Sean posted:Was Badal not involved in Human trafficking ? I stand corrected but his name was once mentioned somewhere. Was he not also linked to smuggling ?
I wonder what Vish will say when he reads this letter about Ramjattan ?
Base is right, DJ is in damage control mode for the PNC but the inevitable end is near.
The Badal issues were concocted by the PPP as a smear campaign as he was anti-PPP!
Django posted:Dave posted:Django posted:Sean posted:Was Badal not involved in Human trafficking ?
I stand corrected but his name was once mentioned somewhere. Was he not also linked to smuggling ?
I wonder what Vish will say when he reads this letter about Ramjattan ?
Base is right, DJ is in damage control mode for the PNC but the inevitable end is near.
Banna what you coming up with ?
The professor should get the facts correct.
How do you know Moses never say those words about $9000. ????
The last I read Dominic Gaskin - Granger son in law ( Minister without high school degree ) willing to put his head on a block, that no money was transferred to Patterson account... well Patterson himself run his Arss over with a 18 wheeler .
Find something dispute , instead of behaving like a kid.
Childish response as usual.
Baseman posted:ksazma posted:Ramjattan isn't going to be the next PM candidate. Nagamootoo isn't either. Neither is Shuman. Granger will let one of his handlers announce that the next PM candidate will be someone from the old PNC club. And no one will be able to challenge that because he would be acting fully within the confines of the Constitution. The question is if the AFC will object to his behavior and betrayal or if they will continue to have this
Word out there, Granger wants to pull out but Ramjattan not allowing. No wham bam, thank you maam!
Seriously, I got inside info. Granger and the PNC strongmen/women have in their calculus the condition of Granger. They want someone with better mass appeal. Granger will likely step aside if his health deteriorates. Ramjattan has no appeal with either the PPP or the PNC constituencies!
Me thinks he and he posse cark duk!
I think it is more like Granger wants to continue fvcking the AFC and the AFC is finding it difficult to pull out. 
They are feeling the pain but also realized that they are now spoilt goods with no further value.
Serve dem right.
ksazma posted:Bai Django, in the case of the Titanic, while many who jumped ship ended up perishing, some did survived unlike all those left on the ship. They all ended up perishing. Time to jump ship bai. That ship is sinking and fast.
I am not on the ship , my forecast says the ship will be afloat.
Dave posted:Django posted:Find something dispute , instead of behaving like a kid.
Childish response as usual.
Find something , you know you can't . If you could this thread would be on fire.
On Thursday, AFC Executive Dominic Gaskin announced that negotiations on a new accord had stalled due to APNUâs failure to accept the AFCâs Khemraj Ramjattan as the coalitionâs prime ministerial (PM) candidate.
RUMJAAT IS DEAD DUCK.
One day after the Alliance for Change (AFC) declared that negotiations on a revised Cummingsburg Accord had stalled, A Partnership for National Unityâs (APNU) lead negotiator Volda Lawrence has disputed this claim.
âWe have no indication from the AFC that these talks have come to an end, they are stalled or any of those issues that I see bandying about in the media,â Lawrence, also the Minister of Public Health and Chairwoman of the PNCR, told a press conference at PNCR headquarters, Congress Place, yesterday.
On Thursday, AFC Executive Dominic Gaskin announced that negotiations on a new accord had stalled due to APNUâs failure to accept the AFCâs Khemraj Ramjattan as the coalitionâs prime ministerial (PM) candidate.
âThe AFC finds it unacceptable that the matter of the presidential and prime ministerial candidates has been repeatedly deferred,â he told reporters, adding that the AFC has therefore advised the APNU that it cannot proceed with any further discussions until the matter is resolved.
Though Gaskin indicated that the APNU was aware of his partyâs dissatisfaction, Lawrence said she was surprised at the partyâs claims.
âThere was some element of surprise,â she observed, adding that for her, while negotiation have been âvery tedious,â the two teams have made tremendous steps towards finalising a new accord.
The PNCR Chairwoman stressed that despite recent reports in the media, the coalition remains strong. She explained that from her point of view, the negotiations have paused only because the AFCâs chief negotiator, David Patterson, is out of the country.
âThe negotiations are still in placeâĶWe will resume our negotiations upon his return. We have been able to provide our leaders a list of core principles which were not rejected. We are at the accord now [and] we have every confidence that this team will be able to complete its work,â Lawrence stressed.
Asked specifically if and why the APNU has objected to Ramjattan as the PM candidate, Lawrence indicated that as negotiations are ongoing, she is ânot allowed to discuss that in public.â
She later indicated that the public could âtake to the bankâ the reported words of President David Granger on the matter.
In an interview with journalist Gordon Moseley, the president reportedly said that he was open to suggestions from all members of the coalition as to the next PM candidate.
âThe president is the chief executive of the country and I am open to recommendations from all of my parties and it is my duty to give the country the best team of ministers in order to accomplish the strategic objectives of the coalition,â Granger was quoted as saying.
On August 12th this year, APNU and the AFC agreed that the Cummingsburg Accord should be revised and that this process could be completed within four weeks. The process has so far dragged on for twice that amount of time before stalling on Wednesday.
Seen as the key factor in the defeat of the PPP/C at the May 2015 general elections, the accord is a sunset agreement with a lifespan of a minimum of three years and a maximum of five years.
The key features were that the AFC would have the PM position in the government and 12 seats in Parliament.
Expecting similar benefits in any new agreement, the AFC in June selected Ramjattan, the Minister of Public Security, as its PM candidate following a bruising internal battle. However, it was later made clear by APNU that this was not a done deal.
Grumblings from hardliners within APNU â particularly its main component, the PNCR â that the AFC had gotten disproportionately high benefits from the accord had begun since 2015 and the renegotiation was seen as an opportunity to reel this in.
Meanwhile, the AFC had also been unhappy with its allocation of seats at the 2016 Local Government Elections (LGE) and had pressed at various points for an adjustment in this area.
APNU threw down the gauntlet and had the AFC contest the November 2018 LGE on its own in an apparent bid to have it show its real worth ahead of negotiations for a 2020 accord.
The poor showing of the AFC in those elections and its stance on a range of matters have been seen as diminishing its national standing and APNU hardliners have calculated that the AFC will bring no electoral advantage to the coalition in 2020 and therefore the coalition should look elsewhere for a PM candidate.
It has been suggested that Minister of State Dawn Hastings-Williams is among the candidates being considered.
AFC Vice Chairman Catherine Hughes on Thursday maintained that while many have declared the party dead, they are confident that the people of Guyana who have supported the AFC in the past, remain committed to their principles and the national development of Guyana.
âThe Alliance for Change is a party of principle committed to the fundamental transformation of Guyanese society which includes healing and reconciliation, an end to racial voting, winner takes all politics and constitutional reform which we have preached since 2006,â she declared, adding that none of these issues were the subjects of the contest in the LGEs, which suffered from low voter turnout.
âIn the absence of a discussion on these major issues, the AFC does not take the results of local government elections as indicative of where the party stands or its standing on major issues of national development,â Hughes argued, while Chairman Raphael Trotman posited that the 2018 results showed the population is not satisfied in seeing the coalition members âseparate and apart.â
âIt is not in best interest of either coalition partner to be separate,â he stressed, adding that ânone who aspire to lead Guyana over the next decade should be gambling with the peopleâs future. We have to do what is in the national interest. I donât see a better alternative to the coalition, compromise has to be found on both sides. We have to do what is best in the national interest.â
True, not stalled but at a stop light! But the AFC will not get the PM position. They will be allowed to keep seats but at a lower level!
Django posted:ksazma posted:Bai Django, in the case of the Titanic, while many who jumped ship ended up perishing, some did survived unlike all those left on the ship. They all ended up perishing. Time to jump ship bai. That ship is sinking and fast.
I am not on the ship , my forecast says the ship will be afloat.
The creator of the titanic said it was invisible too ð
Volda says she has no indication that the AFC having some issues with the coalition talks. Last December she also had no indication that Charrandass would drop a thunderbolt on APNU with his no-confidence vote in parliament. She got bassidy and asked the Speaker to restart the voting, and Charrandass was steadfast to his thunderbolt. Den Volda mouth swell wid vexation and somebaddy snap a photo and publish um in de papers.
Django posted:Dave posted:Django posted:Find something dispute , instead of behaving like a kid.
Childish response as usual.
Find something , you know you can't . If you could this thread would be on fire.
You are exposing you ignorance banna.. STFU.
Next topic ..............
Dave posted:Django posted:Dave posted:Django posted:Find something dispute , instead of behaving like a kid.
Childish response as usual.
Find something , you know you can't . If you could this thread would be on fire.
You are exposing you ignorance banna.. STFU.
Next topic ..............
Stop cussing on Diwali!
Dave posted:Django posted:Dave posted:Django posted:Find something dispute , instead of behaving like a kid.
Childish response as usual.
Find something , you know you can't . If you could this thread would be on fire.
You are exposing you ignorance banna.. STFU.
Next topic ..............
Arrogance to the max !!! typical of PPP-ites..
Gilbakka posted:Volda says she has no indication that the AFC having some issues with the coalition talks. Last December she also had no indication that Charrandass would drop a thunderbolt on APNU with his no-confidence vote in parliament. She got bassidy and asked the Speaker to restart the voting, and Charrandass was steadfast to his thunderbolt. Den Volda mouth swell wid vexation and somebaddy snap a photo and publish um in de papers.
Bai, de sista also asked fuh wan timeout. Obviously she didn't kno dat there is no timeout on a vote. De speekah had tuh tell am dat she cyant call timeout. He tell am it nah wan basketball game.
Django posted:Dave posted:Django, suh you are saying Moses never promise rice farmers $9000. Per bag for paddy .
Yes , he never did !!!
Django, you are very economical with the truth just like the snake
ksazma posted:Gilbakka posted:Volda says she has no indication that the AFC having some issues with the coalition talks. Last December she also had no indication that Charrandass would drop a thunderbolt on APNU with his no-confidence vote in parliament. She got bassidy and asked the Speaker to restart the voting, and Charrandass was steadfast to his thunderbolt. Den Volda mouth swell wid vexation and somebaddy snap a photo and publish um in de papers.
Bai, de sista also asked fuh wan timeout. Obviously she didn't kno dat there is no timeout on a vote. De speekah had tuh tell am dat she cyant call timeout. He tell am it nah wan basketball game.
I thought I was witnessing WWE all-star wrasslin. Dudes taking a fake beating asking for a timeout, fully well knowing there is not timeout. She knew the rules and was so shocked she did not know what kind of projectile slammed into her coconut head.
ksazma posted:Gilbakka posted:Volda says she has no indication that the AFC having some issues with the coalition talks. Last December she also had no indication that Charrandass would drop a thunderbolt on APNU with his no-confidence vote in parliament. She got bassidy and asked the Speaker to restart the voting, and Charrandass was steadfast to his thunderbolt. Den Volda mouth swell wid vexation and somebaddy snap a photo and publish um in de papers.
Bai, de sista also asked fuh wan timeout. Obviously she didn't kno dat there is no timeout on a vote. De speekah had tuh tell am dat she cyant call timeout. He tell am it nah wan basketball game.
Volda nah kno wha she nah kno an' ah rambling all over dee place wid no sense ah direction of whe she ah guh.
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