In America you can question a Congressman ,send them an email.

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Dave posted:
Zara posted:

Comrade Granger and comrade Nagamootoo has all Guyanese interests at heart. He did everything legally and to save Guyana from the corrupted comrades in the PPP.  We hope he lead the Coalition to a big victory march 2 and take Guyana forward for all. 

If he is PNC, then he can become President when Granger dead, the Neemaak prappa smart. Zara Mamoo screwed the AFC, now will Bugg--r the PNC. Loku story deh!

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

 

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Visiting Guyana means nothing. The Coalition are in Guyana everyday and they still pretending that they did not violate the constitution when everyone else knows that they did.

ksazma posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
 

This is the problem. I am sure they never researched the details and heard bits and pieces and decided to talk shit due to their ignorance.

Who didn't  do research the three US Congress persons ? are you aware they visit Guyana recently.

Visiting Guyana means nothing. The Coalition are in Guyana everyday and they still pretending that they did not violate the constitution when everyone else knows that they did.

Did you follow the US Congress delegation to Guyana recently ? me thinks you busy and missed it.

When PPP time in gov't ,Congressional visit is great ,now that the APNU-AFC in government it's waste visit.

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Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Bai, Django trying to sell snake oil. 😀

What snake oil ? the statement was made by the Congress person.

Well learned judges at the CCJ said Granger violated the constitution. How would Meeks and the others know better than those learned judges? Meeks doesn’t even know what is going on in his NY district how can he know what is going on in Guyana? Getting a few PNC supporters in Brooklyn to give him lil food is enough for him to lie about the violations of the Coalition.