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August 29, 2021

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Vice President Jagdeo recently added some clarity regarding the long-term vision of the PPP/C administration. This clarification came at the Offshore Technology Conference in Houston, Texas. The first vision pertains to the immediate maximising of oil revenues because of the uncertain prospects for fossil fuel in the coming three decades. The second vision has to do with renewable energy forming part of the national energy mix.

The Low Carbon Development Strategy (LCDS) was invoked in order to justify the second long-term vision. The long vision implies a fairly large hydropower station, most likely Amaila, is the objective. More granular renewable energy sources do not seem to be in the works. By granular, I mean providing incentives for families and businesses to convert rooftops into solar panels for own use and selling the surplus. However, the latter approach need not be inconsistent with a grander plan such as Amaila. They all require legislation and the upgrading of the grid system.

Mr. Jagdeo provides a few rationales in support of his argument for maximising oil revenues now. First, he notes that since Guyana’s offshore is a relatively low-cost alternative, then this country’s oil ought to take some existing market share from higher cost oil-producing regions. Second, the Vice President argues that if Guyana does not commit deeply right now, others will since there is a market of US$4 trillion.

It is interesting to observe the inherent strategic uncertainty driving the Vice President’s decision to go all in now. Here is the strategic uncertainty: since Guyana (and the Vice President) cannot be sure others will decarbonise – meaning cooperate – for a noble and much larger vision to save the planet, then we might as well pump as much as we can now. I find this to be very interesting as it rings a parallel with a metaphor I have used over the years to analyse Guyana’s voting contest and its associated economic development outcome – hence, the internal political strife in the title of this column.

If the Vice President and Guyana play nice and refuse to jump all in immediately (cooperate for the grand vision) while other countries do not (they cheat or defect), then Guyana loses significant amounts of revenue that Guyanese can only hope their leaders will spend wisely and equitably. On the other hand, the defectors (other oil producers) gain the revenues as Guyana loses.

There is of course a theoretical outcome in which the world is better off – where Guyana and all other oil-producing countries play nice and cooperate to decarbonise starting today. However, this depends on a high degree of trust among nations. Guyana has to trust that others will do the right thing and also decarbonise. New upcoming oil producers like the Brazilian offshore also have to trust that Guyana will not jump all in.

Such trust requires a grand global governance, which most scholars in International Political Economy will argue is unattainable. Several countries such as the United States, Germany, the United Kingdom, Canada, and other democracies, have leaders who are beholden to their home constituencies at election time. It is very hard to make deep commitments in the spirit of multilateral governance (think Brexit), particularly in global cooperation for curbing the carbon economy.

Oil producers with authoritarian governments do not fare any better, and in some ways do worse. China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, among others, are still committed to carbon-based economies for a much larger time period in spite of their impressive talks at the international level.

Therefore, the outcome or the equilibrium is all oil producers, including Guyana, become self-serving and pump as much oil now – the worse possible outcome for the planet. The bad outcome is driven by the strategic uncertainty. Some readers following my take on Guyana’s internal political economy might have noticed that I am applying a well-known metaphor in this column: the prisoners’ dilemma. This is a very useful analytical tool that is not only relevant for analysing international relations, but also internal politics.

Mr. Jagdeo may have a point, therefore, with respect to gaining enough funds. One can only hope that the funds are going to be used for adaptation since global warming and climate change are now cast in stone and there will be serious adverse consequences in coming decades. Guyana’s coastal plain will demand significant amounts of money for adaptation. In spite of reference to the LCDS, there does not appear to be much commitment either when it comes to mitigation: Minister Juan Edghill makes it clear that mangroves can be replaced with concrete walls.

Guyana’s adaptation to climate change would require national consensus and cooperation across the political divide, as well as the “maximised” revenues. In the case of Guyana, the political divide is strongly aligned to the ethnic divide. The Vice President will no doubt not be pleased with an application of the prisoners’ dilemma (well, the repeated version of the PD) towards understanding the economic underpinnings of the two ethnic security dilemmas in Guyana.

Nevertheless, it is worth repeating it so that the reader can observe the parallel with the revenue “maximisation” example above. It goes something like this: on the day of voting the ethnic base (all good folks) of the PNCR cannot be sure the ethnic base of the PPP/C will cooperate by voting for independent parties (split their votes). On the other hand, the ethnic base of the PPP/C (also good folks) cannot be certain that the ethnic base of the PNCR will cooperate by voting for independent parties (split their votes). What if the PNCR’s base split their votes and the PPP/C’s does not? Then the latter gets most of the contracts, prestige, scholarships and the pivotal civil service jobs. And what happens if the PPP/C’s base split their votes and the PNCR’s base does not? Then the supporters of the PPP/C lose most of the prestige and other goodies mentioned previously. The trust is just not there; as a result, the safe strategy is for both ethnic bases to vote solidly for their ethnic leaders (to defect). In doing so, one votes to keep the other side out.

Of course, leaders and supporters of the PPP/C have been saying that their party gets crossover votes since the last population census has the East Indian population at 39%. I am not convinced about the last census that was released two years late in a fiasco. Surveys such as LAPOP and this newspaper’s recent report on the PNCR’s Brooklyn protest, as well as the stark editorial “The tale of two diasporas” (SN. 21/08/21) tell a different story.

Over the years, one scholar at the University of Guyana, Dr. Thomas Singh, has argued in favour of building trust as a means of transcending from the bad outcome in which both sides are worse off to a more cooperative one in which everyone is better off. It is not going to be an easy task. However, the cast-in-stone climate change ought to be a wake-up call for enlightened adaptation and mitigation. A starting point may be as follows:

The PNCR and AFC must accept the 2020 election result and recognise the PPP/C as the legitimate government.

(ii) The PPP/C must recognise that it does not have monopoly on competence and reach across the divide for the PNCR and AFC to be involved in critical decision making in the oil industry, Natural Resource Fund and other institutions that are in everyone’s interest.

(iii) Commence cleaning up and upgrading the voters’ list. My personal feeling is a credible voters’ list will also be dependent on a new and credible population census.

In closing, maximum production means maximum revenues for the oil companies. Guyana’s share for the next decade, at least, will likely be capped at an effective rate of 14.5% per barrel (I think it’s 13.5%) given the cost recovery of 75%. One way of maximising upfront revenues for Guyana is to get the cost recovery cap down to 50%. Just that single change to the contract will increase Guyana’s take on each barrel to 27%.

Comments can be sent to: tkhemraj@ncf.edu

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The PNCR and AFC must accept the 2020 election result and recognise the PPP/C as the legitimate government.



Why should they accept ? the election is tainted with irregularities.The Caricom Observers Report of the recount mentioned there are no supporting documents for 29 Ballot Boxes ,their observation of ballot boxes was just over 400 across all Regions.

Of course, leaders and supporters of the PPP/C have been saying that their party gets crossover votes since the last population census has the East Indian population at 39%. I am not convinced about the last census that was released two years late in a fiasco. Surveys such as LAPOP and this newspaper’s recent report on the PNCR’s Brooklyn protest, as well as the stark editorial “The tale of two diasporas” (SN. 21/08/21) tell a different story.

Highly questionable ,detailed voting data and demographics proved otherwise .

LAPOP Serveys are old there are one from 2006 and another from 2009. Some of the information on age group was withheld by the government.

Also there are heavy migration from 2002 to 2011 US Green Card holders are 61,012 and from 2012 to 2019 = 41,192. Factoring other countries the numbers would increase.

Django
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Prisoners' dilemma or pure self interest , it just wouldn't matter because market forces and political pressure will make the fossil fuels business untenable.  The future is in renewables and for good reason--just look at the pictures from New Orleans in today's news. Jagdeo championing the environment is like Ruth's Chris promoting vegetarianism. 

T
@Django posted:

The PNCR and AFC must accept the 2020 election result and recognise the PPP/C as the legitimate government.

Why should they accept ? the election is tainted with irregularities.The Caricom Observers Report of the recount mentioned there are no supporting documents for 29 Ballot Boxes ,their observation of ballot boxes was just over 400 across all Regions.

Of course, leaders and supporters of the PPP/C have been saying that their party gets crossover votes since the last population census has the East Indian population at 39%. I am not convinced about the last census that was released two years late in a fiasco. Surveys such as LAPOP and this newspaper’s recent report on the PNCR’s Brooklyn protest, as well as the stark editorial “The tale of two diasporas” (SN. 21/08/21) tell a different story.

Highly questionable ,detailed voting data and demographics proved otherwise .

LAPOP Serveys are old there are one from 2006 and another from 2009. Some of the information on age group was withheld by the government.

Also there are heavy migration from 2002 to 2011 US Green Card holders are 61,012 and from 2012 to 2019 = 41,192. Factoring other countries the numbers would increase.

Bora and baji price fall.

FM
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@Django posted:

The PNCR and AFC must accept the 2020 election result and recognise the PPP/C as the legitimate government.

Why should they accept ? the election is tainted with irregularities.The Caricom Observers Report of the recount mentioned there are no supporting documents for 29 Ballot Boxes ,their observation of ballot boxes was just over 400 across all Regions.

Dj your party got caught with its pants down trying to rig the election.

BC
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@Django posted:

The PNCR and AFC must accept the 2020 election result and recognise the PPP/C as the legitimate government.

Why should they accept ? the election is tainted with irregularities.The Caricom Observers Report of the recount mentioned there are no supporting documents for 29 Ballot Boxes ,their observation of ballot boxes was just over 400 across all Regions.

Of course, leaders and supporters of the PPP/C have been saying that their party gets crossover votes since the last population census has the East Indian population at 39%. I am not convinced about the last census that was released two years late in a fiasco. Surveys such as LAPOP and this newspaper’s recent report on the PNCR’s Brooklyn protest, as well as the stark editorial “The tale of two diasporas” (SN. 21/08/21) tell a different story.

Highly questionable ,detailed voting data and demographics proved otherwise .

LAPOP Serveys are old there are one from 2006 and another from 2009. Some of the information on age group was withheld by the government.

Also there are heavy migration from 2002 to 2011 US Green Card holders are 61,012 and from 2012 to 2019 = 41,192. Factoring other countries the numbers would increase.

Riggers have no shame!

......Those who believed that they could turn back history and restore electoral rigging are living in some bubble which is not of the present era. The age of electoral rigging has passed and those who do not know that are living in a dream world of their own making.
But the shame has not been totally eradicated with the passage of time and so there is attempt to try to blame members of the diplomatic community for the principled stance which was taken in response to the attempted rigging.
The Ambassador of the United States is being targeted and there have been calls from the disgraced losers for her to be removed. But like the shenanigans during the Recount, these calls will also be seen as another fishing expedition to see who can be made scapegoat to cover over the shame of the riggers.....

sachin_05
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@sachin_05 posted:

Riggers have no shame!

......Those who believed that they could turn back history and restore electoral rigging are living in some bubble which is not of the present era. The age of electoral rigging has passed and those who do not know that are living in a dream world of their own making.
But the shame has not been totally eradicated with the passage of time and so there is attempt to try to blame members of the diplomatic community for the principled stance which was taken in response to the attempted rigging.
The Ambassador of the United States is being targeted and there have been calls from the disgraced losers for her to be removed. But like the shenanigans during the Recount, these calls will also be seen as another fishing expedition to see who can be made scapegoat to cover over the shame of the riggers.....

This have nothing to do with my response ,to the quote from TK article. Poor attempt to use FK article.

Django
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@Django posted:

The PNCR and AFC must accept the 2020 election result and recognise the PPP/C as the legitimate government.

Why should they accept ? the election is tainted with irregularities.The Caricom Observers Report of the recount mentioned there are no supporting documents for 29 Ballot Boxes ,their observation of ballot boxes was just over 400 across all Regions.

@Bigan Choka posted:

Dj your party got caught with its pants down trying to rig the election.

My party ?. There should be level playing field in elections .It is wrong for any political parties to rig elections ,the PPP are no saint ,under Ratman the party is equally guilty of rigging elections.

Django
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@Django posted:

This have nothing to do with my response ,to the quote from TK article. Poor attempt to use FK article.

The PNCR and AFC must accept the 2020 election result and recognise the PPP/C as the legitimate government.



Why should they accept ? the election is tainted with irregularities.The Caricom Observers Report of the recount mentioned there are no supporting documents for 29 Ballot Boxes ,their observation of ballot boxes was just over 400 across all Regions.

Of course, leaders and supporters of the PPP/C have been saying that their party gets crossover votes since the last population census has the East Indian population at 39%. I am not convinced about the last census that was released two years late in a fiasco. Surveys such as LAPOP and this newspaper’s recent report on the PNCR’s Brooklyn protest, as well as the stark editorial “The tale of two diasporas” (SN. 21/08/21) tell a different story.

Highly questionable ,detailed voting data and demographics proved otherwise .

LAPOP Serveys are old there are one from 2006 and another from 2009. Some of the information on age group was withheld by the government.

Also there are heavy migration from 2002 to 2011 US Green Card holders are 61,012 and from 2012 to 2019 = 41,192. Factoring other countries the numbers would increase.

My response was to your allegations of rigging highlighted above. Until you provide the proof otherwise [which you claim to have] your PNC will remain the shameless riggers hahahahaha [maniacal laughter]

sachin_05
@sachin_05 posted:

The PNCR and AFC must accept the 2020 election result and recognise the PPP/C as the legitimate government.

Why should they accept ? the election is tainted with irregularities.The Caricom Observers Report of the recount mentioned there are no supporting documents for 29 Ballot Boxes ,their observation of ballot boxes was just over 400 across all Regions.

Of course, leaders and supporters of the PPP/C have been saying that their party gets crossover votes since the last population census has the East Indian population at 39%. I am not convinced about the last census that was released two years late in a fiasco. Surveys such as LAPOP and this newspaper’s recent report on the PNCR’s Brooklyn protest, as well as the stark editorial “The tale of two diasporas” (SN. 21/08/21) tell a different story.

Highly questionable ,detailed voting data and demographics proved otherwise .

LAPOP Serveys are old there are one from 2006 and another from 2009. Some of the information on age group was withheld by the government.

Also there are heavy migration from 2002 to 2011 US Green Card holders are 61,012 and from 2012 to 2019 = 41,192. Factoring other countries the numbers would increase.

My response was to your allegations of rigging highlighted above. Until you provide the proof otherwise [which you claim to have] your PNC will remain the shameless riggers hahahahaha [maniacal laughter]

You have chosen to use Freddie article ,ponder on this information from 1993 to 2015 ,US Green Card processed for Guyanese is 152 ,709 ,2016 to 2019 ,19,002 factoring other countries the number increases.

https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook

I have mentioned before ,my analysis will not be provided on the forum ,there are reasons for not doing so ,it's shared with with few folks .

Django
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@Django posted:

You have chosen to use Freddie article ,ponder on this information from 1993 to 2015 ,US Green Card processed for Guyanese is 152 ,709 ,2016 to 2019 ,19,002 factoring other countries the number increases.

https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook

What does the numbers you throwing around has to do with the price of eggs in a China market? Let me breakdown this a little for you-first not all migrants are supporters of the same party, half of families migrating to the US can be kids, not all voting age, I know at least five family members who has green cards but doesn’t doesn't live in America and thats just who I personally knows. Besides, last time I check its not even unlawful for Guyanese citizens green card holder to return and vote. The numbers you tossing in the air don’t mean squat, you better off sticking to the jumbie vote theory….hahahahaha [maniacal laughter]

sachin_05
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@sachin_05 posted:

What does the numbers you throwing around has to do with the price of eggs in a China market? Let me breakdown this a little for you-first not all migrants are supporters of the same party, half of families migrating to the US can be kids, not all voting age, I know at least five family members who has green cards but doesn’t doesn't live in America and thats just who I personally knows. Besides, last time I check its not even unlawful for Guyanese citizens green card holder to return and vote. The numbers you tossing in the air don’t mean squat, you better off sticking to the jumbie vote theory….hahahahaha [maniacal laughter]

Good you can decipher some of the information ,any way keep on sticking to your beliefs that migration is not important. Can you provide the number of returnees who went back to vote in Guyana ?

Django

the opposition must never recognise the current PPP government as legitimate. it was involved in rigging at the last general election

the opposition must continue to expose the racist policies we see employed in the distribution of the covid grant, the flood grant, distribution of contracts, firing of government workers, unequal application of the law of the land etc

pressure must be brought to bear on the government to clean up the voters list (this will be resisted by the PPP for obvious reasons), not allow easy granting of citizenship to venezuelans (and others) that migrated to guyana (latest figure 33,000 venezuelans in guyana) that could potentially affect the outcome of elections, practice good governance and to get gecom ready for elections (local and general) as soon as possible

makes no sense discussing economic theory in a country like guyana. thieves run the country

S
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@sachin_05 posted:

The PNCR and AFC must accept the 2020 election result and recognise the PPP/C as the legitimate government.



Why should they accept ? the election is tainted with irregularities.The Caricom Observers Report of the recount mentioned there are no supporting documents for 29 Ballot Boxes ,their observation of ballot boxes was just over 400 across all Regions.

Of course, leaders and supporters of the PPP/C have been saying that their party gets crossover votes since the last population census has the East Indian population at 39%. I am not convinced about the last census that was released two years late in a fiasco. Surveys such as LAPOP and this newspaper’s recent report on the PNCR’s Brooklyn protest, as well as the stark editorial “The tale of two diasporas” (SN. 21/08/21) tell a different story.

Highly questionable ,detailed voting data and demographics proved otherwise .

LAPOP Serveys are old there are one from 2006 and another from 2009. Some of the information on age group was withheld by the government.

Also there are heavy migration from 2002 to 2011 US Green Card holders are 61,012 and from 2012 to 2019 = 41,192. Factoring other countries the numbers would increase.

My response was to your allegations of rigging highlighted above. Until you provide the proof otherwise [which you claim to have] your PNC will remain the shameless riggers hahahahaha [maniacal laughter]

Hmmm...Suh you is a trained statistician? What was your speciality? Econometrics, Biostatistics, demography or social stats. Dem bais want a new head of Bureau. Send in yuh CV.

FM
@Spugum posted:

the opposition must never recognise the current PPP government as legitimate. it was involved in rigging at the last general election

the opposition must continue to expose the racist policies we see employed in the distribution of the covid grant, the flood grant, distribution of contracts, firing of government workers, unequal application of the law of the land etc

pressure must be brought to bear on the government to clean up the voters list (this will be resisted by the PPP for obvious reasons), not allow easy granting of citizenship to venezuelans (and others) that migrated to guyana (latest figure 33,000 venezuelans in guyana) that could potentially affect the outcome of elections, practice good governance and to get gecom ready for elections (local and general) as soon as possible

makes no sense discussing economic theory in a country like guyana. thieves run the country

Suh, you plan foh bruk up and destabilise? Lol!

FM
@Former Member posted:

Hmmm...Suh you is a trained statistician? What was your speciality? Econometrics, Biostatistics, demography or social stats. Dem bais want a new head of Bureau. Send in yuh CV.

he specializes in maniacal behavior

FM
@Former Member posted:

dr wood, me keep telling yu to please put a more recent photo      

Dem bais seh how TK looking old and bruk up now. Suh de man using young day photo

FM
@Spugum posted:


pressure must be brought to bear on the government to clean up the voters list (this will be resisted by the PPP for obvious reasons), not allow easy granting of citizenship to venezuelans (and others) that migrated to guyana (latest figure 33,000 venezuelans in guyana) that could potentially affect the outcome of elections, practice good governance and to get gecom ready for elections (local and general) as soon as possible



Lol! Yuh dictator instincts showing up deh. Yuh is a ole Burnhamite? Most Venoz is Guyanese returning? Suh, aluh want to suppress de vote? Muss go to 7 ponds and put lil flower pon Burnham tomb. Guyanese...black/Indos/dougla/etc...also returning from TT and Antigua. How yuh feel about them? Meh sure you want the ones from Antigua to vote, na?

FM
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@Former Member posted:

Hmmm...Suh you is a trained statistician? What was your speciality? Econometrics, Bio-statistics, demography or social stats. Dem bais want a new head of Bureau. Send in yuh CV.

Nothing is difficult to learn,when time is in your hand.

I am good bhai ,worked enough.

Django
@Spugum posted:

who told you that?

please share your source of that information with us

Sherod/Khan/Ganesh, aluh like to run around and claim how aluh for one love, cohesion, and dem nice words. Inside aluh is Burnhamites and riggers, scamps and vagabonds. What's the big deal with Venoz? If they are Guyanese aluh Burnham constitution seh they have to vote. It is a non issue if they are not Guyanese...deh cyant vote. Simple as that. PPP cyant go about registering non Guyanese...I for one won't accep that. It tek a long time to become Guyanese citizen. Now, run off and put two flowah on Burnham tomp by 7 pond.

FM
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@Former Member posted:

Sherod/Khan/Ganesh, aluh like to run around and claim how aluh for one love, cohesion, and dem nice words. Inside aluh is Burnhamites and riggers, scamps and vagabonds. What's the big deal with Venoz? If they are Guyanese aluh Burnham constitution seh they have to vote. It is a non issue if they are not Guyanese...deh cyant vote. Simple as that. PPP cyant go about registering non Guyanese...I for one won't accep that. It tek a long time to become Guyanese citizen. Now, run off and put two flowah on Burnham tomp by 7 pond.

the fancy footwork on display is noted. strawman arguments noted also

in the interest of keeping these exchanges focused i would assert that your claim (framed as a question) that most migrant venezuelans are guyanese is false. no guyanese on the ground believes that

in light of the government's recent moves to amend legislation to make registration of births simpler and easier is one to watch. i said granting of citizenship must not become a tool to affect election outcomes. you know what i'm talking about. stop playing the ass!

S
@Spugum posted:

the fancy footwork on display is noted. strawman arguments noted also

in the interest of keeping these exchanges focused i would assert that your claim (framed as a question) that most migrant venezuelans are guyanese is false. no guyanese on the ground believes that

in light of the government's recent moves to amend legislation to make registration of births simpler and easier is one to watch. i said granting of citizenship must not become a tool to affect election outcomes. you know what i'm talking about. stop playing the ass!

My bat and pads are close together and I will put two hook on you and yuh bais dem when yall bowl a loose bouncer. I am not arguing with you about padding the voters list. We seem to agree that granting citizenship for election advantage is a no, no...it is an urgent matter cleaning up the voters list.

FM
@Former Member posted:

My bat and pads are close together and I will put two hook on you and yuh bais dem when yall bowl a loose bouncer. I am not arguing with you about padding the voters list. We seem to agree that granting citizenship for election advantage is a no, no...it is an urgent matter cleaning up the voters list.

bai i don't bowl loose buncers. i tall, strong and does bowl a good line. my buncers are aimed at the chin. be my guest. hook at will. always have a man behind square on the boundary for dem sarwan type hook...lol

S

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