Ray posted:
Dave posted:
Ray posted:

Modi is a dog

Isn’t it offensive calling someone a dog as per  Islam and their is sever consequences. 

On the other hand you will suspend posters for posting animals pictures. 

Speaking of hypocrisy. 

 

get over it

Get over what?? 

You haven’t answered my question why it’s ok to called a man a “ dog” but it’s not ok to post a monkey picture which wasn’t labeled against anyone. 

Stormborn posted:

Hari Singh, the hereditary leader of the region, wanted to remain independent. Pakistan invaded. He fled to India and hand over the state to India. India fought back to defend its new claims. Pakistan kept a portion after a cease fire.

They invaded again and started an ethnic cleansing. India invaded and almost destroyed Pakistan and retained the property. China has claims like any greedy neighbor wanting the place for its water. It is the reason the invaded and still hold Tibet. Maybe they should have gone with India. 

The region is a mess. India cannot give up the area. Its survival depends on holding on to it hence their hard line stance.  With it falling into the hands of Pakistan, over a 100 millions down stream will lose their water supply as it is diverted to Pakistan. India will never let Kashmir go. 

Stormborn forgot Taiwan's claim to Kashmir. Communist China has an agreement with Pakistan to get a piece of Indian Kashmir after it is giving back to Pakistan. The Pakis put some serious blows on Kashmiris living in Pakistan. There are no reporters there in Pakistan kashmir to record the lashes so everyone thinks it is all Rosie there

 

Keffer is no longer allowed in Pakistan Kashmir. So he doesn't know what is going on there.

 

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Jammu & Kashmir has much bigger population than Azad Kashmir.  The economy of J&K is $25 billion compared to $4 billion in Azad.  The Indian gov't. is building major infra-structure in J & K.  From tunnels to bridges to highways through the Himalayas. India is totally crazy if they give up Kashmir. Islamists have made it clear that after Kashmir they're going after India. Pakistan does not allow an independent state in Azad. Why would Kashmiris believe that they will allow them a free and independent country if India secedes?

Chief posted:
Stormborn posted:
Prashad posted:

If a Kashmiri tries to hurt or hurts an Indian soldier or civilian then that Kashmiri should be captured, chained and put to work by the Indian state cleaning up and repairing the slums of India permanently. 

And you want berbice as an indian state...no? I do however agree that Kashmir cannot be given independence for historical reasons but more for it being one of India's water bank. India I water starved. 

What?

Cannot be given I dependence because of what?

Where is your head?

Hello this is 2019.

D2, it is the same nonsensencial argument the Colonial power used against Ghandi.

Modi and his Hindu party is doing this out of pure hate.

No. They cannot be given independence. India needs to resettle couple million Hindus into the region!

Nehru posted:

The Paki Govt has their kashmir citizens like slave!! No wonder those in Indian Kashmir do not want to cross over. They love the Freedom and Welfare of the Indian govt.

Suh yuh seying dem Paki ppl are like dogs, dey get kicked, by dey own mussalman. 

West Pakistan needed India to free dem from East Pakistan. These ppl get hard heads, they never will learn. Dey should read more books.  

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Abu Jihad posted:
Nehru posted:

The Paki Govt has their kashmir citizens like slave!! No wonder those in Indian Kashmir do not want to cross over. They love the Freedom and Welfare of the Indian govt.

Modi was the man who overseen genocide in Gujerat.  There is no denying the facts.  

 

 

I suppose when the muslim invaders came to India they were kind and benevolent. Shit, those bastards burn libraries that the fires last for months, impose taxes on the ppl juss for not being muslims, dismantle their temples, carted off their golden idols, forbade the use of salt unless they paid the taxes alloted to hindus. Not to mention the beheadings, boiling in oil and other atrocities associated with a barbaric race of ppl.

Modi remembers. 

Muslims call him a dog, he is biting alyuh azz good and proper. May allah bless him for dealing wid a ppl who tek his name into bloodshed.    

seignet posted:
Abu Jihad posted:
Nehru posted:

The Paki Govt has their kashmir citizens like slave!! No wonder those in Indian Kashmir do not want to cross over. They love the Freedom and Welfare of the Indian govt.

Modi was the man who overseen genocide in Gujerat.  There is no denying the facts.  

 

 

I suppose when the muslim invaders came to India they were kind and benevolent. Shit, those bastards burn libraries that the fires last for months, impose taxes on the ppl juss for not being muslims, dismantle their temples, carted off their golden idols, forbade the use of salt unless they paid the taxes alloted to hindus. Not to mention the beheadings, boiling in oil and other atrocities associated with a barbaric race of ppl.

Modi remembers. 

Muslims call him a dog, he is biting alyuh azz good and proper. May allah bless him for dealing wid a ppl who tek his name into bloodshed.    


As usual you dont know the difference between Mongol and Mohgul.

If they committed genocide, they should also be held accountable.  

Genocide is genocide and it should not be sugar coated 

 

Prashad posted:

Mongol and Mohgul is the same thing. Both have origins in Mongolia. Mohguls came from Central Asia But they are of Mongolian origin.

And if you were intelligent you will understand the beauty of Islam and how it conquered the worse entities known to mankind.

the emergence of the moguls proves the opposite of what you jackasses are saying.

 

 

kp posted:

Just a question?? Who invented Suicide Bombing? and is it a success if the person survives.

Why grown people travel from around the world would walk in circle throwing stones at the Kabba.?? Pelting stones at a ROCK. smff??

Banna, people's methods of worship should not be criticize as long as no one is hurt.  One can ask the same question of some rituals in Hinduism!

That's a symbolic stoning, like Hindus busting up coconuts!

kp posted:

Just a question?? Who invented Suicide Bombing? and is it a success if the person survives.

Why grown people travel from around the world would walk in circle throwing stones at the Kabba.?? Pelting stones at a ROCK. smff??

I think modern day suicide bombing began with the new Jewish settlers in Palestine. I believe the Israelis were the first to hijack a plane also. But I could be wrong.

There is no successful story to any suicide bombing. If the intended bomber manages to execute his/her mission, their intended targets loses a hell of a lot. If the intended bomber fails to execute his/her mission, another one will certainly try to do a better job. Success and only come about if there is meaningful dialogue toward an amicable resolution.

The rituals performed at hajj are no different from rituals performed by people of other religions. They can look strange to the one not familiar with them but make the world of sense to those familiar with their objectives. Everyone who has performed hajj returns to their homes with a completely different perspective of things before they made the visit. Malcolm X wrote about his transformation after performing hajj. The circling of the Kaaba could be akin to going around the mara on one's wedding day although the meanings and significances are different. No one throws stones at the Kaaba. There is a structure close to the Kaaba where devotees re-enact the act of the prophet Ibrahim when he was tempted three times by the devil to abandon his mission to sacrifice his only son at the time, Ismail. Yes Siggy, it was Ismail. The birth of Isaac was a blessing from God to Ibrahim because Ibrahim demonstrated his steadfast faith in God when he was willing to kill his only son Ismail for the love of God. And that was only a vision, not even a command or demand.

Lots of rituals that people of each faith do always seem stranger to the unfamiliar. None of us really know which is valid or even if any is valid. What we do know is that there is no justification for anyone killing or abusing another. Suicide bombing is wrong. Government abuse as well as abuse from anyone else of authority is equally wrong. Who knows. Maybe we will all get it right after Christ returns and the lamb is able to safely lie with the lion. 

ksazma posted:
kp posted:

Just a question?? Who invented Suicide Bombing? and is it a success if the person survives.

Why grown people travel from around the world would walk in circle throwing stones at the Kabba.?? Pelting stones at a ROCK. smff??

I think modern day suicide bombing began with the new Jewish settlers in Palestine. I believe the Israelis were the first to hijack a plane also. But I could be wrong.

There is no successful story to any suicide bombing. If the intended bomber manages to execute his/her mission, their intended targets loses a hell of a lot. If the intended bomber fails to execute his/her mission, another one will certainly try to do a better job. Success and only come about if there is meaningful dialogue toward an amicable resolution.

The rituals performed at hajj are no different from rituals performed by people of other religions. They can look strange to the one not familiar with them but make the world of sense to those familiar with their objectives. Everyone who has performed hajj returns to their homes with a completely different perspective of things before they made the visit. Malcolm X wrote about his transformation after performing hajj. The circling of the Kaaba could be akin to going around the mara on one's wedding day although the meanings and significances are different. No one throws stones at the Kaaba. There is a structure close to the Kaaba where devotees re-enact the act of the prophet Ibrahim when he was tempted three times by the devil to abandon his mission to sacrifice his only son at the time, Ismail. Yes Siggy, it was Ismail. The birth of Isaac was a blessing from God to Ibrahim because Ibrahim demonstrated his steadfast faith in God when he was willing to kill his only son Ismail for the love of God. And that was only a vision, not even a command or demand.

Lots of rituals that people of each faith do always seem stranger to the unfamiliar. None of us really know which is valid or even if any is valid. What we do know is that there is no justification for anyone killing or abusing another. Suicide bombing is wrong. Government abuse as well as abuse from anyone else of authority is equally wrong. Who knows. Maybe we will all get it right after Christ returns and the lamb is able to safely lie with the lion. 

I don’t know everything, that’s why I ask. I am not a religious person. Thanks  for your explanation. 

Abu Jihad posted:
Prashad posted:

Mongol and Mohgul is the same thing. Both have origins in Mongolia. Mohguls came from Central Asia But they are of Mongolian origin.

And if you were intelligent you will understand the beauty of Islam and how it conquered the worse entities known to mankind.

the emergence of the moguls proves the opposite of what you jackasses are saying.

 

 

Neither the Mongols or Mohguls forced Islam to be the dominant religion in Mongolia their common homeland of origin.  Even today Islam is a minority religion in Mongolia. Yet in the lands that the Mongols and Mohguls conquered they championed Islam to be a dominant religion in these lands.  Prashad does not understand why. Was the religion used a mechanism to ensure law and order together with helping the economic/social/political functioning of a conquered society and its  people?

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Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Aren't the Nehru's from Kashmir? 

They are Kashmiri Pandits.  That is the name for Kashmiri Hindus.  Most of the Kashmiri Pandits were forced to leave Kashmir for Jammu because of religious riots and killing of Kashmiri Pandits by religious extremists in Kashmir. Jammu has a majority of Hindus.  I know a Jammu Hindu woman. She has blond hair, blue eyes and white skin.  You will never know that she is an East Indian person by looking at her.