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Originally posted by Nehru:
Kari is simply asking GNI Members to have a Civilised dialog about Guyana's Election. Correct me if I am wromg Kari.

Kari, You made some valid points. However, there is a lot of TALK about Corruption and Pensions and other items but when we take a close look at the FACTS, we find out that it has to do with LIES and misinformation.

With regards to the younger Voters, we have to wait and see since MOST may be voting for the first time. However, looking at the large group of Young People at the PPP Rallies is very encouraging for the PPP.

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PAVI: Kari, You made some valid points. However, there is a lot of TALK about Corruption and Pensions and other items but when we take a close look at the FACTS, we find out that it has to do with LIES and misinformation.

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Originally posted by Nehru:
Kari is simply asking GNI Members to have a Civilised dialog about Guyana's Election. Correct me if I am wromg Kari.

Kari, You made some valid points. However, there is a lot of TALK about Corruption and Pensions and other items but when we take a close look at the FACTS, we find out that it has to do with LIES and misinformation.

With regards to the younger Voters, we have to wait and see since MOST may be voting for the first time. However, looking at the large group of Young People at the PPP Rallies is very encouraging for the PPP.

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Originally posted by raymond:

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Originally posted by Nehru:
Kari is simply asking GNI Members to have a Civilised dialog about Guyana's Election. Correct me if I am wromg Kari.

Kari, You made some valid points. However, there is a lot of TALK about Corruption and Pensions and other items but when we take a close look at the FACTS, we find out that it has to do with LIES and misinformation.

With regards to the younger Voters, we have to wait and see since MOST may be voting for the first time. However, looking at the large group of Young People at the PPP Rallies is very encouraging for the PPP.

wait...no WATA WASH SHITTA BATTY comment

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Originally posted by TK_REDUX:

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PAVI: Kari, You made some valid points. However, there is a lot of TALK about Corruption and Pensions and other items but when we take a close look at the FACTS, we find out that it has to do with LIES and misinformation.

The pension is $3 mill = money + perks. Do you deny that? And there is no upper cap. Deny that?

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Originally posted by Kari:
Historic trends, statistics, and organization indicate that the PPP is the strongest political party at the polls.

Elections are always about which is the better party - the Presidency merely follows this question - and not about a referendum about the incumbent. The APNU has yet to remake itself from the image of the old PNC and thus doesn't figure more than its traditional vote. That traditional has been erode by the upstart AFC and will continue to be so as the electorate becomes more familiar and comfortable with the AFC's leadership.

There are two things that continue to add to the ascendancy of the AFC - (i) the changing demographic. By that I mean the electorate is younger and some of the form voters (tribal constituents) would have emigrated; and (ii) the general incidence of a trend where the majority of Guyanese doesn't feel that their lot is better in the last 5 years.

There has been two trends tracking in this forum about what's important in November. One is the corruption of the PPP leadership - there is a litany of facts that they should not be proud of. The other is the defections - open and implicit among PPP party stalwarts. While the tribal voting pattern may be inured to the former, much has been made of Moses Nagamootoo's resignation and subsequent charges and counter-charges.

So to recap - the current leadership's corrupt governance and ineffective direction of the economy does not do it harm because of the tribal pattern at the polls, aided by continued obstinacy of a PNC party that refuses to decouple itself from its inglorious past. A changing demographic that points to an ascendancy of the AFC; and now Moses. While some may seek to diminish the latter, it is impactfull given the heat it has generated.

So here's to Chief. You're looking at an election result that may not give any one party more than 50% of the votes. One trend I'm tracking is that the PPP/C doesn't seem to have a dance partner come post-election. Thus with a hung result a coalition of convenience may emerge with the AFC and APNU. Van--West, Moses, Prak, Trotman on one side and Donald, Rohee, Gail on the other with their built-in tribalism - it's shaping up to be a watershed election.

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Originally posted by Nehru:
Yeah RIGHT, Van West and Flour Man Sase young like young ducklings.

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Nehru:
Yeah RIGHT, Van West and Flour Man Sase young like young ducklings.

The more you write the more you make the same point you are indeed a moron. You have nothing to add except constant senseless rants and disparaging remarks about this person or that on the presumption you are of better stock. What may I ask that is? You smell like a low lifer

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Originally posted by Nehru:
Kari is simply asking GNI Members to have a Civilised dialog about Guyana's Election. Correct me if I am wromg Kari.

Kari, You made some valid points. However, there is a lot of TALK about Corruption and Pensions and other items but when we take a close look at the FACTS, we find out that it has to do with LIES and misinformation.

With regards to the younger Voters, we have to wait and see since MOST may be voting for the first time. However, looking at the large group of Young People at the PPP Rallies is very encouraging for the PPP.

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Originally posted by Nehru:
And you smell like a Buck man on PIWARI!!!

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Nehru:
Yeah RIGHT, Van West and Flour Man Sase young like young ducklings.

The more you write the more you make the same point you are indeed a moron. You have nothing to add except constant senseless rants and disparaging remarks about this person or that on the presumption you are of better stock. What may I ask that is? You smell like a low lifer

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Kari: So here's to Chief. You're looking at an election result that may not give any one party more than 50% of the votes. One trend I'm tracking is that the PPP/C doesn't seem to have a dance partner come post-election. Thus with a hung result a coalition of convenience may emerge with the AFC and APNU. Van--West, Moses, Prak, Trotman on one side and Donald, Rohee, Gail on the other with their built-in tribalism - it's shaping up to be a watershed election.

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Kari: So here's to Chief. You're looking at an election result that may not give any one party more than 50% of the votes. One trend I'm tracking is that the PPP/C doesn't seem to have a dance partner come post-election. Thus with a hung result a coalition of convenience may emerge with the AFC and APNU. Van--West, Moses, Prak, Trotman on one side and Donald, Rohee, Gail on the other with their built-in tribalism - it's shaping up to be a watershed election.

My understanding is that any such coalition must include the party with the highest tally, which will most likely be PPP/C. Granted TUF does not garner enough votes to become its preferred partner, PPP/C would have a nightmare negotiating with either APNU or AFC to form the new govt. Failing that, I believe some kind of Emergency govt would be put in place until new elections are held. I hope someone could clarify this for us.

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Kari: So here's to Chief. You're looking at an election result that may not give any one party more than 50% of the votes. One trend I'm tracking is that the PPP/C doesn't seem to have a dance partner come post-election. Thus with a hung result a coalition of convenience may emerge with the AFC and APNU. Van--West, Moses, Prak, Trotman on one side and Donald, Rohee, Gail on the other with their built-in tribalism - it's shaping up to be a watershed election.

My understanding is that any such coalition must include the party with the highest tally, which will most likely be PPP/C. Granted TUF does not garner enough votes to become its preferred partner, PPP/C would have a nightmare negotiating with either APNU or AFC to form the new govt. Failing that, I believe some kind of Emergency govt would be put in place until new elections are held. I hope someone could clarify this for us.

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Kari: So here's to Chief. You're looking at an election result that may not give any one party more than 50% of the votes. One trend I'm tracking is that the PPP/C doesn't seem to have a dance partner come post-election. Thus with a hung result a coalition of convenience may emerge with the AFC and APNU. Van--West, Moses, Prak, Trotman on one side and Donald, Rohee, Gail on the other with their built-in tribalism - it's shaping up to be a watershed election.

My understanding is that any such coalition must include the party with the highest tally, which will most likely be PPP/C. Granted TUF does not garner enough votes to become its preferred partner, PPP/C would have a nightmare negotiating with either APNU or AFC to form the new govt. Failing that, I believe some kind of Emergency govt would be put in place until new elections are held. I hope someone could clarify this for us.

The largest vote count forms the government.

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Kari: So here's to Chief. You're looking at an election result that may not give any one party more than 50% of the votes. One trend I'm tracking is that the PPP/C doesn't seem to have a dance partner come post-election. Thus with a hung result a coalition of convenience may emerge with the AFC and APNU. Van--West, Moses, Prak, Trotman on one side and Donald, Rohee, Gail on the other with their built-in tribalism - it's shaping up to be a watershed election.

My understanding is that any such coalition must include the party with the highest tally, which will most likely be PPP/C. Granted TUF does not garner enough votes to become its preferred partner, PPP/C would have a nightmare negotiating with either APNU or AFC to form the new govt. Failing that, I believe some kind of Emergency govt would be put in place until new elections are held. I hope someone could clarify this for us.

The largest vote count forms the government.

A party must have over 50% to form the govt; otherwise, there must be a coalition but the party with highest tally must be part of any caolition. Such I was reliably informed.

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Originally posted by Alexander:
If all things are equal it has to be the PPP and someone else. Then you may hear of a constitutional problem and new elections will be called. The PPP of course is determined to avoid this at all costs but as of now Moses could do a lot of damage.

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Originally posted by Kari:

You're looking at an election result that may not give any one party more than 50% of the votes.

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Kari: So here's to Chief. You're looking at an election result that may not give any one party more than 50% of the votes. One trend I'm tracking is that the PPP/C doesn't seem to have a dance partner come post-election. Thus with a hung result a coalition of convenience may emerge with the AFC and APNU. Van--West, Moses, Prak, Trotman on one side and Donald, Rohee, Gail on the other with their built-in tribalism - it's shaping up to be a watershed election.

My understanding is that any such coalition must include the party with the highest tally, which will most likely be PPP/C. Granted TUF does not garner enough votes to become its preferred partner, PPP/C would have a nightmare negotiating with either APNU or AFC to form the new govt. Failing that, I believe some kind of Emergency govt would be put in place until new elections are held. I hope someone could clarify this for us.

The largest vote count forms the government.

A party must have over 50% to form the govt; otherwise, there must be a coalition but the party with highest tally must be part of any caolition. Such I was reliably informed.

Where did you get that from? Coalitions after the elections are not allowed by this system.

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

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Originally posted by Kari:

You're looking at an election result that may not give any one party more than 50% of the votes.

One perspective on the current election issues.

However, when the "dust" is settled, the results are more likely to be ..

55% or more == PPP/C -- majority government.

45% or less == PNCR, AFC and other parties.

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Originally posted by Catherine:

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

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Originally posted by Kari:

You're looking at an election result that may not give any one party more than 50% of the votes.

One perspective on the current election issues.

However, when the "dust" is settled, the results are more likely to be ..

55% or more == PPP/C -- majority government.

45% or less == PNCR, AFC and other parties.

I predict the same. Guyanese are smart and they know progress when they see it.

I am confident that they will trust the PPP/C to carry the shining light forward.

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Kari: So here's to Chief. You're looking at an election result that may not give any one party more than 50% of the votes. One trend I'm tracking is that the PPP/C doesn't seem to have a dance partner come post-election. Thus with a hung result a coalition of convenience may emerge with the AFC and APNU. Van--West, Moses, Prak, Trotman on one side and Donald, Rohee, Gail on the other with their built-in tribalism - it's shaping up to be a watershed election.

My understanding is that any such coalition must include the party with the highest tally, which will most likely be PPP/C. Granted TUF does not garner enough votes to become its preferred partner, PPP/C would have a nightmare negotiating with either APNU or AFC to form the new govt. Failing that, I believe some kind of Emergency govt would be put in place until new elections are held. I hope someone could clarify this for us.

The largest vote count forms the government.

A party must have over 50% to form the govt; otherwise, there must be a coalition but the party with highest tally must be part of any caolition. Such I was reliably informed.

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Originally posted by Catherine:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Kari: So here's to Chief. You're looking at an election result that may not give any one party more than 50% of the votes. One trend I'm tracking is that the PPP/C doesn't seem to have a dance partner come post-election. Thus with a hung result a coalition of convenience may emerge with the AFC and APNU. Van--West, Moses, Prak, Trotman on one side and Donald, Rohee, Gail on the other with their built-in tribalism - it's shaping up to be a watershed election.

My understanding is that any such coalition must include the party with the highest tally, which will most likely be PPP/C. Granted TUF does not garner enough votes to become its preferred partner, PPP/C would have a nightmare negotiating with either APNU or AFC to form the new govt. Failing that, I believe some kind of Emergency govt would be put in place until new elections are held. I hope someone could clarify this for us.

The largest vote count forms the government.

A party must have over 50% to form the govt; otherwise, there must be a coalition but the party with highest tally must be part of any caolition. Such I was reliably informed.

Where did you get that from? Coalitions after the elections are not allowed by this system.

They can do what the England did.

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Originally posted by Catherine:
The AFC is a party of 'academia'
The APNU is a new coalition still unknown to many, but may see a reduction in its PNC strongholds - some to AFC and some to PPP.

The PPP is a grassroots party and with having governed the country for a number of years, and making improvements since the PNC days, people do not forget. They have seen the progress and they know that, in spite of the perceived corruption (and which country does not have corruption!), people know where their bread is buttered.

My prediction is that AFC will gain some votes this election, adding some of the youths to their camp. However, the PPP will get a majority. This is based on the fact that Guyanese are not stupid, they are comfortable with the known, proven track record of the PPP/C. Why fix it when it ain't broken.

It is not required for Ramotar to enter into a debate with 'academia", but it is better for him to go out and meet the people, tell them what the PPP/C has been doing and what plans it has ahead.

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TK: Spice Girl are you sure about that? I thought the party which gets the highest percentage forms the govt regardless? I stand corrected, however.

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Originally posted by Catherine:

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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:

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Originally posted by Kari:

You're looking at an election result that may not give any one party more than 50% of the votes.

One perspective on the current election issues.

However, when the "dust" is settled, the results are more likely to be ..

55% or more == PPP/C -- majority government.

45% or less == PNCR, AFC and other parties.

I predict the same. Guyanese are smart and they know progress when they see it.

I am confident that they will trust the PPP/C to carry the shining light forward.

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Originally posted by TK_REDUX:

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Originally posted by D2:

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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Kari: So here's to Chief. You're looking at an election result that may not give any one party more than 50% of the votes. One trend I'm tracking is that the PPP/C doesn't seem to have a dance partner come post-election. Thus with a hung result a coalition of convenience may emerge with the AFC and APNU. Van--West, Moses, Prak, Trotman on one side and Donald, Rohee, Gail on the other with their built-in tribalism - it's shaping up to be a watershed election.

My understanding is that any such coalition must include the party with the highest tally, which will most likely be PPP/C. Granted TUF does not garner enough votes to become its preferred partner, PPP/C would have a nightmare negotiating with either APNU or AFC to form the new govt. Failing that, I believe some kind of Emergency govt would be put in place until new elections are held. I hope someone could clarify this for us.

The largest vote count forms the government.

A party must have over 50% to form the govt; otherwise, there must be a coalition but the party with highest tally must be part of any caolition. Such I was reliably informed.

Spice Girl are you sure about that? I thought the party which gets the highest percentage forms the govt regardless? I stand corrected, however.

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

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TK: Spice Girl are you sure about that? I thought the party which gets the highest percentage forms the govt regardless? I stand corrected, however.

I discussed this with a top party official. He emphatically stated that there cannot be a minority govt (with less than 50.1% votes. That's why there must be a coalition. Failing to arrive at an agreement, after 5 days, I believe there will be some kind of an Emergency govt until fresh elections are held. Let's hear from GR.

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Originally posted by Spice Girl:

I discussed this with a top party official. He emphatically stated that there cannot be a minority govt (with less than 50.1% votes. That's why there must be a coalition. Failing to arrive at an agreement, after 5 days, I believe there will be some kind of an Emergency govt until fresh elections are held. Let's hear from GR.