This man is on a mission, way to go. 

Chase the DOGS to their Pen!!!  Bharat!!!  Bharata!!!!  Bharat!!!

First, de banna needs to drop the RED outfit...dem look like communists.

Second, he needs to tone down dis kind of language and rhetoric...it will only play into the hands of the coalition...dey gon label him a troublemaker and a radical. His actions should speaker louder than his words. This kind of language will only scare off the potential investors and makes Jagdeo look vindictive.

Third, yall need to stop calling the man "Dr". The more you do this, the more questions are going to be raised about fat boy Irfan who still trying to find his certificates.

Fourth, where is Irfaan? He should be leading the charges too, no?

In fact if Guyanese sit back and allow the PNC/AFC to get away with retaining power unlawfully, then they will have to bear their chafe until the white gods come to their rescue. Guyanese, Indos especially, tend to be too docile and don't take sufficient action to secure their rights.  At least Hoyte and other PNC leaders were able, in the past, to get Blacks to burn and loot in the guise of "political protest". Maybe Jagdeo needs to go this route to get some international attention. Start with disrupting Bauxite, Sugar, Rice, Timber, Gold and Exxon's operations, this would immediately get some reaction from the ABC's.  Civil disobedience must ensue and people have to commit for the long haul. 

Drugb posted:

In fact if Guyanese sit back and allow the PNC/AFC to get away with retaining power unlawfully, then they will have to bear their chafe until the white gods come to their rescue. Guyanese, Indos especially, tend to be too docile and don't take sufficient action to secure their rights.  At least Hoyte and other PNC leaders were able, in the past, to get Blacks to burn and loot in the guise of "political protest". Maybe Jagdeo needs to go this route to get some international attention. Start with disrupting Bauxite, Sugar, Rice, Timber, Gold and Exxon's operations, this would immediately get some reaction from the ABC's.  Civil disobedience must ensue and people have to commit for the long haul. 

Burning and looting and civil disobedience will only play into the hands of the coalition....and once they arrest the leaders...say for illegal picketing...it will leave the Opposition leaderless... and at a lost. As you said, "indos are docile". 

There is no need for this at this type of rhetoric and protest actions at this point (that should come later if the coalition continues to head down this path). The Opposition still has a number of legal challenges (see Gaskin today) they can pursue to further erode public support foe the Granger administration. So the opposition has to cultivate support from as many social groups and opposition forces as possible so that it is a broad based opposition,  not just the PPP, that is opposed to the coalition government. More importantly, it needs to cultivate the tacit approval (or at least get them to turn against the coalition) of the ABCs.

Regardless, if you believe what Kissoon said today in his column, the cards are stacked against the PPP...and will not get back into power anytime soon for many reasons. I believe him.

VishMahabir posted:

Burning and looting and civil disobedience will only play into the hands of the coalition....and once they arrest the leaders...say for illegal picketing...it will leave the Opposition leaderless... and at a lost. As you said, "indos are docile". 

There is no need for this at this type of rhetoric and protest actions at this point (that should come later if the coalition continues to head down this path). The Opposition still has a number of legal challenges (see Gaskin today) they can pursue to further erode public support foe the Granger administration. So the opposition has to cultivate support from as many social groups and opposition forces as possible so that it is a broad based opposition,  not just the PPP, that is opposed to the coalition government. More importantly, it needs to cultivate the tacit approval (or at least get them to turn against the coalition) of the ABCs.

Regardless, if you believe what Kissoon said today in his column, the cards are stacked against the PPP...and will not get back into power anytime soon for many reasons. I believe him.

 

The problem with burning and looting for PPP. Their supporters have the most to lose, in fact they will have to burn and loot their own businesses as the PNC supporter mostly have empty pot. 

Drugb posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Burning and looting and civil disobedience will only play into the hands of the coalition....and once they arrest the leaders...say for illegal picketing...it will leave the Opposition leaderless... and at a lost. As you said, "indos are docile". 

There is no need for this at this type of rhetoric and protest actions at this point (that should come later if the coalition continues to head down this path). The Opposition still has a number of legal challenges (see Gaskin today) they can pursue to further erode public support foe the Granger administration. So the opposition has to cultivate support from as many social groups and opposition forces as possible so that it is a broad based opposition,  not just the PPP, that is opposed to the coalition government. More importantly, it needs to cultivate the tacit approval (or at least get them to turn against the coalition) of the ABCs.

Regardless, if you believe what Kissoon said today in his column, the cards are stacked against the PPP...and will not get back into power anytime soon for many reasons. I believe him.

 

The problem with burning and looting for PPP. Their supporters have the most to lose, in fact they will have to burn and loot their own businesses as the PNC supporter mostly have empty pot. 

The PPP have to fight differently than the PNC.  Follow the Gandhi model.   Remember, Blacks control the guns just as the British did in India!  And burning and looting is their passport to power!

Baseman posted:

Drugb posted:

VishMahabir posted:

Burning and looting and civil disobedience will only play into the hands of the coalition....and once they arrest the leaders...say for illegal picketing...it will leave the Opposition leaderless... and at a lost. As you said, "indos are docile". 

There is no need for this at this type of rhetoric and protest actions at this point (that should come later if the coalition continues to head down this path). The Opposition still has a number of legal challenges (see Gaskin today) they can pursue to further erode public support foe the Granger administration. So the opposition has to cultivate support from as many social groups and opposition forces as possible so that it is a broad based opposition,  not just the PPP, that is opposed to the coalition government. More importantly, it needs to cultivate the tacit approval (or at least get them to turn against the coalition) of the ABCs.

Regardless, if you believe what Kissoon said today in his column, the cards are stacked against the PPP...and will not get back into power anytime soon for many reasons. I believe him.

 

The problem with burning and looting for PPP. Their supporters have the most to lose, in fact they will have to burn and loot their own businesses as the PNC supporter mostly have empty pot. 

The PPP have to fight differently than the PNC.  Follow the Gandhi model.   Remember, Blacks control the guns just as the British did in India!  And burning and looting is their passport to power!

Think again, Indos have the $$ to buy sophisticated weaponry and even hire out to mercenaries. You already forgot about RK who will soon return.  They have to look at the jews who once had the stereotype of not being "fighters". Today it is a much different story. 

VishMahabir posted:

First, de banna needs to drop the RED outfit...dem look like communists.

Second, he needs to tone down dis kind of language and rhetoric...it will only play into the hands of the coalition...dey gon label him a troublemaker and a radical. His actions should speaker louder than his words. This kind of language will only scare off the potential investors and makes Jagdeo look vindictive.

Third, yall need to stop calling the man "Dr". The more you do this, the more questions are going to be raised about fat boy Irfan who still trying to find his certificates.

Fourth, where is Irfaan? He should be leading the charges too, no?

Only brainless people will believe what you saying.  The Western countries have their intelligence on the ground and they know what hell is going on.  You and I cannot fool these people. THey are light years ahead us in this type of business.  

Jagdeo is showing that he is prepared to put up a good fight to restore democratic rule in Guyana. 

Drugb posted:

Think again, Indos have the $$ to buy sophisticated weaponry and even hire out to mercenaries. You already forgot about RK who will soon return.  They have to look at the jews who once had the stereotype of not being "fighters". Today it is a much different story. 

But you are a darpok.  

Mitwah posted:

Drugb posted:

Think again, Indos have the $$ to buy sophisticated weaponry and even hire out to mercenaries. You already forgot about RK who will soon return.  They have to look at the jews who once had the stereotype of not being "fighters". Today it is a much different story. 

But you are a darpok.  

You guys competing to see who more Stupidee!. Come on deh.

kp posted:

Mitwah posted:

Drugb posted:

Think again, Indos have the $$ to buy sophisticated weaponry and even hire out to mercenaries. You already forgot about RK who will soon return.  They have to look at the jews who once had the stereotype of not being "fighters". Today it is a much different story. 

But you are a darpok.  

You guys competing to see who more Stupidee!. Come on deh.

You know that's not Drugb posting?

Mitwah posted:

kp posted:

Mitwah posted:

Drugb posted:

Think again, Indos have the $$ to buy sophisticated weaponry and even hire out to mercenaries. You already forgot about RK who will soon return.  They have to look at the jews who once had the stereotype of not being "fighters". Today it is a much different story. 

But you are a darpok.  

You guys competing to see who more Stupidee!. Come on deh.

You know that's not Drugb posting?

It looks like Vishmahabir.

Dave posted:

This man is on a mission, way to go. 

Someone has to stop the bullying.  Sit back and enjoy the show.  This is not Jagan PPP.  This PPP has muscle and firepower.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Dave posted:

This man is on a mission, way to go. 

Someone has to stop the bullying.  Sit back and enjoy the show.  This is not Jagan PPP.  This PPP has muscle and firepower.

You knuckleheads keep saying this...and its based on a wishful thinking....and you guys know this very well.

When people ask the question to others like DrugB, Baseman, Dave, KP et al the discussion descend to the gutter

So let me ask you this question:

What "power" does Jagdeo and the PPP have to force the hands of the PPP?

So far, Opposition calls have been virtually ignored by the coalition...it will continue to be so until and after March 21, and after April 30. It is doubtful that the coalition will announce a date before election before that time UNLESS THE ABC force their hand.

The ONLY reason why the coalition is doing so, I will argue, is to give itself enough time to prepare to rig the election. There is too much at stake for them to simply hand over power to a person they hate with a vengeance. 

The PPP is not known for putting pressure on the PNC....its always the other way around. 

Jagan was unable to do so, and now Jagdeo does not have many cards to play....Jagdeo is the PPP and the PPP is Jagdeo. The PPP does not possess the status and caliber of a respected organization and it is unlikely that it can motivate people to start a revolution from the bottom (despite their supposedly Marxist revolutionary credentials). In other words, the PPP, Jagdeo, Irfaan and others are now victims of their own creation.

On the other hand, the coalition enjoys a more cordial relationship with the external countries that matter, and being in power, they control the means to rig the election and maintain power.

Jagdeo is living in la la land if he believe he can muster Afro support to join hands with Indos, sing cumbayah and then move to create instability and put pressure on the coalition.

Thus my question above....where is Jagdeo's actual and hidden power coming from?

What "power" does Jagdeo and the PPP have to force the hands of the PPP? [should be "coalition"].

I should add that a bunch of military men are controlling the government and they are not going to let Jagdeo create an unstable situation for them.

Even the knowledgeable folks here with historical minds like Gilbakka and Demerara-Guy understands this....unless they choose to ride with the GROUPTHINK mentality and deny reality.

VishMahabir posted:

What "power" does Jagdeo and the PPP have to force the hands of the PPP? [should be "coalition"].

I should add that a bunch of military men are controlling the government and they are not going to let Jagdeo create an unstable situation for them.

Even the knowledgeable folks here with historical minds like Gilbakka and Demerara-Guy understands this....unless they choose to ride with the GROUPTHINK mentality and deny reality.

You are a certified PNC mole, why should anyone explain on GNI what actions the PPP will take after 21st March, just wait and see. Yes the PNC is controlled by ancient military personnel that have one foot in the grave.The PPP is prepared  they have the support of the majority.  So Mole stop asking questions that will bring you answers that you will not like.

VishMahabir posted:

So let me ask you this question:

What "power" does Jagdeo and the PPP have to force the hands of the coalition?

 

The PPP is counting on the rule of law giving the people of Guyana the opportunity to decide which government they want. The PPP and its supporters will be rendered ineffective if it comes down to matching the PNC's supporters' rioting, looting and burning in the streets. That is not PPP supporters' style. As the Opposition Leader, Jagdeo has to be forceful in his statements in the hope that the soon to be illegal Coalition government would find the necessary decency to reverse their behavior.

VishMahabir posted:

What "power" does Jagdeo and the PPP have to force the hands of the PPP? [should be "coalition"].

I should add that a bunch of military men are controlling the government and they are not going to let Jagdeo create an unstable situation for them.

Even the knowledgeable folks here with historical minds like Gilbakka and Demerara-Guy understands this....unless they choose to ride with the GROUPTHINK mentality and deny reality.

The Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia in 1989 comprised a series of nonviolent protests that toppled an entrenched communist state and installed a poet-playwright president, Vaclav Havel. The Orange Revolution in the Ukraine in 2004-2005 was also largely peaceful and toppled a Putin-backed regime. Only one person died, from a heart attack. The Arab Spring in Tunisia and Egypt in 2010-2011 consisted of massive peaceful demonstrations that resulted in regime changes. 

As Bharrat Jagdeo explained, he will spearhead peaceful protests because the PPP is not in the business of beating people and burning stores. GAWU may call strikes in GuySuCo's three estates; strikes are peaceful actions. International petitions for condemnation of the post-March21 illegal government are already in the works. Violence may come only from Coalition supporters but PPP not frightened.