What? No coolie women raping in the schedule?

I musta missed that...maybe it was during Rama's tenure

Hahahahahahaha. what the hell is wrong with you?

That was done after dinner, and also before lunch outside of the mess hall.  Raping UG students was a priority.

This was a group orgy by the way.

Once a week, we marched about 10 miles up and down Linden Highway with full gear

Yeah, Ray. My cousins from berbice who went, told me something pretty much like this.

Which center was that?

SHiek...I may have forgotten some stuff...but this was the gist of it...also used to build houses and other skills work

Loo Creek

Ray that is very good....

the only thing I do not is this..

Political Ideology lecture

(more like a chance to sit down and relax)

it look like 2-3 hour

wasting time...

Well according to Rama, Nehru, cobra, and others, Burnham ordered that Indian females be raped to enforce the policy of douglarization.

That is not national service. That is political indoctrination and regimentation to condition acquiescence. I hope if National Service is re instituted, it is done as a  voluntary service and  and has enough of a lure to enter by it's rich offering of ways to gain real knowledge and serve in areas that the young person can use on a resume as beneficial workplace experience. We need biologists, geologists, historians, agriculturists ( in non traditional areas), engineers, social workers, medical specialists etc.

Now I see why Nehru didn't want to go. Pulling sentry duty at night mighta been risky.

That had to be bad as that highway in daylight would be terrible.  I thought that Kimbia was bad.

Papaya was like a cruise ship by the way.  Best of every thing.

This was not National Service. This was YSM CADRE.

I was only 16 btw...this was done during summer break from high school,,I don't remember the age requirement...but my father got me to do it (he was second in command at the center)

He was not doing me a favor, which 16 yr old want to do this stuff...but I got to like it...had some really tough days

One night, as punishment, we had to stand security whole night....

yuh know...yuh right....dat was not National Service

There was a GNS center at Loo Creek?

A new dawn is on Guyana, the youths voted for change and and here a pack of old men discussing something that failed some 40 years ago. 

YSM...I got confused

My uncle was in National Service

I know I am correct.

Dang!

My cousin told me kanawarouk was not bad either. Don't know , never been.

This is the Type of $kunt

talk that will hold Guyana Back

CaribJ

tel us about your experience...

Tell us what you can prove

I am not saying

advantage was not taken on UG Students...

Ray told us about his experience

big waste ah time...some of us used to fall asleep...then they make us stand on the chair

Our apologies. Perhaps we should accede to your superior intellect and allow you to dictate what we should or should not discuss.

Biggest Challenge

The freaking Hot SUN!!!

It's sarcasm... just not the same if you have to explain it.

You joking. I loved the sun boss... the most important thing I miss.

So, any PYO experience somebody can tell us about

Maybe Rama

Marching in 90 degree weather was not good for my skin

That was the negative model.  GNS was definitely patterned after the communist system.

However it turns out that a paramilitary model is also the best way to teach discipline, which some people need, and also to administer thousands of people under those conditions.  The extreme physical activity and the ideological brainwashing could have been left out.  In any case the brainwashing didn't work. 

I feel confident that many of those who attended became fervent WPA supporters.  Forced brainwashing never works.

Having said that, for those with enough insight, it was a wonderful way to get exposure to parts of Guyana which most Guyanese never get to. And to be exposed to the problems of the interior. 

It also forced people from very varied backgrounds to be exposed to each other as equals.  How often does the child of Gtown elite mix with the kids of people from impoverished villages like Hopetown, West Berbice?  Those who will lead a country need to have first hand exposure of the life of the average person and a full range of exposure to the very varied environments which exist.

I consider my national service experience as a net positive, despite the negative aspects.

Don't worry with Jalil.  His mother accidentally dropped him on his head when he was a baby.

How did the National Service help Guyana?

I know the Kimbia area and all along the Berbice river ( Demerara too). On a visit to Guyana in 78, I met a classmate who was doing her   NS requirement. She did not like it. She did not complain about abuse just, hard life and being away from parents.

I took her to Canada when I left. Most people did not know how easy it was to leave. Canada give you 5 weeks visa on landing at Pearson if you had a place to live and people to support you. Her name is Nalini and she stayed with my sister a few months and then got a job with   family and never went back. I know hundreds of people who did the same. My brother in law always had guyanese working for him who came and stayed. He brought out  lots in his immediate family and they were like shrimps...numerous and poor.

On that highway with that white sand 90 degrees was a cold day.  You got the sun on your head, and the heat radiated back from the sand!  Kimbia red earth was more forgiving.

Whwn national service is reintroduced we will have learned all the negatives and focus on the positives.  I mentioned the positives as I saw it.

I saw Kimbia, Tumatumari, Konawaruk, and Papaya.  All paid for by tax payers.  Eco adventure tourists pay thousands for that exposure.

Thanks to that the only part of Guyana I didn't see was the Rupununi.

Yes, it was forced indoctrination...but it like a summer camp for me...on weekends, we played cricket, soccer and volleyball...

Man, life was nice up the highway

Plus, at the end...I had my first kiss...with an AMerindian girl