Prashad posted:

If a Kashmiri tries to hurt or hurts an Indian soldier or civilian then that Kashmiri should be captured, chained and put to work by the Indian state cleaning up and repairing the slums of India permanently. 

And you want berbice as an indian state...no? I do however agree that Kashmir cannot be given independence for historical reasons but more for it being one of India's water bank. India I water starved. 

Prashad posted:

Not an Indian state. Any Guyanese who love and respect East Indian Guyanese culture, and human rights is welcome to join us. 

Take your behind back to India and ask them for the land then start  your recruiting project!  If you ask, everyone in any place on the planet; even the most hostile to human life, will say they love human rights and their local culture.

Stormborn posted:
Prashad posted:

If a Kashmiri tries to hurt or hurts an Indian soldier or civilian then that Kashmiri should be captured, chained and put to work by the Indian state cleaning up and repairing the slums of India permanently. 

And you want berbice as an indian state...no? I do however agree that Kashmir cannot be given independence for historical reasons but more for it being one of India's water bank. India I water starved. 

What?

Cannot be given I dependence because of what?

Where is your head?

Hello this is 2019.

D2, it is the same nonsensencial argument the Colonial power used against Ghandi.

Modi and his Hindu party is doing this out of pure hate.

I got to disagree with the chief here. Those Kashmiris are a bunch of spoilt murderous bullies who are out to earn Saudi Petrodollars by murder. Modi is too soft on them. Prashad would have gotten their murderous behinds in chains building a modern sewage system for the whole of India.

Chief posted:
Stormborn posted:
Prashad posted:

If a Kashmiri tries to hurt or hurts an Indian soldier or civilian then that Kashmiri should be captured, chained and put to work by the Indian state cleaning up and repairing the slums of India permanently. 

And you want berbice as an indian state...no? I do however agree that Kashmir cannot be given independence for historical reasons but more for it being one of India's water bank. India I water starved. 

What?

Cannot be given I dependence because of what?

Where is your head?

Hello this is 2019.

D2, it is the same nonsensencial argument the Colonial power used against Ghandi.

Modi and his Hindu party is doing this out of pure hate.

India and Pakistan exists because of the colonial powers. There were no such states. The argument for India claiming Kashmir is stronger than Pakistan. That the people should settle the question of with whom they would align or be and independent state is to be resolved.

India will not let it happen. It cannot let it happen for the reasons I stated. It is a significant portion of their water bank. Wars will be fought in the future all across the world from Europe (ie Ebro in North Spain vs Water shortage in southern Spain or the Nile ) and  Africa and China ( Tibet). The US has its internal water wars on going also.

Prashad posted:

I got to disagree with the chief here. Those Kashmiris are a bunch of spoilt murderous bullies who are out to earn Saudi Petrodollars by murder. Modi is too soft on them. Prashad would have gotten their murderous behinds in chains building a modern sewage system for the whole of India.

Prashad, I urge you once again to remember the old saying 'it is always so much better to keep your mouth shut and let others think you are a jackass (no insult intended to donkeys) than to open it and remove all doubt'. You insist on pretending that you know everything about everything despite the fact that you are totally incapable of differentiating your ass from your elbow ! Although you have never anywhere even remotely close to the Indian sub-continent, you insist on pretending that you are an expert who knows so much about the geopolitical situation of Indian sub-continent. The truth, however, is that your 'knowledge' is restricted solely to the cleaning of latrines for your lords and masters in the US army. You know absolutely nothing about that part of the world so you ought to use your ears and keep your yap shut as tightly as possible ! Narinder Modi is and has always been a hateful and bigoted excuse for a human being and he has displayed such behavior on scores of occasions in the past! Your 'pea-sized' brain evidently does not permit you to recall the killing of more than 230 men, women and children; all Muslims, on a train in Gujerat while Modi was the chief minister of that state ! In addition to being informed of the potential for violence prior to the arrival of the train, he was urged to request assistance and support from the central government; despite which he deliberately did NOTHING ! As a consequence of his deliberate refusal to heed the advice of his own staff and local police, close to 250 were killed ....simply because they were Muslims ! Your statement "Those Kashmiris are a bunch of spoilt murderous bullies who are out to earn Saudi Petrodollars by murder" is clearly indicative of your deep and dismal ignorance; no doubt due to inhalation of filth from the latrines that you spend your life washing daily for your masters ! I challenge you to provide even a single iota of evidence to support your statement that these people are murderers ! With our own eyes, I and my staff have witnessed the raw  brutality and barbarity that the Indian army has inflicted on these people ! I personally witnessed Indian soldiers kicking and brutalizing old men, old women and children ! UN protocols prohibit me from publishing or sharing such photographs. You can spew as much trash as you like about Modi; the United Nations has copious evidence that classifies him as a bigot and a barbarian so I strongly suggest you keep your bigotry locked up as tightly as you can in your latrine brain ! You are free to scream as loudly as you wish about the people of Kashmir; I am absolutely certain that, if you were faced with what they have to deal with from the Indian army, you will instantly you soil your drawers ! It is sad and depressing that you, a latrine cleaner who have never even 'set foot' on the Indian sub-continent and are incapable of saying two words in Hindi, Urdu or Pashto, have the temerity to call these people spoilt and murderous bullies ! My humble advice to you is that you cease and desist from participating in discussions on subjects of which you are ignorant.

 

Keffer posted:

 With our own eyes, I and my staff have witnessed the raw  brutality and barbarity that the Indian army has inflicted on these people ! I personally witnessed Indian soldiers kicking and brutalizing old men, old women and children ! UN protocols prohibit me from publishing or sharing such photographs.

Send the pictures privately, i will post it , don't think sharing will be a problem.

Keffer is trying to get a white Arab wife. That is why he is trying to be an extremist to impress white Arab ladies. How come no other religious community in Kashmir has problems except these murderous haters. It all comes down to getting the Saudi Petrodollars.

Indian Kashmir is INDIAN, let the PAKI Terrorists including Imran Khan worry about Paki Kashmir. The Indians had enough of the Paki Terrorism so they doing what they have to do.

 IT IS SIMPLE ALL THOSE WHO DO NOT LIKE INDIAN KASHMIR LEAVE, IT IS A SHORT WALK OVER TO PAKI KASHMIR. DO NOT LET THE DOOR HIT YOUR HEADD ON YOUR WAY OUT!!!

Nehru posted:
Prashad posted:

Those Kashmiris keep grenades in their homes to throw at Indian soldiers. They should all be deported from India.

If they do not like being INDAIN then get the #@$% over to Paki Land!!!!!!!!!!

Chief is only concerned because of the Muslims being illtreated. If Muslims were illtreating Hindus, Cheif would have been MIA. I have never seen Chief criticize a Muslim, regardless of his misdeeds.

@ Chief, as Muslims in Guyana celebrate Eid today and some did yesterday worldwide .. Eid is  an occasion to spread peace and show kindness and asked for forgiveness for your sins .. WHY did you choose such occasion to call someone a “ dog”  and start a fight. 

Dave posted:

@ Chief, as Muslims in Guyana celebrate Eid today and some did yesterday worldwide .. Eid is  an occasion to spread peace and show kindness and asked for forgiveness for your sins .. WHY did you choose such occasion to call someone a “ dog”  and start a fight. 

Because the "dog" is not a Muslim.

Nehru posted:
Prashad posted:

Those Kashmiris keep grenades in their homes to throw at Indian soldiers. They should all be deported from India.

If they do not like being INDAIN then get the #@$% over to Paki Land!!!!!!!!!!

As Trump said it!!!😁

I think it is difficult to expect trust or sympathy from people when so in our community is committing heinous crimes. If we are upset with anyone, it should be those in our community that does these heinous acts. Until we can change their behavior, we should stick to prayer and wait for the help from Allah.

Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:

I got to disagree with the chief here. Those Kashmiris are a bunch of spoilt murderous bullies who are out to earn Saudi Petrodollars by murder. Modi is too soft on them. Prashad would have gotten their murderous behinds in chains building a modern sewage system for the whole of India.

Prashad, I urge you once again to remember the old saying 'it is always so much better to keep your mouth shut and let others think you are a jackass (no insult intended to donkeys) than to open it and remove all doubt'. You insist on pretending that you know everything about everything despite the fact that you are totally incapable of differentiating your ass from your elbow ! Although you have never anywhere even remotely close to the Indian sub-continent, you insist on pretending that you are an expert who knows so much about the geopolitical situation of Indian sub-continent. The truth, however, is that your 'knowledge' is restricted solely to the cleaning of latrines for your lords and masters in the US army. You know absolutely nothing about that part of the world so you ought to use your ears and keep your yap shut as tightly as possible ! Narinder Modi is and has always been a hateful and bigoted excuse for a human being and he has displayed such behavior on scores of occasions in the past! Your 'pea-sized' brain evidently does not permit you to recall the killing of more than 230 men, women and children; all Muslims, on a train in Gujerat while Modi was the chief minister of that state ! In addition to being informed of the potential for violence prior to the arrival of the train, he was urged to request assistance and support from the central government; despite which he deliberately did NOTHING ! As a consequence of his deliberate refusal to heed the advice of his own staff and local police, close to 250 were killed ....simply because they were Muslims ! Your statement "Those Kashmiris are a bunch of spoilt murderous bullies who are out to earn Saudi Petrodollars by murder" is clearly indicative of your deep and dismal ignorance; no doubt due to inhalation of filth from the latrines that you spend your life washing daily for your masters ! I challenge you to provide even a single iota of evidence to support your statement that these people are murderers ! With our own eyes, I and my staff have witnessed the raw  brutality and barbarity that the Indian army has inflicted on these people ! I personally witnessed Indian soldiers kicking and brutalizing old men, old women and children ! UN protocols prohibit me from publishing or sharing such photographs. You can spew as much trash as you like about Modi; the United Nations has copious evidence that classifies him as a bigot and a barbarian so I strongly suggest you keep your bigotry locked up as tightly as you can in your latrine brain ! You are free to scream as loudly as you wish about the people of Kashmir; I am absolutely certain that, if you were faced with what they have to deal with from the Indian army, you will instantly you soil your drawers ! It is sad and depressing that you, a latrine cleaner who have never even 'set foot' on the Indian sub-continent and are incapable of saying two words in Hindi, Urdu or Pashto, have the temerity to call these people spoilt and murderous bullies ! My humble advice to you is that you cease and desist from participating in discussions on subjects of which you are ignorant.

 

Keffer you really lay it on Prashad.

Dave posted:

@ Chief, as Muslims in Guyana celebrate Eid today and some did yesterday worldwide .. Eid is  an occasion to spread peace and show kindness and asked for forgiveness for your sins .. WHY did you choose such occasion to call someone a “ dog”  and start a fight. 

I chose today because my brother sand sisters in Kashmir and India cannot observe the day day as others around the WORLD.

I am on record to condemning wrong across  the board.

What Modi is doing here is wrong.

 

ksazma posted:

I think it is difficult to expect trust or sympathy from people when so in our community is committing heinous crimes. If we are upset with anyone, it should be those in our community that does these heinous acts. Until we can change their behavior, we should stick to prayer and wait for the help from Allah.

I wonder how you will react if  you see that your children are denied their basic rights, if they are denied food and cannot go the shops.

 

I don't trust that Modi. I think he is planning to hand over the Muslim section of Indian Kashmir to Pakistan. He probably said let those Pakistanis deal with the situation. Then he is going to open up Hindu and Buddhist Kashmir to the rest of India there by creating a new front line with Pakistan and China.

Chief posted:
Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:

I got to disagree with the chief here. Those Kashmiris are a bunch of spoilt murderous bullies who are out to earn Saudi Petrodollars by murder. Modi is too soft on them. Prashad would have gotten their murderous behinds in chains building a modern sewage system for the whole of India.

Prashad, I urge you once again to remember the old saying 'it is always so much better to keep your mouth shut and let others think you are a jackass (no insult intended to donkeys) than to open it and remove all doubt'. You insist on pretending that you know everything about everything despite the fact that you are totally incapable of differentiating your ass from your elbow ! Although you have never anywhere even remotely close to the Indian sub-continent, you insist on pretending that you are an expert who knows so much about the geopolitical situation of Indian sub-continent. The truth, however, is that your 'knowledge' is restricted solely to the cleaning of latrines for your lords and masters in the US army. You know absolutely nothing about that part of the world so you ought to use your ears and keep your yap shut as tightly as possible ! Narinder Modi is and has always been a hateful and bigoted excuse for a human being and he has displayed such behavior on scores of occasions in the past! Your 'pea-sized' brain evidently does not permit you to recall the killing of more than 230 men, women and children; all Muslims, on a train in Gujerat while Modi was the chief minister of that state ! In addition to being informed of the potential for violence prior to the arrival of the train, he was urged to request assistance and support from the central government; despite which he deliberately did NOTHING ! As a consequence of his deliberate refusal to heed the advice of his own staff and local police, close to 250 were killed ....simply because they were Muslims ! Your statement "Those Kashmiris are a bunch of spoilt murderous bullies who are out to earn Saudi Petrodollars by murder" is clearly indicative of your deep and dismal ignorance; no doubt due to inhalation of filth from the latrines that you spend your life washing daily for your masters ! I challenge you to provide even a single iota of evidence to support your statement that these people are murderers ! With our own eyes, I and my staff have witnessed the raw  brutality and barbarity that the Indian army has inflicted on these people ! I personally witnessed Indian soldiers kicking and brutalizing old men, old women and children ! UN protocols prohibit me from publishing or sharing such photographs. You can spew as much trash as you like about Modi; the United Nations has copious evidence that classifies him as a bigot and a barbarian so I strongly suggest you keep your bigotry locked up as tightly as you can in your latrine brain ! You are free to scream as loudly as you wish about the people of Kashmir; I am absolutely certain that, if you were faced with what they have to deal with from the Indian army, you will instantly you soil your drawers ! It is sad and depressing that you, a latrine cleaner who have never even 'set foot' on the Indian sub-continent and are incapable of saying two words in Hindi, Urdu or Pashto, have the temerity to call these people spoilt and murderous bullies ! My humble advice to you is that you cease and desist from participating in discussions on subjects of which you are ignorant.

 

Keffer you really lay it on Prashad.

Wait until that white Arab woman get sick and tired of hearing Keffer play his Mukesh and Rafiq records the whole day. She is going to call the police and say that keffer try to punch her in the eye and they will pick up his behind and throw him in Jail. I hope those Kashmiris break him out then.

 

Prashad posted:

Those Kashmiris keep grenades in their homes to throw at Indian soldiers. They should all be deported from India.

You ignorant dumb-ass latrine cleaner ! What evidence do you have to support your statement ? You have never been in India or anywhere even remotely close to India but suddenly, you now profess to know everything about what the situation is in India !  Take it from me; Modi is nothing but a bigoted moron !!

Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:

Those Kashmiris keep grenades in their homes to throw at Indian soldiers. They should all be deported from India.

You ignorant dumb-ass latrine cleaner ! What evidence do you have to support your statement ? You have never been in India or anywhere even remotely close to India but suddenly, you now profess to know everything about what the situation is in India !  Take it from me; Modi is nothing but a bigoted moron !!

Why are you cussing and fussing and proclaiming you are the defacto authority on the region because you were there? We have not been to mars but we know a hell of a lot about its size, its climate, its composition etc One simply have to go out on the internet or on Amazon and buy books from those who actually spent a life studying these places. I have never visited these places but is interested in them. I am not interested in the cussing. 

Dave posted:
Ray posted:

Modi is a dog

Isn’t it offensive calling someone a dog as per  Islam and their is sever consequences. 

On the other hand you will suspend posters for posting animals pictures. 

Speaking of hypocrisy. 

 

get over it

Hari Singh, the hereditary leader of the region, wanted to remain independent. Pakistan invaded. He fled to India and hand over the state to India. India fought back to defend its new claims. Pakistan kept a portion after a cease fire.

They invaded again and started an ethnic cleansing. India invaded and almost destroyed Pakistan and retained the property. China has claims like any greedy neighbor wanting the place for its water. It is the reason the invaded and still hold Tibet. Maybe they should have gone with India. 

The region is a mess. India cannot give up the area. Its survival depends on holding on to it hence their hard line stance.  With it falling into the hands of Pakistan, over a 100 millions down stream will lose their water supply as it is diverted to Pakistan. India will never let Kashmir go. 

Ray posted:
Dave posted:
Ray posted:

Modi is a dog

Isn’t it offensive calling someone a dog as per  Islam and their is sever consequences. 

On the other hand you will suspend posters for posting animals pictures. 

Speaking of hypocrisy. 

 

get over it

Get over what?? 

You haven’t answered my question why it’s ok to called a man a “ dog” but it’s not ok to post a monkey picture which wasn’t labeled against anyone. 

Stormborn posted:

Hari Singh, the hereditary leader of the region, wanted to remain independent. Pakistan invaded. He fled to India and hand over the state to India. India fought back to defend its new claims. Pakistan kept a portion after a cease fire.

They invaded again and started an ethnic cleansing. India invaded and almost destroyed Pakistan and retained the property. China has claims like any greedy neighbor wanting the place for its water. It is the reason the invaded and still hold Tibet. Maybe they should have gone with India. 

The region is a mess. India cannot give up the area. Its survival depends on holding on to it hence their hard line stance.  With it falling into the hands of Pakistan, over a 100 millions down stream will lose their water supply as it is diverted to Pakistan. India will never let Kashmir go. 

Stormborn forgot Taiwan's claim to Kashmir. Communist China has an agreement with Pakistan to get a piece of Indian Kashmir after it is giving back to Pakistan. The Pakis put some serious blows on Kashmiris living in Pakistan. There are no reporters there in Pakistan kashmir to record the lashes so everyone thinks it is all Rosie there

 

Keffer is no longer allowed in Pakistan Kashmir. So he doesn't know what is going on there.

 

Jammu & Kashmir has much bigger population than Azad Kashmir.  The economy of J&K is $25 billion compared to $4 billion in Azad.  The Indian gov't. is building major infra-structure in J & K.  From tunnels to bridges to highways through the Himalayas. India is totally crazy if they give up Kashmir. Islamists have made it clear that after Kashmir they're going after India. Pakistan does not allow an independent state in Azad. Why would Kashmiris believe that they will allow them a free and independent country if India secedes?

Chief posted:
Stormborn posted:
Prashad posted:

If a Kashmiri tries to hurt or hurts an Indian soldier or civilian then that Kashmiri should be captured, chained and put to work by the Indian state cleaning up and repairing the slums of India permanently. 

And you want berbice as an indian state...no? I do however agree that Kashmir cannot be given independence for historical reasons but more for it being one of India's water bank. India I water starved. 

What?

Cannot be given I dependence because of what?

Where is your head?

Hello this is 2019.

D2, it is the same nonsensencial argument the Colonial power used against Ghandi.

Modi and his Hindu party is doing this out of pure hate.

No. They cannot be given independence. India needs to resettle couple million Hindus into the region!

Nehru posted:

The Paki Govt has their kashmir citizens like slave!! No wonder those in Indian Kashmir do not want to cross over. They love the Freedom and Welfare of the Indian govt.

Suh yuh seying dem Paki ppl are like dogs, dey get kicked, by dey own mussalman. 

West Pakistan needed India to free dem from East Pakistan. These ppl get hard heads, they never will learn. Dey should read more books.  

The Jammu Hindu Women Associations are against other Indian Hindu men from other parts of India moving to Jammu. They are afraid that their white skin girls are going to get married out by wealthy brown skin Hindu men from other parts of India.

Nehru posted:

The Paki Govt has their kashmir citizens like slave!! No wonder those in Indian Kashmir do not want to cross over. They love the Freedom and Welfare of the Indian govt.

Modi was the man who overseen genocide in Gujerat.  There is no denying the facts.  

 

 

Abu Jihad posted:
Nehru posted:

The Paki Govt has their kashmir citizens like slave!! No wonder those in Indian Kashmir do not want to cross over. They love the Freedom and Welfare of the Indian govt.

Modi was the man who overseen genocide in Gujerat.  There is no denying the facts.  

 

 

I suppose when the muslim invaders came to India they were kind and benevolent. Shit, those bastards burn libraries that the fires last for months, impose taxes on the ppl juss for not being muslims, dismantle their temples, carted off their golden idols, forbade the use of salt unless they paid the taxes alloted to hindus. Not to mention the beheadings, boiling in oil and other atrocities associated with a barbaric race of ppl.

Modi remembers. 

Muslims call him a dog, he is biting alyuh azz good and proper. May allah bless him for dealing wid a ppl who tek his name into bloodshed.    

seignet posted:
Abu Jihad posted:
Nehru posted:

The Paki Govt has their kashmir citizens like slave!! No wonder those in Indian Kashmir do not want to cross over. They love the Freedom and Welfare of the Indian govt.

Modi was the man who overseen genocide in Gujerat.  There is no denying the facts.  

 

 

I suppose when the muslim invaders came to India they were kind and benevolent. Shit, those bastards burn libraries that the fires last for months, impose taxes on the ppl juss for not being muslims, dismantle their temples, carted off their golden idols, forbade the use of salt unless they paid the taxes alloted to hindus. Not to mention the beheadings, boiling in oil and other atrocities associated with a barbaric race of ppl.

Modi remembers. 

Muslims call him a dog, he is biting alyuh azz good and proper. May allah bless him for dealing wid a ppl who tek his name into bloodshed.    


As usual you dont know the difference between Mongol and Mohgul.

If they committed genocide, they should also be held accountable.  

Genocide is genocide and it should not be sugar coated 

 

Prashad posted:

Mongol and Mohgul is the same thing. Both have origins in Mongolia. Mohguls came from Central Asia But they are of Mongolian origin.

And if you were intelligent you will understand the beauty of Islam and how it conquered the worse entities known to mankind.

the emergence of the moguls proves the opposite of what you jackasses are saying.

 

 

seignet posted:
Chief posted:

This is so sad what they are doing to the people of Kashmir.

Dem dogs goan let loose on yuh brotherhood. Provoke dem.

I got caught up I a few Shiv Senna rallies in Bombay.  If you think Trump's disciples bad, meet Dem Bannaz!

Just a question?? Who invented Suicide Bombing? and is it a success if the person survives.

Why grown people travel from around the world would walk in circle throwing stones at the Kabba.?? Pelting stones at a ROCK. smff??

kp posted:

Just a question?? Who invented Suicide Bombing? and is it a success if the person survives.

Why grown people travel from around the world would walk in circle throwing stones at the Kabba.?? Pelting stones at a ROCK. smff??

Banna, people's methods of worship should not be criticize as long as no one is hurt.  One can ask the same question of some rituals in Hinduism!

That's a symbolic stoning, like Hindus busting up coconuts!

kp posted:

Just a question?? Who invented Suicide Bombing? and is it a success if the person survives.

Why grown people travel from around the world would walk in circle throwing stones at the Kabba.?? Pelting stones at a ROCK. smff??

I think modern day suicide bombing began with the new Jewish settlers in Palestine. I believe the Israelis were the first to hijack a plane also. But I could be wrong.

There is no successful story to any suicide bombing. If the intended bomber manages to execute his/her mission, their intended targets loses a hell of a lot. If the intended bomber fails to execute his/her mission, another one will certainly try to do a better job. Success and only come about if there is meaningful dialogue toward an amicable resolution.

The rituals performed at hajj are no different from rituals performed by people of other religions. They can look strange to the one not familiar with them but make the world of sense to those familiar with their objectives. Everyone who has performed hajj returns to their homes with a completely different perspective of things before they made the visit. Malcolm X wrote about his transformation after performing hajj. The circling of the Kaaba could be akin to going around the mara on one's wedding day although the meanings and significances are different. No one throws stones at the Kaaba. There is a structure close to the Kaaba where devotees re-enact the act of the prophet Ibrahim when he was tempted three times by the devil to abandon his mission to sacrifice his only son at the time, Ismail. Yes Siggy, it was Ismail. The birth of Isaac was a blessing from God to Ibrahim because Ibrahim demonstrated his steadfast faith in God when he was willing to kill his only son Ismail for the love of God. And that was only a vision, not even a command or demand.

Lots of rituals that people of each faith do always seem stranger to the unfamiliar. None of us really know which is valid or even if any is valid. What we do know is that there is no justification for anyone killing or abusing another. Suicide bombing is wrong. Government abuse as well as abuse from anyone else of authority is equally wrong. Who knows. Maybe we will all get it right after Christ returns and the lamb is able to safely lie with the lion. 

ksazma posted:
kp posted:

Just a question?? Who invented Suicide Bombing? and is it a success if the person survives.

Why grown people travel from around the world would walk in circle throwing stones at the Kabba.?? Pelting stones at a ROCK. smff??

I think modern day suicide bombing began with the new Jewish settlers in Palestine. I believe the Israelis were the first to hijack a plane also. But I could be wrong.

There is no successful story to any suicide bombing. If the intended bomber manages to execute his/her mission, their intended targets loses a hell of a lot. If the intended bomber fails to execute his/her mission, another one will certainly try to do a better job. Success and only come about if there is meaningful dialogue toward an amicable resolution.

The rituals performed at hajj are no different from rituals performed by people of other religions. They can look strange to the one not familiar with them but make the world of sense to those familiar with their objectives. Everyone who has performed hajj returns to their homes with a completely different perspective of things before they made the visit. Malcolm X wrote about his transformation after performing hajj. The circling of the Kaaba could be akin to going around the mara on one's wedding day although the meanings and significances are different. No one throws stones at the Kaaba. There is a structure close to the Kaaba where devotees re-enact the act of the prophet Ibrahim when he was tempted three times by the devil to abandon his mission to sacrifice his only son at the time, Ismail. Yes Siggy, it was Ismail. The birth of Isaac was a blessing from God to Ibrahim because Ibrahim demonstrated his steadfast faith in God when he was willing to kill his only son Ismail for the love of God. And that was only a vision, not even a command or demand.

Lots of rituals that people of each faith do always seem stranger to the unfamiliar. None of us really know which is valid or even if any is valid. What we do know is that there is no justification for anyone killing or abusing another. Suicide bombing is wrong. Government abuse as well as abuse from anyone else of authority is equally wrong. Who knows. Maybe we will all get it right after Christ returns and the lamb is able to safely lie with the lion. 

I don’t know everything, that’s why I ask. I am not a religious person. Thanks  for your explanation. 

Abu Jihad posted:
Prashad posted:

Mongol and Mohgul is the same thing. Both have origins in Mongolia. Mohguls came from Central Asia But they are of Mongolian origin.

And if you were intelligent you will understand the beauty of Islam and how it conquered the worse entities known to mankind.

the emergence of the moguls proves the opposite of what you jackasses are saying.

 

 

Neither the Mongols or Mohguls forced Islam to be the dominant religion in Mongolia their common homeland of origin.  Even today Islam is a minority religion in Mongolia. Yet in the lands that the Mongols and Mohguls conquered they championed Islam to be a dominant religion in these lands.  Prashad does not understand why. Was the religion used a mechanism to ensure law and order together with helping the economic/social/political functioning of a conquered society and its  people?

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Aren't the Nehru's from Kashmir? 

They are Kashmiri Pandits.  That is the name for Kashmiri Hindus.  Most of the Kashmiri Pandits were forced to leave Kashmir for Jammu because of religious riots and killing of Kashmiri Pandits by religious extremists in Kashmir. Jammu has a majority of Hindus.  I know a Jammu Hindu woman. She has blond hair, blue eyes and white skin.  You will never know that she is an East Indian person by looking at her.

Prashad posted:

Prashad always asking person where they from.

Hey Prash. Maybe you are that old Indian man who used to live in the same apartment building where I lived many moons ago. Every freaking day when he sees me he would ask ‘where you from?’. Like he memory really bad. 😀

Prashad posted:
Chief posted:
Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:

I got to disagree with the chief here. Those Kashmiris are a bunch of spoilt murderous bullies who are out to earn Saudi Petrodollars by murder. Modi is too soft on them. Prashad would have gotten their murderous behinds in chains building a modern sewage system for the whole of India.

Prashad, I urge you once again to remember the old saying 'it is always so much better to keep your mouth shut and let others think you are a jackass (no insult intended to donkeys) than to open it and remove all doubt'. You insist on pretending that you know everything about everything despite the fact that you are totally incapable of differentiating your ass from your elbow ! Although you have never anywhere even remotely close to the Indian sub-continent, you insist on pretending that you are an expert who knows so much about the geopolitical situation of Indian sub-continent. The truth, however, is that your 'knowledge' is restricted solely to the cleaning of latrines for your lords and masters in the US army. You know absolutely nothing about that part of the world so you ought to use your ears and keep your yap shut as tightly as possible ! Narinder Modi is and has always been a hateful and bigoted excuse for a human being and he has displayed such behavior on scores of occasions in the past! Your 'pea-sized' brain evidently does not permit you to recall the killing of more than 230 men, women and children; all Muslims, on a train in Gujerat while Modi was the chief minister of that state ! In addition to being informed of the potential for violence prior to the arrival of the train, he was urged to request assistance and support from the central government; despite which he deliberately did NOTHING ! As a consequence of his deliberate refusal to heed the advice of his own staff and local police, close to 250 were killed ....simply because they were Muslims ! Your statement "Those Kashmiris are a bunch of spoilt murderous bullies who are out to earn Saudi Petrodollars by murder" is clearly indicative of your deep and dismal ignorance; no doubt due to inhalation of filth from the latrines that you spend your life washing daily for your masters ! I challenge you to provide even a single iota of evidence to support your statement that these people are murderers ! With our own eyes, I and my staff have witnessed the raw  brutality and barbarity that the Indian army has inflicted on these people ! I personally witnessed Indian soldiers kicking and brutalizing old men, old women and children ! UN protocols prohibit me from publishing or sharing such photographs. You can spew as much trash as you like about Modi; the United Nations has copious evidence that classifies him as a bigot and a barbarian so I strongly suggest you keep your bigotry locked up as tightly as you can in your latrine brain ! You are free to scream as loudly as you wish about the people of Kashmir; I am absolutely certain that, if you were faced with what they have to deal with from the Indian army, you will instantly you soil your drawers ! It is sad and depressing that you, a latrine cleaner who have never even 'set foot' on the Indian sub-continent and are incapable of saying two words in Hindi, Urdu or Pashto, have the temerity to call these people spoilt and murderous bullies ! My humble advice to you is that you cease and desist from participating in discussions on subjects of which you are ignorant.

 

Keffer you really lay it on Prashad.

Wait until that white Arab woman get sick and tired of hearing Keffer play his Mukesh and Rafiq records the whole day. She is going to call the police and say that keffer try to punch her in the eye and they will pick up his behind and throw him in Jail. I hope those Kashmiris break him out then.

 

Jackass, aren't you tired with your meaningless trash of 'white Arab', 'brown Arab', red Arab, etc. ? With every word and every syllable that you post, you expose you dismal ignorance and abject stupidity to the world ! You were destined to be a latrine cleaner so, once again, I suggest you focus on that and keep your ignorance/stupidity to yourself ! 

Prashad posted:
Stormborn posted:

Hari Singh, the hereditary leader of the region, wanted to remain independent. Pakistan invaded. He fled to India and hand over the state to India. India fought back to defend its new claims. Pakistan kept a portion after a cease fire.

They invaded again and started an ethnic cleansing. India invaded and almost destroyed Pakistan and retained the property. China has claims like any greedy neighbor wanting the place for its water. It is the reason the invaded and still hold Tibet. Maybe they should have gone with India. 

The region is a mess. India cannot give up the area. Its survival depends on holding on to it hence their hard line stance.  With it falling into the hands of Pakistan, over a 100 millions down stream will lose their water supply as it is diverted to Pakistan. India will never let Kashmir go. 

Stormborn forgot Taiwan's claim to Kashmir. Communist China has an agreement with Pakistan to get a piece of Indian Kashmir after it is giving back to Pakistan. The Pakis put some serious blows on Kashmiris living in Pakistan. There are no reporters there in Pakistan kashmir to record the lashes so everyone thinks it is all Rosie there

 

Keffer is no longer allowed in Pakistan Kashmir. So he doesn't know what is going on there.

 

For the Nth time, you ignorant, thick-skulled latrine-cleaner, stop posting rubbish ! This discussion has nothing whatsoever to do with your fantasies or filth-inhalation ! All of my work-related travel is with a UN passport and I have never been denied entry into any country. You, on the other hand, and despite the fact that your work and destiny are in the latrines of your masters, have nowhere to go so I suggest you stop pretending that you are conversant with the daily affairs and developments in other countries !

Keffer posted:
Prashad posted:
Stormborn posted:

Hari Singh, the hereditary leader of the region, wanted to remain independent. Pakistan invaded. He fled to India and hand over the state to India. India fought back to defend its new claims. Pakistan kept a portion after a cease fire.

They invaded again and started an ethnic cleansing. India invaded and almost destroyed Pakistan and retained the property. China has claims like any greedy neighbor wanting the place for its water. It is the reason the invaded and still hold Tibet. Maybe they should have gone with India. 

The region is a mess. India cannot give up the area. Its survival depends on holding on to it hence their hard line stance.  With it falling into the hands of Pakistan, over a 100 millions down stream will lose their water supply as it is diverted to Pakistan. India will never let Kashmir go. 

Stormborn forgot Taiwan's claim to Kashmir. Communist China has an agreement with Pakistan to get a piece of Indian Kashmir after it is giving back to Pakistan. The Pakis put some serious blows on Kashmiris living in Pakistan. There are no reporters there in Pakistan kashmir to record the lashes so everyone thinks it is all Rosie there

 

Keffer is no longer allowed in Pakistan Kashmir. So he doesn't know what is going on there.

 

For the Nth time, you ignorant, thick-skulled latrine-cleaner, stop posting rubbish ! This discussion has nothing whatsoever to do with your fantasies or filth-inhalation ! All of my work-related travel is with a UN passport and I have never been denied entry into any country. You, on the other hand, and despite the fact that your work and destiny are in the latrines of your masters, have nowhere to go so I suggest you stop pretending that you are conversant with the daily affairs and developments in other countries !

They should take that passport back if it permits the arrogance of intellectual acumen to be so contemptuous of others even if they are wrong. The region is problematic and both sides have committed horrible atrocities. Pakistan perpetuated a genocidal ethnic cleansing of the area until India put a stop to it. India believes it was awarded the lands and given that the period how post colonial states states became consolidated they have a claim. Pakistan exists on similar claim. The problem here is for the two sides to work it out to their mutual convenience. China sits like a Grinch ready to eat their Christmas.

kp posted:

Just a question?? Who invented Suicide Bombing? and is it a success if the person survives.

Why grown people travel from around the world would walk in circle throwing stones at the Kabba.?? Pelting stones at a ROCK. smff??

The Tamil Tigers “perfected” the use of suicide bombers, invented the suicide belt, and pioneered the use of women in suicide attacks, according to the FBI, which listed the group as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.

“The LTTE are widely credited with mainstreaming the use of the suicide vest as a force multiplier. Not only did it allow for precise targeting, but also instilled an increased sense of horror and terror among the wider population that anyone—man or woman—might be the next bomber,” Joshua Roose, senior research fellow at the Institute for Religion, Politics and Society at the Australian Catholic University, told TIME.

I could be just as ignorant like you and ask why do Hindus do all the stuff they do during religious ceremonies (and they do plenty)...but I Know each religion has their own way of worshiping

Ray posted:
kp posted:

Just a question?? Who invented Suicide Bombing? and is it a success if the person survives.

Why grown people travel from around the world would walk in circle throwing stones at the Kabba.?? Pelting stones at a ROCK. smff??

The Tamil Tigers “perfected” the use of suicide bombers, invented the suicide belt, and pioneered the use of women in suicide attacks, according to the FBI, which listed the group as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.

“The LTTE are widely credited with mainstreaming the use of the suicide vest as a force multiplier. Not only did it allow for precise targeting, but also instilled an increased sense of horror and terror among the wider population that anyone—man or woman—might be the next bomber,” Joshua Roose, senior research fellow at the Institute for Religion, Politics and Society at the Australian Catholic University, told TIME.

I could be just as ignorant like you and ask why do Hindus do all the stuff they do during religious ceremonies (and they do plenty)...but I Know each religion has their own way of worshiping

I did not want to correct Kaz's mistake. I remember Bushmaster used to call himself a Tamil Tiger and insist he was not averse to dying for or like them. That fellow was truly a personality. I hope he is still alive and kicking in his mid 80's. After all we have Lionel still kicking after a few heart attacks.

Stormborn posted:
Ray posted:
kp posted:

Just a question?? Who invented Suicide Bombing? and is it a success if the person survives.

Why grown people travel from around the world would walk in circle throwing stones at the Kabba.?? Pelting stones at a ROCK. smff??

The Tamil Tigers “perfected” the use of suicide bombers, invented the suicide belt, and pioneered the use of women in suicide attacks, according to the FBI, which listed the group as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.

“The LTTE are widely credited with mainstreaming the use of the suicide vest as a force multiplier. Not only did it allow for precise targeting, but also instilled an increased sense of horror and terror among the wider population that anyone—man or woman—might be the next bomber,” Joshua Roose, senior research fellow at the Institute for Religion, Politics and Society at the Australian Catholic University, told TIME.

I could be just as ignorant like you and ask why do Hindus do all the stuff they do during religious ceremonies (and they do plenty)...but I Know each religion has their own way of worshiping

I did not want to correct Kaz's mistake. I remember Bushmaster used to call himself a Tamil Tiger and insist he was not averse to dying for or like them. That fellow was truly a personality. I hope he is still alive and kicking in his mid 80's. After all we have Lionel still kicking after a few heart attacks.

Don’t forget bro. I am not averse to being corrected. 😀

Ray posted:
kp posted:

Just a question?? Who invented Suicide Bombing? and is it a success if the person survives.

Why grown people travel from around the world would walk in circle throwing stones at the Kabba.?? Pelting stones at a ROCK. smff??

The Tamil Tigers “perfected” the use of suicide bombers, invented the suicide belt, and pioneered the use of women in suicide attacks, according to the FBI, which listed the group as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.

“The LTTE are widely credited with mainstreaming the use of the suicide vest as a force multiplier. Not only did it allow for precise targeting, but also instilled an increased sense of horror and terror among the wider population that anyone—man or woman—might be the next bomber,” Joshua Roose, senior research fellow at the Institute for Religion, Politics and Society at the Australian Catholic University, told TIME.

I could be just as ignorant like you and ask why do Hindus do all the stuff they do during religious ceremonies (and they do plenty)...but I Know each religion has their own way of worshiping

If I am a Hindu, I would take offence to your statement. But I choose to allow you to be ignorant.  

 A man from Linepath started a divisive  topic, because he hates Hindus, then comes the Tribal behaviour of the Muslim posters taking a religious side.

Japanese Kamikaze pilots

Despite what we may assume from the current, highly reported tactics and rationale of suicide bombers, they were not always exclusively the preserve of terrorist organisations.

Some of the first suicide bombings of the twentieth century involved the Japanese military, fighting as they were in the Second World War. Faced with the overwhelming naval aerial superiority of the Allied forces in the Pacific, they desperately resorted to the use of the Tokkotai. This ‘special attack unit’, popularly known as Kamikaze or ‘divine wind’, consisted of planes and boats loaded with bombs. The pilots were instructed to crash into naval targets. Their ranks were plucked from volunteers from conscripts or universities.

The militaristic Japanese culture at the time forbade any form of surrender, and the leap from this sense of death with honour, to volunteering as a human bomb was not such a large one.

The Tokkotai were first deployed at the Battle of Leyte Gulf in October 1944. A plane struck the St Lo aircraft carrier, triggering a fire which eventually sunk the ship. Their use peaked at the Battle of Okinawa where 30 Allied ships were sunk or put out of action. In total around 3,860 suicide attacks were carried out by the Japanese before the end of the war.

Their impact in addressing the balance of naval power in the Pacific, however, should not be over-estimated. It was expensive and often the planes lacked the penetrative force to sink a ship – only around 50 ships were sunk by Tokkotai.

But the attacks did have a real and lasting psychological impact on the Allied sailors. Admiral Halsey, commander of the US Third Fleet declared that it was ‘the only weapon I feared in war’. The attacks also sent a message of fanaticism and intimidation to Japan’s enemies.

Unlike modern suicide bombings, the Tokkotai attacks were directed exclusively at military targets. That said, the themes in the Japanese tactics of a military imbalance, indoctrination, and psychological intimidation can be seen years later – and are today seen in suicide bombings by non-state groups.

It is hard, then, not to see the dark foreshadows of the September 11th 2001 attacks in the tactics of the Tokkotai.

kp posted:
Ray posted:
kp posted:

Just a question?? Who invented Suicide Bombing? and is it a success if the person survives.

Why grown people travel from around the world would walk in circle throwing stones at the Kabba.?? Pelting stones at a ROCK. smff??

The Tamil Tigers “perfected” the use of suicide bombers, invented the suicide belt, and pioneered the use of women in suicide attacks, according to the FBI, which listed the group as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.

“The LTTE are widely credited with mainstreaming the use of the suicide vest as a force multiplier. Not only did it allow for precise targeting, but also instilled an increased sense of horror and terror among the wider population that anyone—man or woman—might be the next bomber,” Joshua Roose, senior research fellow at the Institute for Religion, Politics and Society at the Australian Catholic University, told TIME.

I could be just as ignorant like you and ask why do Hindus do all the stuff they do during religious ceremonies (and they do plenty)...but I Know each religion has their own way of worshiping

If I am a Hindu, I would take offence to your statement. But I choose to allow you to be ignorant.  

 A man from Linepath started a divisive  topic, because he hates Hindus, then comes the Tribal behaviour of the Muslim posters taking a religious side.

you don't have to be hindu or muslim or christian to take offence at stupid ignorant statements

Like I said, I know each religion has their unique way of worshiping, and I would not denigrate ones religion because of the way they worship

Ray posted:
kp posted:
Ray posted:
kp posted:

Just a question?? Who invented Suicide Bombing? and is it a success if the person survives.

Why grown people travel from around the world would walk in circle throwing stones at the Kabba.?? Pelting stones at a ROCK. smff??

The Tamil Tigers “perfected” the use of suicide bombers, invented the suicide belt, and pioneered the use of women in suicide attacks, according to the FBI, which listed the group as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.

“The LTTE are widely credited with mainstreaming the use of the suicide vest as a force multiplier. Not only did it allow for precise targeting, but also instilled an increased sense of horror and terror among the wider population that anyone—man or woman—might be the next bomber,” Joshua Roose, senior research fellow at the Institute for Religion, Politics and Society at the Australian Catholic University, told TIME.

I could be just as ignorant like you and ask why do Hindus do all the stuff they do during religious ceremonies (and they do plenty)...but I Know each religion has their own way of worshiping

If I am a Hindu, I would take offence to your statement. But I choose to allow you to be ignorant.  

 A man from Linepath started a divisive  topic, because he hates Hindus, then comes the Tribal behaviour of the Muslim posters taking a religious side.

you don't have to be hindu or muslim or christian to take offence at stupid ignorant statements

Like I said, I know each religion has their unique way of worshiping, and I would not denigrate ones religion because of the way they worship

First of all, I did not denigrate ones religion. As I stated, I had and asked a question, Kas answered it for me, finished. You may be religious, but I am not.

Ray posted:

Chief did not call Modi a dog because he hates Hindus...he called him a dog because of his policy against Kashmir

People insult Trump a lot, does it mean that they hate Christians?

How come Chief do not call out Pakis on their terrorist behavior, undemocratic Rule, support for terrorists, condoning and harboring terrorists??????????

Nehru posted:
Ray posted:

Chief did not call Modi a dog because he hates Hindus...he called him a dog because of his policy against Kashmir

People insult Trump a lot, does it mean that they hate Christians?

How come Chief do not call out Pakis on their terrorist behavior, undemocratic Rule, support for terrorists, condoning and harboring terrorists??????????

How come you don't call out Modi?

Nehru posted:

I did many times when it was called for. I even said i do NOT believe he is the best person to lead India but respect the voters. Al Yuh seem to be like the ISI condoning wrongdoing and EVIL then run to Mecca and act all pure!!!

allyuh who condone wrongdoing? 

Where do you see anyone condoning wrongdoing, and what does that have to do with going to Mecca?

Plenty people of all faiths do wrongdoing, then go pray at Mandirs, Churches etc

Who you to judge wrong from right?

i AM NOT JUDGING BUT GOING TO mECCA OR iSRAEL DOES NOT GIVE YOU HUMANITY, morality or decency. That is something you have to cultivate.  I know right from wrong and good from evil. I am NOT swayed by religion, skin color or race.  MEH NEIGHBA SEH FACTS ARE FACTS!! oNE CANNOT COME AND PRETEND TO BE looking out for humanity selectively. If you were smart you would have figure out that some are slave to religion, being lead into darkness by their religious leaders or are just plain EVIL. Go figure!!

Dave posted:
Ray posted:
Dave posted:
Ray posted:

Modi is a dog

Isn’t it offensive calling someone a dog as per  Islam and their is sever consequences. 

On the other hand you will suspend posters for posting animals pictures. 

Speaking of hypocrisy. 

 

get over it

Get over what?? 

You haven’t answered my question why it’s ok to called a man a “ dog” but it’s not ok to post a monkey picture which wasn’t labeled against anyone. 

 

Monkey is a God for some Hindus, in India they worship them.

How can you offend the Hindus?

kp posted:

When it comes to religion, all them fullaman on GNI deh pun one side even if it.s all lies. That 's why Trump hate them rass, ayuh, better watch the new immigration laws taking effect in October. ICE a watch you.

GNI  Chamars  are united in their hate for Muslims and Blacks.

Muslims do not hate we call you Chammars out for your bigotry.

Nehru posted:
Ray posted:

Chief did not call Modi a dog because he hates Hindus...he called him a dog because of his policy against Kashmir

People insult Trump a lot, does it mean that they hate Christians?

How come Chief do not call out Pakis on their terrorist behavior, undemocratic Rule, support for terrorists, condoning and harboring terrorists??????????

I do Nehru.

America is aware of Pakistan's involvement of terrorism and still continued to give them billion of dollars after 9.11 

 

I just got this from the Preface of  a book I begun to read, " Kashmir in Conflict" by Virginia Schofield (decide to update my understanding)

What distinguishes the Kashmir conflict from other regional disputes is that, in order to effect the ceasefire, in 1948 the Indian government made a formal complaint to the Security Council of the United Nations against Pakistan’s ‘aggression’. The complaint against Pakistan in an international forum turned a dispute between two countries into an issue which demanded international attention. The recommendations of the United Nations, formulated into three resolutions passed in  1948 and 1949, also formalised the presence of a third party into the debate: the wishes of the people who lived in the land over which India and Pakistan were fighting. All three resolutions recommended that India and Pakistan should proceed with holding a plebiscite, as already agreed by the Governments of India and Pakistan, so that the people themselves could decide their future. 


That the plebiscite was never held should perhaps be no surprise. Firstly as a prerequisite, Pakistan was required to withdraw its forces from the territory which they had occupied. Secondly, it was clear that the Indian government only agreed to hold a plebiscite at a time when it was confident that the majority would confirm union with India. In the event, Pakistan’s reluctance to vacate the territory it had occupied gave India the excuse to renege on its commitment to hold a plebiscite; the de facto divison of the state which India
and Pakistan had achieved militarily was therefore neither reversed nor confirmed. But although successive Indian governments may have regretted the fact that an international body was ever involved in discussing the future of the state of Jammu and Kashmir, the UN resolutions remain on the agenda. Whatever India or Pakistan may have subsequently agreed between themselves at later summits – Tashkent in 1966, Simla in 1972 and Lahore in 1999 – the
tripartite nature of the issue, with the plebiscite as a means of determining the political allegiance of the inhabitants of the state, was already confirmed by the United Nations in 1948.


But, as Sir Owen Dixon, UN representative for India and Pakistan, noted in 1950, the difficulty of resolving the future of the state was compounded by the fact that it was ‘not really a unit geographically, demographically or economically’ but ‘an agglomeration of territories brought under the political power of One Maharaja.’ On the Pakistani-administered side of the ceasefire line, the peoples of the Northern Areas, including the former kingdoms of Hunza, Nagar, Gilgit and Baltistan, are culturally distinct not only from each other, but from the inhabitants in the rest of the state; so too are the people of
Azad Jammu and Kashmir, centred on the districts of Kotli, Poonch, Mirpur and Muzaffarabad. All are Muslim, but whereas Shia Muslims predominate in the Northern Areas, Sunnis are in the majority in Azad Jammu and Kashmir. In the two-thirds of the territory administered by India, the majority of the valley’s inhabitants are Kashmiri Muslims, with a small percentage of Hindus and Sikhs. In Jammu approximately two-thirds of the population are Hindu,
one-third Muslims, who live primarily in the Doda and Rajauri areas bordering Pakistani-administered AJK. Ladakh is sparsely populated. Over half its population are Buddhist, less than half are Shia Muslim with a small percentae of Hindus.  What Owen Dixon noticed from the outset was that with peoples of such diverse origins nominally united under one political authority, whatever the outcome of a unitary plebiscite, there was bound to be disappointment from amongst the minority. He therefore suggested, as have future commentators, that a regional plebiscite might provide a more equitable outcome, even though it would undoubtedly lead to the division of the state. As the Indian writer, Sumantra Bose, has recognised, the challenge was always to find a middle ground between ‘communal compartmentalisation and the chimera of a non-existent oneness’

kp posted:

Just a question?? Who invented Suicide Bombing? and is it a success if the person survives.

Why grown people travel from around the world would walk in circle throwing stones at the Kabba.?? Pelting stones at a ROCK. smff??

What does the Kaaba have to do with anything Cde. Free Fried Rice? In answer to your first question, Suicide attacks go back all the way to the 1st Century AD and were carried out by.......not muslims but jews against other jews. 

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