A $6 million offer by a Guyanese racist

I will be looking at the released MI5 files on the PPP in the fifties and sixties. It is impossible in any country, except Guyana, for such documents to not be analyzed for the education of the forthcoming generations. There are people in this country that would gladly let priceless, historical information die, and the country becomes intellectually poorer.
When national figures die, those who knew them offer wonderfully inspired eulogies, but the other side of the coin is never told. That of course is understandable. Eusi Kwayana and Moses Bhagwan did just that – offered glowing tributes to Miles Fitzpatrick. They were right to do so, because they highlighted the positives they knew about the man. It is for others to analyze the negatives they saw in Fitzpatrick.
This is where my pen comes in. I have an undying loyalty to Guyana, the land that gave me birth and the land I chose to spend my entire life in. Long after I am gone, those who make Guyana their home should be entitled to read about who was who in their country eighty years ago, and who and who shaped or developed or destroyed their country eighty years ago. In other words, history must be recorded. It is an undying passion in places like Europe and the US. It must be so for Guyana.
Unfortunately, we will miss great opportunities to inform the next generation about many things it needs to know. It has to be a display of the sickest mind steeped in racist miasma when one reads what one of the Shah sisters divulged recently. For over 40 years, the Shah sisters staged a dance show named Nrityageet, originally a performance of East Indian dances. As the show grew, it took on a more diverse flavour.
There were dance pieces that were not exclusively Indian in origin and non-Indians specializing in Indian classical dance performed. Two notable inclusions were Andre Subryan and Philip McClintock, the latter benefitting from a scholarship from the Indian government. The National Dance Company, whose performers were not East Indians, was a regular feature.Because of the inclusion of non-Indian performers, Ms. Sita Shah wrote that she was offered six million dollars if she excluded non-Indians from performing in her show. Lost forever is the name of that person or company that made the repulsive offer. One doubts Ms. Shah will want to identify him or her. Obviously, there is the libel threat.
Stop for a moment and think of what this person is made of. In a country where ethnic tensions and ethnic suspicions have destroyed this nation, and where there have been phenomenal attempts to heal this country, someone was willing to pay six million dollars just to keep a non-Indian from being part of a performance. How could someone have such a mind? Cultures must always reach out to each other, learn from each other, and help build tolerance. There could only have been one result if Nrityageet had incorporated diverse talent in its midst – diversity would have brought a better appreciation of the difference that separates people in Guyana.
What Ms. Shah wrote about that offer is so shocking that it numbs the mind to think that we have such types in the country. That person is a truly sick human that should not be part of a multi-racial country. I would like to ask Ms. Shah if she ever saw that person again, and if she ever asked for an apology and was the apology given.
There were more shocking revelations from Ms. Shah. In declaring that 2019 will see the last rites for Nrityageet that endured for forty years, she said the show over the years was decimated by boycotts from the Indian communities because they wanted it to be an all-Indian affair. She intoned that the mandirs didn’t offer support for that reason too.
What a tragic country we live in. When I read what Ms. Shah revealed and what Lincoln Lewis wrote about foreigners coming here to take our “economic greatness” (a subject I will return to in a forthcoming column), one must despair for the future. When I read these things, I think of the young ones who will not get a visa and will have to spend the rest of their lives here.
I wish Ms. Shah could reveal the identity to someone who can put it in context that will avoid libel. But such poisonous minds have no right to exist in this country. To think such minds that brought Trump to power dwell right among us here. I doubt God cares about Guy

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There is not a race of people or a nation that is void of racism. It is the persons freedom of expression. Trump has that right and to deny him his rights as the President of USA is to be on the side of a Dictatorship. What happens to those who shares his views?

Guyana is a racists country, and not today. For those of us who enjoyed growing up in a multi-ethnic community, it is a treasure. And I have encountered black racism, but that is in no way discounted my pleasure of growing and sharing with other black brothers.

Freddie always trying to paint Indians as hate-full ppl. He wants a tolerant society but he is going about it the wrong way. 

Freddie should give us a documentation of the Jubilee Celebrations-there were no Indians.

 

This is a silly article, Is Freddie "Short Sighted" just recent a government minister, Volda Lawrence, stated jobs must be given to PNC card holders, ie: our people, really Blacks. This happened 2019, why not Milk this incidence.

 Freddie cup is half full of lies, the other half untruths.

Django posted:

This  RACIST should be exposed, Ms.Shaw should reveal his identity.

Not important. Guyana has always had racial issues. Freddie somehow feels the need to suck up to the PNC and he has no qualms burning the entire Indian race in Guyana to do so. His articles have become very predictable and points to a person suffering from low self esteem.

McClintock was a good dancer of Indian classics.  My parents would go to see him.  I don’t agree with excluding based on race.  Indian dancing and the Hindu religion are two different matters.  

Today blacks wear Indian outfits to Indian ceremonies with pride.   Just ask Bibi how the Afro friends of my niece was decked in saris and kurtas out at her wedding in Florida.  

Indians need to stop being so racist.  

Django posted:

A $6 million offer by a Guyanese racist



 There were dance pieces that were not exclusively Indian in origin and non-Indians specializing in Indian classical dance performed. Two notable inclusions were Andre Subryan and Philip McClintock, the latter benefitting from a scholarship from the Indian government.

In fact in the 70s he was regarded as one of the best male dancers of kathak.  And this at a time when few non Indians had the vaguest interest in any aspect of Indo culture, aside from eating dhal puri and curried dishes.

seignet posted:

 

Freddie should give us a documentation of the Jubilee Celebrations-there were no Indians.

 

He need do no such thing.  I personally know people who were involved in organizing the Jubilee celebrations and I know how much effort they made to do outreach to Indos.  Rickford Burke in fact was one of those.

They screamed "blackman in power and we nah gun celebrate".  Ditto in Guyana.

So if Indos were under represented in the Jubilee then that is because they wanted to be and in fact I recall the comments made by blacks citing this as evidence of Indo racism and clannishness. 

And on GNI the Indo Nazis were screaming about "wine down" and calling it the height of vulgarity, even though their favorite weekend activity is to get drunk in some RH rum shop and then try to big themselves up by picking a fight.

Baseman posted:

McClintock was a good dancer of Indian classics.  My parents would go to see him.  I don’t agree with excluding based on race.  Indian dancing and the Hindu religion are two different matters.  

Today blacks wear Indian outfits to Indian ceremonies with pride.   Just ask Bibi how the Afro friends of my niece was decked in saris and kurtas out at her wedding in Florida.  

Indians need to stop being so racist.  

Funny they scream exclusion and then when others try to be inclusive by celebrating the full range of Guyana's cultural heritage the same ones scream " we nah want no blackman in dis!"

In Trinidad a Indo racist woman called a TV station which had mainly Indo programming when they had some chutney show that had blacks involved.  She called in screaming "she don't want no dutty Rowley PNM ni99ers" on the show.  I guess the customer service reps voice was a little high pitched so she didn't know that he was black. 

Next thing her personal info was leaked and then she got threats.  She then called the same "dutty Rowley PNM" begging for help.

seignet posted:

There is not a race of people or a nation that is void of racism. It is the persons freedom of expression. Trump has that right and to deny him his rights as the President of USA is to be on the side of a Dictatorship. What happens to those who shares his views?

Are you insane? Racism is an atrocity committed against someone for no valid reason. It is not a right. It is not freedom of expression for the simple reason that racism in itself denies others their freedom of expression. Prejudice has no boundary once started. Did Hitler have a right to kill Jews or was he just using his freedom of expression that Jews should be murdered? Did white people have a right to enslave blacks? Did white people have a right to commit countless atrocities in India and other colonies? How can any intelligent human being post such crap?

seignet posted:

There is not a race of people or a nation that is void of racism. It is the persons freedom of expression. Trump has that right and to deny him his rights as the President of USA is to be on the side of a Dictatorship. What happens to those who shares his views?

They are all imbeciles and should be treated as such.

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Freddie should give us a documentation of the Jubilee Celebrations-there were no Indians.

Yeh right,as if they wanted to be there. I remember well, it is a Guyanese thing but most of the Indo KKK clan posted crap against it. I guess they do not view themselves as Guyanese unless it has something specifically of Indian origin.

 

 

cain posted:

 

Yeh right,as if they wanted to be there. I remember well, it is a Guyanese thing but most of the Indo KKK clan posted crap against it. I guess they do not view themselves as Guyanese unless it has something specifically of Indian origin.

 

 

they, and sadly many other Indos who aren't necessarily bigots, see themselves as Indians born in Guyana, so see no reason to support any Guyanese endeavor unless it is under Indian leadership.  Some even describe themselves as being on a sojourn from India, with a mere stop off in Guyana enroute to North America.

If the PPP was in power, even if they bad talked Jagdeo Afro Guyanese would have seen it as their duty as a Guyanese and would have demanded inclusion if there was any attempt to exclude.  They see themselves as Guyanese who happen to be black and are almost always ambivalent about Africa.

Freddie likes Shit, he likes to stir shit that is why people throw shit on him. He put out some Shit article without evidence and proof just to see witch shit hole will run with it, obviously they gave it a long running. 

caribny posted:

they, and sadly many other Indos who aren't necessarily bigots, see themselves as Indians born in Guyana, so see no reason to support any Guyanese endeavor unless it is under Indian leadership.  Some even describe themselves as being on a sojourn from India, with a mere stop off in Guyana enroute to North America.

If the PPP was in power, even if they bad talked Jagdeo Afro Guyanese would have seen it as their duty as a Guyanese and would have demanded inclusion if there was any attempt to exclude.  They see themselves as Guyanese who happen to be black and are almost always ambivalent about Africa.

You are the worse bigot here.  IndoG affinity for Indian culture has a lot to do with bollywood movies and religious traditions which sustained the connection well past a century after indentureship.  Meanwhile you seem to have forgotten Forbes and the dashiki days. Maybe you too have a dashiki from pnc days in your wardrobe hidden away. I don't blame Afros for not holding on to their African root, they converted to Christianity en masse, severing any religious connection to the motherland. In addition, who would want affinity to a continent where you see starving people daily on TV begging for money, dictators and civil wars. 

People like Philip Mcclintock and the Mighty Enchanter are our brothers. When we leave we take our brothers and sisters with us. Our Independent sovereign country must never be about race but about protecting our culture on the South American continent for generations to come.

caribny posted:
seignet posted:

 

Freddie should give us a documentation of the Jubilee Celebrations-there were no Indians.

 

He need do no such thing.  I personally know people who were involved in organizing the Jubilee celebrations and I know how much effort they made to do outreach to Indos.  Rickford Burke in fact was one of those.

They screamed "blackman in power and we nah gun celebrate".  Ditto in Guyana.

So if Indos were under represented in the Jubilee then that is because they wanted to be and in fact I recall the comments made by blacks citing this as evidence of Indo racism and clannishness. 

And on GNI the Indo Nazis were screaming about "wine down" and calling it the height of vulgarity, even though their favorite weekend activity is to get drunk in some RH rum shop and then try to big themselves up by picking a fight.

Carib you don't wine down.  You use Mash as a perfect place to wine up on those black girls.  Their husbands should buss your behind with lash.

Drugb posted:
 

You are the worse bigot here.  IndoG affinity for Indian culture has a lot to do with bollywood movies and religious traditions which sustained the connection well past a century after indentureship.  Meanwhile you seem to have forgotten Forbes and the dashiki days. Maybe you too have a dashiki from pnc days in your wardrobe hidden away. I don't blame Afros for not holding on to their African root, they converted to Christianity en masse, severing any religious connection to the motherland. In addition, who would want affinity to a continent where you see starving people daily on TV begging for money, dictators and civil wars. 

Afro Caribbean people have rich cultural traditions that we are proud of and that the world recognizes.  So we dont have to go running behind Africans begging for validation like some of you do towards Indians. 

The people say that they find you all strange, and that you all act too much like black people for them.  Learn to love yourselves and accept that in 2019 you are now as much a product of the Caribbean as we are.

And as to Christianity.  You better check to see how many Christian Indians are running around these days.  More and more are becoming Christians and it isnt even evident how many Hindus are actively involved in their religion outside of holidays, weddings and funerals.  I see too many of you all eating beef.

Prashad posted:

 

Carib you don't wine down.  You use Mash as a perfect place to wine up on those black girls.  Their husbands should buss your behind with lash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJbnnmxwioU

And the Guyanese one beat the Trini win. At least in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-jU5l33ljg

This from Indo Trinidad.  Take a look at that fine girl with the blue shirt and red shorts.

Show this to some one from India.  You all need to come join us and celebrate that you are now a CARIBBEAN people!

Prashad posted:

People like Philip Mcclintock and the Mighty Enchanter are our brothers. 

And this is what Guyana, Trinidad and maybe Suriname are all about.

But you want to run off to India. Sad!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-jU5l33ljg

As much as many of you all seek India for your validation that horse left the barn long ago.  Just accept that you all are creatures of the Caribbean and stop stressing yourselves out. 

caribny posted:
kp posted:

This is RACISM from the top, you might think this photo was taken in Africa.

Yes and your PPP gatherings look like they are in India.  How many blacks were being considered for the presidential position?

Same amount of non blacks considered for the PNC Presidential position.

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