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High Court decision: Dual citizens would have to vacate House seats – lawyers

 

Attorney-at-Law Neil Boston.

In the wake of Thursday’s High Court ruling that parliamentarians with dual citizenship is unconstitutional, lawyers said those legislators would have to be replaced before the National Assembly possibly meets again to extend the deadline by which general elections are due.

Chief Justice Roxane George-Wiltshire, in her decision, observed that evidently then government parliamentarian, Charrandas Persaud was a dual citizen who had sworn allegiance to a foreign power. She said Persaud had travelled on his Canadian passport and had stated on the immigration form that he is Guyanese-Canadian. She added that there was no evidence that he had renounced his Guyanese citizenship.

Attorney-at-Law Anil Nandlall, who is representing Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo, said the High Court decision would have implications for the several other parliamentarians who hold dual citizenship. “Let us assume that we have to extend the life of Parliament for whatever reason because that is an eventuality provided for by the constitution. Because of this ruling, it means that those persons who are currently in that peculiar circumstance should not be sitting in the Parliament and that has nothing to do with elections,” he said.

As far as candidates for future general elections are concerned, Nandlall said Representatives of the Lists would have to ensure that dual citizens are not nominated. “In relation to elections, leaders of the lists now will have to ensure that members – persons who are placed on those lists – comply with the constitutional provision as it relates to dual citizenship,” said Nandlall, a former Attorney General and Minister of Legal Affairs.

Attorney-at-Law, Anil Nandlall

On the governing coalition’s side the dual citizen parliamentarians are Carl Greenidge (British), Rupert Roopnaraine (British), Joseph Harmon (American), while on the opposition benches are Gail Teixeira (Canadian) and Adrian Annamayah (American).

Attorney-at-Law Sanjeev Datadin suggested that the High Court ruling would apply to current parliamentarians, who are dual citizens, instead of Charrandas Persaud who is no longer a parliamentarian. “I guess that what it will apply to is those who are in parliament now and that whoever are dual citizens… I am not sure that those who are dual citizens now can come back to Parliament when that extension vote would be taken because they wouldn’t be validly be there any longer,” Datadin said.

Senior Counsel Neil Boston said it appeared that the Chief Justice’s decisions would adversely impact the parliamentarians who are dual citizens. “It would appear as though they may have to vacate their seat. We can’t speak for them and what they may do because, as you know, politicians speak with forked tongues… Legally, they should not be there but the thing is you can have a foreign passport but the section says ‘by your conduct’ you were acknowledging allegiance and obedience to a foreign power,” Boston said.

The Chief Justice ruled that the no-confidence motion was validly passed on December  21, 2018; that an absolute majority of the 65 seats in the National Assembly is 33, and although Persaud should have informed the House Speaker that he had decided to break ranks with the list of candidates from which he had been selected, he had not ceased being a parliamentarian.

Nandlall welcomed the Chief Justice’s decision. “They have settled matters of vital national importance and hopefully now the way has been cleared for the constitutional provisions to be complied with and those provisions are that elections must be held within the timeframe stipulated by the constitution,” Nandlall added.

Lawyers for private citizen Compton Reid, and the Attorney General Basil Williams are expected to file appeals after they receive written copies of the judgements next week Wednesday.

The Chief Justice also ruled that the President and Cabinet ought to have resigned immediately after the passage of the no-confidence motion, and the government should remain in office until elections are held and a new President is sworn in.

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The likes of Mars, Ronan and the Salipenta and others are as quite as church mouse after the Judge’s ruling.

Look at anti Ronan going on another shake batti rant now !

FM
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yuji22 posted:

The likes of Mars, Ronan and the Salipenta and others are as quite as church mouse after the Judge’s ruling.

Look at anti Ronan going on another shake batti rant now !

Stupidee Bill, I long ago stated that the Coalition would not win the 34 seat majority argument. 

Mars
yuji22 posted:

You rass was so hard head about the government resisting ! That is what I was referring to. The judge made that very clear, jacksss !

There’s nothing wrong with taking your case to a court Nincompoop. I defended their right to go to court. The PPP did the same thing after the licks they got in 2015.

Even in America, it is not uncommon for political parties to challenge a vote in court. Recall Al Gore and the recent midterm elections in Florida ending up in the courts. That’s how a democracy works fool.

Mars
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yuji22 posted:

The likes of Mars, Ronan and the Salipenta and others are as quite as church mouse after the Judge’s ruling.

Look at anti Ronan going on another shake batti rant now !

A lying, watery shitabatty slut looking to mek a name fuh heself by invoking the names of other posters. Let me oblige.

Find ONE post where Mars, Carib, Ronan or Gwana man seh dat 32 greater than 33 or whatever shit yuh wailing about. None of us said that. You are a lying sack of shit to imply that any of us are surprised by the judge's ruling. What was most discussed was the issue of dual citizen MP's.

What you should note is that a BLACK judge ruled in favor of the PPP. A BLACK speaker of the house said the NCV carried and refused to reverse his decision. Black people of principle, not party. Professional black people, not prejudiced black people. 

Every day racist pricks like you carry on hay about black man dis and black man dat. Black people are pissed on daily by you and your other scum sucking toadies like Nehru, Suckaton man, KP, "Dave", the goadie man and the other clowns.

Bigots like you should take note of Scotland and George-Wiltshire instead of waiting and wailing and actually BEGGING fuh black man clap 2 lash pon yuh on the street. This forum is now a venue for PPP ignorance, bigotry and stupidity led by idiots and nincompoops like you.

FM

Oh ma lawaaaawd is wuh giin on here? Yall confusin me with the many names...

Stupidy Bill..Scumsuckin Toady..Idiot an Nincompoop..Acerbic Asswipe..Useless Shitbag with the intellect of a toddler...all this fir one frilly panty wearin banna...heheheeee

cain
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My understanding of Chief Justice Roxane George-Wiltshire's decision is that confirmation of citizenship for adherence to the Guyana Constitution applies to NEW members of the legislature.

FM

Yesterday's ruling by Judge George clarified some of the arguments that have arisen since the NCV in December. Now that those rulings have been recorded, there are now some new challenges regarding who is seated in the House going forward for the current Parliament and future ones. While all parties should be able to find replacements for their dual citizenship MPs, the question is whether those dual citizenship MPs will be willing to relinquish their seats. Lots of drama is about to begin. Somehow, I think the Coalition government is already regretting the arguments (ants nests) they dug up in their effort to subvert the NCV.

FM
yuji22 posted:

Stop dancing please !

you are a stupid toddler...nayna, nayna nayna nayna....you did this,  you did that, boo hoo hooo,....and what the hell did you do...nothing? 

Day in day out the same sh.t, and not one stated perspective, or argued position, ..and you have none.  What a dunce! 

I hope you praise the good woman for her due intelligence and acting contrary to your low life beliefs that black people are without honor and integrity. The reality is  you are always reflecting you own character with these negative view points of others. 

FM
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Iguana posted:
yuji22 posted:

The likes of Mars, Ronan and the Salipenta and others are as quite as church mouse after the Judge’s ruling.

Look at anti Ronan going on another shake batti rant now !

A lying, watery shitabatty slut looking to mek a name fuh heself by invoking the names of other posters. Let me oblige.

Find ONE post where Mars, Carib, Ronan or Gwana man seh dat 32 greater than 33 or whatever shit yuh wailing about. None of us said that. You are a lying sack of shit to imply that any of us are surprised by the judge's ruling. What was most discussed was the issue of dual citizen MP's.

What you should note is that a BLACK judge ruled in favor of the PPP. A BLACK speaker of the house said the NCV carried and refused to reverse his decision. Black people of principle, not party. Professional black people, not prejudiced black people. 

Every day racist pricks like you carry on hay about black man dis and black man dat. Black people are pissed on daily by you and your other scum sucking toadies like Nehru, Suckaton man, KP, "Dave", the goadie man and the other clowns.

Bigots like you should take note of Scotland and George-Wiltshire instead of waiting and wailing and actually BEGGING fuh black man clap 2 lash pon yuh on the street. This forum is now a venue for PPP ignorance, bigotry and stupidity led by idiots and nincompoops like you.

Yuh din expect that ruling?

S
yuji22 posted:

The likes of Mars, Ronan and the Salipenta and others are as quite as church mouse after the Judge’s ruling.

Look at anti Ronan going on another shake batti rant now !

What we do know is that the current judges are people of integrity so when Jagdeo tries to replace them when they don't bend to his will you all cannot scream that "dem is PNC".

FM
Iguana posted:
yuji22 posted:

The likes of Mars, Ronan and the Salipenta and others are as quite as church mouse after the Judge’s ruling.

Look at anti Ronan going on another shake batti rant now !

A lying, watery shitabatty slut looking to mek a name fuh heself by invoking the names of other posters. Let me oblige.

Find ONE post where Mars, Carib, Ronan or Gwana man seh dat 32 greater than 33 or whatever shit yuh wailing about. None of us said that. You are a lying sack of shit to imply that any of us are surprised by the judge's ruling. What was most discussed was the issue of dual citizen MP's.

What you should note is that a BLACK judge ruled in favor of the PPP. A BLACK speaker of the house said the NCV carried and refused to reverse his decision. Black people of principle, not party. Professional black people, not prejudiced black people. 

Every day racist pricks like you carry on hay about black man dis and black man dat. Black people are pissed on daily by you and your other scum sucking toadies like Nehru, Suckaton man, KP, "Dave", the goadie man and the other clowns.

Bigots like you should take note of Scotland and George-Wiltshire instead of waiting and wailing and actually BEGGING fuh black man clap 2 lash pon yuh on the street. This forum is now a venue for PPP ignorance, bigotry and stupidity led by idiots and nincompoops like you.

Black people aren't clannish as are many/most Indians.    So when they against the PPP they do so on the basis of principle and not race.

I cannot speak for George-Wilshire, but I happen to know that Scotland is a man with PNC sympathies, but he made his decision based on the law.

I will suggest to APNU that they don't waste time with going to the CCJ because they will render the same decision.  These are people who interpret the law as it is, not as they wish it to be.

So the PPP needs to exit from its party the  Indo Nazis, including Jagdeo, if they wish to get 30% of the black vote.

Sorry Gilbakka your insulting notion that we can be wooed with pictures and kisses is quite silly.  We don't like the PPP because we don't like them and if the PPP wishes our support they must change their ways.  Appointing a stupid crook isn't the way to go.    Yes this is the man who told blacks that if they don't vote PPP they will lose their house lots.

The Indo Nazis here need to know that a certain generation of Afro Guyanese operate on a principle of integrity, not something that those connected to the PPP are familiar with. Because if they were they would be loudly vocal against Jagdeo with his selection of the least presidential candidate that the PPP could chose.

FM
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caribny posted:
Iguana posted:
yuji22 posted:

The likes of Mars, Ronan and the Salipenta and others are as quite as church mouse after the Judge’s ruling.

Look at anti Ronan going on another shake batti rant now !

A lying, watery shitabatty slut looking to mek a name fuh heself by invoking the names of other posters. Let me oblige.

Find ONE post where Mars, Carib, Ronan or Gwana man seh dat 32 greater than 33 or whatever shit yuh wailing about. None of us said that. You are a lying sack of shit to imply that any of us are surprised by the judge's ruling. What was most discussed was the issue of dual citizen MP's.

What you should note is that a BLACK judge ruled in favor of the PPP. A BLACK speaker of the house said the NCV carried and refused to reverse his decision. Black people of principle, not party. Professional black people, not prejudiced black people. 

Every day racist pricks like you carry on hay about black man dis and black man dat. Black people are pissed on daily by you and your other scum sucking toadies like Nehru, Suckaton man, KP, "Dave", the goadie man and the other clowns.

Bigots like you should take note of Scotland and George-Wiltshire instead of waiting and wailing and actually BEGGING fuh black man clap 2 lash pon yuh on the street. This forum is now a venue for PPP ignorance, bigotry and stupidity led by idiots and nincompoops like you.

Black people aren't clannish as are many/most Indians.    So when they against the PPP they do so on the basis of principle and not race.

So the PPP needs to exit from its party the  Indo Nazis, including Jagdeo, if they wish to get 30% of the black vote.

Sorry Gilbakka your insulting notion that we can be wooed with pictures and kisses is quite silly.  We don't like the PPP because we don't like them and if the PPP wishes our support they must change their ways.  Appointing a stupid crook isn't the way to go.    Yes this is the man who told blacks that if they don't vote PPP they will lose their house lots.

I suppose its Irfan you're talking about regarding the house lot thing. Please post the source. I wish to read it.

Sheik101
caribny posted:
Iguana posted:

 

A lying, watery shitabatty slut looking to mek a name fuh heself by invoking the names of other posters. Let me oblige.

Find ONE post where Mars, Carib, Ronan or Gwana man seh dat 32 greater than 33 or whatever shit yuh wailing about. None of us said that. You are a lying sack of shit to imply that any of us are surprised by the judge's ruling. What was most discussed was the issue of dual citizen MP's.

What you should note is that a BLACK judge ruled in favor of the PPP. A BLACK speaker of the house said the NCV carried and refused to reverse his decision. Black people of principle, not party. Professional black people, not prejudiced black people. 

Every day racist pricks like you carry on hay about black man dis and black man dat. Black people are pissed on daily by you and your other scum sucking toadies like Nehru, Suckaton man, KP, "Dave", the goadie man and the other clowns.

Bigots like you should take note of Scotland and George-Wiltshire instead of waiting and wailing and actually BEGGING fuh black man clap 2 lash pon yuh on the street. This forum is now a venue for PPP ignorance, bigotry and stupidity led by idiots and nincompoops like you.

Black people aren't clannish as are many/most Indians.    So when they against the PPP they do so on the basis of principle and not race.

I cannot speak for George-Wilshire, but I happen to know that Scotland is a man with PNC sympathies, but he made his decision based on the law.

I will suggest to APNU that they don't waste time with going to the CCJ because they will render the same decision.  These are people who interpret the law as it is, not as they wish it to be.

So the PPP needs to exit from its party the  Indo Nazis, including Jagdeo, if they wish to get 30% of the black vote.

Sorry Gilbakka your insulting notion that we can be wooed with pictures and kisses is quite silly.  We don't like the PPP because we don't like them and if the PPP wishes our support they must change their ways.  Appointing a stupid crook isn't the way to go.    Yes this is the man who told blacks that if they don't vote PPP they will lose their house lots.

The Indo Nazis here need to know that a certain generation of Afro Guyanese operate on a principle of integrity, not something that those connected to the PPP are familiar with. Because if they were they would be loudly vocal against Jagdeo with his selection of the least presidential candidate that the PPP could chose.

The Indians in the diaspora diverge from the locals.  The locals are more behind BJ/PPP regardless of Irfaan.  Many feel it’s the power of BJ we are seeing play out.  Many police officers are upset at their bonus being taken away.  I believe the Coalition is in for a resounding defeat.

Jagdeo/PPP might retroactively pay some bonuses!

You still pon yuh clannish shyte. Change yuh tune banna.  The world passing your by!

Baseman
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Baseman posted:

The Indians in the diaspora diverge from the locals.  The locals are more behind BJ/PPP regardless of Irfaan.  Many feel it’s the power of BJ we are seeing play out.  Many police officers are upset at their bonus being taken away.  I believe the Coalition is in for a resounding defeat.

Jagdeo/PPP might retroactively pay some bonuses!

You still pon yuh clannish shyte. Change yuh tune banna.  The world passing your by!

The diaspora may be with the PPP but the reality is the PPP is unfit for office with an absolute majority. The small parties need to come together to try to secure the middle passage. The PPP in a plurality may be trusted since they have to watch their back. It is hard for the PNC though not unlikely to win the plurality. 

FM
D2 posted:
Baseman posted:

The Indians in the diaspora diverge from the locals.  The locals are more behind BJ/PPP regardless of Irfaan.  Many feel it’s the power of BJ we are seeing play out.  Many police officers are upset at their bonus being taken away.  I believe the Coalition is in for a resounding defeat.

Jagdeo/PPP might retroactively pay some bonuses!

You still pon yuh clannish shyte. Change yuh tune banna.  The world passing your by!

The diaspora may be with the PPP but the reality is the PPP is unfit for office with an absolute majority. The small parties need to come together to try to secure the middle passage. The PPP in a plurality may be trusted since they have to watch their back. It is hard for the PNC though not unlikely to win the plurality. 

The PPP and BJ has widespread support in Guyana. No one puts much faith in any third party.

Baseman
Baseman posted:
D2 posted:
Baseman posted:

The Indians in the diaspora diverge from the locals.  The locals are more behind BJ/PPP regardless of Irfaan.  Many feel it’s the power of BJ we are seeing play out.  Many police officers are upset at their bonus being taken away.  I believe the Coalition is in for a resounding defeat.

Jagdeo/PPP might retroactively pay some bonuses!

You still pon yuh clannish shyte. Change yuh tune banna.  The world passing your by!

The diaspora may be with the PPP but the reality is the PPP is unfit for office with an absolute majority. The small parties need to come together to try to secure the middle passage. The PPP in a plurality may be trusted since they have to watch their back. It is hard for the PNC though not unlikely to win the plurality. 

The PPP and BJ has widespread support in Guyana. No one puts much faith in any third party.

What is going to be the fate of the FEDUP party?

FM
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Baseman posted:
D2 posted:
Baseman posted:

The Indians in the diaspora diverge from the locals.  The locals are more behind BJ/PPP regardless of Irfaan.  Many feel it’s the power of BJ we are seeing play out.  Many police officers are upset at their bonus being taken away.  I believe the Coalition is in for a resounding defeat.

Jagdeo/PPP might retroactively pay some bonuses!

You still pon yuh clannish shyte. Change yuh tune banna.  The world passing your by!

The diaspora may be with the PPP but the reality is the PPP is unfit for office with an absolute majority. The small parties need to come together to try to secure the middle passage. The PPP in a plurality may be trusted since they have to watch their back. It is hard for the PNC though not unlikely to win the plurality. 

The PPP and BJ has widespread support in Guyana. No one puts much faith in any third party.

They are plainly stupid if they are ever to control he kleptocratic habits of these two parties. Neither are fit for unrestrained access in office. One is clearly a coolie party and the other a black party and nowhere has each ever sought to change this status quo.  Shuman has the best chance but he has to be able to run. We only need one seat that is 7000 votes.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Baseman posted:
D2 posted:
Baseman posted:

The Indians in the diaspora diverge from the locals.  The locals are more behind BJ/PPP regardless of Irfaan.  Many feel it’s the power of BJ we are seeing play out.  Many police officers are upset at their bonus being taken away.  I believe the Coalition is in for a resounding defeat.

Jagdeo/PPP might retroactively pay some bonuses!

You still pon yuh clannish shyte. Change yuh tune banna.  The world passing your by!

The diaspora may be with the PPP but the reality is the PPP is unfit for office with an absolute majority. The small parties need to come together to try to secure the middle passage. The PPP in a plurality may be trusted since they have to watch their back. It is hard for the PNC though not unlikely to win the plurality. 

The PPP and BJ has widespread support in Guyana. No one puts much faith in any third party.

What is going to be the fate of the FEDUP party?

I would prevail upon them to join forces with others and make sure they secure a few seats. Their intent makes sense as the other two major party will take us down the same road as they are accustomed to going, racist, partisan, and friends and family  crony capitalism. 

FM
D2 posted:
Baseman posted:
D2 posted:

 

The diaspora may be with the PPP but the reality is the PPP is unfit for office with an absolute majority. The small parties need to come together to try to secure the middle passage. The PPP in a plurality may be trusted since they have to watch their back. It is hard for the PNC though not unlikely to win the plurality. 

The PPP and BJ has widespread support in Guyana. No one puts much faith in any third party.

They are plainly stupid if they are ever to control he kleptocratic habits of these two parties. Neither are fit for unrestrained access in office. One is clearly a coolie party and the other a black party and nowhere has each ever sought to change this status quo.  Shuman has the best chance but he has to be able to run. We only need one seat that is 7000 votes.

That’s your view.  Many here and around the world ask how we elected Trump.  But we did and will do again in 2020!

They live the Guyana reality!

Baseman
D2 posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Baseman posted:
D2 posted:
Baseman posted:

The Indians in the diaspora diverge from the locals.  The locals are more behind BJ/PPP regardless of Irfaan.  Many feel it’s the power of BJ we are seeing play out.  Many police officers are upset at their bonus being taken away.  I believe the Coalition is in for a resounding defeat.

Jagdeo/PPP might retroactively pay some bonuses!

You still pon yuh clannish shyte. Change yuh tune banna.  The world passing your by!

The diaspora may be with the PPP but the reality is the PPP is unfit for office with an absolute majority. The small parties need to come together to try to secure the middle passage. The PPP in a plurality may be trusted since they have to watch their back. It is hard for the PNC though not unlikely to win the plurality. 

The PPP and BJ has widespread support in Guyana. No one puts much faith in any third party.

What is going to be the fate of the FEDUP party?

I would prevail upon them to join forces with others and make sure they secure a few seats. Their intent makes sense as the other two major party will take us down the same road as they are accustomed to going, racist, partisan, and friends and family  crony capitalism. 

None getting much. My read, PPP will have a decisive victory!  I wish the get a one seat but might be bigger!

Baseman

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