History of rice cultivation

Oryza sativa was domesticated from the wild grass Oryza rufipogon roughly 10,000–14,000 years ago. The two main subspecies of rice – indica (prevalent in tropical regions) and japonica (prevalent in the subtropical and temperate regions of East Asia) – are not believed to have been derived from independent domestication events. Another cultivated species, O. glaberrima, was domesticated much later in West Africa.

Recent genetic evidence show that all forms of Asian rice, both indica and japonica, come from a single domestication event that occurred 8,200–13,500 years ago in the Pearl River valley region of China.

In China, extensive archeological evidence points to the middle Yangtze and upper Huai rivers as the two earliest places of O. sativa cultivation in the country. Rice and farming implements dating back at least 8,000 years have been found. Cultivation spread down these rivers over the following 2,000 years. 

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Puddling the soil – turning it to mud to break it down and prevent too much water percolating away – and transplanting seedlings were likely refined in China. Both operations became integral parts of rice farming and remain widely practiced to this day. With the development of puddling and transplanting, rice became truly domesticated. 

Movement to western India and south to Sri Lanka was also accomplished very early. Rice was a major crop in Sri Lanka as early as 1000 B.C. The crop may well have been introduced to Greece and the neighboring areas of the Mediterranean by returning members of Alexander the Great’s expedition to India around 344-324 B.C. From a center in Greece and Sicily, rice spread gradually throughout southern Europe and to a few locations in northern Africa. 

As a result of Europe’s great Age of Exploration, new lands to the west became available for exploitation. Rice cultivation was introduced to the New World by early European settlers. The Portuguese carried it to Brazil and the Spanish introduced its cultivation to several locations in Central and South America. The first record for North America dates from 1685, when the crop was produced on the coastal lowlands and islands of what is now South Carolina. It is thought that slaves from West Africa who were transported to the Carolinas in the mid-18th century introduced the complex agricultural technology needed to grow rice. Their labor then insured a flourishing rice industry. By the 20th century, rice was produced in California’s Sacramento Valley. The introduction into California corresponded almost exactly with the timing of the first successful crop in Australia’s New South Wales. 

Regional development of rice cultivation

Asia

history-of-rice-cultivation4Based on archeological evidence, rice was believed to have first been domesticated in the region of the Yangtze River valley in China. Morphological studies of rice phytoliths from the Diaotonghuan archaeological site clearly show the transition from the collection of wild rice to the cultivation of domesticated rice. The large number of wild rice phytoliths at the Diaotonghuan level dating from 12,000–11,000 BP indicates that wild rice collection was part of the local means of subsistence. Changes in the morphology of Diaotonghuan phytoliths dating from 10,000–8,000 BP show that rice had by this time been domesticated.[28] Soon afterwards the two major varieties of indica and japonica rice were being grown in Central China. In the late 3rd millennium BC, there was a rapid expansion of rice cultivation into mainland Southeast Asia and westwards across India and Nepal.

In 2003, Korean archaeologists claimed to have discovered the world's oldest domesticated rice. Their 15,000 year old age challenges the accepted view that rice cultivation originated in China about 12,000 years ago. These findings were received by academia with strong skepticism, and the results and their publicizing has been cited as being driven by a combination of nationalist and regional interests.In 2011, a combined effort by the Stanford University, New York University, Washington University in St. Louis, and Purdue University has provided the strongest evidence yet that there is only one single origin of domesticated rice, in the Yangtze Valley of China.

The earliest remains of the grain in the Indian subcontinent have been found in the Indo-Gangetic Plain and date from 7000–6000 BC though the earliest widely accepted date for cultivated rice is placed at around 3000–2500 BC with findings in regions belonging to the Indus Valley Civilization. Perennial wild rices still grow in Assam and Nepal. It seems to have appeared around 1400 BC in southern India after its domestication in the northern plains. It then spread to all the fertile alluvial plains watered by rivers. Cultivation and cooking methods are thought to have spread to the west rapidly and by medieval times, southern Europe saw the introduction of rice as a hearty grain.

O. sativa was recovered from a grave at Susa in Iran (dated to the 1st century AD) at one end of the ancient world, another domestication of rice in South Asia.

Today, the majority of all rice produced comes from China, India, Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Thailand, Myanmar, Philippines, and Japan. Asian farmers still account for 92% of the world's total rice production.

Africa

history-of-rice-cultivation5African rice has been cultivated for 3500 years. Between 1500 and 800 BC, Oryza glaberrima propagated from its original centre, the Niger River delta, and extended to Senegal. However, it never developed far from its original region. Its cultivation even declined in favour of the Asian species, which was introduced to East Africa early in the common era and spread westward. African rice helped Africa conquer its famine of 1203.

Rest of the world

Middle East

Rice was grown in some areas of southern Iraq. With the rise of Islam it moved north to Nisibin, the southern shores of the Caspian Sea and then beyond the Muslim world into the valley of Volga. In Egypt, rice is mainly grown in the Nile Delta. In Palestine, rice came to be grown in the Jordan Valley. Rice is also grown in Yemen.

Europe

The Moors brought Asiatic rice to the Iberian Peninsula in the 10th century. Records indicate it was grown in Valencia and Majorca. In Majorca, rice cultivation seems to have stopped after the Christian conquest, although historians are not certain.

Muslims also brought rice to Sicily, where it was an important crop long before it is noted in the plain of Pisa (1468) or in the Lombard plain (1475), where its cultivation was promoted by Ludovico Sforza, Duke of Milan, and demonstrated in his model farms.

After the 15th century, rice spread throughout Italy and then France, later propagating to all the continents during the age of European exploration.The Ottomans introduced rice to the Balkans.

Caribbean and Latin America

Rice is not native to the Americas but was introduced to Latin America and the Caribbean by European colonizers at an early date with Spanish colonizers introducing Asian rice to Mexico in the 1520s at Veracruz and the Portuguese and their African slaves introducing it at about the same time to Colonial Brazil. Recent scholarship suggests that enslaved Africans played an active role in the establishment of rice in the New World and that African rice was an important crop from an early period. Varieties of rice and bean dishes that were a staple dish along the peoples of West Africa remained a staple among their descendants subjected to slavery in the Spanish New World colonies, Brazil and elsewhere in the Americas.

The Native Americans of what is now the Eastern United States may have practiced extensive agriculture with forms of wild rice. (References to wild rice in the Americas are to the unrelated Zizania palustris.)

United States

In the United States, colonial South Carolina and Georgia grew and amassed great wealth from the Slavery labor obtained from the Senegambia area of West Africa and from coastal Sierra Leone. At the port of Charleston, through which 40% of all American slave imports passed, slaves from this region of Africa brought the highest prices, in recognition of their prior knowledge of rice culture, which was put to use on the many rice plantations around Georgetown, Charleston, and Savannah. From the enslaved Africans, plantation owners learned how to dyke the marshes and periodically flood the fields. At first the rice was milled by hand with wooden paddles, then winnowed in sweetgrass baskets (the making of which was another skill brought by slaves from Africa). The invention of the rice mill increased profitability of the crop, and the addition of water power for the mills in 1787 by millwright Jonathan Lucas was another step forward. Rice culture in the southeastern U.S. became less profitable with the loss of slave labor after the American Civil War, and it finally died out just after the turn of the 20th century. Today, people can visit the only remaining rice plantation in South Carolina that still has the original winnowing barn and rice mill from the mid-19th century at the historic Mansfield Plantation in Georgetown, South Carolina. The predominant strain of rice in the Carolinas was from Africa and was known as "Carolina Gold." The cultivar has been preserved and there are current attempts to reintroduce it as a commercially grown crop.

In the southern United States, rice has been grown in southern Arkansas, Louisiana, and east Texas since the mid-19th century. Many Cajun farmers grew rice in wet marshes and low lying prairies where they could also farm crayfish when the fields were flooded. In recent years rice production has risen in North America, especially in the Mississippi River Delta areas in the states of Arkansas and Mississippi.

Rice cultivation began in California during the California Gold Rush, when an estimated 40,000 Chinese laborers immigrated to the state and grew small amounts of the grain for their own consumption. However, commercial production began only in 1912 in the town of Richvale in Butte County. By 2006, California produced the second largest rice crop in the United States, after Arkansas, with production concentrated in six counties north of Sacramento. Unlike the Mississippi Delta region, California's production is dominated by short- and medium-grain japonica varieties, including cultivars developed for the local climate such as Calrose, which makes up as much as 85% of the state's crop.

More than 100 varieties of rice are commercially produced primarily in six states (Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, and California) in the U.S. According to estimates for the 2006 crop year, rice production in the U.S. is valued at $1.88 billion, approximately half of which is expected to be exported. The U.S. provides about 12% of world rice trade. The majority of domestic utilization of U.S. rice is direct food use (58%), while 16% is used in each of processed foods and beer. The remaining 10% is found in pet food.

Australia

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Rice was one of the earliest crops planted in Australia by British settlers, who had experience with rice plantations in the Americas and the subcontinent.

Although attempts to grow rice in the well-watered north of Australia have been made for many years, they have consistently failed because of inherent iron and manganese toxicities in the soils and destruction by pests.

In the 1920s it was seen as a possible irrigation crop on soils within the Murray-Darling Basin that were too heavy for the cultivation of fruit and too infertile for wheat.

Because irrigation water, despite the extremely low runoff of temperate Australia, was (and remains) very cheap, the growing of rice was taken up by agricultural groups over the following decades. Californian varieties of rice were found suitable for the climate in the Riverina, and the first mill opened at Leeton in 1951.

Even before this Australia's rice production greatly exceeded local needs, and rice exports to Japan have become a major source of foreign currency. Above-average rainfall from the 1950s to the middle 1990s encouraged the expansion of the Riverina rice industry, but its prodigious water use in a practically waterless region began to attract the attention of environmental scientists. These became severely concerned with declining flow in the Snowy River and the lower Murray River.

Although rice growing in Australia is highly profitable due to the cheapness of land, several recent years of severe drought have led many to call for its elimination because of its effects on extremely fragile aquatic ecosystems. The Australian rice industry is somewhat opportunistic, with the area planted varying significantly from season to season depending on water allocations in the Murray and Murrumbidgee irrigation regions.

 http://ricepedia.org/culture/h...-of-rice-cultivation

Original Post

Africa

African rice has been cultivated for 3500 years. Between 1500 and 800 BC, Oryza glaberrima propagated from its original centre, the Niger River delta, and extended to Senegal. However, it never developed far from its original region. Its cultivation even declined in favour of the Asian species, which was introduced to East Africa early in the common era and spread westward. African rice helped Africa conquer its famine of 1203.

United States

In the United States, colonial South Carolina and Georgia grew and amassed great wealth from the Slavery labor obtained from the Senegambia area of West Africa and from coastal Sierra Leone. At the port of Charleston, through which 40% of all American slave imports passed, slaves from this region of Africa brought the highest prices, in recognition of their prior knowledge of rice culture, which was put to use on the many rice plantations around Georgetown, Charleston, and Savannah. From the enslaved Africans, plantation owners learned how to dyke the marshes and periodically flood the fields. At first the rice was milled by hand with wooden paddles, then winnowed in sweetgrass baskets (the making of which was another skill brought by slaves from Africa).


 

 Read the two paragraphs  above.

If alyuh take time to read how "Cookup rice"  came about and the link to Africa,the origin of rice  will be settled.

Also take some notes how rice plantation started in Guyana.

Drugb posted:

I had to school d2 on the origin of rice. I think he has learnt his lesson, no need to keep rubbing it in. But I see the slopster still hold on to his erroneous position. 

Shitposter, still trying to save face ,the plagiarizing didn't help. Thumping your chest about schooling.

Django posted:
Drugb posted:

I had to school d2 on the origin of rice. I think he has learnt his lesson, no need to keep rubbing it in. But I see the slopster still hold on to his erroneous position. 

Shitposter, still trying to save face ,the plagiarizing didn't help. Thumping your chest about schooling.

Bannas like you looking for a good banning. Quit with the name calling before I set Ray pun yuh rass. You run to ray the other day and get me banned, now you provoking me again. 

yuji22 posted:

History of rice cultivation

 

Caribbean and Latin America

Rice is not native to the Americas but was introduced to Latin America and the Caribbean by European colonizers at an early date with Spanish colonizers introducing Asian rice to Mexico in the 1520s at Veracruz and the Portuguese and their African slaves introducing it at about the same time to Colonial Brazil. Recent scholarship suggests that enslaved Africans played an active role in the establishment of rice in the New World and that African rice was an important crop from an early period. Varieties of rice and bean dishes that were a staple dish along the peoples of West Africa remained a staple among their descendants subjected to slavery in the Spanish New World colonies, Brazil and elsewhere in the Americas.

The Native Americans of what is now the Eastern United States may have practiced extensive agriculture with forms of wild rice. (References to wild rice in the Americas are to the unrelated Zizania palustris.)

United States

In the United States, colonial South Carolina and Georgia grew and amassed great wealth from the Slavery labor obtained from the Senegambia area of West Africa and from coastal Sierra Leone. At the port of Charleston, through which 40% of all American slave imports passed, slaves from this region of Africa brought the highest prices, in recognition of their prior knowledge of rice culture, which was put to use on the many rice plantations around Georgetown, Charleston, and Savannah. From the enslaved Africans, plantation owners learned how to dyke the marshes and periodically flood the fields. At first the rice was milled by hand with wooden paddles, then winnowed in sweetgrass baskets (the making of which was another skill brought by slaves from Africa).

 http://ricepedia.org/culture/h...-of-rice-cultivation

Druggie just got a mental breakdown as he is trying to peddle that black people knew nothing about rice until 1838 when the first Indians arrived.

Drugb posted:

I had to school d2 on the origin of rice.

School who.

1.  African rice had NOTHING to do with Chinese rice.

2.  The first rice cultivators in much of the Americas were Africans.

3. Their knowledge in rice cultivation was much prized by rice plantation owners in South Carolina. 

Drugb posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:

I had to school d2 on the origin of rice. I think he has learnt his lesson, no need to keep rubbing it in. But I see the slopster still hold on to his erroneous position. 

Shitposter, still trying to save face ,the plagiarizing didn't help. Thumping your chest about schooling.

Bannas like you looking for a good banning. Quit with the name calling before I set Ray pun yuh rass. You run to ray the other day and get me banned, now you provoking me again. 

Inform him,you are free to do that, didn't run to Ray you dreaming.

 

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caribny posted:
Druggie just got a mental breakdown as he is trying to peddle that black people knew nothing about rice until 1838 when the first Indians arrived.

More specifically, the Guyanese Blacks. They brought fufu with them from Africa, not cookup. In fact they were failures at rice cultivation, it was the IndoGs who took it to another level and made it commercially viable. 

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

I had to school d2 on the origin of rice.

School who.

1.  African rice had NOTHING to do with Chinese rice.

2.  The first rice cultivators in much of the Americas were Africans.

3. Their knowledge in rice cultivation was much prized by rice plantation owners in South Carolina. 

That banna don't understand the points, trying all sorts of stuff to save face.

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Druggie just got a mental breakdown as he is trying to peddle that black people knew nothing about rice until 1838 when the first Indians arrived.

More specifically, the Guyanese Blacks. They brought fufu with them from Africa, not cookup. In fact they were failures at rice cultivation, it was the IndoGs who took it to another level and made it commercially viable. 

LOL,

Banna you don't know Guyana history, here is little tit-bit, Non-returning Indentured East Indians got lands at Land Settlements Schemes,from then on rice production increased.

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Druggie just got a mental breakdown as he is trying to peddle that black people knew nothing about rice until 1838 when the first Indians arrived.

More specifically, the Guyanese Blacks. They brought fufu with them from Africa, not cookup. In fact they were failures at rice cultivation, it was the IndoGs who took it to another level and made it commercially viable. 

Druggie why don't you give up.  Depending on the region of Africa they came from they brought BOTH fufu and rice.

Are you suggesting that Indians only eat roti, so any other food product cannot be connected to them?

Please tell me why Africans went elsewhere in the Americas and developed rice dishes and not in Guyana?  The fact that ultimately they didn't become big rice farmers is another project.  Rice cultivation was always a subsistence crop for them. 

You do know the lengths that the planter class went to ensure that the village communities failed.  Just as the same people ensured that Indians were kept away from rudimentary education by making it difficult for non Christian groups to open schools.  The result being that you are a DUNCE.

Django posted:
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Druggie just got a mental breakdown as he is trying to peddle that black people knew nothing about rice until 1838 when the first Indians arrived.

More specifically, the Guyanese Blacks. They brought fufu with them from Africa, not cookup. In fact they were failures at rice cultivation, it was the IndoGs who took it to another level and made it commercially viable. 

LOL,

Banna you don't know Guyana history, here is little tit-bit, Non-returning Indentured East Indians got lands at Land Settlements,from then on rice planting increased.

In fact Indian involvement in farming was encouraged. Similar attempts by blacks were destroyed because the colonial authorities feared the rise of a prosperous business and property owning class of blacks.

Django posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

I had to school d2 on the origin of rice.

School who.

1.  African rice had NOTHING to do with Chinese rice.

2.  The first rice cultivators in much of the Americas were Africans.

3. Their knowledge in rice cultivation was much prized by rice plantation owners in South Carolina. 

That banna don't understand the points, trying all sorts of stuff to save face.

No he is merely undergoing his usual manic episodes whenever he cannot prove that blacks are failures.  RH is full of Guyanese stores accepting food stamps and yet he thinks that all Guyanese Indians are prosperous.

Rice and peas/beans dishes are popular in the Americas wherever blacks arrived and are also in Guyana.  Yet he screams that all Guyanese blacks did was eat fufu.

caribny posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Druggie just got a mental breakdown as he is trying to peddle that black people knew nothing about rice until 1838 when the first Indians arrived.

More specifically, the Guyanese Blacks. They brought fufu with them from Africa, not cookup. In fact they were failures at rice cultivation, it was the IndoGs who took it to another level and made it commercially viable. 

LOL,

Banna you don't know Guyana history, here is little tit-bit, Non-returning Indentured East Indians got lands at Land Settlements,from then on rice planting increased.

In fact Indian involvement in farming was encouraged. Similar attempts by blacks were destroyed because the colonial authorities feared the rise of a prosperous business and property owning class of blacks.

Exactly, after freedom they were hindered from progressing, simply if they progressed where will the labor come from.

One of the reasons Indentured Labor started.

caribny posted:
Druggie why don't you give up.  Depending on the region of Africa they came from they brought BOTH fufu and rice. Are you suggesting that Indians only eat roti, so any other food product cannot be connected to them? Please tell me why Africans went elsewhere in the Americas and developed rice dishes and not in Guyana?  The fact that ultimately they didn't become big rice farmers is another project.  Rice cultivation was always a subsistence crop for them. You do know the lengths that the planter class went to ensure that the village communities failed.  Just as the same people ensured that Indians were kept away from rudimentary education by making it difficult for non Christian groups to open schools.  The result being that you are a DUNCE.

You of all people should know that Blacks came as slaves, they were captured and didn't have time to pack a doggie bag, sorry. So no rice seeds. In fact the slavers brought the ground provisions to cultivate as this was the diet that Afros had at that point in time. The African rice that slop boy and sakiwinki refers was more of an exclusive crop and not widespread. Ground provision was more popular as it provided a greater nutritional bang for the bucks.  

caribny posted:

Rice and peas/beans dishes are popular in the Americas wherever blacks arrived and are also in Guyana.  Yet he screams that all Guyanese blacks did was eat fufu.

You are really living in an alternate universe. Look around you, even the same one agreeing with you made sure that they live in non black neighborhoods.   Ask d2, django, tola and others where they live and if they answer truthfully you will note that their areas are devoid of blacks like you.  They only come here and give you lip service and then go home to their white neighbors. 

Yes it is documented that the Guyanese Blacks diet was whatever the slave masters provided, rice was not part of it originally, even though later on the slavers tried to introduce rice production to supplement.

Look at this site and do a find on rice, not 1 hit. Now go argue with the people at liverpool museums. 

 

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.or...bean/caribbean2.aspx

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Druggie why don't you give up.  Depending on the region of Africa they came from they brought BOTH fufu and rice. Are you suggesting that Indians only eat roti, so any other food product cannot be connected to them? Please tell me why Africans went elsewhere in the Americas and developed rice dishes and not in Guyana?  The fact that ultimately they didn't become big rice farmers is another project.  Rice cultivation was always a subsistence crop for them. You do know the lengths that the planter class went to ensure that the village communities failed.  Just as the same people ensured that Indians were kept away from rudimentary education by making it difficult for non Christian groups to open schools.  The result being that you are a DUNCE.

You of all people should know that Blacks came as slaves, they were captured and didn't have time to pack a doggie bag, sorry. So no rice seeds. In fact the slavers brought the ground provisions to cultivate as this was the diet that Afros had at that point in time. The African rice that slop boy and sakiwinki refers was more of an exclusive crop and not widespread. Ground provision was more popular as it provided a greater nutritional bang for the bucks.  

Still prancing with shittypost.

Django posted:
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Druggie why don't you give up.  Depending on the region of Africa they came from they brought BOTH fufu and rice. Are you suggesting that Indians only eat roti, so any other food product cannot be connected to them? Please tell me why Africans went elsewhere in the Americas and developed rice dishes and not in Guyana?  The fact that ultimately they didn't become big rice farmers is another project.  Rice cultivation was always a subsistence crop for them. You do know the lengths that the planter class went to ensure that the village communities failed.  Just as the same people ensured that Indians were kept away from rudimentary education by making it difficult for non Christian groups to open schools.  The result being that you are a DUNCE.

You of all people should know that Blacks came as slaves, they were captured and didn't have time to pack a doggie bag, sorry. So no rice seeds. In fact the slavers brought the ground provisions to cultivate as this was the diet that Afros had at that point in time. The African rice that slop boy and sakiwinki refers was more of an exclusive crop and not widespread. Ground provision was more popular as it provided a greater nutritional bang for the bucks.  

Still prancing with shittypost.

Bannas, when you go in a rumshop, yuh does notice that rum bottle on one shelf and soda on another shelf? Stick to your shelf and let big men converse on matters beyond your limited schooling. 

Drugb posted:
 

You of all people should know that Blacks came as slaves, they were captured and didn't have time to pack a doggie bag, .  

So how do you think all of those African root vegetables reached the Americas.  More intelligent people than you in a post of yours revealed that much of the rice grown in South Carolina was of the African variety.

The thing is you bring up posts that undermine your argument and yet still scream.

What's wrong with you?

Drugb posted:
 

Yes it is documented that the Guyanese Blacks diet was whatever the slave masters provided, rice was not part of it originally, even though later on the slavers tried to introduce rice production to supplement.

Look at this site and do a find on rice, not 1 hit. Now go argue with the people at liverpool museums. 

 

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.or...bean/caribbean2.aspx

 

Brazilians eat rice. Jamaicans eat rice. Cubans eat rice. Haitians eat rice as do blacks in the southern states. NONE of those places had Asian populations when rice consumption became a fact of life.

Do you know that St Kitts Nevis has a dish called cook up rice? 

 

Just now you will scream that Indians  brought cook up rice to Guyana and St Kitts.  When I went to the Music Festival there years ago I had a delicious pig tail and pigeon peas cook up.

Some of them might even think that Indians only began to eat rice when they came to the Caribbean because just as your ignorant ass thinks that all blacks eat is fufu I bet that some of them think that all Indians eat is roti,

caribny posted:
yuji22 posted:

History of rice cultivation

 

Caribbean and Latin America

Rice is not native to the Americas but was introduced to Latin America and the Caribbean by European colonizers at an early date with Spanish colonizers introducing Asian rice to Mexico in the 1520s at Veracruz and the Portuguese and their African slaves introducing it at about the same time to Colonial Brazil. Recent scholarship suggests that enslaved Africans played an active role in the establishment of rice in the New World and that African rice was an important crop from an early period. Varieties of rice and bean dishes that were a staple dish along the peoples of West Africa remained a staple among their descendants subjected to slavery in the Spanish New World colonies, Brazil and elsewhere in the Americas.

The Native Americans of what is now the Eastern United States may have practiced extensive agriculture with forms of wild rice. (References to wild rice in the Americas are to the unrelated Zizania palustris.)

United States

In the United States, colonial South Carolina and Georgia grew and amassed great wealth from the Slavery labor obtained from the Senegambia area of West Africa and from coastal Sierra Leone. At the port of Charleston, through which 40% of all American slave imports passed, slaves from this region of Africa brought the highest prices, in recognition of their prior knowledge of rice culture, which was put to use on the many rice plantations around Georgetown, Charleston, and Savannah. From the enslaved Africans, plantation owners learned how to dyke the marshes and periodically flood the fields. At first the rice was milled by hand with wooden paddles, then winnowed in sweetgrass baskets (the making of which was another skill brought by slaves from Africa).

 http://ricepedia.org/culture/h...-of-rice-cultivation

Druggie just got a mental breakdown as he is trying to peddle that black people knew nothing about rice until 1838 when the first Indians arrived.

It is possible that Druggie is blind and not stupid.   This is from one of our fellow Indo KKK.

caribny posted:
caribny posted:
yuji22 posted:

History of rice cultivation

 

Caribbean and Latin America

Rice is not native to the Americas but was introduced to Latin America and the Caribbean by European colonizers at an early date with Spanish colonizers introducing Asian rice to Mexico in the 1520s at Veracruz and the Portuguese and their African slaves introducing it at about the same time to Colonial Brazil. Recent scholarship suggests that enslaved Africans played an active role in the establishment of rice in the New World and that African rice was an important crop from an early period. Varieties of rice and bean dishes that were a staple dish along the peoples of West Africa remained a staple among their descendants subjected to slavery in the Spanish New World colonies, Brazil and elsewhere in the Americas.

The Native Americans of what is now the Eastern United States may have practiced extensive agriculture with forms of wild rice. (References to wild rice in the Americas are to the unrelated Zizania palustris.)

United States

In the United States, colonial South Carolina and Georgia grew and amassed great wealth from the Slavery labor obtained from the Senegambia area of West Africa and from coastal Sierra Leone. At the port of Charleston, through which 40% of all American slave imports passed, slaves from this region of Africa brought the highest prices, in recognition of their prior knowledge of rice culture, which was put to use on the many rice plantations around Georgetown, Charleston, and Savannah. From the enslaved Africans, plantation owners learned how to dyke the marshes and periodically flood the fields. At first the rice was milled by hand with wooden paddles, then winnowed in sweetgrass baskets (the making of which was another skill brought by slaves from Africa).

 http://ricepedia.org/culture/h...-of-rice-cultivation

Druggie just got a mental breakdown as he is trying to peddle that black people knew nothing about rice until 1838 when the first Indians arrived.

It is possible that Druggie is blind and not stupid.   This is from one of our fellow Indo KKK.

The afros in the new world only learnt of rice cultivation at the behest of their masters and the end of a whip. Their involvement in its cultivation was merely laborers fulfilling their masters instructions. 

caribny posted:
So how do you think all of those African root vegetables reached the Americas.  More intelligent people than you in a post of yours revealed that much of the rice grown in South Carolina was of the African variety.

The thing is you bring up posts that undermine your argument and yet still scream.

What's wrong with you?

It was common practice for the slave masters to bring along indigenous foods of their captives as part of nutritional planning. 

caribny posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Druggie just got a mental breakdown as he is trying to peddle that black people knew nothing about rice until 1838 when the first Indians arrived.

More specifically, the Guyanese Blacks. They brought fufu with them from Africa, not cookup. In fact they were failures at rice cultivation, it was the IndoGs who took it to another level and made it commercially viable. 

LOL,

Banna you don't know Guyana history, here is little tit-bit, Non-returning Indentured East Indians got lands at Land Settlements,from then on rice planting increased.

In fact Indian involvement in farming was encouraged. Similar attempts by blacks were destroyed because the colonial authorities feared the rise of a prosperous business and property owning class of blacks.

The black slaves were given parcels of land after emancipation , many feared working the land and ran away, some sold the land to the indentured . The Indians then cultivated the lands with rice, kitchen vegetables, coconuts and other cash crops.

Many Blacks despised farming the land for it reminded them of the hardships endured under the White Masters, that is why even up to today almost all the cane and rice farmers are Indians in Guyana.

caribny posted:

 

Brazilians eat rice. Jamaicans eat rice. Cubans eat rice. Haitians eat rice as do blacks in the southern states. NONE of those places had Asian populations when rice consumption became a fact of life.

Do you know that St Kitts Nevis has a dish called cook up rice? 

 

Just now you will scream that Indians  brought cook up rice to Guyana and St Kitts.  When I went to the Music Festival there years ago I had a delicious pig tail and pigeon peas cook up.

Some of them might even think that Indians only began to eat rice when they came to the Caribbean because just as your ignorant ass thinks that all blacks eat is fufu I bet that some of them think that all Indians eat is roti,

Bannas yuh head hard, how many times I have to tell you that the slave masters/ colonizers were the ones who introduced rice to these places. Not the slaves or indentured servants. 

Drugb posted:
Django posted:
 

Still prancing with shittypost.

Bannas, when you go in a rumshop, yuh does notice that rum bottle on one shelf and soda on another shelf? Stick to your shelf and let big men converse on matters beyond your limited schooling. 

Racist shittyposter, you can't come close to my schooling, you are dunce.

Trying your best to demean Africans, spitting your venom they learn to plant rice by massa whip.Every poster and readers of GNI can see thru you.Don't know why Caribj conversing with you,maybe enticing you to further expose your Racism towards Africans.

Keep on prancing.

Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:
 

Still prancing with shittypost.

Bannas, when you go in a rumshop, yuh does notice that rum bottle on one shelf and soda on another shelf? Stick to your shelf and let big men converse on matters beyond your limited schooling. 

Racist shittyposter, you can't come close to my schooling, you are dunce.

Trying your best to demean Africans, spitting your venom they learn to plant rice by massa whip.Every poster and readers of GNI can see thru you.Don't know why Caribj conversing with you,maybe enticing you to further expose your Racism towards Africans.

Keep on prancing.

Maybe Caribj is his alter ego. All the conversations look like they are coming from the same person. It's been mentioned on GNI that Drug has blacks in his family. Also Drug said he has another nick here and no one knows about it (I'm paying attention, Drug  ).

Leonora posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:
 

Still prancing with shittypost.

Bannas, when you go in a rumshop, yuh does notice that rum bottle on one shelf and soda on another shelf? Stick to your shelf and let big men converse on matters beyond your limited schooling. 

Racist shittyposter, you can't come close to my schooling, you are dunce.

Trying your best to demean Africans, spitting your venom they learn to plant rice by massa whip.Every poster and readers of GNI can see thru you.Don't know why Caribj conversing with you,maybe enticing you to further expose your Racism towards Africans.

Keep on prancing.

Maybe Caribj is his alter ego. All the conversations look like they are coming from the same person. It's been mentioned on GNI that Drug has blacks in his family. Also Drug said he has another nick here and no one knows about it (I'm paying attention, Drug  ).

I know that nick They can't hide although trying to twist their writings.Not good at playing double role.

Drugb posted:

I had to school d2 on the origin of rice. I think he has learnt his lesson, no need to keep rubbing it in. But I see the slopster still hold on to his erroneous position. 

The reality is that people like you are such big frauds you have little option but repeat the same lie over and over and hope it sticks. The rationale for this silly non informative exercise was your insistence cookup cannot be of African creation ( not mistake) because they did not have rice.

I simply reminded you your impoverished education and lack of curiosity left you intellectually stunted. Africans encountered rice and were in active cultivation of the grain for some 3 to 6 thousand years. That is the fact jack.

Rice was ubiquitous to African culture. The gullas will tell you that they were brought as slaves to the Americas  because of their skill at planting rice. America did not have Indians to plant rice. The Gullas created a vast agricultural tradition from the Carolinas to Louisiana. Rice had its beginnings everywhere in the west because of the ability to access the knowledge from African peoples. 

Delude yourself that you are the greatest if you may. Not my burden. Je m'en fou as the french would say.

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

Rice and peas/beans dishes are popular in the Americas wherever blacks arrived and are also in Guyana.  Yet he screams that all Guyanese blacks did was eat fufu.

You are really living in an alternate universe. Look around you, even the same one agreeing with you made sure that they live in non black neighborhoods.   Ask d2, django, tola and others where they live and if they answer truthfully you will note that their areas are devoid of blacks like you.  They only come here and give you lip service and then go home to their white neighbors. 

Yes it is documented that the Guyanese Blacks diet was whatever the slave masters provided, rice was not part of it originally, even though later on the slavers tried to introduce rice production to supplement.

Look at this site and do a find on rice, not 1 hit. Now go argue with the people at liverpool museums. 

 

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.or...bean/caribbean2.aspx

I live between  two cities most most of my life.  In Philly  i live in center city and it is a mixed upscale community. It became upscale after we moved.  In DC I lived among black people  until recently. I currently live among white people in a Maryland suburb to avoid busy city life and  for more greenery and for cheap.  I do not know what this has to do with the tea in china. 

You always look for information ( or in this case non information) that you can harmonize with your ignorant claims. You do not look for the truth. Check here if you really care to erase your ignorance

 

kp posted:

The black slaves were given parcels of land after emancipation , many feared working the land and ran away, some sold the land to the indentured . The Indians then cultivated the lands with rice, kitchen vegetables, coconuts and other cash crops.

Many Blacks despised farming the land for it reminded them of the hardships endured under the White Masters, that is why even up to today almost all the cane and rice farmers are Indians in Guyana.

And hay comes we bai KP, de resident Klansman President, barking he erroneous version of history and daubing he runny diarrhea shit pon black man in de process.

After emancipation many blacks owned farms on the coast. Their lands were intentionally flooded out by the British and their taxes raised forcing them to abandon their farms. Many entered the civil service.

Has nothing to do with blacks "feared working the land and ran away" or many blacks "despised farming". This is right in line with the common theme followed here by the other Indo KKK to paint black Guyanese as lazy, violent sub humans who lilve only to prey on Indians.

Other countries watching alyuh now.

D2 posted:
I live between  two cities most most of my life.  In Philly  i live in center city and it is a mixed upscale community. It became upscale after we moved.  In DC I lived among black people  until recently. I currently live among white people in a Maryland suburb to avoid busy city life and  for more greenery and for cheap.  I do not know what this has to do with the tea in china. 

You always look for information ( or in this case non information) that you can harmonize with your ignorant claims. You do not look for the truth. Check here if you really care to erase your ignorance

 

In fact you run away from the same Blacks you now come here daily claiming are the inventors of everything good and progressive.

I do not know where I ever made the claim about inventions lately but that is another one of your story. I do not know how I can run away from black folks when my wife is black and my kid is black but again that is another story...

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
caribny posted:
yuji22 posted:

History of rice cultivation

 

Caribbean and Latin America

Rice is not native to the Americas but was introduced to Latin America and the Caribbean by European colonizers at an early date with Spanish colonizers introducing Asian rice to Mexico in the 1520s at Veracruz and the Portuguese and their African slaves introducing it at about the same time to Colonial Brazil. Recent scholarship suggests that enslaved Africans played an active role in the establishment of rice in the New World and that African rice was an important crop from an early period. Varieties of rice and bean dishes that were a staple dish along the peoples of West Africa remained a staple among their descendants subjected to slavery in the Spanish New World colonies, Brazil and elsewhere in the Americas.

The Native Americans of what is now the Eastern United States may have practiced extensive agriculture with forms of wild rice. (References to wild rice in the Americas are to the unrelated Zizania palustris.)

United States

In the United States, colonial South Carolina and Georgia grew and amassed great wealth from the Slavery labor obtained from the Senegambia area of West Africa and from coastal Sierra Leone. At the port of Charleston, through which 40% of all American slave imports passed, slaves from this region of Africa brought the highest prices, in recognition of their prior knowledge of rice culture, which was put to use on the many rice plantations around Georgetown, Charleston, and Savannah. From the enslaved Africans, plantation owners learned how to dyke the marshes and periodically flood the fields. At first the rice was milled by hand with wooden paddles, then winnowed in sweetgrass baskets (the making of which was another skill brought by slaves from Africa).

 http://ricepedia.org/culture/h...-of-rice-cultivation

Druggie just got a mental breakdown as he is trying to peddle that black people knew nothing about rice until 1838 when the first Indians arrived.

It is possible that Druggie is blind and not stupid.   This is from one of our fellow Indo KKK.

The afros in the new world only learnt of rice cultivation at the behest of their masters and the end of a whip. Their involvement in its cultivation was merely laborers fulfilling their masters instructions. 

I normally don't allow endless quotes but I will do this time.  This is evidence of druggies' illiteracy.  Highlighted by him about why enslaved peoples from certain West African regions were acquired by the owners of rice plantations in the Carolinas and he still wails his crap.

Django posted:
Don't know why Caribj conversing with you,maybe enticing you to further expose your Racism towards Africans.

Keep on prancing.

I feel sorry for the poor man. Recent events show that uneducated people with low self esteem need attention to prevent them from doing something drastic.

caribny posted:

I normally don't allow endless quotes but I will do this time.  This is evidence of druggies' illiteracy.  Highlighted by him about why enslaved peoples from certain West African regions were acquired by the owners of rice plantations in the Carolinas and he still wails his crap.

The whip was instrumental in the cultivation of rice in the Carolinas. The White masters did indeed used slave knowledge to cultivate but in the end it was the whip that got the job done. 

Drugb posted:

The whip was instrumental in the cultivation of rice in the Carolinas. The White masters did indeed used slave knowledge to cultivate but in the end it was the whip that got the job done. 

sooo

this is the unfolding of drugb's long crawl back into his syphilitic mental stink hole . . . husslin with formaldehyde in a dutty tin cup to embalm the public face of his disease and mitigate the overpowering stench of pus and vomit

ignominy blanketing his urine-soaked prance-a-thon on 2 separate threads (his pee stream aimed at blackman being unnaturally weak, the banna soiled himself!), this literal crumb of a human being is now reduced to celebration and self-pleasuring at the brutality visited upon Africans who resisted laboring as chattel in New World captivity

imagine . . .  that's exactly ALL the self-esteem challenged fool ever had 

smfh

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

I normally don't allow endless quotes but I will do this time.  This is evidence of druggies' illiteracy.  Highlighted by him about why enslaved peoples from certain West African regions were acquired by the owners of rice plantations in the Carolinas and he still wails his crap.

The whip was instrumental in the cultivation of rice in the Carolinas. The White masters did indeed used slave knowledge to cultivate but in the end it was the whip that got the job done. 

Maybe you haven't been able to locate a black baigan recently so your frustration makes you even more stupid.  If neither the slave master or the slave knew how to grow rice whipping couldn't achieve a thing.

You also need to know about these rice growing areas in South Carolina.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCd5W4gwJsI

Listen to this woman when she starts reading at 12 minutes.  You can understand what she is saying but most Americans, even many black Americans will not without difficulty.

Do you know why this dialect survived in the rice growing areas?  Because for most of the year the weather was too hot for the slave owners and poisonous snakes too rampant.  So unlike those of cotton plantation these slaves were lest tightly supervised by the slave owners.

ronan posted: 

sooo

this is the unfolding of drugb's long crawl back into his syphilitic mental stink hole . . . husslin with formaldehyde in a dutty tin cup to embalm the public face of his disease and mitigate the overpowering stench of pus and vomit

ignominy blanketing his urine-soaked prance-a-thon on 2 separate threads (his pee stream aimed at blackman being unnaturally weak, the banna soiled himself!), this literal crumb of a human being is now reduced to celebration and self-pleasuring at the brutality visited upon Africans who resisted laboring as chattel in New World captivity

imagine . . .  that's exactly ALL the self-esteem challenged fool ever had 

smfh

You should be a comedian the way you write. It looks like druggie keeping you up late at night to come up with this comic routine. 

caribny posted:
  If neither the slave master or the slave knew how to grow rice whipping couldn't achieve a thing.

You also need to know about these rice growing areas in South Carolina.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCd5W4gwJsI

Listen to this woman when she starts reading at 12 minutes.  You can understand what she is saying but most Americans, even many black Americans will not without difficulty.

Do you know why this dialect survived in the rice growing areas?  Because for most of the year the weather was too hot for the slave owners and poisonous snakes too rampant.  So unlike those of cotton plantation these slaves were lest tightly supervised by the slave owners.

What does this dialect have to do with the question at hand?  The fact remains that without the whip, no man would give away his skills for free to make the white man rich.  The whip, hangings, castration and rape was used by the white man to keep the slaves in check. Take for instance if you and Ronan were my slaves, would you willingly give away your secrets to make me rich? NO, so that is where the whip comes in, some serious welts on your backs would make you give up your trade secrets. In fact even in Guyana this is the same technique used by the PPP to tame the now toothless PNC. 

Drugb posted:
ronan posted: 

sooo

this is the unfolding of drugb's long crawl back into his syphilitic mental stink hole . . . husslin with formaldehyde in a dutty tin cup to embalm the public face of his disease and mitigate the overpowering stench of pus and vomit

ignominy blanketing his urine-soaked prance-a-thon on 2 separate threads (his pee stream aimed at blackman being unnaturally weak, the banna soiled himself!), this literal crumb of a human being is now reduced to celebration and self-pleasuring at the brutality visited upon Africans who resisted laboring as chattel in New World captivity

imagine . . .  that's exactly ALL the self-esteem challenged fool ever had 

smfh

comedian . . . druggie . . . comic routine. 

"bussass"

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Drugb posted:

The fact remains that without the whip, no man would give away his skills for free to make the white man rich.  The whip, hangings, castration and rape was used by the white man to keep the slaves in check. Take for instance if you and Ronan were my slaves . . . some serious welts on your backs would make you give up your trade secrets.  

drugb, you have a serious, twisted sex fantasy life . . . we watching carefully how you dribbling, shaking your ass and cozying up to the sick subjunctive 

frankly, we get it!. . . "trade secrets" = "Big Black Baigan"

this disgusting craving of yours has become a demonic possession in your head and the dutty compulsions have eaten away at your common sense . . . to drag Ronan and Caribny into your homoerotic sado-masochistic reverie is creepy, nasty and beyond the pale

Sir, there are certain 'business' locations in the seedier parts of Newark where you can get actual relief, and we don't want to know about it

thirsty as you are, when you do, don't forget your safe word banna

arite?

yuji22 posted:

I guess you missed your Prozac this evening. You were dead wrong and I do not want to drive you further into depression with this turning into another case of a Sakawinki turning into a Bird.

I presume Prozac is what reduces you to post  the same thing twice. Parrot brained of course....

ronan posted:

drugb, you have a serious, twisted sex fantasy life . . . we watching carefully how you dribbling, shaking your ass and cozying up to the sick subjunctive 

frankly, we get it!. . . "trade secrets" = "Big Black Baigan"

this disgusting craving of yours has become a demonic possession in your head and the dutty compulsions have eaten away at your common sense . . . to drag Ronan and Caribny into your homoerotic sado-masochistic reverie is creepy, nasty and beyond the pale

Sir, there are certain 'business' locations in the seedier parts of Newark where you can get actual relief, and we don't want to know about it

thirsty as you are, when you do, don't forget your safe word banna

arite?

Don't get your panties all up in a bunch. It was just a hypothetical scenario. I wouldn't want you or cribby as my slaves anyway, yall suffer from jiggerritis and I need people to actually do work and not sleep on the job. 

Drugb posted:
ronan posted:

drugb, you have a serious, twisted sex fantasy life . . . we watching carefully how you dribbling, shaking your ass and cozying up to the sick subjunctive 

frankly, we get it!. . . "trade secrets" = "Big Black Baigan"

this disgusting craving of yours has become a demonic possession in your head and the dutty compulsions have eaten away at your common sense . . . to drag Ronan and Caribny into your homoerotic sado-masochistic reverie is creepy, nasty and beyond the pale

Sir, there are certain 'business' locations in the seedier parts of Newark where you can get actual relief, and we don't want to know about it

thirsty as you are, when you do, don't forget your safe word banna

arite?

Don't get your panties all up in a bunch. It was just a hypothetical scenario. I wouldn't want you or cribby as my slaves anyway, yall suffer from jiggerritis  

you were a 3rd rater in Guyana, now reduced to a 4th rate mediocrity in America fantasizing of slave ownership, rape and the coercing of big black baigan into your orifices under threat of "castration"

[jigg]erritis, eh?

you disgust me

Drugb posted:
ronan posted:

drugb, you have a serious, twisted sex fantasy life . . . we watching carefully how you dribbling, shaking your ass and cozying up to the sick subjunctive 

frankly, we get it!. . . "trade secrets" = "Big Black Baigan"

this disgusting craving of yours has become a demonic possession in your head and the dutty compulsions have eaten away at your common sense . . . to drag Ronan and Caribny into your homoerotic sado-masochistic reverie is creepy, nasty and beyond the pale

Sir, there are certain 'business' locations in the seedier parts of Newark where you can get actual relief, and we don't want to know about it

thirsty as you are, when you do, don't forget your safe word banna

arite?

Don't get your panties all up in a bunch. It was just a hypothetical scenario. I wouldn't want you or cribby as my slaves anyway, yall suffer from jiggerritis and I need people to actually do work and not sleep on the job. 

Dem bais forgot that the rich and successful never suffered from the Jiggs.

ronan posted:
Drugb posted:
 

you were a 3rd rater in Guyana, now reduced to a 4th rate mediocrity in America fantasizing of slave ownership and the coercing of big black baigan into your orifices under threat of "castration"

[jigg]erritis, eh?

you disgust me

These fellows are their own nightmare. He does not know a difference...he could only say that here.  Don't waste emotions on him. 

He hates black people but have that nice burnt hue that would make any  white folk  hurl the "n" word at him without hesitation. These fellows need to pretend so over come their own personal self hatred. 

yuji22 posted:
Drugb posted:
ronan posted:

drugb, you have a serious, twisted sex fantasy life . . . we watching carefully how you dribbling, shaking your ass and cozying up to the sick subjunctive 

frankly, we get it!. . . "trade secrets" = "Big Black Baigan"

this disgusting craving of yours has become a demonic possession in your head and the dutty compulsions have eaten away at your common sense . . . to drag Ronan and Caribny into your homoerotic sado-masochistic reverie is creepy, nasty and beyond the pale

Sir, there are certain 'business' locations in the seedier parts of Newark where you can get actual relief, and we don't want to know about it

thirsty as you are, when you do, don't forget your safe word banna

arite?

Don't get your panties all up in a bunch. It was just a hypothetical scenario. I wouldn't want you or cribby as my slaves anyway, yall suffer from jiggerritis . . .

Dem bais forgot that the rich and successful never suffered from the Jiggs.

another one, a poorly educated 5th rater this time, who can't help himself

lest we forget

yuji22 posted:
Drugb posted:
ronan posted:

drugb, you have a serious, twisted sex fantasy life . . . we watching carefully how you dribbling, shaking your ass and cozying up to the sick subjunctive 

frankly, we get it!. . . "trade secrets" = "Big Black Baigan"

this disgusting craving of yours has become a demonic possession in your head and the dutty compulsions have eaten away at your common sense . . . to drag Ronan and Caribny into your homoerotic sado-masochistic reverie is creepy, nasty and beyond the pale

Sir, there are certain 'business' locations in the seedier parts of Newark where you can get actual relief, and we don't want to know about it

thirsty as you are, when you do, don't forget your safe word banna

arite?

Don't get your panties all up in a bunch. It was just a hypothetical scenario. I wouldn't want you or cribby as my slaves anyway, yall suffer from jiggerritis and I need people to actually do work and not sleep on the job. 

Dem bais forgot that the rich and successful never suffered from the Jiggs.

eh eh....what have we here? Wan purebred indian who duz follow strict bramanananananananannanaaaa ways according to he upbringing pelting racist insults. Is dis according to de bramamamamamanaic teachings?

yuji22 posted:
 

Don't get your panties all up in a bunch. It was just a hypothetical scenario. I wouldn't want you or cribby as my slaves anyway, yall suffer from jiggerritis and I need people to actually do work and not sleep on the job. 

Dem bais forgot that the rich and successful never suffered from the Jiggs.

the few pennies you got does not make you rich. Rich people do not brag

Iguana posted:
yuji22 posted:

Dem bais forgot that the rich and successful never suffered from the Jiggs.

eh eh....what have we here? Wan purebred indian who duz follow strict bramanananananananannanaaaa ways according to he upbringing pelting racist insults. Is dis according to de bramamamamamanaic teachings?

These are our very bright people ( in their own eyes!) He reference his Brahmin status to put his own indo mates in their place. Just called Mits a Chamar! When you are weak minded and shallow you resort to bragging about money and pedigree. 

 

D2 posted:

How come that nutjob balahoo brahamin who started this thread using my alias has not contributed to it? 

Dude, I"m sure you know he has nothing to contribute. Ugli man contributions hay consist of assorted racial epithets (jiggeritis etc.), pissing pon black people, crying to Ray and Amral on an hourly basis, asking wha kinda exercise fuh do, how fuh live long, and odda antiman shit. Ugli man, raised in he racist enclave lacks sophistication and knows nothing of Guyanese history, culture, traditions or its people.

Drop lash pon he ass and he starts to squeal like the pig he is and run to Amral and Ray about how he getting bullied and harassed. Fking wimp and weasel of a "man" can't tek he blows. Sissy. This idiot starts forty million threads to whine, bitch and complain. He has nothing of substance other than he race based sloganeering.

yuji22 posted:

Look like D2/Guana and Ronan woke up from the Jigs simultaneously. Ha Ha.

Iguana posted:
D2 posted:

How come that nutjob balahoo brahamin who started this thread using my alias has not contributed to it? 

Dude, I"m sure you know he has nothing to contribute. Ugli man contributions hay consist of assorted racial epithets (jiggeritis etc.), pissing pon black people, crying to Ray and Amral on an hourly basis, asking wha kinda exercise fuh do, how fuh live long, and odda antiman shit. Ugli man, raised in he racist enclave lacks sophistication and knows nothing of Guyanese history, culture, traditions or its people.

Drop lash pon he ass and he starts to squeal like the pig he is and run to Amral and Ray about how he getting bullied and harassed. Fking wimp and weasel of a "man" can't tek he blows. Sissy. This idiot starts forty million threads to whine, bitch and complain. He has nothing of substance other than he race based sloganeering.

Indeed he has been here for a decade with not one post attempting to clarify or express any unique view about our history, politics or social reality. I wish he had the brain power to create a slogan. It swipes artwork and post it as if that projects his command of the subject matter. This fellow is as creative as a gnat. 

yuji22 posted:

Look like D2/Guana and Ronan woke up from the Jigs simultaneously. Ha Ha.

....unfortunately no amount of brahmamamamamamaamic teachings can awaken you from yuh nasty, dutty racist stupor dat yuh live in. you are beyond hope and redemption. A nasty lil plague pon dis site.

D2 posted:

Indeed he has been here for a decade with not one post attempting to clarify or express any unique view about our history, politics or social reality. I wish he had the brain power to create a slogan. It swipes artwork and post it as if that projects his command of the subject matter. This fellow is as creative as a gnat. 

He is a true "neva see cum fuh see" shithead, made suh by de few ill gotten dollars he got as dowry fuh being a "lite skin bramin". Iz all he got.

Iguana posted:
D2 posted:

Indeed he has been here for a decade with not one post attempting to clarify or express any unique view about our history, politics or social reality. I wish he had the brain power to create a slogan. It swipes artwork and post it as if that projects his command of the subject matter. This fellow is as creative as a gnat. 

He is a true "neva see cum fuh see" shithead, made suh by de few ill gotten dollars he got as dowry fuh being a "lite skin bramin". Iz all he got.

banna from line path. I..they just got electricity, running water and indoor plumbing. Still has Guyana mud between his toes and pretending he is some rajput! 

I doubt he is lighter complected than any of us. 

 

 

 

 

ronan posted:
  • you were a 3rd rater in Guyana, now reduced to a 4th rate mediocrity in America fantasizing of slave ownership, rape and the coercing of big black baigan into your orifices under threat of "castration"

[jigg]erritis, eh?

you disgust me

Looks like you don't know your history. Castration was a common form of punishment during slavery to keep you folks in check. You are lucky that your foreparents masters were not Muslim Arab, they used to castrate young Afro boys to use as eunuchs. 

Drugb posted:
ronan posted:
  • you were a 3rd rater in Guyana, now reduced to a 4th rate mediocrity in America fantasizing of slave ownership, rape and the coercing of big black baigan into your orifices under threat of "castration"

[jigg]erritis, eh?

you disgust me

Castration was a common form of punishment during slavery to keep you folks in check. You are lucky that your foreparents masters were not Muslim Arab, they used to castrate young Afro boys to use as eunuchs. 

ummm . . .

how's the search for big black baigan going Mr Thirsty?

your parts must be itching

D2 posted:

banna from line path. I..they just got electricity, running water and indoor plumbing. Still has Guyana mud between his toes and pretending he is some rajput! 

I doubt he is lighter complected than any of us.   

...well according to he, he bramamamamamamammamaama status mek he white.In this day and age, these people validate their worth based on complexion. SMFH. Ugli thinks it mek he superior and ah we resident Dalit Drugb husslin' fuh compensate fuh he blue black hue by attemptin' fuh denigrate black man.

"Easter Lily" Ugli below.

https://guyana.hoop.la/topic/j...3#586501884156226713

Drugb posted:
 

What does this dialect have to do with the question at hand?  The fact remains that without the whip, no man would give away his skills for free to make the white man rich.  

So now you concede that the Africans had skills to bring in rice cultivation but had to be coerced to do so.  We make progress as before you implied that Englishmen were experts in cultivating rice under swampy and humid conditions rife with poisonous snakes.

It is a known fact that the Gullah people who emerged in coastal South Carolina were more isolated than were slaves on the other types of plantations. This is why a dialect unique to the area grew.  This is a documented FACT.

ronan posted:
 

Sir, there are certain 'business' locations in the seedier parts of Newark where you can get actual relief, and we don't want to know about it

thirsty as you are, when you do, don't forget your safe word banna

arite?

He already knows about these locations.  He has mentioned them before, even offering to introduce some folks here to those who offer their services.

Drugb posted:
 

Looks like you don't know your history. Castration was a common form of punishment during slavery to keep you folks in check. 

Clearly not in the USA when "growing slaves" was seen as preferable from buying ones fresh from Africa.

The estate born slave was conditioned into slavery.  The free born were always a run away threat and more likely to rebel. And even if they didn't were more likely to malinger.  In addition, less accustomed to the harsh conditions on the plantations, more likely to die or commit suicide.

So the planters encouraged the slaves to breed and those who were good at it were rewarded.

So druggie castration wasn't a feature within the USA.  And you know this well based on your periodic trips to Newark.

yuji22 posted:

Eh Eh, D2 is talking to himself now. Take your licks today. Like you get Ning Ning.

No need to say it except as necessary; you have to be afflicted with some crosswise somewhere to be so into making up your own  reality. 

Hey liar D2, after this, you should NEVER lie again at GNI. I have the other lie that you posted coming up soon. First answer my question and stop running before I expose the second lie that you posted. Don't ever come here and lie.

yuji22 posted:

Hey liar D2, after this, you should NEVER lie again at GNI. I have the other lie that you posted coming up soon. First answer my question and stop running before I expose the second lie that you posted. Don't ever come here and lie.

Yes stupid man...tell the world how you came by the information you affirm is truth here daily. You have my permission. Everyone know here knows that is a lie ....as they know I can name that bird in an instant. You are a bloody sick trumpite and like him you pretend you know what you do not and insist you are a truth teller when you are a sick diseased liar....If I name the bird would you tell the board the name of the park I sleep in? Fair's fair; put up dick head.

yuji22 posted:

Stop dodging, bobbing and weaving. You can't answer because you opened your big mouth and lied and do not have an answer. Ha Ha !!!

All you can do now is blow smoke. 

Busted !!! 

Found out that you are not of a Brahmin lineage. More to follow.

yuji22 posted:

Stop dodging, bobbing and weaving. You can't answer because you opened your big mouth and lied and do not have an answer. Ha Ha !!!

All you can do now is blow smoke. 

Busted !!! 

Nothing to prevaricate about dummy...the board is not dumb. They know I can tell you down to its taxonomic roots because google is here. Pretending you are on to something is your stupid addled air brained trying to get air. Please tell me the park where I sleep...Not that would be something. 

Listen, stop dodging, bobbing and weaving. You can only blow smoke because you have been busted once again for lying. Don't come here and lie because you will be busted.

I have the second one coming soon, that lie that you started is even bigger than this one.

Now, answer the question or just go in a corner and lick your wounds.

Busted !!!! 

yuji22 posted:

Listen, stop dodging, bobbing and weaving. You can only blow smoke because you have been busted once again for lying. Don't come here and lie because you will be busted.

I have the second one coming soon, that lie that you started is even bigger than this one.

Now, answer the question or just go in a corner and lick your wounds.

Busted !!!! 

Dummy...please post the park.....then I will post the birds name. Simple thing...I only had to go to Google if I did not...

But then again reasoning is not your forte...mama really damaged you in the delivery room....or is it your daddy genes?

yuji22 posted:

Ha ha, bai you are a piece of work. Ha ha. This one will go down in GNI History after the Sakawinki mishap where you have been busted for lying again. 

Ha ha !!!!

One will not doubt that since it is your world. Please name the park. 

yuji22 posted:

Hey Dummy, stop bobbing and weaving and name the bird that you used to catch in your dreams:

 

Liar Liar, D2 Pants on fire.

 

Name the park you say I sleep in please....and as a bonus the library whose computer I use....Ray can verify that he has the ip.

Listen Bai, don't make a fool of yourself. Don't you ever come here try to pull off those lies. Try that shyte with your imaginary buddies. Think twice before you try to pull one off like you did yesterday.

I have the second big tale that you told coming up later this week.

yuji22 posted:

Listen Bai, don't make a fool of yourself. Don't you ever come here try to pull off those lies. Try that shyte with your imaginary buddies. Think twice before you try to pull one off like you did yesterday.

I have the second big tale that you told coming up later this week.

Trump junior in the house...you do not lie. You simply do not have a habit of telling the truth. Anything you have is as usual in your head. 

Only a few people here knows me and they know you are a pretentious dick head who claims great wealth and Brahmin pedigree....

Listen Bai, lick your wounds and go home. I hope that you learnt your lesson to NEVER lie again. 

I am proud of who I am, what I own and of my Bramhana status.

I am superior to no one but you always come here swinging at me, well I have a message for you: Bring it on !!!

yuji22 posted:

Listen Bai, lick your wounds and go home. I hope that you learnt your lesson to NEVER lie again. 

I am proud of who I am, what I own and of my Bramhana status.

I am superior to no one but you always come here swinging at me, well I have a message for you: Bring it on !!!

Park dummy...

D2 posted:
yuji22 posted:

Listen Bai, lick your wounds and go home. I hope that you learnt your lesson to NEVER lie again. 

I am proud of who I am, what I own and of my Bramhana status.

I am superior to no one but you always come here swinging at me, well I have a message for you: Bring it on !!!

Park dummy...

I see a Brahmin in dhoti running after you, beating his chest and foaming at the mouth. It's pouring outside, stop by when you have some time and you can help me with these Infectious Diseases powerpoints.

Leonora posted:
D2 posted:
yuji22 posted:

Listen Bai, lick your wounds and go home. I hope that you learnt your lesson to NEVER lie again. 

I am proud of who I am, what I own and of my Bramhana status.

I am superior to no one but you always come here swinging at me, well I have a message for you: Bring it on !!!

Park dummy...

I see a Brahmin in dhoti running after you, beating his chest and foaming at the mouth. It's pouring outside, stop by when you have some time and you can help me with these Infectious Diseases powerpoints.

Dont think he can catch me because I run fast! 

My wife sometimes tries to conscript me to design her power points but I do not let her. 

D2 posted:
yuji22 posted:

Listen Bai, don't make a fool of yourself. Don't you ever come here try to pull off those lies. Try that shyte with your imaginary buddies. Think twice before you try to pull one off like you did yesterday.

I have the second big tale that you told coming up later this week.

Trump junior in the house...you do not lie. You simply do not have a habit of telling the truth. Anything you have is as usual in your head. 

Only a few people here knows me and they know you are a pretentious dick head who claims great wealth and Brahmin pedigree....

what victory over you is this DUNCE proclaiming? I don't get it with all the pictures of birds and claims that he proved something. He has turned the political side into pure shit talk.

Leonora posted:
Iguana posted:
what victory over you is this DUNCE proclaiming? I don't get it with all the pictures of birds and claims that he proved something. He has turned the political side into pure shit talk.

Totally agree.

...he cannot hang with the posters here when it comes to analysis, insight, opinions or contributing anything sensible. So he runs to admins to have your posts removed (he had mine removed on the skeldon hospital thread).

He defamed a former first lady on this forum (I still have the thread saved locally) and wasn't sanctioned in any way. Yet an F word gets a post removed. It is what it is. He cannot exist here without the assistance of the admin to remove his defamatory posts and react to his incessant complaints and whining. This guy is a wimp in every sense of the word.

caribny posted:

Clearly not in the USA when "growing slaves" was seen as preferable from buying ones fresh from Africa.

The estate born slave was conditioned into slavery.  The free born were always a run away threat and more likely to rebel. And even if they didn't were more likely to malinger.  In addition, less accustomed to the harsh conditions on the plantations, more likely to die or commit suicide.

So the planters encouraged the slaves to breed and those who were good at it were rewarded

So druggie castration wasn't a feature within the USA.  And you know this well based on your periodic trips to Newark.

I don't think you or Ronan have US heritage so stop piggybacking off the US afro accomplishment and stick to the Guyanese Afro. Yall come from different tribes with racist blood running through your veins. Do you realize that the American Blacks hate the Caribbean Blacks and visa versa?

Now to deal with your erroneous claim,  read and educate yourself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...in_the_United_States

Mutilation (such as castration, or amputating ears) was a relatively common punishment during the colonial era and still used in 1830. Any punishment was permitted for runaway slaves, and many bore wounds from shotgun blasts or dog bites used by their captors.[41]

Drugb posted:

I don't think you or Ronan have US heritage so stop piggybacking off the US afro accomplishment . . .

ignominy . . .

Drugb, GNI’s thirsty Big Black Baigan hunter start out shaking he bt, jerking off in public, hissing that Black people in the Americas ate grass, knew nothing about growing rice, knowing only “fufu” and “ground provisions” as “heritage” when they were brought as slaves from “Africa”

with nowhere to go now as heavy lash ripping flesh and peeling the layers of DUNCE from his backside, he now mumbling bout “afro accomplishment” in the US . . . as he moonwalks into some ass-backwards zone whining that his tormentors dem unfairly “piggybacking . . .”

uh huh

ronan posted:
Drugb posted:

I don't think you or Ronan have US heritage so stop piggybacking off the US afro accomplishment . . .

ignominy . . .

Drugb, GNI’s thirsty Big Black Baigan hunter start out shaking he bt, jerking off in public, hissing that Black people in the Americas ate grass, knew nothing about growing rice, knowing only “fufu” and “ground provisions” as “heritage” when they were brought as slaves from “Africa”

with nowhere to go now as heavy lash ripping flesh and peeling the layers of DUNCE from his backside, he now mumbling bout “afro accomplishment” in the US . . . as he moonwalks into some ass-backwards zone whining that his tormentors dem unfairly “piggybacking . . .”

uh huh

GNI’s thirsty Big Black Baigan hunter start out shaking he bt, jerking off in public,

Really, all this anti man language coming from choir boy.

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

Clearly not in the USA when "growing slaves" was seen as preferable from buying ones fresh from Africa.

The estate born slave was conditioned into slavery.  The free born were always a run away threat and more likely to rebel. And even if they didn't were more likely to malinger.  In addition, less accustomed to the harsh conditions on the plantations, more likely to die or commit suicide.

So the planters encouraged the slaves to breed and those who were good at it were rewarded

So druggie castration wasn't a feature within the USA.  And you know this well based on your periodic trips to Newark.

I don't think you or Ronan have US heritage so stop piggybacking off the US afro accomplishment and stick to the Guyanese Afro. Yall come from different tribes with racist blood running through your veins. Do you realize that the American Blacks hate the Caribbean Blacks and visa versa?

Now to deal with your erroneous claim,  read and educate yourself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...in_the_United_States

Mutilation (such as castration, or amputating ears) was a relatively common punishment during the colonial era and still used in 1830. Any punishment was permitted for runaway slaves, and many bore wounds from shotgun blasts or dog bites used by their captors.[41]

American Civil rights movement has dozens of black west indians as seminal to the movement. Also, black west Indians integrate fluidly into black American society.

  • kp posted:
ronan posted:
Drugb posted:

I don't think you or Ronan have US heritage so stop piggybacking off the US afro accomplishment . . .

ignominy . . .

Drugb, GNI’s thirsty Big Black Baigan hunter start out shaking he bt, jerking off in public, hissing that Black people in the Americas ate grass, knew nothing about growing rice, knowing only “fufu” and “ground provisions” as “heritage” when they were brought as slaves from “Africa”

with nowhere to go now as heavy lash ripping flesh and peeling the layers of DUNCE from his backside, he now mumbling bout “afro accomplishment” in the US . . . as he moonwalks into some ass-backwards zone whining that his tormentors dem unfairly “piggybacking . . .”

uh huh

“GNI’s thirsty Big Black Baigan hunter start out shaking he bt, jerking off in public,”

Really, all this anti man language coming from choir boy.

when talking about gross “antiman” behavior, how exactly do you want me to present the facts ‘nicely’?

drugb chose to try piss on and dehumanize Black people with “rape” talk; with “castration” talk, etc. and you have the NERVE to criticize my characterizations of his HATE SPEECH!?

you mussbe out of your freakin mind . . . socializing with his kind in loutville

and, btw, where did you get the STUPID idea that i’m a “choir boy” . . . huh?

Drugb posted:
 

I don't think you or Ronan have US heritage so stop piggybacking off the US afro accomplishment and stick to the Guyanese Afro. Yall come from different tribes with racist blood running through your veins. Do you realize that the American Blacks hate the Caribbean Blacks and visa versa?

Now to deal with your erroneous claim,  read and educate yourself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...in_the_United_States

Mutilation (such as castration, or amputating ears) was a relatively common punishment during the colonial era and still used in 1830. Any punishment was permitted for runaway slaves, and many bore wounds from shotgun blasts or dog bites used by their captors.[41]

And today we acknowledge Shirley Chisholm a woman of GUYANESE and Bajan ancestry.  Caribbean BLACKs contributed significantly to the struggles of blacks in the USA.  Their struggle even benefitted ingrate racists like you as prior to 1965 your kind was NOT allowed to migrate to this country in large numbers.

No more than500k enslaved peoples were shipped to the USA from Afruca.  Yet by 1860 the slave population was 4 million, with additional 400k free blacks.

Druggie please explain how this black population increased so significantly between 1620 and 1860 if 90% of the growth came from the birth of blacks, slave and free, in the USA.

Tell us how eunuchs can reproduce.  You are a stupid man with no understanding, so you grab pieces from Wikipedia without a minimal comprehension of the evidence that you present.

 

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

I don't think you or Ronan have US heritage so stop piggybacking off the US afro accomplishment and stick to the Guyanese Afro. Yall come from different tribes with racist blood running through your veins. Do you realize that the American Blacks hate the Caribbean Blacks and visa versa?

Now to deal with your erroneous claim,  read and educate yourself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...in_the_United_States

Mutilation (such as castration, or amputating ears) was a relatively common punishment during the colonial era and still used in 1830. Any punishment was permitted for runaway slaves, and many bore wounds from shotgun blasts or dog bites used by their captors.[41]

And today we acknowledge Shirley Chisholm a woman of GUYANESE and Bajan ancestry.  Caribbean BLACKs contributed significantly to the struggles of blacks in the USA.  Their struggle even benefitted ingrate racists like you as prior to 1965 your kind was NOT allowed to migrate to this country in large numbers.

No more than500k enslaved peoples were shipped to the USA from Afruca.  Yet by 1860 the slave population was 4 million, with additional 400k free blacks.

Druggie please explain how this black population increased so significantly between 1620 and 1860 if 90% of the growth came from the birth of blacks, slave and free, in the USA.

Tell us how eunuchs can reproduce.  You are a stupid man with no understanding, so you grab pieces from Wikipedia without a minimal comprehension of the evidence that you present.

 

Bannas, them slaves were mostly docile and 100's of yall were controlled by 1 white  overseer with  a whip. The 1 and 2 that behave bad were castrated as lesson to the others. I suggest you watch roots and learn how Kunta Kinte chose amputation to castration just so he could carry on the bloodline.  Others were not so fortunate to be given that choice. 

Drugb posted:

Bannas, them slaves were mostly docile and 100's of yall were controlled by 1 white  overseer with  a whip. The 1 and 2 that behave bad were castrated as lesson to the others. I suggest you watch roots and learn how Kunta Kinte chose amputation to castration just so he could carry on the bloodline.  Others were not so fortunate to be given that choice. 

You often leverage carelessness with facts against Django when you are not only careless you are by nature careless.

D2 posted:
Drugb posted:

Bannas, them slaves were mostly docile and 100's of yall were controlled by 1 white  overseer with  a whip. The 1 and 2 that behave bad were castrated as lesson to the others. I suggest you watch roots and learn how Kunta Kinte chose amputation to castration just so he could carry on the bloodline.  Others were not so fortunate to be given that choice. 

You often leverage carelessness with facts against Django when you are not only careless you are by nature careless.

Even the article by Henry Gates proves my point. Out of almost 4 million slaves, this is just a handful of rebellions in ratio.  You can get away with almost anything with uneducated people, so I have to dumb down my writings when conversing with some.  

Drugb posted:
vidence that you present.

 

Bannas, them slaves were mostly docile and 100's of yall were controlled by 1 white  overseer with  a whip

As were your ancestors in India so stupid that they fell for a trick that had them spend months on a boat, many dying and then to be treated scarcely better than slaves at the end of the trip.   May dying there too.  They even lived in the same dwellings that the slaves abandoned when they left the plantation.  And yes that whip was sometimes used.

An Indian like you  talking calling black people docile is a joke given that your national anthem "black man a kill ahbe".

Drugb posted:

Even the article by Henry Gates proves my point. Out of almost 4 million slaves, this is just a handful of rebellions in ratio.  You can get away with almost anything with uneducated people, so I have to dumb down my writings when conversing with some.  

As an inhabitant of Georgetown you know of the Cuffy statue. In fact in 1763 the slaves almost drove the Dutch out of Berbice.  There were many other slave rebellions in Guyana and in fact the one in 1823 was partially responsible for the British finally abandoning slavery. 

Constantly spending money to put down slave rebellions, especially in Jamaica and Guyana, proved to be no longer worth it as their Caribbean colonies began to be less valuable.   Turns out that abusing Indians was more profitable for the British Empire.

Drugb posted:
 You can get away with almost anything with uneducated people, so I have to dumb down my writings when conversing with some.  

Druggie the only uneducated people here are you and the rest of the Indo KKK gang.  The rest of us, including PPP supporters who aren't part of the Indo KKK, are more educated.

caribny posted:

As were your ancestors in India so stupid that they fell for a trick that had them spend months on a boat, many dying and then to be treated scarcely better than slaves at the end of the trip.   May dying there too.  They even lived in the same dwellings that the slaves abandoned when they left the plantation.  And yes that whip was sometimes used.

An Indian like you  talking calling black people docile is a joke given that your national anthem "black man a kill ahbe".

How you know I am Indian? Did I make such a claim?  

They Indos gave the english some of the roughest fights ever. The Blacks in comparison were not even worth their while to occupy their lands as there was nothing to plunder other than slaves.  In fact you will recall that the great Mahatma was singlehandedly responsible for the fall of the british empire and forced it to give independence to its colonies. 

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

Even the article by Henry Gates proves my point. Out of almost 4 million slaves, this is just a handful of rebellions in ratio.  You can get away with almost anything with uneducated people, so I have to dumb down my writings when conversing with some.  

As an inhabitant of Georgetown you know of the Cuffy statue. In fact in 1763 the slaves almost drove the Dutch out of Berbice.  There were many other slave rebellions in Guyana and in fact the one in 1823 was partially responsible for the British finally abandoning slavery. 

Constantly spending money to put down slave rebellions, especially in Jamaica and Guyana, proved to be no longer worth it as their Caribbean colonies began to be less valuable.   Turns out that abusing Indians was more profitable for the British Empire.

Read and weep why the british abandoned slavery. They no longer needed slaves as economic interest changed. 

http://abolition.e2bn.org/slavery_111.html

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 You can get away with almost anything with uneducated people, so I have to dumb down my writings when conversing with some.  

Druggie the only uneducated people here are you and the rest of the Indo KKK gang.  The rest of us, including PPP supporters who aren't part of the Indo KKK, are more educated.

The only education that you and others received was at my hands over years. They schooling I gave you must amount to 100's of thousands of US dollars. 

Drugb posted:
 

How you know I am Indian? Did I make such a claim?  

 

You like to show your face on GNI. Yes that time when you swam in the sewerage drain that is the Demerara River.  No wonder you are even more brain damaged than you used to be.

Drugb posted:

Bannas, them slaves were mostly docile and 100's of yall were controlled by 1 white  overseer with  a whip. The 1 and 2 that behave bad were castrated as lesson to the others. I suggest you watch roots and learn how Kunta Kinte chose amputation to castration just so he could carry on the bloodline.  Others were not so fortunate to be given that choice. 

The ignorance of this black skin Dalit progeny of teefmen. For over 200 years the white man beat alyuh rass wid de whip and rule alyuh in India. Over 35 million Indians died and by the time the white man left in 1947 India was a shit nation, reduced to rubble after being a once great civilization. Talk about "docile".

I take no joy in saying this nor mean no disrespect to Indians. I mention it only to educate yuh dumb Dalit ass. Yuh live in a glass house fool! 

Your obsession with black man private parts, slavery, rape and castration is noted. The slave masters were likewise obsessed with it, insomuch that unable to service their wives, they allowed slaves to do it for them. Might this be the reason for your frustration and frequent trips to Newark?

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

How you know I am Indian? Did I make such a claim?  

 

You like to show your face on GNI. Yes that time when you swam in the sewerage drain that is the Demerara River.  No wonder you are even more brain damaged than you used to be.

That wasn't me.

Drugb posted:
 

Read and weep why the british abandoned slavery. They no longer needed slaves as economic interest changed. 

http://abolition.e2bn.org/slavery_111.html

They added up the costs of continuing slavery and putting down endless slave rebellions made it no longer worth it. Sugar was no longer profitable for them. They could well have saved the millions of pounds that they used to compensate the former slave owners by simply abandoning them. But they didn't.

Exploiting your ancestors and forcing them into famines was more to their liking.  Druggie your need to fool yourself that Indians are superior to blacks is one of the most hilarious aspects of your stupidity.  Given the histories of both Guyanese groups, and the fact that most now live in various stages of poverty, such discussion is senseless.

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

How you know I am Indian? Did I make such a claim?  

 

You like to show your face on GNI. Yes that time when you swam in the sewerage drain that is the Demerara River.  No wonder you are even more brain damaged than you used to be.

That wasn't me.

And you screaming about beating Nuff in a race.  That wasn't you either?  Listen take that to Iguana or some other newbie who doesn't know your history.

Drugb posted:
 

They Indos gave the english some of the roughest fights ever. The Blacks in comparison were not even worth their while to occupy their lands as there was nothing to plunder other than slaves.  In fact you will recall that the great Mahatma was singlehandedly responsible for the fall of the british empire and forced it to give independence to its colonies. 

The sad thing is you do not read. Africa was not explored farther up from the coast by whites for centuries because the rivers are fast flowing and drop to the sea rapidly making travel inland seasonal and very hard. Most whites did not know what was inland until late in the 19th century. This was a development trap.

Slaves were brought to the cost by non white traders.  White folks hardly went inland or cared to go.

The decline of the British empire was not as simplistic as Gandhi did it. You are truly living in your own reality.

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

How you know I am Indian? Did I make such a claim?  

 

You like to show your face on GNI. Yes that time when you swam in the sewerage drain that is the Demerara River.  No wonder you are even more brain damaged than you used to be.

That wasn't me.

Dude, I guess the Demerara river water with its assortment of human excrement affected your brain. 

Drugb posted:

How you know I am Indian?

https://guyana.hoop.la/topic/d...our-attention?page=2

Drugb Senior Member

3/24/172:31 PM

Nonsense, I met Andre in the flesh and gave my full name to all, including Mara, Nuff, BK and Andre. That was the event when I shut that loud mouth Daivid Blue, he swallowed his words that no Indo can beat him in a race.  

D2 posted:
Drugb posted:
 

They Indos gave the english some of the roughest fights ever. The Blacks in comparison were not even worth their while to occupy their lands as there was nothing to plunder other than slaves.  In fact you will recall that the great Mahatma was singlehandedly responsible for the fall of the british empire and forced it to give independence to its colonies. 

The sad thing is you do not read. Africa was not explored farther up from the coast by whites for centuries because the rivers are fast flowing and drop to the sea rapidly making travel inland seasonal and very hard. Most whites did not know what was inland until late in the 19th century. This was a development trap.

Slaves were brought to the cost by non white traders.  White folks hardly went inland or cared to go.

The decline of the British empire was not as simplistic as Gandhi did it. You are truly living in your own reality.

Nonsense, the British saw little profit in Africa other than its slave labor. Africa was so backwards compared to the rest of the world that the continent with the exception of he north had very little to exploit. For you to belittle the accomplishments of the Gandhi is wicked and downright low.

Drugb posted:
D2 posted:
Drugb posted:
 

They Indos gave the english some of the roughest fights ever. The Blacks in comparison were not even worth their while to occupy their lands as there was nothing to plunder other than slaves.  In fact you will recall that the great Mahatma was singlehandedly responsible for the fall of the british empire and forced it to give independence to its colonies. 

The sad thing is you do not read. Africa was not explored farther up from the coast by whites for centuries because the rivers are fast flowing and drop to the sea rapidly making travel inland seasonal and very hard. Most whites did not know what was inland until late in the 19th century. This was a development trap.

Slaves were brought to the cost by non white traders.  White folks hardly went inland or cared to go.

The decline of the British empire was not as simplistic as Gandhi did it. You are truly living in your own reality.

Nonsense, the British saw little profit in Africa other than its slave labor. Africa was so backwards compared to the rest of the world that the continent with the exception of he north had very little to exploit. For you to belittle the accomplishments of the Gandhi is wicked and downright low.

If you do not read and are given to useless pontification I cannot help. I give you the reason why the British saw little profit in Africa hence it remained largely unknown to them for a long time. It was highly inaccessible from the coast with ships and demanded long trek with pack animals .  Obviously is bound bountiful since they fought tooth and nail to keep it their share of it. Gandhi is irrelevant to the discussion since he is an artifact of the 20th century and long after slavery was gone.

D2 posted:
If you do not read and are given to useless pontification I cannot help. I give you the reason why the British saw little profit in Africa hence it remained largely unknown to them for a long time. It was highly inaccessible from the coast with ships and demanded long trek with pack animals .  Obviously is bound bountiful since they fought tooth and nail to keep it their share of it. Gandhi is irrelevant to the discussion since he is an artifact of the 20th century and long after slavery was gone.

Nonsense, inland trek did not stop the occupation of south america by the Europeans once they discovered that there was profit to be gained. 

D2 posted:
 Africa was not explored farther up from the coast by whites for centuries because the rivers are fast flowing and drop to the sea rapidly making travel inland seasonal and very hard.

Not true.  The River Niger is navigable at considerable distances from the coast, as are several other rivers.  West Africa is mainly low lying in the near coastal regions in most instances.  The mountains of Nigeria and Ghana, two of the largest suppliers of enslaved peoples, are well inland.

The truth is that the African kingdoms were too powerful, and combined with susceptibility to tropical diseases and the high humidity battling these empires wouldn't have been possible.  The Africans had immunity to various European diseases, so didn't collapse in the way that the various Amerindian empires of Mexico and South America did when the locals died from diseases brought in by the Spanish.

The wealth generated by slaves in the Americas and the importance of this slavery to continue to generate such wealth was such that if it was possible for the Europeans to reduce the cost of slave acquisition from African traders they would have done so.

Silly druggie is too unintelligent and ignorant to know that in the late 17th century and the early 18th Jamaica generated more wealth than did all of the British colonies in North America. And that Martinique generated more than did Quebec.  And of course Ste Domingue (Haiti) was even wealthier than these.

I will watch him run to Wikipedia to post an article that undermines his argument simply because he cannot understand it.

Drugb posted:
 

Nonsense, the British saw little profit in Africa other than its slave labor. Africa was so backwards compared to the rest of the world that the continent with the exception of he north had very little to exploit. For you to belittle the accomplishments of the Gandhi is wicked and downright low.

Druggie silly man.  Research ancient Timbuktu and we can get back to African "backwardness".  When I was in school our history teacher gave us a translation of an account by a Dutch sailor who visited one of the Yoruba kingdoms.  He was very impressed with the efficiency of the cities that he saw and their levels of cleanliness and the fact that they had systems to remove human waste.  Note that these cities weren't much smaller than many in Europe.  Peoples from this part of Africa were also skilled in metallurgy, and those in Ghana (Gold Coast) in gold smelting.

Guess which was the most valuable asset in the USA in 1860.  SLAVES, and that is even after states like NY had already abolished slavery.  Guess which were the richest colonies in the 18th century?  Jamaica, Haiti, Barbados and Brazil. Note that none of these colonies functioned without slaves

So go cry druggie as another attempt by you to paint black worthlessness isn't working.  Without slaves there is NO WAY that colonies in the Caribbean or Brazil would have been so wealthy. And given that they had to BUY these slaves from Africans this means that the available of slaves in West Africa was of great value to them.

Put it another way druggie, but for the Transatlantic slave trade you wouldn't be Guyanese.  You would be starving in some village in Uttar Pradesh, squatting outside of your hut trying to have a bowel movement.

Drugb posted:
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Nonsense, inland trek did not stop the occupation of south america by the Europeans once they discovered that there was profit to be gained. 

Yes when history was taught those Portuguese boys were beating you up.  So brain damaged as you were then, and are today you missed the part about the fact that it was European diseases which led to the collapse of the Inca and Aztec empires.

West Africans had contact with European microbes as they had contact with that region via the Trans Sahara trade. In terms of diseases they had an advantage in that a measles didn't kill them as it did the Amerindians, but malaria certainly killed the northern Europeans.

D2 posted:
 

If you do not read and are given to useless pontification I cannot help. I give you the reason why the British saw little profit in Africa hence it remained largely unknown to them for a long time.

The reason was that the Europeans were vulnerable to tropical diseases.  By the late 19thC when knowledge about treating these diseases became available then tropical regions became populated.

You will note that the temperate parts of Africa (the southern regions) were populated by the 18th C.  The British/Dutch were in South Africa and the Portuguese had a presence in Angola and Mozambique.

Drugb posted:
Drugb posted:
D2 posted:
If you do not read and are given to useless pontification I cannot help. I give you the reason why the British saw little profit in Africa hence it remained largely unknown to them for a long time. It was highly inaccessible from the coast with ships and demanded long trek with pack animals .  Obviously is bound bountiful since they fought tooth and nail to keep it their share of it. Gandhi is irrelevant to the discussion since he is an artifact of the 20th century and long after slavery was gone.

Nonsense, inland trek did not stop the occupation of south america by the Europeans once they discovered that there was profit to be gained. 

Again, your ignorance is in full flowering. I stated why and how it is different and can point you to the writing of many who asked why it took so long to enter the interior of Africa and the reasons supplied.

caribny posted:

Druggie silly man.  Research ancient Timbuktu and we can get back to African "backwardness".  When I was in school our history teacher gave us a translation of an account by a Dutch sailor who visited one of the Yoruba kingdoms.  He was very impressed with the efficiency of the cities that he saw and their levels of cleanliness and the fact that they had systems to remove human waste.  Note that these cities weren't much smaller than many in Europe.  Peoples from this part of Africa were also skilled in metallurgy, and those in Ghana (Gold Coast) in gold smelting.

Guess which was the most valuable asset in the USA in 1860.  SLAVES, and that is even after states like NY had already abolished slavery.  Guess which were the richest colonies in the 18th century?  Jamaica, Haiti, Barbados and Brazil. Note that none of these colonies functioned without slaves

So go cry druggie as another attempt by you to paint black worthlessness isn't working.  Without slaves there is NO WAY that colonies in the Caribbean or Brazil would have been so wealthy. And given that they had to BUY these slaves from Africans this means that the available of slaves in West Africa was of great value to them.

Put it another way druggie, but for the Transatlantic slave trade you wouldn't be Guyanese.  You would be starving in some village in Uttar Pradesh, squatting outside of your hut trying to have a bowel movement.

You don't have to tell me about Timbucku, in the past the comedians used to make fun of Blacks telling them to go back to Timbucktu. In fact it is used primarily as a humor by whites.

Linguistic humor, Timbuktu

The National Poetry Contest had come down to two semifinalists: a Yale graduate and a redneck from Wyoming. They were given a word, then allowed two minutes to study the word and come up with a poem that contained the word. The word they were given was "Timbuktu".

First to recite his poem was the Yale graduate. He stepped to the microphone and said:

Slowly across the desert sand 
Trekked a lonely caravan. 
Men on camels, two by two 
Destination---Timbuktu.

The crowd went crazy! No way could the redneck top that, they thought. The redneck calmly made his way to the microphone and recited:

Me and Tim a-huntin went, 
Met three whores in a pop up tent. 
They was three, and we was two, 
So I bucked one, and Timbuktu. 

The redneck won hands down!

D2 posted:
Drugb posted:
Drugb posted:
D2 posted:
If you do not read and are given to useless pontification I cannot help. I give you the reason why the British saw little profit in Africa hence it remained largely unknown to them for a long time. It was highly inaccessible from the coast with ships and demanded long trek with pack animals .  Obviously is bound bountiful since they fought tooth and nail to keep it their share of it. Gandhi is irrelevant to the discussion since he is an artifact of the 20th century and long after slavery was gone.

Nonsense, inland trek did not stop the occupation of south america by the Europeans once they discovered that there was profit to be gained. 

Again, your ignorance is in full flowering. I stated why and how it is different and can point you to the writing of many who asked why it took so long to enter the interior of Africa and the reasons supplied.

I answered, it was a waste of effort, no profit to gain. Africa's primary resource was its slave labor, why would white man go inland when blacks would do it for them and sell their own people for a few beads 

caribny posted:
D2 posted:
 Africa was not explored farther up from the coast by whites for centuries because the rivers are fast flowing and drop to the sea rapidly making travel inland seasonal and very hard.

Not true.  The River Niger is navigable at considerable distances from the coast, as are several other rivers.  West Africa is mainly low lying in the near coastal regions in most instances.  The mountains of Nigeria and Ghana, two of the largest suppliers of enslaved peoples, are well inland.

The truth is that the African kingdoms were too powerful, and combined with susceptibility to tropical diseases and the high humidity battling these empires wouldn't have been possible.  The Africans had immunity to various European diseases, so didn't collapse in the way that the various Amerindian empires of Mexico and South America did when the locals died from diseases brought in by the Spanish.

The wealth generated by slaves in the Americas and the importance of this slavery to continue to generate such wealth was such that if it was possible for the Europeans to reduce the cost of slave acquisition from African traders they would have done so.

Silly druggie is too unintelligent and ignorant to know that in the late 17th century and the early 18th Jamaica generated more wealth than did all of the British colonies in North America. And that Martinique generated more than did Quebec.  And of course Ste Domingue (Haiti) was even wealthier than these.

I will watch him run to Wikipedia to post an article that undermines his argument simply because he cannot understand it.

Africa in from the 16th century to the era of modern transportation has been problematic. In the study of economics and trade in Africa;  Fernan Broudel noted that

Geography is more important than history. Cultural exchange was even difficult for Africans. To the north was the vast Sahara. then there are the oceans on the other three sides. On the West in the sub Sahara regions, the smooth  sloping coastline prevented ocean going ships from having natural harbor. For centuries much of the ship traffic bypassed the west coast. Ships of the era needed wind for their sails and winds  were not reliable for the return trip to Europe either. It took later understanding of the currents to increase sailing ships here. Consequently little of African trade entered international commerce.

Consequently,  before  railroads and roads and plains,  "external influence filtered only very slowly drop by drop".  Escarpment, rift valleys and few navigable rivers affected development and this is besides the prevailing infecting and disease causing agents as the tsetse. The resulting isolating featrures of geography is seen in the  Linguistic fragmentation  of the region. It contains 1/3 of the language of the world even though it accounts for only 10 percent of the world population.  

Also, despite being larger than Europe its coastline is shorter and there is a lack of coastal indentation, peninsula  for natural harbors. Shallow coastal waters means  ships anchor off shore and smaller boats used to ferry goods.  Then there is the dearth of navigable rivers. Most river mouths are silted up or blocked by sand bars. The low irregular rainfall means that if one waits for deeper water one has only a short window to get up stream if possible.

No river in Africa except the Nile reaches far inland.Africa rivers that are seasonable navigable. These include the the Zaire river which while as prodigious as the amazon but only navigable short distance inland as falls and rapids block ocean going vessels up stream. A similar problem occurs with the Niger; it is not navigable by large ships and have and average dept of 4 meters in the dry season. Economically, much of what was in africa was not valuable enough to bring a return on investment except for Gold, Ivory and Slaves hence ivory and gold coast in West Africa.

You have to come up with rather strong reasons why trade did not develop to a high degree between Europe and Africa ( 16 to 19 century)  given the interior possesses many other things the European needed than slaves.

Drugb posted:

I answered, it was a waste of effort, no profit to gain. Africa's primary resource was its slave labor, why would white man go inland when blacks would do it for them and sell their own people for a few beads 

being shallow you cannot even interrogate there deficiencies of your own reasoning to yourself.

D2 posted:
caribny posted:
 

 

Africa in from the 16th century to the era of modern transportation has been problematic. In the study of economics and trade in Africa;  Fernan Broudel noted that

 

 

Timbuktu in today's Mali was an important of the Muslim civilization and its emperor well integrated into the world of North Africa and the Middle East.  In fact in the rainy season it is navigable as far inland as Mali.

So West Africa wasn't hampered by its isolation.  Do you know that the Kingom of the Kongo had an ambassador to the Vatican as early as the 16th century?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...ese_and_Christianity

The reason why the Americas was settled and not West Africa was because indigenous populations were tremendously weakened and so it was easy for Europeans to displace them. The highlands of Bolivia aren't connected to the Pacific Ocean by ocean and yet by the 16th C Potosi was a booming city.

West Africa had strong militaristic populations and Europeans succumbed to tropical diseases.  The Gold Coast and Nigeria ultimately evolved into very valuable British colonies, so its not that they lacked value. Its that the local empires in the 16-early 19th C were able to resist the incursions of the Europeans.

What you describe better fits central and southern regions of Africa which were isolated from the rest of the world.  The Sahel empires of West Africa were fully integrated into the rest of the world. The scholars at Oxford were fully aware of Timbuktu as a center of scholarship.

D2 posted:
Drugb posted:

I answered, it was a waste of effort, no profit to gain. Africa's primary resource was its slave labor, why would white man go inland when blacks would do it for them and sell their own people for a few beads 

being shallow you cannot even interrogate there deficiencies of your own reasoning to yourself.

Druggie is so silly that he sincerely believes that Africans 
sold their own people for a few beads".  No some people became fantastically wealthy and even now some families with wealth obtained that wealth through slavery.

caribny posted:
D2 posted:
caribny posted:
 

 

Africa in from the 16th century to the era of modern transportation has been problematic. In the study of economics and trade in Africa;  Fernan Broudel noted that

 

 

Timbuktu in today's Mali was an important of the Muslim civilization and its emperor well integrated into the world of North Africa and the Middle East.  In fact in the rainy season it is navigable as far inland as Mali.

So West Africa wasn't hampered by its isolation.  Do you know that the Kingom of the Kongo had an ambassador to the Vatican as early as the 16th century?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...ese_and_Christianity

The reason why the Americas was settled and not West Africa was because indigenous populations were tremendously weakened and so it was easy for Europeans to displace them. The highlands of Bolivia aren't connected to the Pacific Ocean by ocean and yet by the 16th C Potosi was a booming city.

West Africa had strong militaristic populations and Europeans succumbed to tropical diseases.  The Gold Coast and Nigeria ultimately evolved into very valuable British colonies, so its not that they lacked value. Its that the local empires in the 16-early 19th C were able to resist the incursions of the Europeans.

What you describe better fits central and southern regions of Africa which were isolated from the rest of the world.  The Sahel empires of West Africa were fully integrated into the rest of the world. The scholars at Oxford were fully aware of Timbuktu as a center of scholarship.

None of what you said are counter point to what I stated about flourishing trade.  Africa is a big plateau that drops rapidly to the sea. It has no large mountain range to act as a catchment for water. It therefore suffers sporadic dry seasons. 

Indeed there were trade but not in the volume that would initiate large scale investment. It remained that way until the nineteen century. Note the reliance on slave trade terribly weakened the society which at one time suffered tremendously from negative growth rate. That also produced developmental hurdles...lack of man power.

Native Americans held off the white folks for some 200 years. The only reason for the proliferation of whites in new england was because the Narragansett confederation was wiped out in one generation by small pox.

Pontiac also drove Braddock to the sea. He united many of the tribes from Florida to the great lakes to  new england. He signed a treaty to keep then east of the Alleghenies. Of course the white folks broke that the first chance they got. The Indian wars did not end until 19th century with the capture of Geronimo. 

Cities grow at rivers mouth or the rivers edge because of possible inland routes. Cities can grow in outward from the rivers edge but they need waterways to communicate and transport long distances in those times. Otherwise trade remains local.

D2 posted:
 

None of what you said are counter point to what I stated about flourishing trade.  Africa is a big plateau that drops rapidly to the sea. It has no large mountain range to act as a catchment for water. It therefore suffers sporadic dry seasons. 

Indeed there were trade but not in the volume that would initiate large scale investment. It remained that way until the nineteen century. Note the reliance on slave trade terribly weakened the society which at one time suffered tremendously from negative growth rate. That also produced developmental hurdles...lack of man power.

Native Americans held off the white folks for some 200 years. The only reason for the proliferation of whites in new england was because the Narragansett confederation was wiped out in one generation by small pox.

Pontiac also drove Braddock to the sea. He united many of the tribes from Florida to the great lakes to  new england. He signed a treaty to keep then east of the Alleghenies. Of course the white folks broke that the first chance they got. The Indian wars did not end until 19th century with the capture of Geronimo. 

Cities grow at rivers mouth or the rivers edge because of possible inland routes. Cities can grow in outward from the rivers edge but they need waterways to communicate and transport long distances in those times. Otherwise trade remains local.

The Inca and Aztec empires collapsed quickly and within a few decades the Spanish/Portuguese had full domain of the Americas (aside from North America) with the exception of the Amazon basin.    Even in North America there was 16th century population collapse from European diseases.  The Spanish weren't interested at the time, and the others weren't ready to settle these places until into the 17th C.

 

The Europeans scaled the high mountains of Mexico as well as the Andean range, all elevations considerably higher than anything found in West Africa. Having to use mules to do so, no rivers.  So the terrain of Nigeria, Ghana or the Ivory Coast certainly did not prevent Europeans from moving in. 

It was tropical diseases and the fierce resistance of strong militaries which prevented this. The Europeans determined that trading with powerful empires like those of the Yoruba or the Dahomey was more beneficial than attempting to defeat them.  When the British decided to increase its control over the Gold Coast it fought various wars with the Ashanti empire from the 1820s and it was only by the end of the century that the British were able to assume full control.

The trade in slaves from West and West/Central Africa was one of the most valuable at the time.  Many European institutions, such as Barclay's Bank grew wealthy from funding the slave trade. I already stated that the wealth generated out of Jamaica in the 18th century was worth more than of the 13 British colonies which became the USA.  This wealth was based on the slave trade as there was no other source of labor, the indigenous populations already been wiped out and the Europeans incapable of arduous work in humid tropical environments.

So Africa played a critical role in the development of Europe's wealth and economic dominance.

caribny posted:
D2 posted:
Drugb posted:

I answered, it was a waste of effort, no profit to gain. Africa's primary resource was its slave labor, why would white man go inland when blacks would do it for them and sell their own people for a few beads 

being shallow you cannot even interrogate there deficiencies of your own reasoning to yourself.

Druggie is so silly that he sincerely believes that Africans 
sold their own people for a few beads".  No some people became fantastically wealthy and even now some families with wealth obtained that wealth through slavery.

Cribby you missed the timbuktu joke. Anyway mali/timbuktu is a talking point handed to those desperately looking for afro accomplishment in past. What is missing is that they never built on any of the timbuktu accomplishments and regressed.

Enjoy the below.

Linguistic humor, Timbuktu

The National Poetry Contest had come down to two semifinalists: a Yale graduate and a redneck from Wyoming. They were given a word, then allowed two minutes to study the word and come up with a poem that contained the word. The word they were given was "Timbuktu".

First to recite his poem was the Yale graduate. He stepped to the microphone and said:

Slowly across the desert sand 
Trekked a lonely caravan. 
Men on camels, two by two 
Destination---Timbuktu.

The crowd went crazy! No way could the redneck top that, they thought. The redneck calmly made his way to the microphone and recited:

Me and Tim a-huntin went, 
Met three whores in a pop up tent. 
They was three, and we was two, 
So I bucked one, and Timbuktu. 

The redneck won hands down!

Druggie I forgive you.  You actually use comedians as your source of data. 

Knowledgeable people know that at its peak the Mali empire was among the world's wealthiest due to its gold.  The university at Timbuktu was among the most respected.

https://www.therichest.com/cel...sa-musa-net-worth-2/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...t_historical_figures

Its impossible for a man to be rich if his country is remote.  Scroll down to the Middle Ages.

caribny posted:

Druggie I forgive you.  You actually use comedians as your source of data. 

Knowledgeable people know that at its peak the Mali empire was among the world's wealthiest due to its gold.  The university at Timbuktu was among the most respected.

https://www.therichest.com/cel...sa-musa-net-worth-2/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...t_historical_figures

Its impossible for a man to be rich if his country is remote.  Scroll down to the Middle Ages.

Even more distressing is that his riches were for naught as it did not benefit his people I  the long run! Another example of African demise.

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

Druggie I forgive you.  You actually use comedians as your source of data. 

Knowledgeable people know that at its peak the Mali empire was among the world's wealthiest due to its gold.  The university at Timbuktu was among the most respected.

https://www.therichest.com/cel...sa-musa-net-worth-2/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...t_historical_figures

Its impossible for a man to be rich if his country is remote.  Scroll down to the Middle Ages.

Even more distressing is that his riches were for naught as it did not benefit his people I  the long run! Another example of African demise.

And did all the riches of the feudal lords benefit you ancestors who were so poor that they got kidnapped to Guyana?  Even in 2018 India is a disaster.  Wife burning, child slavery, caste abuse.

Leave  Africa alone.  Your India has tons of problems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bride_burning

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

Druggie I forgive you.  You actually use comedians as your source of data. 

Knowledgeable people know that at its peak the Mali empire was among the world's wealthiest due to its gold.  The university at Timbuktu was among the most respected.

https://www.therichest.com/cel...sa-musa-net-worth-2/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...t_historical_figures

Its impossible for a man to be rich if his country is remote.  Scroll down to the Middle Ages.

Even more distressing is that his riches were for naught as it did not benefit his people I  the long run! Another example of African demise.

And did all the riches of the feudal lords benefit you ancestors who were so poor that they got kidnapped to Guyana?  Even in 2018 India is a disaster.  Wife burning, child slavery, caste abuse.

Leave  Africa alone.  Your India has tons of problems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bride_burning

Hope you realise, that's not Drugb's writing style. Someone else is using his handle. 

Mitwah posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

Druggie I forgive you.  You actually use comedians as your source of data. 

Knowledgeable people know that at its peak the Mali empire was among the world's wealthiest due to its gold.  The university at Timbuktu was among the most respected.

https://www.therichest.com/cel...sa-musa-net-worth-2/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...t_historical_figures

Its impossible for a man to be rich if his country is remote.  Scroll down to the Middle Ages.

Even more distressing is that his riches were for naught as it did not benefit his people I  the long run! Another example of African demise.

And did all the riches of the feudal lords benefit you ancestors who were so poor that they got kidnapped to Guyana?  Even in 2018 India is a disaster.  Wife burning, child slavery, caste abuse.

Leave  Africa alone.  Your India has tons of problems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bride_burning

Hope you realise, that's not Drugb's writing style. Someone else is using his handle. 

Dat man family rent out he handle for $2 a post, the dead tells no tales. 

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

Druggie I forgive you.  You actually use comedians as your source of data. 

Knowledgeable people know that at its peak the Mali empire was among the world's wealthiest due to its gold.  The university at Timbuktu was among the most respected.

https://www.therichest.com/cel...sa-musa-net-worth-2/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...t_historical_figures

Its impossible for a man to be rich if his country is remote.  Scroll down to the Middle Ages.

Even more distressing is that his riches were for naught as it did not benefit his people I  the long run! Another example of African demise.

And did all the riches of the feudal lords benefit you ancestors who were so poor that they got kidnapped to Guyana?  Even in 2018 India is a disaster.  Wife burning, child slavery, caste abuse.

Leave  Africa alone.  Your India has tons of problems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bride_burning

Again, incorrect analysis, the indos brought to guyana were the poorest of the poor. Even here in america we have have bottom scrapers who barely survive, you should know these types. The indentured servants were desperate and signed on with the british for what they considered a chance at economic redemption. But compare India today and understand what the differences are, a nuclear power Indian, a shithole continent, Africa according to DT.   

Drugb posted:
Mitwah posted:

Drugb, I thought you said you died. 

The previous drugb passed away. Now stop fixating on antiman gossip and focus on the trashing that your party took in the lge. 

...previous drugb not dead. He just get mo bassidy and schupid based on de blows he duz tek from wan professional, well educated black homan dat does buss he ass. Drugb de mighty Indian warria mannersed by wan black homan. Yuh kyant beat dat.

Iguana posted:
Drugb posted:
Mitwah posted:

Drugb, I thought you said you died. 

The previous drugb passed away. Now stop fixating on antiman gossip and focus on the trashing that your party took in the lge. 

...previous drugb not dead. He just get mo bassidy and schupid based on de blows he duz tek from wan professional, well educated black homan dat does buss he ass. Drugb de mighty Indian warria mannersed by wan black homan. Yuh kyant beat dat.

Dead man tell no tales.

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