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Drugb posted:
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Also of note, Granger must give his reasons for rejecting each member of the list. He did not do soOur jackass Granger will make up a reason, there is no burden on him to justify the reason, he could merely say, "meh nah like dem rass". 

Funny thing this.  The PPP had 23 years to change the constitution and didn't want to do that.  You see Burnham's constitution suited their purposes.

Now they ran and scream " we gun tek back Guyana to de 60s".  Do they think that their supporters will benefit if this were to happen?

FM
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

Why not. Jagdeo would impose an elected dictatorship over blacks if he had his way. Yes taking back Guyana for "his" people who he defined as rural people "we know who they are".

Of course we expected you to support jackass Granger's dictatorship move.  Now somehow you found a way to change the focus to Jagdeo who you claimed called the PPP a coolie people party, that is until I schooled you and exposed your wickedness. It was in fact the PNC who called the PPP a coolie people party during their campaign. 

Of course I would expect you to defend Jagdeo the Indo dictator. Now he is screaming about taking Guyana back to the 60s.  This is Jagdeo's "mo fiah" moment.

Now you are an infant so you don't know, but Guyana will not survive if the 60s comes back again.

Rohee called the PPP a coolie people party and said that Jagdeo was right to describe as such. He said its Indo supported and Indo led.  Then we have Jagdeo screaming that "our base is in the rural areas, you know who they are".  And then screaming "if you don't vote for the PPP GDF and GPF are going to rape and kill you".  Then going into Amerindian areas and ranting that if the PNC wins they will kill all straight haired people.

When asked to prove that he wasn't a racist Jagdeo was unable to furnish proof.  You see you cannot go to an intelligent person like Hughes and show pictures of Jagdeo pushing up against black women and then offer this as proof that he isn't racist.  So he was unable to prove his point when he sued Kissoon because he called him an institutional racist.

Any way you are a person who screams that blacks are a bunch of criminal failures so  can see why you cannot fathom why over 95% of Guyanese blacks think that he is a racist.

Why don't you shut your racist ass. You repeat the same shit over and over and hope that people will believe you. GNI has given you a long rope this forum has allowed  you to spill  racist hate.

K
kp posted:
 

Why don't you shut your racist ass. You repeat the same shit over and over and hope that people will believe you. GNI has given you a long rope this forum has allowed  you to spill  racist hate.

Oh yes discussing that Jagdeo is a racist, and couldn't prove that he wasn't is racist.

Now Jagdeo wants to take Guyana back to the 60s.  If Granger had said that you all would be screaming "black man a kill ahbe".

But continue to be Jagdeo's slave.

FM
ksazma posted:

"Asked if he agreed with Patterson's appointment, Ramjattan said "I certainly would agree with the choice yes because it is the president's choice and he didn't find it acceptable the other names and he found that one acceptable. That's my opinion on the issue".

Can someone please translate what Ramjattan stated here into English. 

Perhaps stating ....

"I must agree, 1,000,000,000 percent, or else ...."

FM
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

Also of note, Granger must give his reasons for rejecting each member of the list. He did not do so

Our jackass Granger will make up a reason, there is no burden on him to justify the reason, he could merely say, "meh nah like dem rass". 

Funny thing this.  The PPP had 23 years to change the constitution and didn't want to do that.  You see Burnham's constitution suited their purposes.

Now they ran and scream " we gun tek back Guyana to de 60s".  Do they think that their supporters will benefit if this were to happen?

Major parts of the constitution require as a minimum sixty six percent of the MPs in parliament.

The current legislature has 33 members for the government and 32 for the opposition.

FM
GTAngler posted:
Zed posted:
GTAngler posted:

Even if they could, Granger followed the Constitution to a T.

Please explain how.

 

Read the Constitution. In particular, Article 161 Sub Paragraph 2 on page 130.

You might want to reread the constitution or get some one to help you understand what you are reading. These documents get complicated with all their paragraphs and proviso, etc. Also, refer to the chief justice recent written ruling or have some lawyer explain that to you. If you do not have it, Django might be able to get it for you. He seems able to find these.

Z
Drugb posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Drugb posted:
 

This gives him the authority to appoint a rigger. 

Provided that if the Minority Leader fails to submit a list as provided, for the President shall appoint a person who holds or has held office as a judge of a court having unlimited jurisdiction in civil and criminal matters in some part of the Commonwealth or a court having jurisdiction in appeals from any such court or who is qualified to be appointed as any such judge.

The president received a list from the Leader of the Opposition, hence the president was bound to select one or reject the entire list.

In that case the leader of the opposition can then submit another list.

In this specific instance, the president rejected the list of nominees and unilaterally appoint a person to the position.

From all legal positions, the president implemented his sole decision on this matter without any guidance from the constitution.

Also, the decision was based on what he-the president personally believes, not what the constitution outlines.

You missed these two words and it invalidates your argument. If Granger found the list to not fit the criteria, no judges or fit and proper person then he can appoint his own judge. 

Provided that if the Minority Leader fails to submit a list as provided

What happened to the decision of the Chief Justice? Of no validity?

Z
Zed posted:
Drugb posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Drugb posted:
 

This gives him the authority to appoint a rigger. 

Provided that if the Minority Leader fails to submit a list as provided, for the President shall appoint a person who holds or has held office as a judge of a court having unlimited jurisdiction in civil and criminal matters in some part of the Commonwealth or a court having jurisdiction in appeals from any such court or who is qualified to be appointed as any such judge.

The president received a list from the Leader of the Opposition, hence the president was bound to select one or reject the entire list.

In that case the leader of the opposition can then submit another list.

In this specific instance, the president rejected the list of nominees and unilaterally appoint a person to the position.

From all legal positions, the president implemented his sole decision on this matter without any guidance from the constitution.

Also, the decision was based on what he-the president personally believes, not what the constitution outlines.

You missed these two words and it invalidates your argument. If Granger found the list to not fit the criteria, no judges or fit and proper person then he can appoint his own judge. 

Provided that if the Minority Leader fails to submit a list as provided

What happened to the decision of the Chief Justice? Of no validity?

It does not address the freedom of the president to arbitrarily find a candidate unacceptable for frivolous reasons. 

FM
Zed posted:
Drugb posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Drugb posted:
 

This gives him the authority to appoint a rigger. 

Provided that if the Minority Leader fails to submit a list as provided, for the President shall appoint a person who holds or has held office as a judge of a court having unlimited jurisdiction in civil and criminal matters in some part of the Commonwealth or a court having jurisdiction in appeals from any such court or who is qualified to be appointed as any such judge.

The president received a list from the Leader of the Opposition, hence the president was bound to select one or reject the entire list.

In that case the leader of the opposition can then submit another list.

In this specific instance, the president rejected the list of nominees and unilaterally appoint a person to the position.

From all legal positions, the president implemented his sole decision on this matter without any guidance from the constitution.

Also, the decision was based on what he-the president personally believes, not what the constitution outlines.

You missed these two words and it invalidates your argument. If Granger found the list to not fit the criteria, no judges or fit and proper person then he can appoint his own judge. 

Provided that if the Minority Leader fails to submit a list as provided

What happened to the decision of the Chief Justice? Of no validity?

"The ruling by Chief Justice (ag), Roxanne George-Wiltshire, allows the President to unilaterally appoint a Chairman of the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM)but Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo believes the judgment only applies to future processes."

CJ ruling allows president to unilaterally appoint GECOM Chair in the future.

https://newsroom.gy/2017/09/27...chair-in-the-future/

Django
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Drugb posted:
Zed posted:
Drugb posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:
Drugb posted:
 

This gives him the authority to appoint a rigger. 

Provided that if the Minority Leader fails to submit a list as provided, for the President shall appoint a person who holds or has held office as a judge of a court having unlimited jurisdiction in civil and criminal matters in some part of the Commonwealth or a court having jurisdiction in appeals from any such court or who is qualified to be appointed as any such judge.

The president received a list from the Leader of the Opposition, hence the president was bound to select one or reject the entire list.

In that case the leader of the opposition can then submit another list.

In this specific instance, the president rejected the list of nominees and unilaterally appoint a person to the position.

From all legal positions, the president implemented his sole decision on this matter without any guidance from the constitution.

Also, the decision was based on what he-the president personally believes, not what the constitution outlines.

You missed these two words and it invalidates your argument. If Granger found the list to not fit the criteria, no judges or fit and proper person then he can appoint his own judge. 

Provided that if the Minority Leader fails to submit a list as provided

What happened to the decision of the Chief Justice? Of no validity?

It does not address the freedom of the president to arbitrarily find a candidate unacceptable for frivolous reasons. 

What has to happen before the president exercise his right to appoint unilaterally? What is the process? That for me is the crucial issue. Many are missing that so as to assign blame. It takes two to discuss. If one of the parties has a particular outcome already decided on, then the other party is from day one at a disadvantage. 

It is amazing that Granger is saying to the Guyanese people that these people on Jagdeo's three lists, or many accomplishments,  are not 'fit and proper'. Does he not realize what Guyanese are thinking about themselves now with Granger's apparent definition of 'fit and proper'.

Z
Gilbakka posted:

This evening the AFC issued a statement fully supporting Granger and blaming BJ for the whole thing. The AFC has just nailed its own coffin.

When you play with dogs, you are bound to get fleas. I am not saying that the PNC are dogs because the AFC would nailed their coffin by joining with the PPP too. The AFC most effective role was to be a disruptor to whoever was in office. They had enough votes to be a strong third force but they wanted to enjoy the fruits of the other two parties who have been in the struggle for more than half a century before their formation. Now they are irrelevant and emasculated.

FM
Gilbakka posted:
Amral posted:

In this video clip I notice that old man Patterson was going to sign the document with the wrong end of the pen. Baap ray baap. Bungling begins. He might beat Basil.

Plus Granger did not get up to shake Patterson's hand. Then it looked like Patterson was going to stay there and Granger told him 'guh sit dahsaide'

FM
Demerara_Guy posted:
ksazma posted:

"Asked if he agreed with Patterson's appointment, Ramjattan said "I certainly would agree with the choice yes because it is the president's choice and he didn't find it acceptable the other names and he found that one acceptable. That's my opinion on the issue".

Can someone please translate what Ramjattan stated here into English. 

Perhaps stating ....

"I must agree, 1,000,000,000 percent, or else ...."

Reading what Rumjaat said, maybe he was drunk when he made that statement. He has to agree with Granger at all times. . He found that name acceptable, Where did that name come from???was it ever discussed???

K
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