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Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Poor lady give us him so why do we not blame for that while we are in the process of blaming her for the factory. He is a vile vindictive, lying and crooked man and have no standing to make any claim about passing the blame for his terrible decisions.

why dont you people look at what the coalition is doing instead of trying to define who Jagdeo is. The PPP is not in office anymore, you dont seem to understand this.

V
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Poor lady give us him so why do we not blame for that while we are in the process of blaming her for the factory. He is a vile vindictive, lying and crooked man and have no standing to make any claim about passing the blame for his terrible decisions.

why dont you people look at what the coalition is doing instead of trying to define who Jagdeo is. The PPP is not in office anymore, you dont seem to understand this.

Hahahahahaha. Is that your best defence?

Mitwah
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Poor lady give us him so why do we not blame for that while we are in the process of blaming her for the factory. He is a vile vindictive, lying and crooked man and have no standing to make any claim about passing the blame for his terrible decisions.

why dont you people look at what the coalition is doing instead of trying to define who Jagdeo is. The PPP is not in office anymore, you dont seem to understand this.

Vish, with due respect, Jagdeo as President built the Skeldon sugar factory with US$200M. The coalition government has inherited that dud of a factory. Why shouldn't we be concerned about Jagdeo's 'legacy'? For him to now turn around and blame an innocent dead woman is wutliss to say the least. I don't think Joey Jagan will be silent on this one.

FM
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Poor lady give us him so why do we not blame for that while we are in the process of blaming her for the factory. He is a vile vindictive, lying and crooked man and have no standing to make any claim about passing the blame for his terrible decisions.

why dont you people look at what the coalition is doing instead of trying to define who Jagdeo is. The PPP is not in office anymore, you dont seem to understand this.

No the Coalition is going to build Amaila and blame Jagdeo using his weirdo (no pun intended) logic.  I am so happy I am catching up with the history of Guyana.  If you are familiar with our history you will see Jagdeo as the coolie Burnham...opportunist and all.

FM
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Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Poor lady give us him so why do we not blame for that while we are in the process of blaming her for the factory. He is a vile vindictive, lying and crooked man and have no standing to make any claim about passing the blame for his terrible decisions.

why dont you people look at what the coalition is doing instead of trying to define who Jagdeo is. The PPP is not in office anymore, you dont seem to understand this.

I know precisely what jagdeo did...stole himself from not possessing a bicycle to obscene wealth in barely over a decade! The coalition have a lot of stealing to catch up to that crook given we had him for 12 years.

 

The PPP may not be in office but we would be speaking of their corruption for eons to come given the out performed Burnham on every measure. That much is quite understandable.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Poor lady give us him so why do we not blame for that while we are in the process of blaming her for the factory. He is a vile vindictive, lying and crooked man and have no standing to make any claim about passing the blame for his terrible decisions.

why dont you people look at what the coalition is doing instead of trying to define who Jagdeo is. The PPP is not in office anymore, you dont seem to understand this.

Vish, with due respect, Jagdeo as President built the Skeldon sugar factory with US$200M. The coalition government has inherited that dud of a factory. Why shouldn't we be concerned about Jagdeo's 'legacy'? For him to now turn around and blame an innocent dead woman is wutliss to say the least. I don't think Joey Jagan will be silent on this one.

Dam man Jagdo bareface tarass banna, this man has no dam shame until they place his arse in handcuffs.

cain
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Poor lady give us him so why do we not blame for that while we are in the process of blaming her for the factory. He is a vile vindictive, lying and crooked man and have no standing to make any claim about passing the blame for his terrible decisions.

why dont you people look at what the coalition is doing instead of trying to define who Jagdeo is. The PPP is not in office anymore, you dont seem to understand this.

Vish, with due respect, Jagdeo as President built the Skeldon sugar factory with US$200M. The coalition government has inherited that dud of a factory. Why shouldn't we be concerned about Jagdeo's 'legacy'? For him to now turn around and blame an innocent dead woman is wutliss to say the least. I don't think Joey Jagan will be silent on this one.

It is quite a barefaced thing to try to pass it off to the old white lady. I do not care for her much but she has sufficient sins around her ankle to contend with. Let jagdeo bear his own burdens. The record will show he was the one touting this as the next best thing for guyana.

 

He is on record with too many numerous announcements and proclamations as to the great factory he is bestowing on us. Who but the PPP will accept a factory form the chinese  with no warranty of usability? This is his and Ramotar's baby. It has been a decade since delivery and many millions more in "rehabilitation work" since and it is yet to get its sea legs.

 

Worse..they maliciously sold off the only functional part the electrical plant just before the election! That should be reversed forthwith. I am astounded that Granger and crew did not protest its sale and has not commented on this theft of the nations assets since.

FM
Originally Posted by VVP:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Poor lady give us him so why do we not blame for that while we are in the process of blaming her for the factory. He is a vile vindictive, lying and crooked man and have no standing to make any claim about passing the blame for his terrible decisions.

why dont you people look at what the coalition is doing instead of trying to define who Jagdeo is. The PPP is not in office anymore, you dont seem to understand this.

No the Coalition is going to build Amaila and blame Jagdeo using his weirdo (no pun intended) logic.  I am so happy I am catching up with the history of Guyana.  If you are familiar with our history you will see Jagdeo as the

coolie Burnham...opportunist and all.

Hey Gilly (and VVP and Mits)

I hope your history goes beyond the Burnham days and not what the coalition told us...that it started in 1992. There is no guilty race (or person) in Guyana. Politicians hands are stained. All of a sudden we forget about the dark days of the PNC and the dirty hands of Granger and his swearing personal loyalty to a dictator responsible for the killing of Rodney.

 

All I am saying is its not Jagdeo who is the problem now. Blame him for all you want. But, the new government campaigned on the issue of change. They have a responsibility to put mechanisms in place to prevent these excesses in the future. Lets examine how they are doing

those things. If Jagdeo and the PPP are the big bad wolf, as you claim them to be ,then we should not worry about a Jagdeo getting into office 5 years from now if the correct fail safe mechanisms are in place....No?? So the time you are spending cussing Jagdeo, who has no real power, mind you, does not advance our democracy....and takes the focus away from the coalition...thereby they getting a free ride.  

 

The coalition will condemn Jagdeo and the PPP until the cows come home. You intelligent people out here should not come off as soup drinkers and fight a battle that is already being fought. You fall into the groupthink mentality. Keep the focus on what is being done to correct perceived wrongs. This is where the energy should be directed because I think you are all concerned about Guyana.

 

Regarding Burnham and Jagdeo. Despite all the controversy, I was told Jagdeo was and is a smart economist. Assuming there is no one with his caliber in the PPP, would we not all benefit from a smart economist playing chess with this government to make sure they are operating in a way that will be beneficial for the Public Good? Otherwise, there is no opposition.

 

Regarding the comparison VVP (its good to see you are reading about your history...you are one of the the more intelligent person out here is cyberland) with Jagdeo and Burnham....there are lots of difference. You have to consider the time specific era thats different and the circumstances in which they got into power. In addition, their ideology were far different. Using terms like "Jagdeo is a Coolie Burnham" makes no sense. Burnham controlled 80% of the economy, Jagdeo was practicing a more unfettered capitalism (see Clive Thomas book). ...

 

This is my little rant for tonight fellas.  

V
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Poor lady give us him so why do we not blame for that while we are in the process of blaming her for the factory. He is a vile vindictive, lying and crooked man and have no standing to make any claim about passing the blame for his terrible decisions.

why dont you people look at what the coalition is doing instead of trying to define who Jagdeo is. The PPP is not in office anymore, you dont seem to understand this.

Vish, with due respect, Jagdeo as President built the Skeldon sugar factory with US$200M. The coalition government has inherited that dud of a factory. Why shouldn't we be concerned about Jagdeo's 'legacy'? For him to now turn around and blame an innocent dead woman is wutliss to say the least. I don't think Joey Jagan will be silent on this one.

Did the PPP inherit a bankrupt nation? Did they not turn the country around? Gwan dah side.

FM

Jagdeo should be living in jail for Skeldon factory

March 31, 2015 | By | Filed Under Letters 

Dear Editor, In the Stabroek News of March 29th 2015 there is an article entitled “Sugar Industry’s problems bigger then Skeldon”. It’s the only thing in this entire report which Mr. Bharrat Jagdeo said at Freedom House on 28th March 2015, I agreed on. Like the media, Mr. Jagdeo keep harping on the Skeldon factory being a failure. Actually that is not strictly factual. The problem is that he bought a factory with a 350 ton-an-hour mill, when there was a 100-ton-a-hour mill at Skeldon and the supply of cane had to be increased from 2400 tons of cane per day to nearly 8500 tonnes per day. We had told him that it cannot be done, and it has now been established that it cannot be done. Also it seemed to have completely escaped the attention of everyone that the labour force in the industry was dwindling rapidly, since it was 28,000 in 1992 and it had dropped to 16,000 by 2001. Let’s understand this- the PPP gets their major support from the sugar and rice areasâ€Ķ they keep attacking the Opposition about anything we say about the sugar industry, since they want to keep their support in the sugar belt. How did they reduce the workforce from 28000 to 16000 in 9 years without paying one cent in severance or any other type of compensation to them? If these are the facts, and they are, then one can easily conclude that the PPP has done irreparable harm to the industry and have reduced the number of persons working in it by 57 percent in the first 10 years after they got into power. And in March of 2015, Jagdeo is telling me “what do we do? Do we get out of sugar? If we get out the entire Berbice regionâ€Ķ almost everyone will be affected so we have to find a way”. It completely escapes him that he has already gotten rid of 57% of the industry’s workforce and their families. Apparently if you are a sugar worker in Demerara, according to this statement, you are not really part of the sugar industry. Its not just a slip of the mouth, Editor, it’s the way he thinks. It seems as if Berbice is their sacred cow and the betrayals there have been just as vile as in the bauxite and rice areas. In addition, and more importantly, to begin an expansion like this given that the EU had announced that they were going to remove the subsidy of our sugar by more than 30%, starting in 2006, and we still went ahead with this foolhardy expansion project is unbelievable, I still can’t believe it. That they went out and bought the worst factory on the face of the earth is irrelevant, it would have failed even if they had bought the best factory on the planet. It was Jagdeo who decided not to buy the factory from Walchandnagar in India and instead to buy it through a Chinese contracting company which did not manufacture factories and which did not have a track record in building sugar cane mills. Mr Editor Walchandnagar Industries Limited [WIL] was going to supply the factory, turnkey, for US$35M less than the Chinese and I will insert a quote here from the Wikipedia dictionary about this company: “WIL manufactures, in  addition to sugar mills, heavy engineering products and machinery, and provides EPC and turnkey project services”. For the energy industry, WIL manufactures boilers and machinery for thermal power plants. It also provides turnkey services for setting up thermal and biomass fueled power plants. WIL also manufactures components for the nuclear power industry. The systems for the steam turbines integrated with the nuclear reactor of India’s first indigenously developed Arihant class submarines were supplied by Walchandnagar Industries. In the Aerospace sector, WIL supplies flight motor casings, nozzles, heat shields, etc. for various stages of space launch vehicles and has supplied critical components for India’s first moon mission CHANDRAYAAN-I and Intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) program, Agni V. For the defense industry, WIL supplies titanium alloy and specialized metals products, including mobile bridges, missile casings, missile launchers. WIL also provides offshore platforms, drilling rigs, etc. for oil and gas exploration and extraction”. This company told this man Jagdeo that they had built 40 of the 350-tons-per-hour sugar cane factories and expanded 40 more to that capacity and he disregarded itâ€Ķ he should not be living in a mansionâ€Ķ he should be living in prison. The newspaper article quotes him as saying he needs new varieties and increased productivity and that the industry needs to be revamped. Well, my question is who is going to revamp it? That wood he calls a board? He says that the government was prepared to work on it and support it like they did the bauxite communities. Could he be referring to the same communities which he sold out to the Russians and the Chinese? That people had to die and face bullets to get him and the PPP to see sense? I could be wrong but it is my opinion that the government just passed on the problems of the bauxite industry to private owners and not Americans and Canadians. They passed it on to the Russians and the Chinese whose poor track record with regards their work force is legendary. I will close with this stupidity from GuySuCo. On Friday, 27th March 2015, they announced that they will soon going to submit to the public a revised 2014 -2107 business plan. This is the beginning of 2015 and they already have to revise their original plan less than one year after they submitted it. This is the fourth time we have seen this 2014 plan revised. Who do these people think we are? Here is my prediction on May 11thâ€Ķthe new GuySuCo plan will be obsolete, as have all of their plans been to date, but by June 31st we will present the nation with a workable plan, which will make sense and provide security for the sugar workers. Tony Vieira

FM

The Skeldon factory and the railway scrapping; two tragic mistakes – By Freddie Kissoon

The Skeldon factory and the railway scrapping; two tragic mistakes 

AGUYSUCOUGUST 3, 2015 | BY KNEWS | FEATURES / COLUMNISTSFREDDIE KISSOON

Ruling politicians dominate every aspect of life in a nation. A politician can send a country to war and that could mark the end of that state as a viable territory. A politician can decide which industry must close and the economic consequences can be disastrous. Countless citizens of this country across political and racial lines have moaned the loss of the railway. It was a decision of the Prime Minister, Forbes Burnham.

There is no biography of Burnham so we are yet to read a detailed explanation as to why Burnham made that decision. The definitive study of Burnham in power is Tyrone Ferguson’s “To Survive Sensibly or to Court Heroic Death: Management of Guyana’s Political Economy, 1965- 1985.” 

This is a competent and superb research effort and remains a gem in Guyana’s historiography because it remains the only book on Burnham’s reign. Ferguson did not offer reason for the scrapping of the railway.

Politicians are humans just like the lay person in that they have weak points and line faults in their personality. Is it possible that Burnham experienced a bad incident on the railway when he was a boy and he decided to get rid of it now that he was Prime Minister?  Things like these shape the policies of rulers when they come to power. The most luminous example is Hitler. Looking back, we can safely say that the abolition of the railway was a huge mistake.

Bharrat Jagdeo had an ocean of research material to draw upon when he took the decision to build the Skeldon sugar factory. It was a tragic mistake. Sugar had become the nemesis of small Caribbean countries as globalization smothered the economies of poor Third World countries. It was Jagdeo and Jagdeo alone when as President argued that the Economic Partnership Agreement with the EU would undermine the CSME thus making Caricom states poorer in a globalized world where small economies could not compete with large, industrial countries.

The Skeldon factory is the largest investment in Guyanese history and it is a failure and will be a failure because sugar as a big foreign exchange earner for Guyana is dead. Globalization has killed it. Guyana has not moved out of its economic mode since George Beckford wrote in 1972, his seminal work; “Persistent Poverty: Underdevelopment in Plantation Economies of the Third World,” Guyana under Jagdeo embraced all the pitfalls of what Beckford described. Forbes Burnham had the erudition to see the sense in Beckford’s work and tried to move away from monoculture. Monoculture survived and thrived under Jagdeo.

The essential argument of Third World radical economists is that with both inferior technology and manufacturing ability, poor Third World states cannot compete with super-rich industrial countries. It was only Guyana that stayed with sugar as the Caricom states diversified.

Unless Jagdeo writes his memoirs and is honest in it, we will continue to guess why he went with Skeldon when the curtains were coming down on Caribbean sugar. There are four reasons why sugar was dying and Jagdeo should have exited the industry. First we cannot in the foreseeable future compete with countries whose sugar industries are technologically driven making then more competitive than Guyana’s. Even in family owned sugar business in Florida, cost of production is lower than in Guyana.

Secondly, global use of sugar from cane has been substantially reduced the past twenty years because of alternatives. Chocolate and soda are using sweeteners other than sugar from cane. Many sweetened products use corn syrup. In fact, many of the world top brands in soda do not carry cane sugar.

Thirdly, Governments in the industrialized world are constantly warning their citizens to reduce intake of calories to prevent the onset of weight. President Obama’s wife is in the forefront of this campaign. Fourthly as the Tate and Lyle personnel told the Guysuco Commission of Inquiry, European countries have replaced cane sugar with beet sugar. Guyana’s sugar into the European market is quickly coming to an end.

Professor Clive Thomas, the Chairman of Guysuco, sees the survival of cane sugar through the Caricom markets. Even if that is so, Guysuco will not be the large industry vital to Guyana’s economy as it was in the immediate post-colonial years. If Guysuco will survive through Caricom markets, the foreign exchange earnings will not be so exciting. The harsh reality is that the reign of sugar in the West Indies has gone the way of Test cricket in the West Indies – gone for channa (to use local lingo)ÃĐ

FM
Originally Posted by VVP:
Jagdeo needs to own up to his own mistakes.  To try to blame Janet is ludicrous.  That show you right there that he is not a good leader.  Same thing Burnham used to do...blame someone else.

And Granger govt is not doing the same? And Obama did not blame Bush for the mess in Iraq? And Reagan did not blame Carter for high inflation and lack of American credibility around the world? What is your point??  Did these people say "yes blame me"?

 

The blame game will continue....its all about how you package the information and how smart people are to believe or not believe it . 

V
Originally Posted by Jalil:

Jagdeo should be living in jail for Skeldon factory

March 31, 2015 | By | Filed Under Letters 

Dear Editor, In the Stabroek News of March 29th 2015 there is an article entitled “Sugar Industry’s problems bigger then Skeldon”. It’s the only thing in this entire report which Mr. Bharrat Jagdeo said at Freedom House on 28th March 2015, I agreed on. Like the media, Mr. Jagdeo keep harping on the Skeldon factory being a failure. Actually that is not strictly factual. The problem is that he bought a factory with a 350 ton-an-hour mill, when there was a 100-ton-a-hour mill at Skeldon and the supply of cane had to be increased from 2400 tons of cane per day to nearly 8500 tonnes per day. We had told him that it cannot be done, and it has now been established that it cannot be done. Also it seemed to have completely escaped the attention of everyone that the labour force in the industry was dwindling rapidly, since it was 28,000 in 1992 and it had dropped to 16,000 by 2001. Let’s understand this- the PPP gets their major support from the sugar and rice areasâ€Ķ they keep attacking the Opposition about anything we say about the sugar industry, since they want to keep their support in the sugar belt. How did they reduce the workforce from 28000 to 16000 in 9 years without paying one cent in severance or any other type of compensation to them? If these are the facts, and they are, then one can easily conclude that the PPP has done irreparable harm to the industry and have reduced the number of persons working in it by 57 percent in the first 10 years after they got into power. And in March of 2015, Jagdeo is telling me “what do we do? Do we get out of sugar? If we get out the entire Berbice regionâ€Ķ almost everyone will be affected so we have to find a way”. It completely escapes him that he has already gotten rid of 57% of the industry’s workforce and their families. Apparently if you are a sugar worker in Demerara, according to this statement, you are not really part of the sugar industry. Its not just a slip of the mouth, Editor, it’s the way he thinks. It seems as if Berbice is their sacred cow and the betrayals there have been just as vile as in the bauxite and rice areas. In addition, and more importantly, to begin an expansion like this given that the EU had announced that they were going to remove the subsidy of our sugar by more than 30%, starting in 2006, and we still went ahead with this foolhardy expansion project is unbelievable, I still can’t believe it. That they went out and bought the worst factory on the face of the earth is irrelevant, it would have failed even if they had bought the best factory on the planet. It was Jagdeo who decided not to buy the factory from Walchandnagar in India and instead to buy it through a Chinese contracting company which did not manufacture factories and which did not have a track record in building sugar cane mills. Mr Editor Walchandnagar Industries Limited [WIL] was going to supply the factory, turnkey, for US$35M less than the Chinese and I will insert a quote here from the Wikipedia dictionary about this company: “WIL manufactures, in  addition to sugar mills, heavy engineering products and machinery, and provides EPC and turnkey project services”. For the energy industry, WIL manufactures boilers and machinery for thermal power plants. It also provides turnkey services for setting up thermal and biomass fueled power plants. WIL also manufactures components for the nuclear power industry. The systems for the steam turbines integrated with the nuclear reactor of India’s first indigenously developed Arihant class submarines were supplied by Walchandnagar Industries. In the Aerospace sector, WIL supplies flight motor casings, nozzles, heat shields, etc. for various stages of space launch vehicles and has supplied critical components for India’s first moon mission CHANDRAYAAN-I and Intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) program, Agni V. For the defense industry, WIL supplies titanium alloy and specialized metals products, including mobile bridges, missile casings, missile launchers. WIL also provides offshore platforms, drilling rigs, etc. for oil and gas exploration and extraction”. This company told this man Jagdeo that they had built 40 of the 350-tons-per-hour sugar cane factories and expanded 40 more to that capacity and he disregarded itâ€Ķ he should not be living in a mansionâ€Ķ he should be living in prison. The newspaper article quotes him as saying he needs new varieties and increased productivity and that the industry needs to be revamped. Well, my question is who is going to revamp it? That wood he calls a board? He says that the government was prepared to work on it and support it like they did the bauxite communities. Could he be referring to the same communities which he sold out to the Russians and the Chinese? That people had to die and face bullets to get him and the PPP to see sense? I could be wrong but it is my opinion that the government just passed on the problems of the bauxite industry to private owners and not Americans and Canadians. They passed it on to the Russians and the Chinese whose poor track record with regards their work force is legendary. I will close with this stupidity from GuySuCo. On Friday, 27th March 2015, they announced that they will soon going to submit to the public a revised 2014 -2107 business plan. This is the beginning of 2015 and they already have to revise their original plan less than one year after they submitted it. This is the fourth time we have seen this 2014 plan revised. Who do these people think we are? Here is my prediction on May 11thâ€Ķthe new GuySuCo plan will be obsolete, as have all of their plans been to date, but by June 31st we will present the nation with a workable plan, which will make sense and provide security for the sugar workers. Tony Vieira

Idiotic letter

V
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by VVP:
Jagdeo needs to own up to his own mistakes.  To try to blame Janet is ludicrous.  That show you right there that he is not a good leader.  Same thing Burnham used to do...blame someone else.

And Granger govt is not doing the same?

The blame game will continue.... 

Yes and I will also blame Jagdeo for boycotting parliament, and for not acting as an effective opposition, either blocking Granger from making errors (wilfully or or), or at least letting Guyanese know that this is afoot.

 

To see Jagdeo is powerless is a laugh.  He only has one less vote in parliament, and still controls the oligarchs, who are a powerful force in Guyana.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by VVP:
Jagdeo needs to own up to his own mistakes.  To try to blame Janet is ludicrous.  That show you right there that he is not a good leader.  Same thing Burnham used to do...blame someone else.

And Granger govt is not doing the same?

The blame game will continue.... 

Yes and I will also blame Jagdeo for boycotting parliament, and for not acting as an effective opposition, either blocking Granger from making errors (wilfully or or), or at least letting Guyanese know that this is afoot.

 

To see Jagdeo is powerless is a laugh.  He only has one less vote in parliament, and still controls the oligarchs, who are a powerful force in Guyana.

I agree that they should be in Parliament. I am sure their supporters want to know what they up to...

V
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by VVP:
Jagdeo needs to own up to his own mistakes.  To try to blame Janet is ludicrous.  That show you right there that he is not a good leader.  Same thing Burnham used to do...blame someone else.

And Granger govt is not doing the same?

The blame game will continue.... 

Yes and I will also blame Jagdeo for boycotting parliament, and for not acting as an effective opposition, either blocking Granger from making errors (wilfully or or), or at least letting Guyanese know that this is afoot.

 

To see Jagdeo is powerless is a laugh.  He only has one less vote in parliament, and still controls the oligarchs, who are a powerful force in Guyana.

I agree that they should be in Parliament. I am sure their supporters want to know what they up to...

Vish

it is sad how Moses Singlehandedly

dismantled and remove

the PPP  from power.

 

It started after the 2011 Elections

when he made them

a Minority Govt....

 

First he Clip their wings

Let them Know They are

Minority in Parliament

 

 

Then they

Castrate Rohee...

 

 

Then

Moses Cut the Budget

 

 

Then came

The No Confidence Motion...

this Broke Ramotar/Jagdeo/Rohee Back..

 

 

Forced to Call Immediate Elections

Rat get Stupid....

 

 

 

Cant face the

 

People in Parliament

FM
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Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Poor lady give us him so why do we not blame for that while we are in the process of blaming her for the factory. He is a vile vindictive, lying and crooked man and have no standing to make any claim about passing the blame for his terrible decisions.

why dont you people look at what the coalition is doing instead of trying to define who Jagdeo is. The PPP is not in office anymore, you dont seem to understand this.

Vish, with due respect, Jagdeo as President built the Skeldon sugar factory with US$200M. The coalition government has inherited that dud of a factory. Why shouldn't we be concerned about Jagdeo's 'legacy'? For him to now turn around and blame an innocent dead woman is wutliss to say the least. I don't think Joey Jagan will be silent on this one.

Did the PPP inherit a bankrupt nation? Did they not turn the country around? Gwan dah side.

Dis daag look like ee ah suck egg, Skelly; ee go embarrass yuh.

FM
Originally Posted by Billy Ram Balgobin:

If this coalition gov't. cannot deliver as promised then the voters would send them packing in 2020. APNU better get a grip and start working towards to growing the economy and lifting the living standards of the people.

Billy, you are assuming that there will be free and fair elections in 2020. Don't waste the thought. APNU is in for the long haul with or without AFC.

I'm just trying to think as APNU leadership most likely would think. Let's keep our fingers crossed at this point.

FM
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Poor lady give us him so why do we not blame for that while we are in the process of blaming her for the factory. He is a vile vindictive, lying and crooked man and have no standing to make any claim about passing the blame for his terrible decisions.

why dont you people look at what the coalition is doing instead of trying to define who Jagdeo is. The PPP is not in office anymore, you dont seem to understand this.

Vish, with due respect, Jagdeo as President built the Skeldon sugar factory with US$200M. The coalition government has inherited that dud of a factory. Why shouldn't we be concerned about Jagdeo's 'legacy'? For him to now turn around and blame an innocent dead woman is wutliss to say the least. I don't think Joey Jagan will be silent on this one.

Did the PPP inherit a bankrupt nation? Did they not turn the country around? Gwan dah side.

Dis daag look like ee ah suck egg, Skelly; ee go embarrass yuh.


Gilly, dis daag ah eat bettah dan some peeple. You jealous that the dog is better looking than you?   One day I was in school and some guys were playing pool in the lunch room. One of the pool players had a German short hair in the pool room. The custodian asked th guy to get his dog out of there saying that the dog might piss in the room. The dude turned to him and said "you are more likely to piss in here than this dog".

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by Gilbakka:
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Poor lady give us him so why do we not blame for that while we are in the process of blaming her for the factory. He is a vile vindictive, lying and crooked man and have no standing to make any claim about passing the blame for his terrible decisions.

why dont you people look at what the coalition is doing instead of trying to define who Jagdeo is. The PPP is not in office anymore, you dont seem to understand this.

Vish, with due respect, Jagdeo as President built the Skeldon sugar factory with US$200M. The coalition government has inherited that dud of a factory. Why shouldn't we be concerned about Jagdeo's 'legacy'? For him to now turn around and blame an innocent dead woman is wutliss to say the least. I don't think Joey Jagan will be silent on this one.

Did the PPP inherit a bankrupt nation? Did they not turn the country around? Gwan dah side.

Dis daag look like ee ah suck egg, Skelly; ee go embarrass yuh.


Gilly, dis daag ah eat bettah dan some peeple. You jealous that the dog is better looking than you?   One day I was in school and some guys were playing pool in the lunch room. One of the pool players had a German short hair in the pool room. The custodian asked th guy to get his dog out of there saying that the dog might piss in the room. The dude turned to him and said "you are more likely to piss in here than this dog".

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

       

Poor lady give us him so why do we not blame for that while we are in the process of blaming her for the factory. He is a vile vindictive, lying and crooked man and have no standing to make any claim about passing the blame for his terrible decisions.


       

I believe what Jagdeo said is true about Janet Jagan. Dead people will take the rap and no harm done.

When you guys were insulting the Jagan's from their graves, it was ok, right?

Tell Grainger to blame Burnham for his incompetence.
FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

       

Poor lady give us him so why do we not blame for that while we are in the process of blaming her for the factory. He is a vile vindictive, lying and crooked man and have no standing to make any claim about passing the blame for his terrible decisions.


       

I believe what Jagdeo said is true about Janet Jagan. Dead people will take the rap and no harm done.

When you guys were insulting the Jagan's from their graves, it was ok, right?

Tell Grainger to blame Burnham for his incompetence.

Cobra

Blame Janet for all them

Black House of Israel Cockroach

who Infest Freedom House

after Janet Jagan dead.....

GO AHEAD

FM
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Janet Jagan should be blamed for lots of stuff.  She is the one who prevented the PPP from developing Kaieteur falls and the 'hot and cold lake' as  tourist attractions.

Yeahhh dasts it give it to the dead woman.

After yall rass bow down to dat BBB (Blonde Blue eyed *itch) now blame she rass, yessss

cain
Originally Posted by cain:
Originally Posted by Ramakant-P:

Janet Jagan should be blamed for lots of stuff.  She is the one who prevented the PPP from developing Kaieteur falls and the 'hot and cold lake' as  tourist attractions.

Yeahhh dasts it give it to the dead woman.

After yall rass bow down to dat BBB (Blonde Blue eyed *itch) now blame she rass, yessss

we are tired of blaming Burnham and the PNC who have no shame.

R

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