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At the sod turning: from left are Head of NICIL Colvin Heath-London, Minister of Business Haimraj Rajkumar, John Aboud and Minister of Finance Winston Jordan.

-sod turning to be held soon – says NICIL

February 14 2020

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Even as it declared that all transactions for the recently announced US$75 million AC Marriott Hotel are above board, the National Industrial and Commercial Investments Limited (NICIL) yesterday disclosed that the major US brand Hilton Hotel is also coming to Guyana at the same Ogle location.

NICIL did not say who the investors are for that project but disclosed that a sod-turning ceremony will be held next Wednesday at Ogle.

Yesterday, the government holding company which turned the sod for a US$75 million AC Marriott Hotel that is expected to soon begin construction aback the former Ogle Estate and alongside the Bertrand Collins Public Service College, defended the sale of the land.

It had the day before announced that Trinuyana Investments Incorporated of Guyana, a company owned by Trinidad and Tobago businessman, John Aboud, is the investor and that the hotel is expected to create about 400 jobs during its construction phase and some 200 permanent jobs when completed.

While NICIL informed that both it and the company were happy with the negotiations and the investment, no details on the terms of the agreement were given.

Yesterday, head of NICIL, Colvin Heath-London, and acting Priva-tization Specialist, Rachael Henry, said that Trinuyana was sold 2.16 acres at a cost of over $26 million (US$130,000) per acre. London assured that government evaluators had assessed the parcel of land and this was how the cost was arrived at. He said that expressions of interest for the land were invited in 2017.

And while not naming the investment team of which he leads, Aboud said that he expects funding for the US$75 million project will come through Republic Bank Limited (RBL) with which he has longstanding good financial relations.

“The group of investors which I have the honour to lead have had a long and successful career in the real estate development and management stretching from Florida in the north to Trinidad in the South and now Guyana. We have developed in excess of two million square feet of real estate and continue to manage all of it. Our expertise range from office buildings to retail shopping malls, to industrial parks, to special purpose buildings. And more recently, a Marriott Hotel in Trinidad and [a] world-class amusement and water park, also in Trinidad and carded to be opened in the middle of next month, God willing,” he said.

“As investors and developers, we are always on the lookout for investment and development opportunities and it was not difficult to identify Guyana as a country that has infinite possibilities into the future, not only because of your recent good fortune in oil and gas, but the tremendous opportunities this will provide Guyana in developing the vast natural resources be it in mining, agriculture or tourism…,” he added.

As it pertains to environmental regulations, head of the Environmental Protection Agency, Dr. Vincent Adams, has told this newspaper that the agency received a permit application for the hotel and that it was being processed. Aboud said that the company awaits all regulatory permissions, which he believes will be granted based on the fact that the company not only has a sound financial but environmental plan. He also underscored his company’s commitment to its corporate social responsibilities and said that Guyanese can be assured that he will not derogate from  his duties.

He also dismissed suggestions that the company had not received permission to use the AC Marriott Brand saying that he already had documentation to this end. “An AC Marriott will be built here,” he stressed.

Aboud explained that discussions with NICIL started sometime in March of 2019 and his company was incorporated here in July. The agreement for the project, he said, was signed after the incorporation of the company but he could not at the time remember the exact date.

He said that the lands were proposed to the company when it held discussions about investments here and projects with the Guyana Office for Investment (GO-Invest).

The agreement raises questions about the timing of the announcement, as records from the Deeds Registry, seen by Stabroek News, show that the company was only registered here in July of 2019.

But Aboud said that Guyana’s current political situation has no bearing on his company since business transcends politics and it was thus not taken into consideration for the investment. “We assume that Guyana will still be here after the elections. We are here for business and not politics,” he said.

The businessman, who has been coming here for over six years and also owns Amalgamated Security Services Limited, said that he is currently in negotiations with GO-Invest to get concessions that are in keeping with an investment of that nature.

Head of GO-Invest Owen Verwey told Stabroek News that negotiations for the concessions started last week Friday and his office was going over the commitments of the company to Guyana before an agreement could be reached. “We have to ensure that they are putting this country first and are in keeping with what is expected,” he said.

Verwey explained that the concessions looked for will be in keeping with those for hotel projects such as on materials and a five-year tax holiday on corporate income taxes.

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ksazma posted:

Do private enterprises need participation from NICIL for their ventures?

https://finance.gov.gy/about-u...ments-limited-nicil/

NICIL was incorporated as a Private Limited Company under the Companies Act, Chapter 89:01 in July 1990. A new Companies Act was enacted in 1991 with effect from May 1995 by the Companies Act (Commencement) Order, No. 25 of 1995 and NICIL was registered as a continuing company pursuant to Section 339 of the new Act in 1998. NICIL is 100 percent owned by the Government of Guyana.

The primary objectives of the company were that of subscribing for, taking or otherwise acquiring, holding and managing the Government’s shares, stocks, debentures or other securities of any company, co-operative societies or other corporate body. This meant that all Government shareholdings in public corporations and companies including those falling under the Public Corporations Secretariat, and the Co-operative Finance Administration Institutions were to be transferred to NICIL. The objective was to have a unified and systematic management of Government’s shareholdings.

NICIL engages in many activities such as:

  • being the holding company for Government owned minority/majority interests, property management which includes the acquisition / disposal / rental of Government owned properties,
  • Monitoring Government’s equity in other companies and acting as agents for other Government agencies in the disposal of properties or management of companies.

NICIL has a Board of Directors that consists of Minister of Finance, the Head of the Presidential Secretariat, the CEO of Go-Invest, an opposition representative and the Executive Director of NICIL.

Django

Yesterday, head of NICIL, Colvin Heath-London, and acting Priva-tization Specialist, Rachael Henry, said that Trinuyana was sold 2.16 acres at a cost of over $26 million (US$130,000) per acre. London assured that government evaluators had assessed the parcel of land and this was how the cost was arrived at. He said that expressions of interest for the land were invited in 2017.

 What are your thoughts about the sale of the land ,is it under priced ?

Noticeably there are differences in this investment and the first Marriot Hotel built in Guyana. This the way to go ,let the Private sector be an actor in development.

Django
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Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Do private enterprises need participation from NICIL for their ventures?

https://finance.gov.gy/about-u...ments-limited-nicil/

NICIL was incorporated as a Private Limited Company under the Companies Act, Chapter 89:01 in July 1990. A new Companies Act was enacted in 1991 with effect from May 1995 by the Companies Act (Commencement) Order, No. 25 of 1995 and NICIL was registered as a continuing company pursuant to Section 339 of the new Act in 1998. NICIL is 100 percent owned by the Government of Guyana.

The primary objectives of the company were that of subscribing for, taking or otherwise acquiring, holding and managing the Government’s shares, stocks, debentures or other securities of any company, co-operative societies or other corporate body. This meant that all Government shareholdings in public corporations and companies including those falling under the Public Corporations Secretariat, and the Co-operative Finance Administration Institutions were to be transferred to NICIL. The objective was to have a unified and systematic management of Government’s shareholdings.

NICIL engages in many activities such as:

  • being the holding company for Government owned minority/majority interests, property management which includes the acquisition / disposal / rental of Government owned properties,
  • Monitoring Government’s equity in other companies and acting as agents for other Government agencies in the disposal of properties or management of companies.

NICIL has a Board of Directors that consists of Minister of Finance, the Head of the Presidential Secretariat, the CEO of Go-Invest, an opposition representative and the Executive Director of NICIL.

Therefore, the AC Marriott as well as the Hilton are not sole private enterprises so shouldn't NICIL disclose what level of participation they have in these ventures?

FM
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Do private enterprises need participation from NICIL for their ventures?

Therefore, the AC Marriott as well as the Hilton are not sole private enterprises so shouldn't NICIL disclose what level of participation they have in these ventures?

Guess you miss the investments by miles , they are only involved in the sale of lands ,stated in the article.

Totally different management principles than the previous management under the former government,who were using graft schemes.

Django
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All these transactions is illegal. 

Deal duplicitous, lacks transparency, elections gimmick – Opposition Leader

2nd Marriott in Guyana

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo has called out the David Granger-led Government for its “hypocrisy” as well as lack of transparency surrounding a deal undertaken to construct a new Marriott Hotel in Guyana.

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo

While the APNU/AFC were in opposition, they had heavily criticised the PPP Administration for pioneering the current Marriott hotel; however, on Wednesday, it was announced that the caretaker APNU/AFC Administration made a secret move with the National Industrial and Commercial Investment Limited (NICIL) to facilitate the construction of another hotel under the same brand.
On Thursday, Jagdeo addressed the matter at his weekly press conference, stating that while investors are welcomed in Guyana, the secrecy of the arrangement was surprising.

Flashback: Minister Ronald Bulkan confronts a Police Officer during a protest in 2015 during the opening of the Marriott Hotel (Stabroek News photo)

He pointed out that there are many aspects of the deal which have not been revealed.
Calling the deal, a “campaign strategy” and an elections gimmick by the coalition Govt, the Opposition Leader stated that it is uncertain whether permission was given from Marriott to use the name – a company which manages a string of hotels worldwide. This was confirmed by the investor later on Thursday who admitted that there is no franchise agreement in place.
“We welcome investment in new hotels and we welcome investors to Guyana but what was surprising about this is the secrecy through which the whole arrangement or deal was struck. And so we sought to get some answers about what the land deal was all about, how many land deals were given to the investor and what price; not just for the hotel but for the surrounding areas,” the Opposition Leader informed.

AFC General Secretary and now Public Infrastructure Minister among protesters at the opening of the Marriott in 2015 (News Source photo)

He added, “From what I gather too, no environmental permit has been issued so the Government talked about this project starting next month is designed for campaign purposes because there is no environmental permit as yet. We’ve also sought to find out if Marriott has officially approved this because it’s a laborious process that we had to go through to get Marriott to agree to use their brand in Guyana”.
Moreover, Jagdeo reminded that when the PPP/C Administration had embarked on constructing the current Marriott Hotel, it faced intense levels of scrutiny from the public as well as heavy criticism from the then APNU/AFC Opposition. In fact, the applicants were even taken to court to have the construction of the hotel blocked. The APNU/AFC held several protests in front the Marriott and on the day of its opening its members including some who are now ministers turned up in front of the five-star hotel and confronted Police who attempted to calm the situation.

Director-General Joseph Harmon protesting outside the Marriot Hotel project while in Opposition

During the 2015 elections campaign, the coalition party had talked about selling off the multi-million-dollar tourism flagship project as well as making it into a hospital facility. While in Opposition during the 10th Parliament, the APNU and AFC had criticised the construction of the Marriott Hotel and other major projects undertaken by the then People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) Administration. They had conducted picketing exercises in front of the hotel from the inception of its construction in 2011. In 2012, Khemraj Ramjattan had introduced legislation to block the PPP’s move to construct the Marriott.

Worthy investment
Reflecting on the highly criticised project, the former President contended that it was a worthy investment.
“You will see some of the very players in Government, how duplicitous they have been…Now this is one of the most profitable Marriotts in the world. The one that we have here in Guyana. It’s covering all its costs and it’s doing extremely well. This just shows you the level of scrutiny and hurdles that we had to overcome to get that Marriott built and the same people who are saying that it’s a ‘choke and rob’ operation…now NICIL has secretly done this and sprung it on us just yesterday (Wednesday)”.
In a statement on Wednesday, NICIL’s acting Privatisation Specialist, Racheal Henry, disclosed the agency and the CEO of Triniyuana Investment Inc, John Aboud, held discussions before arriving at the decision to construct the hotel.

FM
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Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:

Do private enterprises need participation from NICIL for their ventures?

Therefore, the AC Marriott as well as the Hilton are not sole private enterprises so shouldn't NICIL disclose what level of participation they have in these ventures?

Guess you miss the investments by miles , they are only involved in the sale of lands ,stated in the article.

Totally different management principles than the previous management under the former government,who were using graft schemes.

Where did the article did it state that they are ONLY involved in the sale of the land? The article clearly stated that "While NICIL informed that both it and the company were happy with the negotiations and the investment, no details on the terms of the agreement were given." It stated nothing about only being involved in selling a piece of land. And who show up to turn soil on a piece of land they only sell?

FM
Django posted:

The Opposition leader can bawl how much he wants ,their models were graft schemes.

Let him prove the illegality.

Bai, you like dem Republican Senators. 

Everything the Coalition do after December 21, 2018 is illegal.

FM
ksazma posted:
Django posted:

The Opposition leader can bawl how much he wants ,their models were graft schemes.

Let him prove the illegality.

Bai, you like dem Republican Senators. 

Everything the Coalition do after December 21, 2018 is illegal.

Currently Parliament is dissolve, only the President and opposition stays , ministers has no ministerial powers and surprisingly, this banna don't see anything illegal... this is funny rass. 

Interesting to see what he will say if PPPC was sitting in government and signing away contract when parliament is dissolve and we are in the middle of a election campaign. 

From personal experience NICIL inform us ( our family ) they cannot sign of on a pending project and we have to wait until after election. 

Somebody is getting paid off here big time.

FM
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:

The Opposition leader can bawl how much he wants ,their models were graft schemes.

Let him prove the illegality.

Bai, you like dem Republican Senators. 

Everything the Coalition do after December 21, 2018 is illegal.

Currently Parliament is dissolve, only the President and opposition stays , ministers has no ministerial powers and surprisingly, this banna don't see anything illegal... this is funny rass. 

Interesting to see what he will say if PPPC was sitting in government and signing away contract when parliament is dissolve and we are in the middle of a election campaign. 

From personal experience NICIL inform us ( our family ) they cannot sign of on a pending project and we have to wait until after election. 

Somebody is getting paid off here big time.

Bai, Django wutliss. It seems that he is prepared to give his life for the wicked PNC.

FM
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:

The Opposition leader can bawl how much he wants ,their models were graft schemes.

Let him prove the illegality.

Bai, you like dem Republican Senators. 

Everything the Coalition do after December 21, 2018 is illegal.

Currently Parliament is dissolve, only the President and opposition stays , ministers has no ministerial powers and surprisingly, this banna don't see anything illegal... this is funny rass. 

Interesting to see what he will say if PPPC was sitting in government and signing away contract when parliament is dissolve and we are in the middle of a election campaign. 

From personal experience NICIL inform us ( our family ) they cannot sign of on a pending project and we have to wait until after election. 

Somebody is getting paid off here big time.

What NICIL have to do with the family project ?  here is a scenario , i own a piece of land , have the financing, have a franchise for brand of hotel ,do NICIL have to be involved. Help Django out with the loop holes of business investments ,in Guyana.

Django
Django posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:

The Opposition leader can bawl how much he wants ,their models were graft schemes.

Let him prove the illegality.

Bai, you like dem Republican Senators. 

Everything the Coalition do after December 21, 2018 is illegal.

Currently Parliament is dissolve, only the President and opposition stays , ministers has no ministerial powers and surprisingly, this banna don't see anything illegal... this is funny rass. 

Interesting to see what he will say if PPPC was sitting in government and signing away contract when parliament is dissolve and we are in the middle of a election campaign. 

From personal experience NICIL inform us ( our family ) they cannot sign of on a pending project and we have to wait until after election. 

Somebody is getting paid off here big time.

What NICIL have to do with the family project ?  here is a scenario , i own a piece of land , have the financing, have a franchise for brand of hotel ,do NICIL have to be involved. Help Django out with the loop holes of business investments ,in Guyana.

Because of the magnitude of the project and acquisition of additional land. NICIL is government own and is responsible for disposal and renting of government land - hope this helps.

FM
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:

The Opposition leader can bawl how much he wants ,their models were graft schemes.

Let him prove the illegality.

Bai, you like dem Republican Senators. 

Everything the Coalition do after December 21, 2018 is illegal.

Currently Parliament is dissolve, only the President and opposition stays , ministers has no ministerial powers and surprisingly, this banna don't see anything illegal... this is funny rass. 

Interesting to see what he will say if PPPC was sitting in government and signing away contract when parliament is dissolve and we are in the middle of a election campaign. 

From personal experience NICIL inform us ( our family ) they cannot sign of on a pending project and we have to wait until after election. 

Somebody is getting paid off here big time.

What NICIL have to do with the family project ?  here is a scenario , i own a piece of land , have the financing, have a franchise for brand of hotel ,do NICIL have to be involved. Help Django out with the loop holes of business investments ,in Guyana.

Because of the magnitude of the project and acquisition of additional land. NICIL is government own and is responsible for disposal and renting of government land - hope this helps.

Thank you ,different piece of cake.

Here is how NICIL became Government  owned.

NICIL was incorporated as a Private Limited Company under the Companies Act, Chapter 89:01 in July 1990.

A new Companies Act was enacted in 1991 with effect from May 1995 by the Companies Act (Commencement) Order, No. 25 of 1995 and NICIL was registered as a continuing company

pursuant to Section 339 of the new Act in 1998. NICIL is 100 percent owned by the Government of Guyana.

Django
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:

The Opposition leader can bawl how much he wants ,their models were graft schemes.

Let him prove the illegality.

Bai, you like dem Republican Senators. 

Everything the Coalition do after December 21, 2018 is illegal.

Currently Parliament is dissolve, only the President and opposition stays , ministers has no ministerial powers and surprisingly, this banna don't see anything illegal... this is funny rass. 

Interesting to see what he will say if PPPC was sitting in government and signing away contract when parliament is dissolve and we are in the middle of a election campaign. 

From personal experience NICIL inform us ( our family ) they cannot sign of on a pending project and we have to wait until after election. 

Somebody is getting paid off here big time.

What NICIL have to do with the family project ?  here is a scenario , i own a piece of land , have the financing, have a franchise for brand of hotel ,do NICIL have to be involved. Help Django out with the loop holes of business investments ,in Guyana.

Because of the magnitude of the project and acquisition of additional land. NICIL is government own and is responsible for disposal and renting of government land - hope this helps.

Thank you ,different piece of cake.

Here is how NICIL became Government  owned.

NICIL was incorporated as a Private Limited Company under the Companies Act, Chapter 89:01 in July 1990.

A new Companies Act was enacted in 1991 with effect from May 1995 by the Companies Act (Commencement) Order, No. 25 of 1995 and NICIL was registered as a continuing company

pursuant to Section 339 of the new Act in 1998. NICIL is 100 percent owned by the Government of Guyana.

I thought you will  show this below, since it has more relevance to the question / subject.

NICIL engages in many activities such as:

  • being the holding company for Government owned minority/majority interests, property management which includes the acquisition / disposal / rental of Government owned properties,
  • Monitoring Government’s equity in other companies and acting as agents for other Government agencies in the disposal of properties or management of companies.

NICIL has a Board of Directors that consists of Minister of Finance, the Head of the Presidential Secretariat, the CEO of Go-Invest, an opposition representative and the Executive Director of NICIL.

FM
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:

The Opposition leader can bawl how much he wants ,their models were graft schemes.

Let him prove the illegality.

Bai, you like dem Republican Senators. 

Everything the Coalition do after December 21, 2018 is illegal.

Currently Parliament is dissolve, only the President and opposition stays , ministers has no ministerial powers and surprisingly, this banna don't see anything illegal... this is funny rass. 

Interesting to see what he will say if PPPC was sitting in government and signing away contract when parliament is dissolve and we are in the middle of a election campaign. 

From personal experience NICIL inform us ( our family ) they cannot sign of on a pending project and we have to wait until after election. 

Somebody is getting paid off here big time.

What NICIL have to do with the family project ?  here is a scenario , i own a piece of land , have the financing, have a franchise for brand of hotel ,do NICIL have to be involved. Help Django out with the loop holes of business investments ,in Guyana.

Because of the magnitude of the project and acquisition of additional land. NICIL is government own and is responsible for disposal and renting of government land - hope this helps.

Thank you ,different piece of cake.

Here is how NICIL became Government  owned.

NICIL was incorporated as a Private Limited Company under the Companies Act, Chapter 89:01 in July 1990.

A new Companies Act was enacted in 1991 with effect from May 1995 by the Companies Act (Commencement) Order, No. 25 of 1995 and NICIL was registered as a continuing company

pursuant to Section 339 of the new Act in 1998. NICIL is 100 percent owned by the Government of Guyana.

I thought you will  show this below, since it has more relevance to the question / subject.

NICIL engages in many activities such as:

  • being the holding company for Government owned minority/majority interests, property management which includes the acquisition / disposal / rental of Government owned properties,
  • Monitoring Government’s equity in other companies and acting as agents for other Government agencies in the disposal of properties or management of companies.

NICIL has a Board of Directors that consists of Minister of Finance, the Head of the Presidential Secretariat, the CEO of Go-Invest, an opposition representative and the Executive Director of NICIL.

The real issue was when NICIL became 100 % Government owned.

For one to understand the sole purpose why NICIL was established ,one have to go back to Hoyte era and Economic Recovery Program. Perhaps a section of the people are comfortable with the transition from Private Company to Government owned.

Django
Dave posted:
Django posted:
 

 

Here is how NICIL became Government  owned.

NICIL was incorporated as a Private Limited Company under the Companies Act, Chapter 89:01 in July 1990.

A new Companies Act was enacted in 1991 with effect from May 1995 by the Companies Act (Commencement) Order, No. 25 of 1995 and NICIL was registered as a continuing company

pursuant to Section 339 of the new Act in 1998. NICIL is 100 percent owned by the Government of Guyana.

I thought you will  show this below, since it has more relevance to the question / subject.

NICIL engages in many activities such as:

  • being the holding company for Government owned minority/majority interests, property management which includes the acquisition / disposal / rental of Government owned properties,
  • Monitoring Government’s equity in other companies and acting as agents for other Government agencies in the disposal of properties or management of companies.

NICIL has a Board of Directors that consists of Minister of Finance, the Head of the Presidential Secretariat, the CEO of Go-Invest, an opposition representative and the Executive Director of NICIL.

Exactly my point. NICIL doesn't just turn soil just because they sell a piece of land. Land they currently has no authority to sell given the current paralyzed state of the Coalition.

FM
Django posted:
 

The real issue was when NICIL became 100 % Government owned.

For one to understand the sole purpose why NICIL was established ,one have to go back to Hoyte era and Economic Recovery Program. Perhaps a section of the people are comfortable with the transition from Private Company to Government owned.

Given that no changes have been made in the past 5 years, it is safe to say that the Coalition is comfortable with its current status. What happened with all their grand promises to correct issues?

FM

Why allow Trinidad to invest in Guyana? They said plantain chips will spoil; oil would not. Would the investor renounce his Trinidadian citizenship and become a Guyanese citizen? Let's see where his heart is.

FM
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
 

The real issue was when NICIL became 100 % Government owned.

For one to understand the sole purpose why NICIL was established ,one have to go back to Hoyte era and Economic Recovery Program. Perhaps a section of the people are comfortable with the transition from Private Company to Government owned.

Given that no changes have been made in the past 5 years, it is safe to say that the Coalition is comfortable with its current status. What happened with all their grand promises to correct issues?

The coalition government was stymied to govern, from day one by the Opposition Party ,the party couldn't stand the loss of government.

Check the time line from 2015

Django
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
 

The real issue was when NICIL became 100 % Government owned.

For one to understand the sole purpose why NICIL was established ,one have to go back to Hoyte era and Economic Recovery Program. Perhaps a section of the people are comfortable with the transition from Private Company to Government owned.

Given that no changes have been made in the past 5 years, it is safe to say that the Coalition is comfortable with its current status. What happened with all their grand promises to correct issues?

The coalition government was stymied to govern, from day one by the Opposition Party ,the party couldn't stand the loss of government.

Check the time line from 2015

Huh!!! If this was the case, what happened after the NCM? Even being illegal after the NCM, they blatantly touted their dictatorial powers? What stopped them before the NCM? Channel your logic before the NCM.

FM
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
 

The real issue was when NICIL became 100 % Government owned.

For one to understand the sole purpose why NICIL was established ,one have to go back to Hoyte era and Economic Recovery Program. Perhaps a section of the people are comfortable with the transition from Private Company to Government owned.

Given that no changes have been made in the past 5 years, it is safe to say that the Coalition is comfortable with its current status. What happened with all their grand promises to correct issues?

The coalition government was stymied to govern, from day one by the Opposition Party ,the party couldn't stand the loss of government.

Check the time line from 2015

So how come the Opposition didn't stymy the Coalition from giving themselves huge undeserved salary increases? Yuh just mekking excuses for the indefensible cabal. The illegal Coalition still doing shit right now that they would not be doing if they were decent and honest.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
 

The real issue was when NICIL became 100 % Government owned.

For one to understand the sole purpose why NICIL was established ,one have to go back to Hoyte era and Economic Recovery Program. Perhaps a section of the people are comfortable with the transition from Private Company to Government owned.

Given that no changes have been made in the past 5 years, it is safe to say that the Coalition is comfortable with its current status. What happened with all their grand promises to correct issues?

The coalition government was stymied to govern, from day one by the Opposition Party ,the party couldn't stand the loss of government.

Check the time line from 2015

Huh!!! If this was the case, what happened after the NCM? Even being illegal after the NCM, they blatantly touted their dictatorial powers? What stopped them before the NCM? Channel your logic before the NCM.

Banna ,it's clear as a sunny day .Will further say not ,the abhi pun tap syndrome ,need medication.

Django
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
 

The real issue was when NICIL became 100 % Government owned.

For one to understand the sole purpose why NICIL was established ,one have to go back to Hoyte era and Economic Recovery Program. Perhaps a section of the people are comfortable with the transition from Private Company to Government owned.

Given that no changes have been made in the past 5 years, it is safe to say that the Coalition is comfortable with its current status. What happened with all their grand promises to correct issues?

The coalition government was stymied to govern, from day one by the Opposition Party ,the party couldn't stand the loss of government.

Check the time line from 2015

Huh!!! If this was the case, what happened after the NCM? Even being illegal after the NCM, they blatantly touted their dictatorial powers? What stopped them before the NCM? Channel your logic before the NCM.

Banna ,it's clear as a sunny day .Will further say not ,the abhi pun tap syndrome ,need medication.

Bai Django, you will give cows green-tinted glasses to eat dry grass in Guyana.

FM
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:
 

The coalition government was stymied to govern, from day one by the Opposition Party ,the party couldn't stand the loss of government.

Check the time line from 2015

Huh!!! If this was the case, what happened after the NCM? Even being illegal after the NCM, they blatantly touted their dictatorial powers? What stopped them before the NCM? Channel your logic before the NCM.

Banna ,it's clear as a sunny day .Will further say not ,the abhi pun tap syndrome ,need medication.

Does the Blackman fuh Blackman syndrome need any medication bai? 

FM
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
 

The real issue was when NICIL became 100 % Government owned.

For one to understand the sole purpose why NICIL was established ,one have to go back to Hoyte era and Economic Recovery Program. Perhaps a section of the people are comfortable with the transition from Private Company to Government owned.

Given that no changes have been made in the past 5 years, it is safe to say that the Coalition is comfortable with its current status. What happened with all their grand promises to correct issues?

The coalition government wasstymied to govern, from day one by the Opposition Party ,the party couldn't stand the loss of government.

Check the time line from 2015

Have you lost your mind.

It  was the PNC who created havoc during Jagdeo term with looting and mass protest, resulting in shutting down the country from  1999 to 2011. 

From 2011 to 2015  it was APNU- AFC that used it one seat majority to its advantage in parliament.

2018 NCM lost   - and your government is still squatting in office.

Do you reread your comments before hitting send. 

 

 

FM
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
 

The real issue was when NICIL became 100 % Government owned.

For one to understand the sole purpose why NICIL was established ,one have to go back to Hoyte era and Economic Recovery Program. Perhaps a section of the people are comfortable with the transition from Private Company to Government owned.

Given that no changes have been made in the past 5 years, it is safe to say that the Coalition is comfortable with its current status. What happened with all their grand promises to correct issues?

The coalition government was stymied to govern, from day one by the Opposition Party ,the party couldn't stand the loss of government.

Check the time line from 2015

So how come the Opposition didn't stymy the Coalition from giving themselves huge undeserved salary increases?

Yuh just mekking excuses for the indefensible cabal. The illegal Coalition still doing shit right now that they would not be doing if they were decent and honest.

Banna, have your cake, all by your self.

Salary increases which the Government and all Parliamentarians enjoying have noting to do with my statement ,regarding the government being stymied from governing.

Countries don't progress and developed ,when "abhi pun tap" syndrome ,grabbing for power by political party exists.

Django
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

APNU trying to excite people with promises of progress just to get votes.  The last five years is what they should be judged by and not the promises they're making now.

Plus it is illegal for them to do all this shit now but despots never care about legality.

FM
Dave posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
 

The real issue was when NICIL became 100 % Government owned.

For one to understand the sole purpose why NICIL was established ,one have to go back to Hoyte era and Economic Recovery Program. Perhaps a section of the people are comfortable with the transition from Private Company to Government owned.

Given that no changes have been made in the past 5 years, it is safe to say that the Coalition is comfortable with its current status. What happened with all their grand promises to correct issues?

The coalition government wasstymied to govern, from day one by the Opposition Party ,the party couldn't stand the loss of government.

Check the time line from 2015

Have you lost your mind.

It  was the PNC who created havoc during Jagdeo term with looting and mass protest, resulting in shutting down the country from  1999 to 2011. 

From 2011 to 2015  it was APNU- AFC that used it one seat majority to its advantage in parliament.

2018 NCM lost   - and your government is still squatting in office.

Do you reread your comments before hitting send. 

 

 

I believe Django is in a state of denial or he lost his grip on reality.

FM
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
 

The real issue was when NICIL became 100 % Government owned.

For one to understand the sole purpose why NICIL was established ,one have to go back to Hoyte era and Economic Recovery Program. Perhaps a section of the people are comfortable with the transition from Private Company to Government owned.

Given that no changes have been made in the past 5 years, it is safe to say that the Coalition is comfortable with its current status. What happened with all their grand promises to correct issues?

The coalition government was stymied to govern, from day one by the Opposition Party ,the party couldn't stand the loss of government.

Check the time line from 2015

So how come the Opposition didn't stymy the Coalition from giving themselves huge undeserved salary increases?

Yuh just mekking excuses for the indefensible cabal. The illegal Coalition still doing shit right now that they would not be doing if they were decent and honest.

Banna, have your cake, all by your self.

Salary increases which the Government and all Parliamentarians enjoying have noting to do with my statement ,regarding the government being stymied from governing.

Countries don't progress and developed ,when "abhi pun tap" syndrome ,grabbing for power by political party exists.

How did they get approval for the huge undeserved salary increases?

Ah notice yuh don't have any opinions on if Blackman fuh Blackman syndrome need any medication but yuh chastising de abhi pun tap syndrone. 

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
 

The real issue was when NICIL became 100 % Government owned.

For one to understand the sole purpose why NICIL was established ,one have to go back to Hoyte era and Economic Recovery Program. Perhaps a section of the people are comfortable with the transition from Private Company to Government owned.

Given that no changes have been made in the past 5 years, it is safe to say that the Coalition is comfortable with its current status. What happened with all their grand promises to correct issues?

The coalition government wasstymied to govern, from day one by the Opposition Party ,the party couldn't stand the loss of government.

Check the time line from 2015

Have you lost your mind.

It  was the PNC who created havoc during Jagdeo term with looting and mass protest, resulting in shutting down the country from  1999 to 2011. 

From 2011 to 2015  it was APNU- AFC that used it one seat majority to its advantage in parliament.

2018 NCM lost   - and your government is still squatting in office.

Do you reread your comments before hitting send.

I believe Django is in a state of denial or he lost his grip on reality.

When you all shed the "abhi pun tap" syndrome then Django will be understood. Perhaps one Political Party governance suits you all taste.

Mr.Dave, my mind is intact ,it's not lost which can seen in the rebuttals to the 3 man tag team.

Django
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skeldon_man posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
Django posted:
 

The real issue was when NICIL became 100 % Government owned.

For one to understand the sole purpose why NICIL was established ,one have to go back to Hoyte era and Economic Recovery Program. Perhaps a section of the people are comfortable with the transition from Private Company to Government owned.

Given that no changes have been made in the past 5 years, it is safe to say that the Coalition is comfortable with its current status. What happened with all their grand promises to correct issues?

The coalition government wasstymied to govern, from day one by the Opposition Party ,the party couldn't stand the loss of government.

Check the time line from 2015

Have you lost your mind.

It  was the PNC who created havoc during Jagdeo term with looting and mass protest, resulting in shutting down the country from  1999 to 2011. 

From 2011 to 2015  it was APNU- AFC that used it one seat majority to its advantage in parliament.

2018 NCM lost   - and your government is still squatting in office.

Do you reread your comments before hitting send.

I believe Django is in a state of denial or he lost his grip on reality.

I think so.. we saw the same S!it yesterday with the Rickford / Ambassador thread. He refused to accept the truth. 

FM
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ksazma posted:
Django posted:
ksazma posted:
 

Banna, have your cake, all by your self.

Salary increases which the Government and all Parliamentarians enjoying have noting to do with my statement ,regarding the government being stymied from governing.

Countries don't progress and developed ,when "abhi pun tap" syndrome ,grabbing for power by political party exists.

How did they get approval for the huge undeserved salary increases?

Ah notice yuh don't have any opinions on if Blackman fuh Blackman syndrome need any medication but yuh chastising de abhi pun tap syndrone. 

Where are Tina and Mona? We need them on this forum. They need to show them how to pump dem K...k.

FM
Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
 

I believe Django is in a state of denial or he lost his grip on reality.

When you all shed the "abhi pun tap" syndrome then Django will be understood. Perhaps one Political Party governance suits you all taste.

But yuh seem to agree wid de Blackman fuh Blackman syndrome because yuh nah touching dat wan. 

Yuh remind me of a co-worker I had in Guyana. When he was with me and our other Indian friends, he was all gaana. When some blacks are in our crowds, he talk distasteful about gaana.

I was the completely opposite. I am always gaana. I had no problems giving others rides in my car but never saw a need to change my gaana because a black was in my car. So one day this black girl told me to change my music. I just stopped the car and told her that she doesn't need to remain in the car is the music bothers her. She quickly shut up sheh puss and staan quiet for the rest of the ride. 

FM
Django posted:

I man gone ,got some work to do today .Will be off until the evening ,suh no cussing and fighting.

Walk safe and prepare for the Tundra weather coming. We had -35 yesterday and -25 today.

FM
Django posted:

I man gone ,got some work to do today .Will be off until the evening ,suh no cussing and fighting.

Yuh see how quick yuh rass run when yuh realize yuh can't anger yuh black masters? Yuh have no problem criticizing Indians but yuh know yuh can't dare touch black people. That is not independence my brother. That is cowering. Work on it. You don't owe anyone anything they don't deserve.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

I man gone ,got some work to do today .Will be off until the evening ,suh no cussing and fighting.

Walk safe and prepare for the Tundra weather coming. We had -35 yesterday and -25 today.

Bai, I watching Wendy Williams now and I must tell you that that her boobs are so huge, they will give you enough warmth from that -25. 

Wendy must have the biggest boobs ever. 

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ksazma posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

I man gone ,got some work to do today .Will be off until the evening ,suh no cussing and fighting.

Walk safe and prepare for the Tundra weather coming. We had -35 yesterday and -25 today.

Bai, I watching Wendy Williams now and I must tell you that that her boobs are so huge, they will give you enough warmth from that -25. 

Wendy must have the biggest boobs ever. 

Bai, you sure those are real? Are they all dense tissues inside there or some silicone supplements?

FM
skeldon_man posted:
ksazma posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Django posted:

I man gone ,got some work to do today .Will be off until the evening ,suh no cussing and fighting.

Walk safe and prepare for the Tundra weather coming. We had -35 yesterday and -25 today.

Bai, I watching Wendy Williams now and I must tell you that that her boobs are so huge, they will give you enough warmth from that -25. 

Wendy must have the biggest boobs ever. 

Bai, you sure those are real? Are they all dense tissues inside there or some silicone supplements?

Bai, aren't the blankets from China also made from synthetic materials? 

I don't know what she did today but on tv in that pink wrap dress, her boobs look even bigger than they do in the picture above. 

FM

I don't like Wendy Williams anyway. I am not really watching her. I was watching the news on that channel and because of my attention to GNI, I am still on that channel but not really listening. Wendy gross me out a bit.

FM
ksazma posted:

I don't like Wendy Williams anyway. I am not really watching her. I was watching the news on that channel and because of my attention to GNI, I am still on that channel but not really listening. Wendy gross me out a bit.

I never watched her.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
ksazma posted:

I don't like Wendy Williams anyway. I am not really watching her. I was watching the news on that channel and because of my attention to GNI, I am still on that channel but not really listening. Wendy gross me out a bit.

I never watched her.

Me neither. I was only on the local Fox channel because I wanted to see local coverage of the MSD massacre from two years ago and the CBS, NBC & ABC channels had moved to national coverages.

FM
Sean posted:

Go test dem Na ?

No need to. I did all the testing already.
When I worked at the hospital, I was privileged to read and see some mammograms during record maintenance. The big boobs don't excite me. Anything more than a mouthful is a waste. Wah you seh deh Brahmin bai? Is that a sin for you discuss?

FM
Django posted:

The Opposition leader can bawl how much he wants ,their models were graft schemes.

Let him prove the illegality.

Marriott is saying they have not signed any franchise to build a second hotel in Guyana. Is that true?

Bibi Haniffa
skeldon_man posted:

Is this Aboud dude a fraud? Looks like birds of a feather are flocking together again in Guyana.

Amna and BK went on a lil mission recently to Trinidad.  Don’t know if it’s connected to this deal.

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
skeldon_man posted:

Is this Aboud dude a fraud? Looks like birds of a feather are flocking together again in Guyana.

Amna and BK went on a lil mission recently to Trinidad.  Don’t know if it’s connected to this deal.

Oh that gorgeous Amna. Would like to love her like how hog love shit. Hope Marriot sues the bastards if they never gave permission.

FM
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