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ronan posted:
Sheik101 posted:

Charrandas made it clear speaking outside parliament that he cannot be bought nor was he interested in joining or being a member of any political party. He further stated that as a successful lawyer he's doing quite well. Yet Carib et al continue to harp on the belief that the man was paid off. To hear him say it, one would think he was at the table when this alleged paid off took place. Charrrandas will be held to his word. If he does anything contrary to what he said, then he would be deemed a liar and his reputation as a public figure destroyed. I don't think he's willing to take such risks. But let's see.

banna, this was not an act of "conscience" . . . an act of conscience would have been his resignation as an AFC MP and everything that naturally flows from such action

this was a calculated, deceitful, "political" act to help the PPP win power

whether any money changed/will change hands is between him and his God . . . there are many ways to skin a cat

none of us will likely ever know for sure, so i have no idea what you mean by "contrary" under these circumstances . . . you just conveniently kicking that can down the road

in fact, his motivation may be even worse if bribe was not a factor . . . under these dutty circumstances

we only know what we know . . . and what we know is UGLY

Guyana is a democratically savvy country, intelligent men and women in high place. And all over the world. They may have a problem with justice because of tribalism, but they know the laws.

Since when a parliamentarian should resign because he differ, especially when wrong doings in the public. It is his right to put an end to it.

Examine you head.

D2 posted:
Vish M posted:

The Sovereign Wealth Fund should be independently established 

it must not be under any government control

If it follows the Santiago protocol which is the baseline for these funds it will be fine. The problem here is that the government ultimately gets to make demands on it and has the authority to spend it if the so desire. You cannot place such a fund solely in civilian hands. They will promptly begin to live the high life. 

Are you saying that this is happening because the government has their hands on the money?

seignet posted:
ronan posted:
Sheik101 posted:

Charrandas made it clear speaking outside parliament that he cannot be bought nor was he interested in joining or being a member of any political party. He further stated that as a successful lawyer he's doing quite well. Yet Carib et al continue to harp on the belief that the man was paid off. To hear him say it, one would think he was at the table when this alleged paid off took place. Charrrandas will be held to his word. If he does anything contrary to what he said, then he would be deemed a liar and his reputation as a public figure destroyed. I don't think he's willing to take such risks. But let's see.

banna, this was not an act of "conscience" . . . an act of conscience would have been his resignation as an AFC MP and everything that naturally flows from such action

this was a calculated, deceitful, "political" act to help the PPP win power

whether any money changed/will change hands is between him and his God . . . there are many ways to skin a cat

none of us will likely ever know for sure, so i have no idea what you mean by "contrary" under these circumstances . . . you just conveniently kicking that can down the road

in fact, his motivation may be even worse if bribe was not a factor . . . under these dutty circumstances

we only know what we know . . . and what we know is UGLY

Guyana is a democratically savvy country, intelligent men and women in high place. And all over the world. They may have a problem with justice because of tribalism, but they know the laws.

Since when a parliamentarian should resign because he differ, especially when wrong doings in the public. It is his right to put an end to it.

Examine you head.

why then did he vote along with the Hammie Greene pension bill?

wouldn't a principled "no" on that vote (or other confessed 'conscience' tugging votes) have triggered a crisis, forcing a debate within the AFC caucus, at minimum, leading us to a better place?

naaaa . . .

he preferred to be a PPP mole, sharpening his knife, biding his time until rat gave the signal . . . for a bundle of unholy reasons

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skeldon_man posted:
D2 posted:
Vish M posted:

The Sovereign Wealth Fund should be independently established 

it must not be under any government control

If it follows the Santiago protocol which is the baseline for these funds it will be fine. The problem here is that the government ultimately gets to make demands on it and has the authority to spend it if the so desire. You cannot place such a fund solely in civilian hands. They will promptly begin to live the high life. 

Are you saying that this is happening because the government has their hands on the money?

I write clear English. I said what I meant. There are no nuanced opinions there, no subtle gloss. 

ksazma posted:

Damn, all the bellyaching. Charandas deceived the Coalition. The Coalition deceived the Guyanese people. Charandas' deceit is for the greater good. New elections in three months. Move on.

The details of the fall of the Ramotar government is still here. Nehru et al could not be more liberal with their Nimakarams and crabdogs. The political ethos is corrupt with elites playing the same game and when it is an indian on black or black on indian dilemma the suspicion is always on ethnic plotting

 

D2 posted:
skeldon_man posted:
D2 posted:
Vish M posted:

The Sovereign Wealth Fund should be independently established 

it must not be under any government control

If it follows the Santiago protocol which is the baseline for these funds it will be fine. The problem here is that the government ultimately gets to make demands on it and has the authority to spend it if the so desire. You cannot place such a fund solely in civilian hands. They will promptly begin to live the high life. 

Are you saying that this is happening because the government has their hands on the money?

I write clear English. I said what I meant. There are no nuanced opinions there, no subtle gloss. 

Sometimes you write too much of nothing. A one-liner will elicit a 1 gig of response.

skeldon_man posted:

Sometimes you write too much of nothing. A one-liner will elicit a 1 gig of response.

One is forced to do t hat because it is not speaking with peers. Most of you are lazy, uninformed, or uneducated and mouth casual nonsense. One has to expand so you at least get a bit of background and to be fair. 

D2 posted:
ksazma posted:
D2 posted:
 

You cannot get inclusive government with our constitution and patterns of voting coerced by it. 

D2, when you mention "patterns of voting coerced by it" are you thinking Indians voting PPP, blacks voting PNC or both?

I am speaking of the status quo. You already know it. 

I was hoping to hear it clearly from you though. I am a bit disappointed.

D2 posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Sometimes you write too much of nothing. A one-liner will elicit a 1 gig of response.

One is forced to do t hat because it is not speaking with peers. Most of you are lazy, uninformed, or uneducated and mouth casual nonsense. One has to expand so you at least get a bit of background and to be fair. 

Like a calling a four-legged animal a sakawinki parrot? Ever wonder why you were beaten to the pulp on other forums that caused you to cut and run? Cutrass caused you to cut and run. Bumps all over your head!!

skeldon_man posted:
D2 posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Sometimes you write too much of nothing. A one-liner will elicit a 1 gig of response.

One is forced to do t hat because it is not speaking with peers. Most of you are lazy, uninformed, or uneducated and mouth casual nonsense. One has to expand so you at least get a bit of background and to be fair. 

Like a calling a four-legged animal a sakawinki parrot? Ever wonder why you were beaten to the pulp on other forums that caused you to cut and run? Cutrass caused you to cut and run. Bumps all over your head!!

Dem bumps black or blue?

D2 posted:
ksazma posted:

Damn, all the bellyaching. Charandas deceived the Coalition. The Coalition deceived the Guyanese people. Charandas' deceit is for the greater good. New elections in three months. Move on.

The details of the fall of the Ramotar government is still here. Nehru et al could not be more liberal with their Nimakarams and crabdogs. The political ethos is corrupt with elites playing the same game and when it is an indian on black or black on indian dilemma the suspicion is always on ethnic plotting

 

I agree. If the bellyaching now is understandable, then that would be too. I would submit that none are.

skeldon_man posted:
D2 posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Sometimes you write too much of nothing. A one-liner will elicit a 1 gig of response.

One is forced to do t hat because it is not speaking with peers. Most of you are lazy, uninformed, or uneducated and mouth casual nonsense. One has to expand so you at least get a bit of background and to be fair. 

Like a calling a four-legged animal a sakawinki parrot? Ever wonder why you were beaten to the pulp on other forums that caused you to cut and run? Cutrass caused you to cut and run. Bumps all over your head!!

You are dreaming. Every site I posted on respected my opinions because they are academic sites where nits like you would not go or political sites on discuss where information exchange is a premium and moderation strict. I was never banned from any Guyanese site we had 4 sites going, Amral's, Waza's, GN&I and another, the name at the moment I do not recall. I was only suspended 2 times here in over 20 years; once for telling annoying Indra by calling her big foot and the other time for calling a girl a "skeezer".  

 Now you are really trolling the bottom with pretending you know what I said about a sakiwinki. That is a tale spread by Drugb here since 2002 and he has as much credibility as you reposting it. Raymond was here and he knows what I said. Plus, I still have the thread if it mattered. It does not.

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GTAngler posted:
Mars posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Here is what I can tell you.  The people who make the most posts on this site are the ones who know the least.

I agree. Look at the top ranked posters on this site. DG, ASJ, Nehru and yugi.

Do "likes" count? I think Admin should also have a "dislike" feature.

depends on the "recipe" amral and ray devise to encourage posting. 

GTAngler posted:
Mars posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Here is what I can tell you.  The people who make the most posts on this site are the ones who know the least.

I agree. Look at the top ranked posters on this site. DG, ASJ, Nehru and yugi.

Do "likes" count? I think Admin should also have a "dislike" feature.

It does,

regarding ranking, positions seems fixed on this site or the algorithm faulty.

D2 posted:
seignet posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Here is what I can tell you.  The people who make the most posts on this site are the ones who know the least.

Yuh talking about D2?

or

Yuh talking about D2.

that lady must be speaking of her self the "points" here are post count. She has been here only three years!

I rarely encounter someone who likes talking about themselves incessantly! 

Rambling Rose!  Heaven knows!

D2 posted:

You are dreaming. Every site I posted on respected my opinions because they are academic sites where nits like you would not go or political sites on discuss where information exchange is a premium and moderation strict. I was never banned from any Guyanese site we had 4 sites going, Amral's, Waza's, GN&I and another, the name at the moment I do not recall. I was only suspended 2 times here in over 20 years; once for telling annoying Indra by calling her big foot and the other time for calling a girl a "skeezer".  

 Now you are really trolling the bottom with pretending you know what I said about a sakiwinki. That is a tale spread by Drugb here since 2002 and he has as much credibility as you reposting it. Raymond was here and he knows what I said. Plus, I still have the thread if it mattered. It does not.

I spread tale? Those with a conscience will attest that you called a sakiwinki a bird. Chief, Ray and many of the old timers will recall your blunder. Some of them even defended you. 

Drugb posted:
D2 posted:

You are dreaming. Every site I posted on respected my opinions because they are academic sites where nits like you would not go or political sites on discuss where information exchange is a premium and moderation strict. I was never banned from any Guyanese site we had 4 sites going, Amral's, Waza's, GN&I and another, the name at the moment I do not recall. I was only suspended 2 times here in over 20 years; once for telling annoying Indra by calling her big foot and the other time for calling a girl a "skeezer".  

 Now you are really trolling the bottom with pretending you know what I said about a sakiwinki. That is a tale spread by Drugb here since 2002 and he has as much credibility as you reposting it. Raymond was here and he knows what I said. Plus, I still have the thread if it mattered. It does not.

I spread tale? Those with a conscience will attest that you called a sakiwinki a bird. Chief, Ray and many of the old timers will recall your blunder. Some of them even defended you. 

My comments was on the thread when the error was made, what's the big deal ? does that make D2 not credible ?

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