ronan posted:

PPP grotesque lies and the DISHONESTY of their bacoos notwithstanding

Why would GECOM not anticipate the legal obsolescence of the present list? The fact is they failed to meet those obligations and we have an expired list and no time frame to bring it into compliance.

The constitutional requirements was that GECOM be ready at any time for the eventuality they are required to deliver a fair election within 90 days. The primary reason for their existence is to have a viable list at all times that can be tweaked to meet their 90 days window.

They are clearly not up to the task and the idea that they need 9 months lead time ( 3 times the constitutional obligation!) further emphasize their incompetence if not laziness. But we know this is all political to keep the dead weights squatting in office! 

AMEN!!  Well, they got math training from Basil and Nigel. They employed 9000 people 1 month ago to check 395000 people, that is 44 each. . Suh tell me to verify 44 people it gun tek till Dec25??? HEHEHEHEHE PNC is the world's greatest DUMMIES

Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:

PPP grotesque lies and the DISHONESTY of their bacoos notwithstanding

Why would GECOM not anticipate the legal obsolescence of the present list? The fact is they failed to meet those obligations and we have an expired list and no time frame to bring it into compliance. The constitutional requirements was that GECOM be ready at any time for the eventuality they are required to deliver fair election within 90 days. They are clearly not up to the task and the idea that they need 9 months lead time ( 3 times the constitutional obligation!) further emphasize their incompetence if not laziness. But we know this is all political to keep the dead weights squatting in office! 

GECOM was run by Surujbally until November 2017

5 months into Patterson’s tenure GECOM lobbied the Gov’t for H2H money

PPP protested and filibustered

this all culminated in NCV aimed at elections with the expiring fraud list

i ran this set of facts by the board many times

now you come again grinding with the same damn underinformed, ignorant belchings

try to keep up and take some memory pills, arite?

Ray posted:

GECOM got some lazy farts sucking Guyanese people...just like the PNC govt

The Ramotar regime was able to do so within 120 days when they faced a similar NCV possibility. Ramotar prorogued parliament to avoid the NCV but still delivered an election which was fair because he is out of office. 

The PNC has already consumed six months sitting on their hands and spouting empty rhetoric about their inability to deliver an election. They now  want another 9 months to be able to do so ( and that is tentative!). This is alone reason to vote their backsides out when any election date arrives. Abject useless people. 

ronan posted:
Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:

PPP grotesque lies and the DISHONESTY of their bacoos notwithstanding

Why would GECOM not anticipate the legal obsolescence of the present list? The fact is they failed to meet those obligations and we have an expired list and no time frame to bring it into compliance. The constitutional requirements was that GECOM be ready at any time for the eventuality they are required to deliver fair election within 90 days. They are clearly not up to the task and the idea that they need 9 months lead time ( 3 times the constitutional obligation!) further emphasize their incompetence if not laziness. But we know this is all political to keep the dead weights squatting in office! 

GECOM was run by Surujbally until November 2017

5 months into Patterson’s tenure GECOM lobbied the Gov’t for H2H money

PPP protested and filibustered

this all culminated in NCV aimed at elections with the expiring fraud list

i ran this set of facts by the board many times

now you come again grinding with the same damn underinformed, ignorant belchings

try to keep up and take some memory pills, arite?

Lets be real; Guyana's opposition party are impotent to stop anything in parliament unless they can manufacture a reason to object via the courts.  If the government wanted H2H registration finances it simply could have tabled the request and passed the allocation. They had the votes. If the were able to increase their pay why not allocate money for GECOM?

The under information here is the anemic bull crap you are trying to sell  that the PNC had their hands tied by the PPP. It is pellucid given the Guyanese constitution and how parliament is run the PNC were  de facto elected dictators. They hid away 18 million from the light of day for a year and spent it at their discretion only giving rudimentary accounting for the expense so what the hell are you telling us that GECOM had no money? The reality is if the PNC wished it they had the ability to will it.

And again, there is no fraud list except in your imagination. Repeating that such exists will not make it so. 

Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:
Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:

PPP grotesque lies and the DISHONESTY of their bacoos notwithstanding

Why would GECOM not anticipate the legal obsolescence of the present list? The fact is they failed to meet those obligations and we have an expired list and no time frame to bring it into compliance. The constitutional requirements was that GECOM be ready at any time for the eventuality they are required to deliver fair election within 90 days. They are clearly not up to the task and the idea that they need 9 months lead time ( 3 times the constitutional obligation!) further emphasize their incompetence if not laziness. But we know this is all political to keep the dead weights squatting in office! 

GECOM was run by Surujbally until November 2017

5 months into Patterson’s tenure GECOM lobbied the Gov’t for H2H money

PPP protested and filibustered

this all culminated in NCV aimed at elections with the expiring fraud list

i ran this set of facts by the board many times

now you come again grinding with the same damn underinformed, ignorant belchings

try to keep up and take some memory pills, arite?

Lets be real; Guyana's opposition party are impotent to stop anything in parliament unless they can manufacture a reason to object via the courts.  If the government wanted H2H registration finances it simply could have tabled the request and passed the allocation. They had the votes. If the were able to increase their pay why not allocate money for GECOM?

The under information here is the anemic bull crap you are trying to sell  that the PNC had their hands tied by the PPP. It is pellucid given the Guyanese constitution and how parliament is run the PNC were  de facto elected dictators. They hid away 18 million from the light of day for a year and spent it at their discretion only giving rudimentary accounting for the expense so what the hell are you telling us that GECOM had no money? The reality is if the PNC wished it they had the ability to will it.

And again, there is no fraud list except in your imagination. Repeating that such exists will not make it so. 

H2H was in train for anticipated elections in 2020

H2H could not happen in 2018 because LGE was already scheduled for the fall 

i posted the timelines (again) to rubbish your foolishness that [Patterson’s] GECOM did not “anticipate the legal obsolescence of the present list”

”PPP protested and filibustered” was not to claim a PPP power to stop the show, but to illustrate the Opposition’s bad faith that culminated in NCV with an eye to List expiry on 4/30/2019

the rest of your frenzied stream-of-consciousness farting is unworthy of my attention

If the snowster saw the CCJ NCM presentation and opinion of the judges, he would surmise the following:

Gecom has an obligation to be ready for elections in 90 days

H to H registration is not the cure all, there are other methods to clean up the list.  This includes continuous registration and an objection period. 

But we see that the snow man is in propagandist mode so will sell his soul for a few shillings. 

ronan posted:
Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:
Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:

PPP grotesque lies and the DISHONESTY of their bacoos notwithstanding

Why would GECOM not anticipate the legal obsolescence of the present list? The fact is they failed to meet those obligations and we have an expired list and no time frame to bring it into compliance. The constitutional requirements was that GECOM be ready at any time for the eventuality they are required to deliver fair election within 90 days. They are clearly not up to the task and the idea that they need 9 months lead time ( 3 times the constitutional obligation!) further emphasize their incompetence if not laziness. But we know this is all political to keep the dead weights squatting in office! 

GECOM was run by Surujbally until November 2017

5 months into Patterson’s tenure GECOM lobbied the Gov’t for H2H money

PPP protested and filibustered

this all culminated in NCV aimed at elections with the expiring fraud list

i ran this set of facts by the board many times

now you come again grinding with the same damn underinformed, ignorant belchings

try to keep up and take some memory pills, arite?

Lets be real; Guyana's opposition party are impotent to stop anything in parliament unless they can manufacture a reason to object via the courts.  If the government wanted H2H registration finances it simply could have tabled the request and passed the allocation. They had the votes. If the were able to increase their pay why not allocate money for GECOM?

The under information here is the anemic bull crap you are trying to sell  that the PNC had their hands tied by the PPP. It is pellucid given the Guyanese constitution and how parliament is run the PNC were  de facto elected dictators. They hid away 18 million from the light of day for a year and spent it at their discretion only giving rudimentary accounting for the expense so what the hell are you telling us that GECOM had no money? The reality is if the PNC wished it they had the ability to will it.

And again, there is no fraud list except in your imagination. Repeating that such exists will not make it so. 

H2H was in train for anticipated elections in 2020

H2H could not happen in 2018 because LGE was already scheduled for the fall 

i posted the timelines (again) to rubbish your foolishness that [Patterson’s] GECOM did not “anticipate the legal obsolescence of the present list”

”PPP protested and filibustered” was not to claim a PPP power to stop the show, but to illustrate the Opposition’s bad faith that culminated in NCV with an eye to List expiry on 4/30/2019

the rest of your frenzied stream-of-consciousness farting is unworthy of my attention

The constitution says that elections are due on any 90 days window so CECOM has an obligation to generate a valid election from any drop dead date. To pick and choose what clause of the constitution you will follow is unacceptable. 

Who the hell care about your time lines? The time line is the constitution directive. Both granger with his year long delay of selecting a GECOM chair and  Patterson when he was selected  squatted on the job. That is a fact. GECOM cannot deliver an election as constitutionally decreed. That is the only reality one needs to be apprised of.

Stream of consciousness scribbling is what you do...check your incoherent rantings in non standard prose for the evidence.

Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:
Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:
Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:

PPP grotesque lies and the DISHONESTY of their bacoos notwithstanding

Why would GECOM not anticipate the legal obsolescence of the present list? The fact is they failed to meet those obligations and we have an expired list and no time frame to bring it into compliance. The constitutional requirements was that GECOM be ready at any time for the eventuality they are required to deliver fair election within 90 days. They are clearly not up to the task and the idea that they need 9 months lead time ( 3 times the constitutional obligation!) further emphasize their incompetence if not laziness. But we know this is all political to keep the dead weights squatting in office! 

GECOM was run by Surujbally until November 2017

5 months into Patterson’s tenure GECOM lobbied the Gov’t for H2H money

PPP protested and filibustered

this all culminated in NCV aimed at elections with the expiring fraud list

i ran this set of facts by the board many times

now you come again grinding with the same damn underinformed, ignorant belchings

try to keep up and take some memory pills, arite?

Lets be real; Guyana's opposition party are impotent to stop anything in parliament unless they can manufacture a reason to object via the courts.  If the government wanted H2H registration finances it simply could have tabled the request and passed the allocation. They had the votes. If the were able to increase their pay why not allocate money for GECOM?

The under information here is the anemic bull crap you are trying to sell  that the PNC had their hands tied by the PPP. It is pellucid given the Guyanese constitution and how parliament is run the PNC were  de facto elected dictators. They hid away 18 million from the light of day for a year and spent it at their discretion only giving rudimentary accounting for the expense so what the hell are you telling us that GECOM had no money? The reality is if the PNC wished it they had the ability to will it.

And again, there is no fraud list except in your imagination. Repeating that such exists will not make it so. 

H2H was in train for anticipated elections in 2020

H2H could not happen in 2018 because LGE was already scheduled for the fall 

i posted the timelines (again) to rubbish your foolishness that [Patterson’s] GECOM did not “anticipate the legal obsolescence of the present list”

”PPP protested and filibustered” was not to claim a PPP power to stop the show, but to illustrate the Opposition’s bad faith that culminated in NCV with an eye to List expiry on 4/30/2019

the rest of your frenzied stream-of-consciousness farting is unworthy of my attention

The constitution says that elections are due on any 90 days window so CECOM has an obligation to generate a valid election from any drop dead date. To pick and choose what clause of the constitution you will follow is unacceptable. 

Who the hell care about your time lines? The time line is the constitution directive. Both granger with his year long delay of selecting a GECOM chair and  Patterson when he was selected  squatted on the job. That is a fact. GECOM cannot deliver an election as constitutionally decreed. That is the only reality one needs to be apprised of.

Stream of consciousness scribbling is what you do...check your incoherent rantings in non standard prose for the evidence.

banna, if you feel checkmated and want to change the subject, just say so

the CCJ, today, recognized that there was Constitutional tension between imperatives

you, obviously, are ill-prepared to fish in such waters

so, just stop embarrassing yourself

ronan posted:
 

The constitution says that elections are due on any 90 days window so CECOM has an obligation to generate a valid election from any drop dead date. To pick and choose what clause of the constitution you will follow is unacceptable. 

Who the hell care about your time lines? The time line is the constitution directive. Both granger with his year long delay of selecting a GECOM chair and  Patterson when he was selected  squatted on the job. That is a fact. GECOM cannot deliver an election as constitutionally decreed. That is the only reality one needs to be apprised of.

Stream of consciousness scribbling is what you do...check your incoherent rantings in non standard prose for the evidence.

banna, if you feel checkmated and want to change the subject, just say so

the CCJ, today, recognized that there was Constitutional tension between imperatives

you, obviously, are ill-prepared to fish in such waters

so, just stop embarrassing yourself

You can imagine how I feel all you want! I am not going to be distracted with you fiction as argumentation. The reality is as it stands; GECOM is not ready to deliver an election because it squatted on the job. We do not have a viable list because such was never a priority. Having the PNC enjoy an extended tenure in office was all that matter. Hold your breath if you think I am embarrassed. You have to be one of the biggest air head ever if you believed that. But I would surmise you are only here as an APNU shill and to plant disinformation so they look good. But nothing could make that uncreative, insipid and completely incompetent lot look good. 

If house to house registration was so important to the PNC, they should have done it just after they assumed office. Even before they awarded themselves humongous undeserved salary increases. The reality is that GECOM has to be able to hold elections within any 90 days period, no ifs, ands or buts. Laziness and incompetence are not acceptable excuses for not being ready.

ksazma posted:

Some of the people who come on GNI carrying PNC water has to be related to Kellyanne Conway. They live in their own alternate bubble with their alternate facts.

What's the description of the people who carry PPP water ? just asking !!

ronan posted:

PPP grotesque lies and the DISHONESTY of their bacoos notwithstanding

so whats your point?

The PPP is grandstanding...hoping from a rebellion within the government or outside intervention...neither will happen.

...and the coalition is occupying office  illegally...making a mockery of the fragile democracy ...while Granger continue to take a page from the Burnham playbook.

GECOM should have been in a perpetual state of readiness since they have been registering people under who attained the age of 14.

The CCJ's rulings stands...this is an illegal government, and the current Chairman should have resigned already....

But now your coalition ministers are protesting in GT and saying they dont have to respect the CCJ ruling because Guyana is a sovereign state... 

the more you defend the indefensible, and throw one liner distractions,  the more foolish you look.

ronan posted:

banna, if you feel checkmated and want to change the subject, just say so

the CCJ, today, recognized that there was Constitutional tension between imperatives

you, obviously, are ill-prepared to fish in such waters

so, just stop embarrassing yourself

Then let the CCJ sort it out and make its recommendations and lets see where this goes.

Basil, Ramjattan and Granger said they will abide by the CCJ's decisions. 

But I suspect you will still dodge the "legal" recommendation and interpretation, and argue for a "political" solution via Norway.  

VishMahabir posted:

...the coalition is occupying office  illegally...

...this is an illegal government,

the more you bray like an ignorant, UNHINGED Stepford wife

the more i smile when i recall you insisting:

". . . i [VishMahabir] don't fit the profile of the people here"

remember?

lol

Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:
Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:

GECOM was run by Surujbally until November 2017

5 months into Patterson’s tenure GECOM lobbied the Gov’t for H2H money

PPP protested and filibustered

this all culminated in NCV aimed at elections with the expiring fraud list

i ran this set of facts by the board many times

now you come again grinding with the same damn underinformed, ignorant belchings

try to keep up and take some memory pills, arite?

Lets be real; Guyana's opposition party are impotent to stop anything in parliament unless they can manufacture a reason to object via the courts.  If the government wanted H2H registration finances it simply could have tabled the request and passed the allocation. They had the votes. If the were able to increase their pay why not allocate money for GECOM?

The under information here is the anemic bull crap you are trying to sell  that the PNC had their hands tied by the PPP. It is pellucid given the Guyanese constitution and how parliament is run the PNC were  de facto elected dictators. They hid away 18 million from the light of day for a year and spent it at their discretion only giving rudimentary accounting for the expense so what the hell are you telling us that GECOM had no money? The reality is if the PNC wished it they had the ability to will it.

And again, there is no fraud list except in your imagination. Repeating that such exists will not make it so. 

H2H was in train for anticipated elections in 2020

H2H could not happen in 2018 because LGE was already scheduled for the fall 

i posted the timelines (again) to rubbish your foolishness that [Patterson’s] GECOM did not “anticipate the legal obsolescence of the present list”

”PPP protested and filibustered” was not to claim a PPP power to stop the show, but to illustrate the Opposition’s bad faith that culminated in NCV with an eye to List expiry on 4/30/2019

the rest of your frenzied stream-of-consciousness farting is unworthy of my attention

Stream of consciousness scribbling is what you do...check your incoherent rantings in non standard prose for the evidence.

yesss . . . let's "check" the evidence

i just made it easy for the board, you empty, stupid man

11 succinct, deadly, small, pointed paragraphs

not sure where you got YOUR education on "prose" and sentence construction banna . . . i doubt it was Howard U

i know many highly literate who matriculated there

lol

ksazma posted:

If house to house registration was so important to the PNC, they should have done it just after they assumed office.

nonsense . . . they couldn't

the purpose of this thread is to shove FACTS down the throat of stupids like you and force you to keep up

that you vomit the little bit of learning out and bray the SAME foolishness again and again is ultimately your own ignar affair

once more, i shove the FACTS down your diseased throat

uh huh

Stormborn posted:
Ray posted:

GECOM got some lazy farts sucking Guyanese people...just like the PNC govt

The Ramotar regime was able to do so within 120 days when they faced a similar NCV possibility.

The last H2H was in 2008.  This list is clearly older and you know Guyana well enough to know that it needs updating.  People cannot register online and no one will refresh the list to remove dead people. 

One can argue that GECOM should have begun to do this in April before the deadline but it is what it is. 

You know full well that if the PPP loses the scream is going to be "de PNC use dead people to vote".  I would think that having a fresh list, given that the last refresh was 11 years ago will be in everyone's interest.  

It is appropriate for GECOM to be advised as to how this can be done within a 60 day window as what needs to be done is to allow young voters to ensure that their names are on the list and the names of the deceased to be removed.

No worries.  Let the election go through. Let the PNC stuff the ballots of all kinds of dead people and all will be happy.  And telling young voters in PPP areas that they aren't on the list.

I already hear the screams if that happens.  I would think that a fresh list would reduce that but others think otherwise.

NYC there is NOT a process of continuous registration.  EVERY election people show up and are told that they cannot vote and must file an affidavit, which may or may not be counted.

So please tell me why anyone thinks that Guyana, where getting your birth certificate is an immense project, has the mechanisms for continuous registration.  It does NOT happen.

I don’t know why you are all taking Ronan on. The man or woman or whoever it is is looking for attention. He is one person who is capable of writing posts and responding to them. He creates mischief and . He is blinded by the truth and is unworthy of being called a human being. He likes when the PNC showers him a buckets of piss daily.

 

Dondadda posted:

I don’t know why you are all taking Ronan on. The man or woman or whoever it is is looking for attention. He is one person who is capable of writing posts and responding to them. He creates mischief and . He is blinded by the truth and is unworthy of being called a human being. He likes when the PNC showers him a buckets of piss daily.

 

Their constant moaning and groaning is their desperate attempt to lend aid to the illegal behavior of the PNC. Now it is everyone else fault that the PNC and their supporters are lazy, incompetent and wicked.

caribny posted:
Stormborn posted:
Ray posted:

GECOM got some lazy farts sucking Guyanese people...just like the PNC govt

The Ramotar regime was able to do so within 120 days when they faced a similar NCV possibility.

The last H2H was in 2008.  This list is clearly older and you know Guyana well enough to know that it needs updating.  People cannot register online and no one will refresh the list to remove dead people. 

One can argue that GECOM should have begun to do this in April before the deadline but it is what it is. 

You know full well that if the PPP loses the scream is going to be "de PNC use dead people to vote".  I would think that having a fresh list, given that the last refresh was 11 years ago will be in everyone's interest.  

It is appropriate for GECOM to be advised as to how this can be done within a 60 day window as what needs to be done is to allow young voters to ensure that their names are on the list and the names of the deceased to be removed.

So what was GECOM doing all these years? Is "continuous registration" a process where party boys are paid to do nothing? Who dropped the ball here? Maybe PNC can call in SOCU to investigate all the members of GECOM.

ronan posted:
Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:
Stormborn posted:
ronan posted:

GECOM was run by Surujbally until November 2017

5 months into Patterson’s tenure GECOM lobbied the Gov’t for H2H money

PPP protested and filibustered

this all culminated in NCV aimed at elections with the expiring fraud list

i ran this set of facts by the board many times

now you come again grinding with the same damn underinformed, ignorant belchings

try to keep up and take some memory pills, arite?

Lets be real; Guyana's opposition party are impotent to stop anything in parliament unless they can manufacture a reason to object via the courts.  If the government wanted H2H registration finances it simply could have tabled the request and passed the allocation. They had the votes. If the were able to increase their pay why not allocate money for GECOM?

The under information here is the anemic bull crap you are trying to sell  that the PNC had their hands tied by the PPP. It is pellucid given the Guyanese constitution and how parliament is run the PNC were  de facto elected dictators. They hid away 18 million from the light of day for a year and spent it at their discretion only giving rudimentary accounting for the expense so what the hell are you telling us that GECOM had no money? The reality is if the PNC wished it they had the ability to will it.

And again, there is no fraud list except in your imagination. Repeating that such exists will not make it so. 

H2H was in train for anticipated elections in 2020

H2H could not happen in 2018 because LGE was already scheduled for the fall 

i posted the timelines (again) to rubbish your foolishness that [Patterson’s] GECOM did not “anticipate the legal obsolescence of the present list”

”PPP protested and filibustered” was not to claim a PPP power to stop the show, but to illustrate the Opposition’s bad faith that culminated in NCV with an eye to List expiry on 4/30/2019

the rest of your frenzied stream-of-consciousness farting is unworthy of my attention

Stream of consciousness scribbling is what you do...check your incoherent rantings in non standard prose for the evidence.

yesss . . . let's "check" the evidence

i just made it easy for the board, you empty, stupid man

11 succinct, deadly, small, pointed paragraphs

not sure where you got YOUR education on "prose" and sentence construction banna . . . i doubt it was Howard U

i know many highly literate who matriculated there

lol

For a stickler to the constitution when it suits you you have a hard head understanding its directive that elections must be held within any ninety days from any drop dead date. That this has not happened and escuses such as the list is outdated is spurious. It means someone is failing at their job. 

Your list above is simply a list of your excuses. And compare to you, my writing is as with a 3 grader. All you do is rant about your head size and your intellectual prowess and post stupid excuses as reasoning why an integral part of our democracy has failed. 

caribny posted:
Stormborn posted:
Ray posted:

GECOM got some lazy farts sucking Guyanese people...just like the PNC govt

The Ramotar regime was able to do so within 120 days when they faced a similar NCV possibility.

The last H2H was in 2008.  This list is clearly older and you know Guyana well enough to know that it needs updating.  People cannot register online and no one will refresh the list to remove dead people. 

One can argue that GECOM should have begun to do this in April before the deadline but it is what it is. 

You know full well that if the PPP loses the scream is going to be "de PNC use dead people to vote".  I would think that having a fresh list, given that the last refresh was 11 years ago will be in everyone's interest.  

It is appropriate for GECOM to be advised as to how this can be done within a 60 day window as what needs to be done is to allow young voters to ensure that their names are on the list and the names of the deceased to be removed.

Lets get this straight. Only stupid people throw away their database periodically and start over. H2H should be confirmation of data already held and a purge of what is extraneous. It is simply a matter of a query to the system and a print our of a list for the canvasser to check, verify, add, delete and send back the updated data to the registration office.

These days, with the advent of cheap tablets each canvasser can have the geodata at their fingertips so the ultimate collections are directly inputed into a shape file so anyone can statistically point to random buildings and do spot check for accuracy.

THe PPP screaming dead people vote in the LFSB era is correct. There is a bbc documentary on that particular claim and how wide spread it was. 

The present croaking of the PNC about bloated list is purely political. The number of excess voters they claim exist on it is also pulled out of a hat. No viable statistical evidence exist to rationalize such figures. Note, it is the same list that brought the present government into office some 4 years ago.

Yes we need to clean the list but one starts with the one we  have, send out canvassers to homes mapped on the ground and tag them with the names of people living there. That is how any computer person would do it or any statistician worth their salt would advise. 

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