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Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by Chief:

Haters are haters!!

SO, what's the reason or reasons for the hate?

It's difficult to explain why human beings hate so much.

The Dutch people who has displayed so much hate towards Muslims and Islam  will realize that they are hating in vain.

You are really wacky to think it is hate that caused this. These people opened their nation to immigrants. They were rewarded with all sorts of obscene fanatical behavior inclusive of but not limited to Van Gough's brutal murder. If those fellows can be so openly abusive then is it not an inevitable response of the society to demand that any immigrant coming in accept their way of life, language etc and not create backward ghettos as exist around the Airport in Paris or in Belgium or even smaller cities like Luton England? Radicalism destroys it for people who are non violent as well.

 

All of those nations have since begun to enact very strict immigration laws on account of what they see happening to the life they are accustomed to. You cannot make these nations like the one you fled.

FM
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Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by seignet:

As all religions in this world, Islam has also turned against itself.

This is a foolish statement. Islam has not changed in 1500 years. Muslims can and have. Maybe you meant that Muslims have turned against Islam.

I get confused about why in some of these countries that some Muslims feel that girls should not be educated...this is so backward...these are the fools we see on TV...thus plenty people think the religion is backward and lives in the past

FM
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by seignet:

As all religions in this world, Islam has also turned against itself.

This is a foolish statement. Islam has not changed in 1500 years. Muslims can and have. Maybe you meant that Muslims have turned against Islam.

I get confused about why in some of these countries that some Muslims feel that girls should not be educated...this is so backward...these are the fools we see on TV...thus plenty people think the religion is backward and lives in the past

That is why I was correcting sagga bai about the difference between Islam and Muslim. According to Islam, Muslims should "seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave". Additionally according to Islam, if a parent can only afford to educate one of their two children, they should "educate the girl because she will be the mother of the community"

 

Now according to some Muslims, don't educate the girl. Now this is against Islam and unadvisable. 

FM
Originally Posted by raymond:

Kaz

 

Non Muslims don't see the difference you speak of...they just feel is one and the same

Just read the comments on CNN or any other news outlet once something negative happens...

It is not their responsibility to know the difference. It is our responsibility to know it so we can conduct our lives accordingly. Granted that negative actions/behaviors will get more and faster outlets but in the final analysis there is nothing one can do about that. We just need to live good and respect others. As the prophet said "A Muslim is he in whom his neighbors are safe"

FM
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by Chief:

Haters are haters!!

SO, what's the reason or reasons for the hate?

It's difficult to explain why human beings hate so much.

The Dutch people who has displayed so much hate towards Muslims and Islam  will realize that they are hating in vain.

What you mean, you'll still raise the sickle moon over Den Haag?

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by raymond:

Kaz

 

Non Muslims don't see the difference you speak of...they just feel is one and the same

Just read the comments on CNN or any other news outlet once something negative happens...

It is not their responsibility to know the difference. It is our responsibility to know it so we can conduct our lives accordingly. Granted that negative actions/behaviors will get more and faster outlets but in the final analysis there is nothing one can do about that. We just need to live good and respect others. As the prophet said "A Muslim is he in whom his neighbors are safe"

I disagree...it is our responsibility to see that the religion does not get hijacked by wackos and backwards people...us knowing the difference and sitting on our asses just makes it worst

FM
Originally Posted by raymond:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by raymond:

Kaz

 

Non Muslims don't see the difference you speak of...they just feel is one and the same

Just read the comments on CNN or any other news outlet once something negative happens...

It is not their responsibility to know the difference. It is our responsibility to know it so we can conduct our lives accordingly. Granted that negative actions/behaviors will get more and faster outlets but in the final analysis there is nothing one can do about that. We just need to live good and respect others. As the prophet said "A Muslim is he in whom his neighbors are safe"

I disagree...it is our responsibility to see that the religion does not get hijacked by wackos and backwards people...us knowing the difference and sitting on our asses just makes it worst

That would be ideal but I don't think it is practical. Between 5-6% of the world's Muslims are extremists. I am guessing that most of the rest are good Muslims quietly practicing their faith. They will never get the coverage that these extremists get and nothing one do will change that formula. And if you launch a campaign to change that narrative, you will be deemed as forcing it down others' throats. There is always the cry that good Muslims don't speak out enough but when they do, they are accused of making excuses ..... not for the bad Muslims but for Islam...... suggesting that the problem is Islam and these Muslims are trying to sugar coat it. So while your idea sounds good it is more idealistic than practical.

FM

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