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Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Carpen....another ole jackass whose expiry date has passed.

 

I see these are dem young bestest an brightest the Coalition is attracting

 

Shaits

 

You are on fire tonight, dishing it out left, right and centre. You going to mek some of dem boys cry.

 

I remember being introduced once to dat genius "Dr" Jadoopat at a reception who regaled me with tales of how he was the most important advisor to the Russian PM.

 

I then asked him "really, which Russian PM?" and then proceeded to call a few names.

 

Dis jackass responded: "well, all ah dem." I said: "of course"

 

I can't stand inartful liars. Dem nah even bother to conjure up wan good lie that won't insult my intelligence.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Carpen....another ole jackass whose expiry date has passed.

 

I see these are dem young bestest an brightest the Coalition is attracting

 

Shaits

 

You are on fire tonight, dishing it out left, right and centre. You going to mek some of dem boys cry.

 

I remember being introduced once to dat genius "Dr" Jadoopat at a reception who regaled me with tales of how he was the most important advisor to the Russian PM.

 

I then asked him "really, which Russian PM?" and then proceeded to call a few names.

 

Dis jackass responded: "well, all ah dem." I said: "of course"

 

I can't stand inartful liars. Dem nah even bother to conjure up wan good lie that won't insult my intelligence.

 

LOL

 

Abee Guyanese old men dem proper like to talk fat. You probably made him shi* his pants when you asked him about which PM he advised.

 

This is classic.

FM
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Holy Brahmanical Cow!

 

I could only get through the first 6 mins of this painful worthless interview where one jackass is interviewing wan old irrelevant coolie looking to relive his youth while still embittered that Jagdeo and his Ministers doan invite he fuh drinks an duck curry like Uncle Cheddi used to.

 

The PPP no longer recognizes how important of a man Mel Carpen is.

 

Mel Carpen ah talk pure sk**t. No one gives a flying F how dem use to write letters in 1975 and mildly amuse PNC diplomats by picketing our embassies as they held receptions for foreigners.

 

The expulsion from the PPP of the Mel Carpens of the world is one of the good things Jagdeo did in terms of party governance.

 

Send de Jaganites packing!

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

Mel Carpen suggested that the Marriott Hotel be converted to a specialty hospital. I think it's a wonderful idea.

He also opined that Guyana needs a new political culture characterized by accountability and inclusiveness. Good thinking.

 

Melissa Carpen is one of the jackasses responsible for the present predicament of Guyana and Indians.

 

Antiman dem like Melissa Carpen are the principal reason that the PPP has such an undemocratic party structure. They helped to maintain/sustain the Jaganite cult. So he can F off now that he's a fat old irrelevant fool no one cares for.

 

Is the Coalition gonna mek he Minister of Beef? Or maybe Minister of Dhall Phurri?

FM
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Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Holy Brahmanical Cow!

 

I could only get through the first 6 mins of this painful worthless interview where one jackass is interviewing wan old irrelevant coolie looking to relive his youth while still embittered that Jagdeo and his Ministers doan invite he fuh drinks an duck curry like Uncle Cheddi used to.

 

The PPP no longer recognizes how important of a man Mel Carpen is.

 

Mel Carpen ah talk pure sk**t. No one gives a flying F how dem use to write letters in 1975 and mildly amuse PNC diplomats by picketing our embassies as they held receptions for foreigners.

 

The expulsion from the PPP of the Mel Carpens of the world is one of the good things Jagdeo did in terms of party governance.

 

Send de Jaganites packing!

 

I have to agree with you.

 

I took me a while to accept what you have been saying for a very long time, the Jagans associating with communists destroyed Guyana for good. Burnham was created by Jagan.

 

Fri* the communists and homeless Jaganites.

 

The PPP is not perfect but if we keep the pressure on them, then the pickpocket politicians will have to go and be replaced with a younger and honest generation.

 

It is all about the lesser of two evils, I prefer the PPP evil that I know.

 

FM

Mel Carpen knows full well that Raj Singh has been with the ACG before 1985. But the silver back is playing the Gorilla with himself. I don't have a problem with him supporting another party but what all this monkey business about lying. What program is he propagating? The Marriott will be turning over to private business. Call the Bronx Zoo to let them they have an escapee. He is being trained at the Guyana News and Politics center and is keeping company with a Chimp name Jadoopat.

 

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FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

Mel Carpen suggested that the Marriott Hotel be converted to a specialty hospital. I think it's a wonderful idea.

He also opined that Guyana needs a new political culture characterized by accountability and inclusiveness. Good thinking.

 

Melissa Carpen is one of the jackasses responsible for the present predicament of Guyana and Indians.

 

Antiman dem like Melissa Carpen are the principal reason that the PPP has such an undemocratic party structure. They helped to maintain/sustain the Jaganite cult. So he can F off now that he's a fat old irrelevant fool no one cares for.

 

Is the Coalition gonna mek he Minister of Beef? Or maybe Minister of Dhall Phurri?

You are quite a bitter filthy ****er arent you?

FM
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Mr. Carpen nailed these buggers to the wall they are crawling out of their skin to get away from the factual comments the man has made to describe these crooks in office.

 

Melissa spent a lot of time talking about Melissa. And reminiscing about all the curries he used to share wid Uncle Cheddi.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

I remember being introduced once to dat genius "Dr" Jadoopat at a reception who regaled me with tales of how he was the most important advisor to the Russian PM.

 

I then asked him "really, which Russian PM?" and then proceeded to call a few names.

 

Dis jackass responded: "well, all ah dem." I said: "of course"

 

I can't stand inartful liars. Dem nah even bother to conjure up wan good lie that won't insult my intelligence.

I had no idea Jadoopat was so well known.

A
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Carpen....another ole jackass whose expiry date has passed.

 

I see these are dem young bestest an brightest the Coalition is attracting

One expiration date is not passed until one dies. Kant woke up from his "dogmatic" slumber at 56. So did Cezanne, Monet, Thinking is not crippled with age if one is not diseased. It is not like dancing or other physical activities.

 

The brain does not get tired not does the heart. The idea that youth is wasted on the young did not arise because the young is given to purposeful contemplation. They are an unfocused lot. Life and living gives perspective called experience and that only comes with age.

 

Mr Carpen has seen a lot, knows a lot and on that account is of worth for a unique perspective and not a throw away. I have not agreed with him especially in the early years and still have reservation about many of his opinions but even if he is contrary; he has relevance. He is a thinking being.

 

You are given to imprudence due on unfocused arrogant  use of your thinking faculties. As I said on more than one occasion, you are indeed among the brightest on this site. But I also add you are given to scatterbrained arrogance that hopefully age can temper. Otherwise you are doomed. You do not act normal. You act manic or otherwise mentally imbalanced.

FM

I risk getting a cussing here; I can take it, and give back too.

I must say emphatically that I'm appalled at the malicious treatment meted out to Mel Carpen here. I don't know Dr Rudy Jadoopat personally, nor do I know more than I see on his interviews, so I won't respond to comments on him.

I do know Mel Carpen. I know he was a PPP activist in Guyana before migrating to the US in 1972. I know that at a time when anti-communism was the pivot of American domestic and foreign policies, it took a lot of courage for an immigrant like Mel Carpen to openly associate himself with the "communist" Jagans and the PPP which the US had driven out of office only 8 years before Mel reached America, and which the US was hell-bent on keeping out of power in those harsh Cold War times.

I know that Mel, unlike most Guyanese immigrants in the US, expended considerable time, effort and money from his pocket to help establish and maintain a PPP support group in the belly of imperialist America.

I know that the Jagans recognized and appreciated Mel Carpen's selfless contribution to the PPP's outreach in the US and to the restoration of free and fair elections in Guyana.

Unfortunately, as a result of cliqueism and malicious "news carrying", the post-Jagan PPP hierarchy put Mel Carpen in its black book. As if that were not bad and hurtful enough, we now see in this Political Forum more calumny about Mel by people who should know better.

I looked at that interview with Dr Jadoopat, and Mel clearly stated at the outset that he doesn't like to talk about himself. Nevertheless, Jadoopat's subsequent questions required answers pertaining to Mel's own activities in the PPP support groups in the US.

It is indeed sad to witness here how old PPP stalwarts are maligned. They do not deserve such treatment.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

I risk getting a cussing here; I can take it, and give back too.

I must say emphatically that I'm appalled at the malicious treatment meted out to Mel Carpen here. I don't know Dr Rudy Jadoopat personally, nor do I know more than I see on his interviews, so I won't respond to comments on him.

I do know Mel Carpen. I know he was a PPP activist in Guyana before migrating to the US in 1972. I know that at a time when anti-communism was the pivot of American domestic and foreign policies, it took a lot of courage for an immigrant like Mel Carpen to openly associate himself with the "communist" Jagans and the PPP which the US had driven out of office only 8 years before Mel reached America, and which the US was hell-bent on keeping out of power in those harsh Cold War times.

I know that Mel, unlike most Guyanese immigrants in the US, expended considerable time, effort and money from his pocket to help establish and maintain a PPP support group in the belly of imperialist America.

I know that the Jagans recognized and appreciated Mel Carpen's selfless contribution to the PPP's outreach in the US and to the restoration of free and fair elections in Guyana.

Unfortunately, as a result of cliqueism and malicious "news carrying", the post-Jagan PPP hierarchy put Mel Carpen in its black book. As if that were not bad and hurtful enough, we now see in this Political Forum more calumny about Mel by people who should know better.

I looked at that interview with Dr Jadoopat, and Mel clearly stated at the outset that he doesn't like to talk about himself. Nevertheless, Jadoopat's subsequent questions required answers pertaining to Mel's own activities in the PPP support groups in the US.

It is indeed sad to witness here how old PPP stalwarts are maligned. They do not deserve such treatment.

 

 

 

Spoken like a True Homeless Communist Jaganite. 

FM

Regardless of our political differences, it is absolutely not a nice thing to curse a man like Mel Carpen in this way.  I will alway disagree with him when it comes to the internal PPP party politics of Cheddi and Janet Jagan where there was always a hate fight going on with some East Indian PPP leader.  Nevertheless, calling the man a Zoo ape is just going too far.

Wally
Originally Posted by Wally:

Regardless of our political differences, it is absolutely not a nice thing to curse a man like Mel Carpen in this way.  I will alway disagree with him when it comes to the internal PPP party politics of Cheddi and Janet Jagan where there was always a hate fight going on with some East Indian PPP leader.  Nevertheless, calling the man a Zoo ape is just going too far.

 

Not only does he acts like an ape, he behaves like one. Like all Jaganites, they are homeless and will remain homeless forever.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:

I risk getting a cussing here; I can take it, and give back too.

I must say emphatically that I'm appalled at the malicious treatment meted out to Mel Carpen here. I don't know Dr Rudy Jadoopat personally, nor do I know more than I see on his interviews, so I won't respond to comments on him.

I do know Mel Carpen. I know he was a PPP activist in Guyana before migrating to the US in 1972. I know that at a time when anti-communism was the pivot of American domestic and foreign policies, it took a lot of courage for an immigrant like Mel Carpen to openly associate himself with the "communist" Jagans and the PPP which the US had driven out of office only 8 years before Mel reached America, and which the US was hell-bent on keeping out of power in those harsh Cold War times.

I know that Mel, unlike most Guyanese immigrants in the US, expended considerable time, effort and money from his pocket to help establish and maintain a PPP support group in the belly of imperialist America.

I know that the Jagans recognized and appreciated Mel Carpen's selfless contribution to the PPP's outreach in the US and to the restoration of free and fair elections in Guyana.

Unfortunately, as a result of cliqueism and malicious "news carrying", the post-Jagan PPP hierarchy put Mel Carpen in its black book. As if that were not bad and hurtful enough, we now see in this Political Forum more calumny about Mel by people who should know better.

I looked at that interview with Dr Jadoopat, and Mel clearly stated at the outset that he doesn't like to talk about himself. Nevertheless, Jadoopat's subsequent questions required answers pertaining to Mel's own activities in the PPP support groups in the US.

It is indeed sad to witness here how old PPP stalwarts are maligned. They do not deserve such treatment.

 

 

That's the Mel I know. Thanks Gilly.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Carpen....another ole jackass whose expiry date has passed.

 

I see these are dem young bestest an brightest the Coalition is attracting

Shaitaan, I know Mr Carpen. Your statement is uncalled for, rude, obnoxious and down right WRONG.  People like Mr Carpen has been providing support for our Homeland longer than your age. 

 

Sometimes you simply make ridiculous statement like a street Kid

Nehru
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Carpen....another ole jackass whose expiry date has passed.

 

I see these are dem young bestest an brightest the Coalition is attracting

Shaitaan, I know Mr Carpen. Your statement is uncalled for, rude, obnoxious and down right WRONG.  People like Mr Carpen has been providing support for our Homeland longer than your age. 

 

Sometimes you simply make ridiculous statement like a street Kid

Nehru Bhai

 

I have to disagree with you. Shaitaan is correct in this case.

 

All crabdwags like Carpen who are working with the PNC to destroy the PPP are traitors and must be addressed as such.

 

He may have contributed in the past but his current dirty actions outweigh what he did in the past and this is what matters today and this is how politics work.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Carpen....another ole jackass whose expiry date has passed.

 

I see these are dem young bestest an brightest the Coalition is attracting

Shaitaan, I know Mr Carpen. Your statement is uncalled for, rude, obnoxious and down right WRONG.  People like Mr Carpen has been providing support for our Homeland longer than your age. 

 

Sometimes you simply make ridiculous statement like a street Kid

Nehru Bhai

 

I have to disagree with you. Shaitaan is correct in this case.

 

All crabdwags like Carpen who are working with the PNC to destroy the PPP are traitors and must be addressed as such.

 

He may have contributed in the past but his current dirty actions outweigh what he did in the past and this is what matters today and this is how politics work.

A more profound example of how politics works is how you turn on the man and how you now cussing PPP Jaganites. You are a perfect example of the dirtiness of politics.

A
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Carpen....another ole jackass whose expiry date has passed.

 

I see these are dem young bestest an brightest the Coalition is attracting

Shaitaan, I know Mr Carpen. Your statement is uncalled for, rude, obnoxious and down right WRONG.  People like Mr Carpen has been providing support for our Homeland longer than your age. 

 

Sometimes you simply make ridiculous statement like a street Kid

Nehru Bhai

 

I have to disagree with you. Shaitaan is correct in this case.

 

All crabdwags like Carpen who are working with the PNC to destroy the PPP are traitors and must be addressed as such.

 

He may have contributed in the past but his current dirty actions outweigh what he did in the past and this is what matters today and this is how politics work.

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Mitwah
Originally Posted by antabanta:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Carpen....another ole jackass whose expiry date has passed.

 

I see these are dem young bestest an brightest the Coalition is attracting

Shaitaan, I know Mr Carpen. Your statement is uncalled for, rude, obnoxious and down right WRONG.  People like Mr Carpen has been providing support for our Homeland longer than your age. 

 

Sometimes you simply make ridiculous statement like a street Kid

Nehru Bhai

 

I have to disagree with you. Shaitaan is correct in this case.

 

All crabdwags like Carpen who are working with the PNC to destroy the PPP are traitors and must be addressed as such.

 

He may have contributed in the past but his current dirty actions outweigh what he did in the past and this is what matters today and this is how politics work.

A more profound example of how politics works is how you turn on the man and how you now cussing PPP Jaganites. 

Welcome to the world of politics. That is the reality of how it works.

Grow up.

 

Neemakharam Moses is now cussing the PPP while he hides under Granger's Kilt. Read up on what Moses said about the PNC in the past.

 

Live and learn about politics.

FM
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Originally Posted by Django:

The cesspool started when the current cabal under Jagdeo

derailed the tenets of the PPP,they shrunk to the bottom of

the pit and daily they malign individuals of impeccable

character.Where is the morality of these so called principled

people?????

It started with Dr Jagan  and peopl like Mel Carpen who up to this day who  still belive Jagan was God.

It is Jag who did not tolerated democracy at Freedom House hence the hand selected thieves who are currently there.

Chief
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by antabanta:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Carpen....another ole jackass whose expiry date has passed.

 

I see these are dem young bestest an brightest the Coalition is attracting

Shaitaan, I know Mr Carpen. Your statement is uncalled for, rude, obnoxious and down right WRONG.  People like Mr Carpen has been providing support for our Homeland longer than your age. 

 

Sometimes you simply make ridiculous statement like a street Kid

Nehru Bhai

 

I have to disagree with you. Shaitaan is correct in this case.

 

All crabdwags like Carpen who are working with the PNC to destroy the PPP are traitors and must be addressed as such.

 

He may have contributed in the past but his current dirty actions outweigh what he did in the past and this is what matters today and this is how politics work.

A more profound example of how politics works is how you turn on the man and how you now cussing PPP Jaganites. 

Welcome to the world of politics. That is the reality of how it works.

Grow up.

 

Neemakharam Moses is now cussing the PPP while he hides under Granger's Kilt. Read up on what Moses said about the PNC in the past.

 

Live and learn about politics.

Really? I am indeed fortunate to benefit from such pearls of wisdom. But was there absolutely no way you could come up with anything more intelligent?

In any case, can we take this as your confession that you're just playing politics? That you lie a lot? That you words are meaningless? That most of the time you don't have a clue what you're talking about? After all, you're suddenly this so politically worldly individual.

A
Originally Posted by antabanta:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Carpen....another ole jackass whose expiry date has passed.

 

I see these are dem young bestest an brightest the Coalition is attracting

Shaitaan, I know Mr Carpen. Your statement is uncalled for, rude, obnoxious and down right WRONG.  People like Mr Carpen has been providing support for our Homeland longer than your age. 

 

Sometimes you simply make ridiculous statement like a street Kid

Nehru Bhai

 

I have to disagree with you. Shaitaan is correct in this case.

 

All crabdwags like Carpen who are working with the PNC to destroy the PPP are traitors and must be addressed as such.

 

He may have contributed in the past but his current dirty actions outweigh what he did in the past and this is what matters today and this is how politics work.

A more profound example of how politics works is how you turn on the man and how you now cussing PPP Jaganites. 

Welcome to the world of politics. That is the reality of how it works.

Grow up.

 

Neemakharam Moses is now cussing the PPP while he hides under Granger's Kilt. Read up on what Moses said about the PNC in the past.

 

Live and learn about politics.

What a craven stupid little piece of shi.t! If Politics is not the craven despotism or opportunism, what is it we see in the PPP or in those like yourselves? If it is only what,  would not ever have a "worthy" position defensible from some moral stand point?  Would  you would simply argue the good or bad of of a thing depending which side of the argument is beneficial to you at the moment? You are a complete moron.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Carpen....another ole jackass whose expiry date has passed.

 

I see these are dem young bestest an brightest the Coalition is attracting

One expiration date is not passed until one dies. Kant woke up from his "dogmatic" slumber at 56. So did Cezanne, Monet, Thinking is not crippled with age if one is not diseased. It is not like dancing or other physical activities.

 

The brain does not get tired not does the heart. The idea that youth is wasted on the young did not arise because the young is given to purposeful contemplation. They are an unfocused lot. Life and living gives perspective called experience and that only comes with age.

 

Mr Carpen has seen a lot, knows a lot and on that account is of worth for a unique perspective and not a throw away. I have not agreed with him especially in the early years and still have reservation about many of his opinions but even if he is contrary; he has relevance. He is a thinking being.

 

You are given to imprudence due on unfocused arrogant  use of your thinking faculties. As I said on more than one occasion, you are indeed among the brightest on this site. But I also add you are given to scatterbrained arrogance that hopefully age can temper. Otherwise you are doomed. You do not act normal. You act manic or otherwise mentally imbalanced.

 

I doan know which is worse...your insults or your "compliments" laced with malathion. I suppose I should be grateful that you don't think me a complete idiot. I am imprudent as you say on all things Guyana because we have baddies and other baddies. I doan know who the goodies are in Guyana. Even my "friends" in Guyanese politics I hesitate to think of as the goodies. At best they are the lessor baddies. That you think this is indicative of some PTSD related symptom is not my issue dude. What you think of as arrogance is generally the impatience I just have with stupid people. I can't handle rank stupidity. I really really can't. Notice how I display little patience for my Cousin Snake even though I still like him. I still have no qualms in saying he ought to get a few bullets in the body on his next trip to Guyana so as to disabuse him of the notion that Guyana is a safe place for ordinary people.

 

I agree with your opening remarks on age and wisdom. I am a better individual as I age (in my opinion) because it brings experience.

 

Mel is a whole different kettle of bangamary. His framework is Jaganism. He longs for the bygone era of glorious PPP struggle to bring about the triumph of the working classes under "pure" PPP rule. The problem that these diehard communists don't understand is that the things that come with such purity have brought us to the present state.

 

PPP corruption and misrule are not an abherration of communism and Jaganism but the natural consequence thereof. The 2015 PPP is what Mel et al built and saddled us with. He cannot wash his hands in the manner of Pilate from it. Further, Mel Carpen cannot be part of the solution because his ideology gave us the problem in the first place and he has had no Saul of Tarsus on the proverbial road to Damascus moment. Mel Carpen is the same man he was in 1975 fighting the good communist fight. Which means I must oppose him because of who he is and his worldview. The world has moved on from these failed experiments. We cannot get our new breakthrough pharmaceutical formulas from the alchemists of yesterday. (Please don't give me a lecture on how alchemy birthed chemistry. I got that.). It's a limited analogy. Mel Carpen is an alchemist in 2015. A sincere one I'm sure. He really believes in the perennial quest for the Philosopher's Stone. I don't wanna join him on this fool's errand in the forlorn hope that he may yet succeed in arriving at this mythical destination given just a little more time and investment.

FM
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Django:

The cesspool started when the current cabal under Jagdeo

derailed the tenets of the PPP,they shrunk to the bottom of

the pit and daily they malign individuals of impeccable

character.Where is the morality of these so called principled

people?????

It started with Dr Jagan  and peopl like Mel Carpen who up to this day who  still belive Jagan was God.

It is Jag who did not tolerated democracy at Freedom House hence the hand selected thieves who are currently there.

 

Thank you. The 2015 PPP is not some different creature from the Jagan PPP. It is the Jagan PPP. The PPP is operating exactly as the Jagans set it up to run.

 

The problem is not with the clock but the clockmaker.

FM
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Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Carpen....another ole jackass whose expiry date has passed.

 

I see these are dem young bestest an brightest the Coalition is attracting

One expiration date is not passed until one dies. Kant woke up from his "dogmatic" slumber at 56. So did Cezanne, Monet, Thinking is not crippled with age if one is not diseased. It is not like dancing or other physical activities.

 

The brain does not get tired not does the heart. The idea that youth is wasted on the young did not arise because the young is given to purposeful contemplation. They are an unfocused lot. Life and living gives perspective called experience and that only comes with age.

 

Mr Carpen has seen a lot, knows a lot and on that account is of worth for a unique perspective and not a throw away. I have not agreed with him especially in the early years and still have reservation about many of his opinions but even if he is contrary; he has relevance. He is a thinking being.

 

You are given to imprudence due on unfocused arrogant  use of your thinking faculties. As I said on more than one occasion, you are indeed among the brightest on this site. But I also add you are given to scatterbrained arrogance that hopefully age can temper. Otherwise you are doomed. You do not act normal. You act manic or otherwise mentally imbalanced.

 

I doan know which is worse...your insults or your "compliments" laced with malathion. I suppose I should be grateful that you don't think me a complete idiot. I am imprudent as you say on all things Guyana because we have baddies and other baddies. I doan know who the goodies are in Guyana. Even my "friends" in Guyanese politics I hesitate to think of as the goodies. At best they are the lessor baddies. That you think this is indicative of some PTSD related symptom is not my issue dude. What you think of as arrogance is generally the impatience I just have with stupid people. I can't handle rank stupidity. I really really can't. Notice how I display little patience for my Cousin Snake even though I still like him. I still have no qualms in saying he ought to get a few bullets in the body on his next trip to Guyana so as to disabuse him of the notion that Guyana is a safe place for ordinary people.

 

I agree with your opening remarks on age and wisdom. I am a better individual as I age (in my opinion) because it brings experience.

 

Mel is a whole different kettle of bangamary. His framework is Jaganism. He longs for the bygone era of glorious PPP struggle to bring about the triumph of the working classes under "pure" PPP rule. The problem that these diehard communists don't understand is that the things that come with such purity have brought us to the present state.

 

PPP corruption and misrule are not an abherration of communism and Jaganism but the natural consequence thereof. The 2015 PPP is what Mel et al built and saddled us with. He cannot wash his hands in the manner of Pilate from it. Further, Mel Carpen cannot be part of the solution because his ideology gave us the problem in the first place and he has had no Saul of Tarsus on the proverbial road to Damascus moment. Mel Carpen is the same man he was in 1975 fighting the good communist fight. Which means I must oppose him because of who he is and his worldview. The world has moved on from these failed experiments. We cannot get our new breakthrough pharmaceutical formulas from the alchemists of yesterday. (Please don't give me a lecture on how alchemy birthed chemistry. I got that.). It's a limited analogy. Mel Carpen is an alchemist in 2015. A sincere one I'm sure. He really believes in the perennial quest for the Philosopher's Stone. I don't wanna join him on this fool's errand in the forlorn hope that he may yet succeed in arriving at this mythical destination given just a little more time and investment.

I am not arguing with your hypothesis. I argue with our insult to poster here who tried in his way with integrity and deliberation to forward a view of our reality. I am discounting the notion that any can be deemed useless. That is nihilistic.

 

I agree that the Jagan era with its obsessive commitment to soviet style Marxist dialectics has been the cause of our greatest woe. We got Burnham, and Burnham was later  seduced by it in his cascade of 70's Marxist bent Pan African outlook. We ended up the victims of both groups. Jagan would not have saved us if he remained in office because we would be another Cuba.

 

I see Carpen's use is in his explanation of the origins and the infighting of that Jaganite group and its transformation from communist to crony capitalist. He may be coming to a cathartic moment with his fresh eyes on our political reality. You are still in need of fresh eyes. You see only the Indian African dichotomy not the need for us to be accommodating of each other without being ingratiating to the sheeple on either side. You take an indian needs defending position and not all of us need defending or we are heading for a showdown.

FM
Originally Posted by Georgie:
Originally Posted by Mars:

 

I have heard nothing new from Mel Carpen here?  Actually he comes across as a sour grape.  Does he have a problem with Raj Singh.

 

I know Raj is unqualified for the Guysuco job, but is this personal or we trying to save a country from some real bad PPP public policies?

 

 

Everyone should have a problem with Raj Singh. He is what is wrong with us politically in general and specifically what is wrong with GUYSUCO... merit over nepotism ...competence over cronyism

FM

Mel's discussion on Economics., Policies, Race and Corruption(Lack of Transparency/Accountability) are spot on. However, I would like him to look me in the eye and seriously tell that is is confident that the PNC would have done a better Job??  That the PNC is fit to Rule Guyana, that the Guyanese people should RISK it all because he feels that the PPP has not done enough!!!!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Carpen....another ole jackass whose expiry date has passed.

 

I see these are dem young bestest an brightest the Coalition is attracting

One expiration date is not passed until one dies. Kant woke up from his "dogmatic" slumber at 56. So did Cezanne, Monet, Thinking is not crippled with age if one is not diseased. It is not like dancing or other physical activities.

 

The brain does not get tired not does the heart. The idea that youth is wasted on the young did not arise because the young is given to purposeful contemplation. They are an unfocused lot. Life and living gives perspective called experience and that only comes with age.

 

Mr Carpen has seen a lot, knows a lot and on that account is of worth for a unique perspective and not a throw away. I have not agreed with him especially in the early years and still have reservation about many of his opinions but even if he is contrary; he has relevance. He is a thinking being.

 

You are given to imprudence due on unfocused arrogant  use of your thinking faculties. As I said on more than one occasion, you are indeed among the brightest on this site. But I also add you are given to scatterbrained arrogance that hopefully age can temper. Otherwise you are doomed. You do not act normal. You act manic or otherwise mentally imbalanced.

 

I doan know which is worse...your insults or your "compliments" laced with malathion. I suppose I should be grateful that you don't think me a complete idiot. I am imprudent as you say on all things Guyana because we have baddies and other baddies. I doan know who the goodies are in Guyana. Even my "friends" in Guyanese politics I hesitate to think of as the goodies. At best they are the lessor baddies. That you think this is indicative of some PTSD related symptom is not my issue dude. What you think of as arrogance is generally the impatience I just have with stupid people. I can't handle rank stupidity. I really really can't. Notice how I display little patience for my Cousin Snake even though I still like him. I still have no qualms in saying he ought to get a few bullets in the body on his next trip to Guyana so as to disabuse him of the notion that Guyana is a safe place for ordinary people.

 

I agree with your opening remarks on age and wisdom. I am a better individual as I age (in my opinion) because it brings experience.

 

Mel is a whole different kettle of bangamary. His framework is Jaganism. He longs for the bygone era of glorious PPP struggle to bring about the triumph of the working classes under "pure" PPP rule. The problem that these diehard communists don't understand is that the things that come with such purity have brought us to the present state.

 

PPP corruption and misrule are not an abherration of communism and Jaganism but the natural consequence thereof. The 2015 PPP is what Mel et al built and saddled us with. He cannot wash his hands in the manner of Pilate from it. Further, Mel Carpen cannot be part of the solution because his ideology gave us the problem in the first place and he has had no Saul of Tarsus on the proverbial road to Damascus moment. Mel Carpen is the same man he was in 1975 fighting the good communist fight. Which means I must oppose him because of who he is and his worldview. The world has moved on from these failed experiments. We cannot get our new breakthrough pharmaceutical formulas from the alchemists of yesterday. (Please don't give me a lecture on how alchemy birthed chemistry. I got that.). It's a limited analogy. Mel Carpen is an alchemist in 2015. A sincere one I'm sure. He really believes in the perennial quest for the Philosopher's Stone. I don't wanna join him on this fool's errand in the forlorn hope that he may yet succeed in arriving at this mythical destination given just a little more time and investment.

I am not arguing with your hypothesis. I argue with our insult to poster here who tried in his way with integrity and deliberation to forward a view of our reality. I am discounting the notion that any can be deemed useless. That is nihilistic.

 

I agree that the Jagan era with its obsessive commitment to soviet style Marxist dialectics has been the cause of our greatest woe. We got Burnham, and Burnham was later  seduced by it in his cascade of 70's Marxist bent Pan African outlook. We ended up the victims of both groups. Jagan would not have saved us if he remained in office because we would be another Cuba.

 

I see Carpen's use is in his explanation of the origins and the infighting of that Jaganite group and its transformation from communist to crony capitalist. He may be coming to a cathartic moment with his fresh eyes on our political reality. You are still in need of fresh eyes. You see only the Indian African dichotomy not the need for us to be accommodating of each other without being ingratiating to the sheeple on either side. You take an indian needs defending position and not all of us need defending or we are heading for a showdown.

 

Mel can have all the integrity and deliberation in the world but he's still who he is. An unrepentant unreformed communist Jaganite. I've seen Mel and his cultists in action.

 

Not so long ago, AFC-NYC held it's first post-2011 Meeting and I was asked to be present. I attended. Mel was there. He behaved like some agent provocateur. He broke up the meeting basically because the AFC Treasurer at the time the late Sankar and poster Jay Bharrat here said something mild against the great communist coolie gaad Jagan and how we must make a clean break with the Jaganite legacy. Holy Cow did mel Carpen's vagina go into a rage. It was absolutely infantile, disgusting, and unworthy of a man of his age or of any age. He behaved like a rum shap coolie. Worse, he behaved like a true Jaganite. He represented the voice of the minority at the meeting and sought to drown out the voice of the anti-Jagan majority by behaving like a petty thug. This is how Jaganites behave. They can never be part of an organization. They must dominate it. I was actually left as the voice of reason who advocated that we should not say anything anti-Jagan for the sake of the comfort level of Mel et al who worship Jagan. He made a quiet political meeting at a restaurant a shouting match between people on the same page. Should the Coalition win, Granger is gonna have to rein in these madmen Jaganites.

 

As well before, I had another social interaction with Melissa years ago at a friendly function and he actually personally insulted me in front of several others for not sharing his political opinions like a true Jaganite. I smiled and let it slide because what do you expect of Jagan's low class coolies. These people truly believe in destroying any Indian who disagrees with them. So therefore we must consign them to the dustbin of history.

 

So yea, I know our Melissa. And ole Jaganite Antiman who only knows how to shout down people who disagree with him and bruk up AFC Meetings as an ostensible "friend of the AFC." He represents an era of Indian political culture that must die off.

 

P.S...It is perfectly possible that Mel is a plant in the AFC for the benefit of Ramotar. That's an old tactic in the Jaganite playbook.

FM

Mel did an excellent job, but he failed on two points. Dr. Jadopat ask the question on Raj Singh and Mel said he didn't know why he ask that question. Even though Mel didn't want to say anything about Raj Singh, he did a good job to discredit Mr. Singh by saying he was unqualified to be CEO of GUYSUCO, and when on to say that Mr. Singh didn't earn a PhD.

 

The second point is when he was asked to face the viewer and tell them who to vote for. Mel was trying to be neutral by saying that people should look at both manifestos and make their decisions. Yet, at the end, Mel said candidly to vote for the coalitions. The interview was designed to endorse the coalition. That's my opinion.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:

Mel did an excellent job, but he failed on two points. Dr. Jadopat ask the question on Raj Singh and Mel said he didn't know why he ask that question. Even though Mel didn't want to say anything about Raj Singh, he did a good job to discredit Mr. Singh by saying he was unqualified to be CEO of GUYSUCO, and when on to say that Mr. Singh didn't earn a PhD.

 

The second point is when he was asked to face the viewer and tell them who to vote for. Mel was trying to be neutral by saying that people should look at both manifestos and make their decisions. Yet, at the end, Mel said candidly to vote for the coalitions. The interview was designed to endorse the coalition. That's my opinion.

Dont blame Mel, blame Jhaatoopat.  Mel should question Jhatoopat PHD

Nehru
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Mr. Carpen nailed these buggers to the wall they are crawling out of their skin to get away from the factual comments the man has made to describe these crooks in office.

 

Melissa spent a lot of time talking about Melissa. And reminiscing about all the curries he used to share wid Uncle Cheddi.

Your descent into filth is not very surprising. Your lack or articulation and or sophistication in expressing your dissatisfaction or disagreement with Mr. Carpen brings out the best in you.

FM
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Mr. Carpen nailed these buggers to the wall they are crawling out of their skin to get away from the factual comments the man has made to describe these crooks in office.

 

Melissa spent a lot of time talking about Melissa. And reminiscing about all the curries he used to share wid Uncle Cheddi.

Your descent into filth is not very surprising. Your lack or articulation and or sophistication in expressing your dissatisfaction or disagreement with Mr. Carpen brings out the best in you.

But Shaitaan can say, " Look who is talking"!!

Nehru
Originally Posted by Cobra:

Mel did an excellent job, but he failed on two points. Dr. Jadopat ask the question on Raj Singh and Mel said he didn't know why he ask that question. Even though Mel didn't want to say anything about Raj Singh, he did a good job to discredit Mr. Singh by saying he was unqualified to be CEO of GUYSUCO, and when on to say that Mr. Singh didn't earn a PhD.

 

The second point is when he was asked to face the viewer and tell them who to vote for. Mel was trying to be neutral by saying that people should look at both manifestos and make their decisions. Yet, at the end, Mel said candidly to vote for the coalitions. The interview was designed to endorse the coalition. That's my opinion.

well even a fool is entitle to a opinion 

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Mr. Carpen nailed these buggers to the wall they are crawling out of their skin to get away from the factual comments the man has made to describe these crooks in office.

 

Melissa spent a lot of time talking about Melissa. And reminiscing about all the curries he used to share wid Uncle Cheddi.

Your descent into filth is not very surprising. Your lack or articulation and or sophistication in expressing your dissatisfaction or disagreement with Mr. Carpen brings out the best in you.

But Shaitaan can say, " Look who is talking"!!

Ok Captain irrelevant.

FM
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Mr. Carpen nailed these buggers to the wall they are crawling out of their skin to get away from the factual comments the man has made to describe these crooks in office.

 

Melissa spent a lot of time talking about Melissa. And reminiscing about all the curries he used to share wid Uncle Cheddi.

Your descent into filth is not very surprising. Your lack or articulation and or sophistication in expressing your dissatisfaction or disagreement with Mr. Carpen brings out the best in you.

 

Look Antiman,

 

In case you missed it....I helped to organize the first AFC Meeting post 2011 Election. I even provided the discounted free fry rice and fry chicken at Caribbean Cabana thanks to a generous relative.

 

It was your fellow Antiman Melissa Carpen who bruk up that meeting so that nothing got accomplished that night except some minor housekeeping matters for the AFC.

 

Mel Carpen who recently bruk up an important AFC meeting in NYC is now ayuh friend.

 

Notice that Melissa couldn't even bring himself to urge people to vote for the Coalition.

 

That's because he wants the Coalition to lose!

FM
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Mel's discussion on Economics., Policies, Race and Corruption(Lack of Transparency/Accountability) are spot on. However, I would like him to look me in the eye and seriously tell that is is confident that the PNC would have done a better Job??  That the PNC is fit to Rule Guyana, that the Guyanese people should RISK it all because he feels that the PPP has not done enough!!!!!

 

When the PNC had a ONE PARTY state 23 years ago, you were told it wasn't good. Suh now, you are advocating a Jagdeo Clan ONE PARTY State.

 

That is a backward kulie thinking. Its got to be.

 

Cuz many poor countries looks forward to change. If it is necessary.

S
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Mel's discussion on Economics., Policies, Race and Corruption(Lack of Transparency/Accountability) are spot on. However, I would like him to look me in the eye and seriously tell that is is confident that the PNC would have done a better Job??  That the PNC is fit to Rule Guyana, that the Guyanese people should RISK it all because he feels that the PPP has not done enough!!!!!

 

When the PNC had a ONE PARTY state 23 years ago, you were told it wasn't good. Suh now, you are advocating a Jagdeo Clan ONE PARTY State.

 

That is a backward kulie thinking. Its got to be.

 

Cuz many poor countries looks forward to change. If it is necessary.

Do you understand the concept of verified FREE and FAIR Election??  I guess not.

Nehru
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Mr. Carpen nailed these buggers to the wall they are crawling out of their skin to get away from the factual comments the man has made to describe these crooks in office.

 

Melissa spent a lot of time talking about Melissa. And reminiscing about all the curries he used to share wid Uncle Cheddi.

Your descent into filth is not very surprising. Your lack or articulation and or sophistication in expressing your dissatisfaction or disagreement with Mr. Carpen brings out the best in you.

 

Look Antiman,

 

In case you missed it....I helped to organize the first AFC Meeting post 2011 Election. I even provided the discounted free fry rice and fry chicken at Caribbean Cabana thanks to a generous relative.

 

It was your fellow Antiman Melissa Carpen who bruk up that meeting so that nothing got accomplished that night except some minor housekeeping matters for the AFC.

 

Mel Carpen who recently bruk up an important AFC meeting in NYC is now ayuh friend.

 

Notice that Melissa couldn't even bring himself to urge people to vote for the Coalition.

 

That's because he wants the Coalition to lose!

Jagdeo gat long arms. Carpen scared to commit.

 

At the Breakfast gathering. I noticed two guys standing at the door. I inquired why dey by the door. Was told, Moses Bodyguards.

 

My response, "Why, is the Ramotar Clique bothering him." The reply, "The PPP always try to kill their dissidents." 

 

That is the culture of backward kulies. Keep progress back.

S
Originally Posted by Nehru:
Originally Posted by seignet:
Originally Posted by Nehru:

Mel's discussion on Economics., Policies, Race and Corruption(Lack of Transparency/Accountability) are spot on. However, I would like him to look me in the eye and seriously tell that is is confident that the PNC would have done a better Job??  That the PNC is fit to Rule Guyana, that the Guyanese people should RISK it all because he feels that the PPP has not done enough!!!!!

 

When the PNC had a ONE PARTY state 23 years ago, you were told it wasn't good. Suh now, you are advocating a Jagdeo Clan ONE PARTY State.

 

That is a backward kulie thinking. Its got to be.

 

Cuz many poor countries looks forward to change. If it is necessary.

Do you understand the concept of verified FREE and FAIR Election??  I guess not.

You would deny Democracy. That is a wisdom Thing.

 

www.timehritoday.blogspot.com

 

"Democracy Demands Wisdom"

S
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Mr. Carpen nailed these buggers to the wall they are crawling out of their skin to get away from the factual comments the man has made to describe these crooks in office.

 

Melissa spent a lot of time talking about Melissa. And reminiscing about all the curries he used to share wid Uncle Cheddi.

Your descent into filth is not very surprising. Your lack or articulation and or sophistication in expressing your dissatisfaction or disagreement with Mr. Carpen brings out the best in you.

 

Look Antiman,

 

In case you missed it....I helped to organize the first AFC Meeting post 2011 Election. I even provided the discounted free fry rice and fry chicken at Caribbean Cabana thanks to a generous relative.

 

It was your fellow Antiman Melissa Carpen who bruk up that meeting so that nothing got accomplished that night except some minor housekeeping matters for the AFC.

 

Mel Carpen who recently bruk up an important AFC meeting in NYC is now ayuh friend.

 

Notice that Melissa couldn't even bring himself to urge people to vote for the Coalition.

 

That's because he wants the Coalition to lose!

The man probably realized you were a total ***** hole and therefore he rightfully bruk up de meeting the AFC didn't need your ugly *****.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Mr. Carpen nailed these buggers to the wall they are crawling out of their skin to get away from the factual comments the man has made to describe these crooks in office.

 

Melissa spent a lot of time talking about Melissa. And reminiscing about all the curries he used to share wid Uncle Cheddi.

Your descent into filth is not very surprising. Your lack or articulation and or sophistication in expressing your dissatisfaction or disagreement with Mr. Carpen brings out the best in you.

 

Look Antiman,

 

In case you missed it....I helped to organize the first AFC Meeting post 2011 Election. I even provided the discounted free fry rice and fry chicken at Caribbean Cabana thanks to a generous relative.

 

It was your fellow Antiman Melissa Carpen who bruk up that meeting so that nothing got accomplished that night except some minor housekeeping matters for the AFC.

 

Mel Carpen who recently bruk up an important AFC meeting in NYC is now ayuh friend.

 

Notice that Melissa couldn't even bring himself to urge people to vote for the Coalition.

 

That's because he wants the Coalition to lose!

A lot of wasted energy going after Mel Shaits. Lets engage on the PPP cabal's flight preparations. Watch when some properties in Queens and Brooklyn get seized. We've seen this before.

Kari
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

Carpen....another ole jackass whose expiry date has passed.

 

I see these are dem young bestest an brightest the Coalition is attracting

 

Shaits

 

You are on fire tonight, dishing it out left, right and centre. You going to mek some of dem boys cry.

 

I remember being introduced once to dat genius "Dr" Jadoopat at a reception who regaled me with tales of how he was the most important advisor to the Russian PM.

 

I then asked him "really, which Russian PM?" and then proceeded to call a few names.

 

Dis jackass responded: "well, all ah dem." I said: "of course"

 

I can't stand inartful liars. Dem nah even bother to conjure up wan good lie that won't insult my intelligence.

"Dr" Rampadarat (Rudy) Jadoopat, I went to school with the banna.  Nuff mouth, dem banna would hold their fist in the air chanting "down with America, long live the Almighty USSR".  Was a good laugh.

 

If he had that pull, he would not by hanging out in NY.

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by HM_Redux:

Mr. Carpen nailed these buggers to the wall they are crawling out of their skin to get away from the factual comments the man has made to describe these crooks in office.

 

Melissa spent a lot of time talking about Melissa. And reminiscing about all the curries he used to share wid Uncle Cheddi.

Your descent into filth is not very surprising. Your lack or articulation and or sophistication in expressing your dissatisfaction or disagreement with Mr. Carpen brings out the best in you.

 

Look Antiman,

 

In case you missed it....I helped to organize the first AFC Meeting post 2011 Election. I even provided the discounted free fry rice and fry chicken at Caribbean Cabana thanks to a generous relative.

 

It was your fellow Antiman Melissa Carpen who bruk up that meeting so that nothing got accomplished that night except some minor housekeeping matters for the AFC.

 

Mel Carpen who recently bruk up an important AFC meeting in NYC is now ayuh friend.

 

Notice that Melissa couldn't even bring himself to urge people to vote for the Coalition.

 

That's because he wants the Coalition to lose!

A lot of wasted energy going after Mel Shaits. Lets engage on the PPP cabal's flight preparations. Watch when some properties in Queens and Brooklyn get seized. We've seen this before.

 

I'm just pointing out that Mel sabotaged the AFC's meeting in which they actually resolved to create and fund a party infrastructure in Berbice 2-3 years ago.

 

Mel succeeded in friggin up the meeting so abbe could save the honor of that great coolie gaad Cheddar Jagan.

FM

Many people like Mr. Carpen a strong supporter of the PPP, are embarrassed that the PPP has defined themselves by their crookishness.  They have forgotten the working class, and so have lost people's support.

 

I call on all the people of Berbice, and those who switched to the AFC to stay with the AFC.  Stay the course, a new day is coming.

FM
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

Many people like Mr. Carpen a strong supporter of the PPP, are embarrassed that the PPP has defined themselves by their crookishness.  They have forgotten the working class, and so have lost people's support.

 

I call on all the people of Berbice, and those who switched to the AFC to stay with the AFC.  Stay the course, a new day is coming.

Vote AFC = Vote PNC.  Never.

FM
Originally Posted by Kari:

A lot of wasted energy going after Mel Shaits. Lets engage on the PPP cabal's flight preparations. Watch when some properties in Queens and Brooklyn get seized. We've seen this before.

It's not so much about the person Mel, I personally like Mel Carpen.

It's more about the brainwashed JAGANITES WHO WERE WRONG IN THE 60'S, 70'S, 80'S ,90'S, AND HAS NOW BECOME IRRELEVANT.

As a matter of fact history has proven these communists as failures. so When folks keep quoting the biggest communist in the English speaking Carribean, Jagan, one cannot help but to say loud and clear, Jagan  AND HIS FOLLOWERS HAS NO RELEVANCE IN TODAYS ELESTIONS.

Chief
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Kari:

A lot of wasted energy going after Mel Shaits. Lets engage on the PPP cabal's flight preparations. Watch when some properties in Queens and Brooklyn get seized. We've seen this before.

It's not so much about the person Mel, I personally like Mel Carpen.

It's more about the brainwashed JAGANITES WHO WERE WRONG IN THE 60'S, 70'S, 80'S ,90'S, AND HAS NOW BECOME IRRELEVANT.

As a matter of fact history has proven these communists as failures. so When folks keep quoting the biggest communist in the English speaking Carribean, Jagan, one cannot help but to say loud and clear, Jagan  AND HIS FOLLOWERS HAS NO RELEVANCE IN TODAYS ELESTIONS.

Chief, you must have missed my reply to you on GNI Jagannites. Here it is:

 

Chief, there is a danger that you're missing the picture here. It's not about Jagan this and Jagan that. That's what the PPP boys point to the AFC supporters and say lookie.

 

Forget what any GNIers or whomsoever say about Cheddi or for tat matter Burnham. This election is not about what they mean to supporters of the AFC; APNU or PPP. It's about the current custodians of the PPP who are against the old PPP (and thus Shaitaan is happy for the PPP and you are an ally in that you grab on to Shaitaan's mantra). It's like ISIS being admired by someone who look at the orthodox Sunni and say....see they're past their prime. And this PPP is like that ISIS.

 

Now like shaitaan I do not like much of the old PPP either. I've written here many times about the Soviet Politburo style and Jagan's critical support in the mid-70s that had us looking for our leaders and couldn't find them, etc. We also did not like the legacy of Jagdeo they left behind.

 

But that is not the point.

 

The point is that this PPP insults Guyanese; represents us as a banana republic. This PPP is about to be eaten alive by the authorities gathering the information to drop licks on the narco leaders. The country is about to bring their pitch forks and seize the gated community assets and Mercedes and bank accounts.

 

Like 2008 US, if you vote McCain you are on the wrong side of history.

 

So stop this Jagan bashing and keep your eyes on the prize.

Kari

Chief you have to drop this obsession. Wait until somebody tek the pre-1992 Jagan and use his policies. Then you can get on your soap box. Meantime see what these cats have been up to since 2001 and see if you celebrate it. Like Shaitaan got you not only giving him ?Yankee tickets but got you echoing his mantra. Rass bhai like you got intimidated by Shaitaan like Ray the admin who banned Jalil?

Kari

Kari,

I do not have the luxury of time to read every thread and post.

 

Jagan is the root cause of today's problems. He kicked Nagamootoo to the curb and Nagamootoo cannot get over that brainwashed that Jagan was not a God.

Do you think the young voters who are against the PPP care what  Jagan had  wanted.  fore Guyana whan facts speak for itself that his current pack of thieves  is Jagan leagcy.

Iam  not surprised that Mel and Nagamootoo still worship that jackass Jagan although he left them in the wind. The reason Iam not surprise is becase the extensice brain washed that they went through when they were young , Mel and Nagamootoo and all the other Jaganites  will carry that to their grave.

Chief
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Originally Posted by Kari:

Chief you have to drop this obsession. Wait until somebody tek the pre-1992 Jagan and use his policies. Then you can get on your soap box. Meantime see what these cats have been up to since 2001 and see if you celebrate it. Like Shaitaan got you not only giving him ?Yankee tickets but got you echoing his mantra. Rass bhai like you got intimidated by Shaitaan like Ray the admin who banned Jalil?

You and I have to take in a game probably in late summer.

 

Shaitaan is crude and can be self destructive  but in this instance he is on the money. This election will open a lot of eyes, Jagan is gone and his legacy is he leave behind a pack of thieves.

The ones who are now shouting his name is doing so because they got kicked and outsmarted out of Freedom House.

They all know that they wanted a position, without calling name, one of them was fighting so hard to become counsel general her in NY.

 

bOTTOM LINE, THE ONES IN fEERDOM hOUSE AND THE ONES WHO GOT KICKED, THEY ARE ALL THE SAME.

 

 

Chief
Originally Posted by simple:

Gilbakka/Mel Carpen - You tried so hard to defend yourself but it its a feeble attempt.  You are better herd than seen bro. Now retire with some dignity.

Hey simple, lemme tell you something: There is no retirement age to stand up against a corrupt race-baiting government.

There is no retirement age to speak out against wrongdoings.

There is no retirement age to fight for justice, fair play and national unity.

Jagan was 74 years old when he became president in 1992. People with your mentality were calling on him to retire when he was 50.

Gandhi was 78 years old when a Hindu fanatic shot him dead. Why? He was still fighting for Hindu-Muslim unity, national unity in India. He didn't retire from struggle.

I am proud to say I'm only 63 years old. Retire? Why, to please you?

 

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Chief:

gILLY IS NOT mEL cARPEN SO sIMPLE YOU ARE SIMPLY FOOLISH.

Say what you want, the man named simple addressed a post to Gilbakka and I responded. You have a problem with that? Your problem. I can call you foolish too, and more, but I won't.

Gilly,

 

Iam saying that Simple is foolish and not you.

Chief
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by Chief:

gILLY IS NOT mEL cARPEN SO sIMPLE YOU ARE SIMPLY FOOLISH.

Say what you want, the man named simple addressed a post to Gilbakka and I responded. You have a problem with that? Your problem. I can call you foolish too, and more, but I won't.

Gilly,

 

Iam saying that Simple is foolish and not you.

I'm sincerely sorry, Chief. I misunderstood.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by simple:

Gilbakka/Mel Carpen - You tried so hard to defend yourself but it its a feeble attempt.  You are better herd than seen bro. Now retire with some dignity.

 

Simple, 

 

Gil is not Mel Carpen.

I wish I were Mel Carpen. All the nice binneys flocking around Mel.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by simple:

Gilbakka/Mel Carpen - You tried so hard to defend yourself but it its a feeble attempt.  You are better herd than seen bro. Now retire with some dignity.

 

Simple, 

 

Gil is not Mel Carpen.

I wish I were Mel Carpen. All the nice binneys flocking around Mel.

 

Too many binneys can cause Jhan Jhat.

FM
Originally Posted by Chief:
Originally Posted by Kari:

Chief you have to drop this obsession. Wait until somebody tek the pre-1992 Jagan and use his policies. Then you can get on your soap box. Meantime see what these cats have been up to since 2001 and see if you celebrate it. Like Shaitaan got you not only giving him ?Yankee tickets but got you echoing his mantra. Rass bhai like you got intimidated by Shaitaan like Ray the admin who banned Jalil?

You and I have to take in a game probably in late summer.

 

Shaitaan is crude and can be self destructive  but in this instance he is on the money. This election will open a lot of eyes, Jagan is gone and his legacy is he leave behind a pack of thieves.

The ones who are now shouting his name is doing so because they got kicked and outsmarted out of Freedom House.

They all know that they wanted a position, without calling name, one of them was fighting so hard to become counsel general her in NY.

 

bOTTOM LINE, THE ONES IN fEERDOM hOUSE AND THE ONES WHO GOT KICKED, THEY ARE ALL THE SAME.

 

 

This Jagan shyte is doing an injustice to the parties that Caribny and Stormy and others support. You also turn a blind eye to the lagacy that Jagan left that occupy the Government. Speak to that and stop making Moses and Mel like the only two things that matter.

Kari
Originally Posted by simple:

Burnham was a communist too.

And a dictator.

 

Cheddie probably had a heart, but that Janet would have murdered him for Communism. She drove a wedge between the two sons of Guyana-Forbes and Cheddie. And their present day adherents.

 

Blasted Americans-they reamed us good. Janet was an American.

 

In Guyana 5 races of people have seen the light.

 

Please Indoes behold your future.

S

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