skeldon_man posted:
Nehru posted:

And the stinking PNC and their stinking Chronicle spreading LIES that PPP bringing Soca Artists!! I guess by nature they are LYING DOGS!!

It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?

What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Nehru posted:

And the stinking PNC and their stinking Chronicle spreading LIES that PPP bringing Soca Artists!! I guess by nature they are LYING DOGS!!

It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?

What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?

In 1964 they teamed up with UF. In 2015 they teamed up with AFC. We are discussing the PNC winning a free and fair election gaining a majority.

skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Nehru posted:

And the stinking PNC and their stinking Chronicle spreading LIES that PPP bringing Soca Artists!! I guess by nature they are LYING DOGS!!

It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?

What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?

In 1964 they teamed up with UF. In 2015 they teamed up with AFC.

We are discussing the PNC winning a free and fair election gaining a majority.

So the PNC later morphed in to PNCR are not part of the winning team ?

Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?

The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.

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In 2001, the party had re-branded itself the PNCR, attaching a Reform component to the original title of the party in an attempt to change the image of the party and to append, as the PPP had done in 1992, a civic component to the party.
In 2006, the party entered the elections as the PNCR- One Guyana (PNCR-1G). But most people did not take that coalition seriously, knowing that the other partners in the grouping were marginal and that the real power remained with the PNCR.

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...randing-of-the-pncr/

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Nehru posted:

And the stinking PNC and their stinking Chronicle spreading LIES that PPP bringing Soca Artists!! I guess by nature they are LYING DOGS!!

It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?

What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?

In 1964 they teamed up with UF. In 2015 they teamed up with AFC.

We are discussing the PNC winning a free and fair election gaining a majority.

So the PNC later morphed in to PNCR a part of the winning team ?

Bai, even the R did not help them win. They had to team up with like 8-9 2 by 2 parties to barely win and, who knows if they did. Gayboy Cheeseburger Gary Hunt did not allow PNC stooge...paid Surujballi to order a recount, even though one was requested for one region.

Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?

What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?

1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office. Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing. Thirdly, although the  PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.

Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?

The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.

 addition to my prior post.

Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?

What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?

1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office. Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing. Thirdly, although the  PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.

Than you Gilly. Poverty prevented us to buy a newspaper or have a radio during those days. We were ignorant of the political doings during that period. We heard a little bit here and there from civics in school.

Dave posted:

In 2001, the party had re-branded itself the PNCR, attaching a Reform component to the original title of the party in an attempt to change the image of the party and to append, as the PPP had done in 1992, a civic component to the party.


In 2006, the party entered the elections as the PNCR- One Guyana (PNCR-1G). But most people did not take that coalition seriously, knowing that the other partners in the grouping were marginal and that the real power remained with the PNCR.

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...randing-of-the-pncr/

The 2006 elections had  the lowest turnout of voters ,since 1992.

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Django posted:

Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?

The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.

 addition to my prior post.

Demographic changes affect all races in Guyana. I do not see the blacks supporting any coolie for office(check the AFC with Ramjattan being president someday in the PNC). I saw on FB where they ask Granger to use the military to stay in office. You never heard that from a coolie.

Gilbakka posted:

1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office. Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing. Thirdly, although the  PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.

excuse me

how exactly was the 1964 elections "not fair"?

Guyana has not had a first-past-the-post election since . . . does that make all those elections the PPP won since 1992 "not fair"?

the other 'reasons' you cited have NOTHING to do with "elections" proper

words have meaning banna. . . cut the Stalinist propaganda and NONSENSE!

yesss . . . i know old habits die hard

smfh

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Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?

What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?

1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office.

Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing.

Thirdly, although the  PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.

History proven the reason that was done ,the US  persuade British Government ,to keep Cheddie Jagan out power.

Django posted:

Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?

The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.

 addition to my prior post.

I assume that by demographic changes you mean lesser Indos in the population. And if that's the case you're incorrectly supposing that the PPP/C won general elections from 1992 to 2011 with Indo votes alone. In fact thousands of Amerindians, Afros and Mixed-Race folks voted for the PPP/C.

What do you mean by the people who are being condemned daily? If you're referring to Afros the PPP/C isn't condemning them. The PPP/C is condemning the PNC-dominated APNU+AFC daily. Big difference.

skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?

The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.

 addition to my prior post.

Demographic changes affect all races in Guyana.

I do not see the blacks supporting any coolie for office(check the AFC with Ramjattan being president someday in the PNC).

I saw on FB where they ask Granger to use the military to stay in office. You never heard that from a coolie.

The Indo Guyanese are more affected  percentage wise, than the other races.

Who knows that may change .

Regarding some FB post ,i don't take most of the post seriously ,both sides can be very nasty.

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Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?

The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.

 addition to my prior post.

Demographic changes affect all races in Guyana. I do not see the blacks supporting any coolie for office(check the AFC with Ramjattan being president someday in the PNC). I saw on FB where they ask Granger to use the military to stay in office. You never heard that from a coolie.

The Indo Guyanese are more affected  percentage wise, than the other races.

So you're telling me that the Amerindians fully support the PNC? I do not see the Amerindians having demographic changes. I see lots of blacks migrating out of Guyana. There were some blacks in the Skeldon area whose entire families left for the USA. Bai rain nah fall ah wan man door.

Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?

What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?

1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office.

Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing.

Thirdly, although the  PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.

History proven the reason that was done ,the US  persuade British Government ,to keep Cheddie Jagan out power.

Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world. And the US has been consistently condemned in the United Nations for its actions worldwide.

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Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?

What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?

1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office.

Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing.

Thirdly, although the  PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.

History proven the reason that was done ,the US  persuade British Government ,to keep Cheddie Jagan out power.

Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world. 

Thanks, Gilly!!! Even though I live in America, I always say that America has its faults. They preach democracy. When democracy prevails and they don't like the result, they resort to covert activities for regime change.

Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Django posted

What happened in 19

1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office.

Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing.

Thirdly, although the  PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.

History proven the reason that was done ,the US  persuade British Government ,to keep Cheddie Jagan out power.

Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world. And the US has been consistently condemned in the United Nations for its actions worldwide.

Banna, get with it, all’s fair on love and war.

Cheddie preached his Marxist doctrine and the West reacted out of their own interest.

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Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:

Ponder on the causative why the PPP continuously won the elections from 1992 to 2015. With the demographic changes ,do you think the party can win ? will the window dressing help ?

The people who are being condemned daily are the ones that can make the PPP win future elections,they aren't fools ,they can think and are not blind ,the are aware of the ploy to be used and then discarded, in the game to grab power.

 addition to my prior post.

I assume that by demographic changes you mean lesser Indos in the population. And if that's the case you're incorrectly supposing that the PPP/C won general elections from 1992 to 2011 with Indo votes alone.

In fact thousands of Amerindians, Afros and Mixed-Race folks voted for the PPP/C.

What do you mean by the people who are being condemned daily? If you're referring to Afros the PPP/C isn't condemning them.

The PPP/C is condemning the PNC-dominated APNU+AFC daily. Big difference.

Doing a deep analysis ,Indo Guyanese ,the majority of the population vote solidly for the PPP. There was a tilt in the 2011 Elections ,it's claimed all have gone back to the PPP.

You need to look at the supporters of the PPP, you will see the condemnation. Well we don't have to go far look here on this forum.

skeldon_man posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:

1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office.

Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing.

Thirdly, although the  PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.

History proven the reason that was done ,the US  persuade British Government ,to keep Cheddie Jagan out power.

Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world. 

Thanks, Gilly!!! Even though I live in America, I always say that America has its faults. They preach democracy. When democracy prevails and they don't like the result, they resort to covert activities for regime change.

Shut ayuh pokes. After the Cuban missile crisis, why would they want another outpost?

Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:

It is in their DNA. Have they ever been honest with the Guyanese people? Have they ever win a fair election? Have they robbed the people and lied to their faces?

What happened in 1964 and 2015 ?

1964 general elections were not fair. Firstly it was forced on the democratically elected PPP government after only 3 years in office.

Secondly the ruling colonial British government changed the voting system from first-past-the-post to proportional representation. Previously the PPP was winning first-past-the-post elections hands down and PNC was getting a bad thrashing.

Thirdly, although the  PPP secured the largest votes the Governor bypassed Jagan and summoned Burnham and D'Aguiar to form a coalition government. In his memoir Jagan asserted that the PPP was cheated, not defeated.

History proven the reason that was done ,the US  persuade British Government ,to keep Cheddie Jagan out power.

Was that fair? Was it not the right of us Guyanese voters to elect our own government? The US has a sordid history of interfering in other countries' affairs throughout the world. And the US has been consistently condemned in the United Nations for its actions worldwide.

Bhai , you are aware ,it was the influence of Communism in the Capitalist backyard. On to today supporters of the PPP ,can't comprehend "Marxist Ideology"