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Has President Ramotar no shame, dignity and/or self-respect?

November 21, 2014 | By | Filed Under Features / Columnists, Freddie Kissoon 
 

A person that holds the highest office in the land is expected to display behaviour of the most sacred kind in the system of values that holds civilization intact. Most leaders have not done so. Some have, some try to. But they all try to avoid undignified, crass, immoral, indecent, profane, feral behaviour.
Should a nation’s leader descend to semi-civilized or vulgar or shameless or disrespectful conduct, he/she certainly would jeopardize the life of their office. At all times a Prime Minister or a President must be seen saying and doing things that convey to the world that he/she has commonsense, rationality, logic and intellectual knowledge. That person may not have such qualities, but it must be done in ways that people will believe that they do.
President Ramotar’s letter yesterday to the Opposition Leader for a post-prorogation dialogue fails to achieve this conveyance. It is an intellectually barren, political silly and personally insulting letter (to Mr. Granger).
After the dictatorial suspension of Parliament by Mr. Ramotar, a repugnant manipulation of the Constitution never seen before in any CARICOM territory, Mr. Ramotar writes the Opposition Leader in a manner that is extremely condescending. If the PPP is going to achieve any significant number of votes in the next election, it had better dump Mr. Ramotar peremptorily. He is so politically flawed that C.N. Sharma may do better than him at the polls.
Mr. Ramotar’s letter contains the following unbelievable words in reference to the no-confidence motion; “The parliamentary opposition you led at the sitting planned for November 10, 2014 would have ended the life of the 10th Parliament, leaving unaddressed many important issues of the day.”
Nowhere in Mr. Ramotar’s foolish missive did he give recognition to the fact that the Guyana Constitution allows Parliament to dissolve itself to have another general election. That is the legal, constitutional and political right of Parliament.
What that section of Mr. Ramotar’s missive openly tells you is that he is saying, “I as President have rights, you as Parliament do not, and I determine what becomes of Parliament.
Mr. Ramotar continues; “My decision to prorogue Parliament on that day has delayed such an eventuality, thereby providing an opportunity to still have the tenth Parliament discuss and conclude those issues.”
This is amazingly stupid stuff from the highest office in the land. Which country does President Ramotar live in? The no-confidence vote was announced in June. Mr. Ramotar was written to by the AFC tying the no-confidence motion to a series of requests, a resolution of which could have avoided the no-confidence process; Mr. Ramotar rejected that pathway.
Mr. Ramotar then prorogues Parliament, writes the Opposition Leader and tells him I have matters that are still to be resolved therefore let’s talk to resume Parliament and have my agenda pass. Why didn’t Ramotar seek dialogue before the no-confidence plan was about to be tabled?
Alright, let’s say the combined opposition was going for new elections anyway, what is there to change its mind now that Parliament is prorogued?
Is President Ramotar imbecilic enough to think that the PNC is so stupid, sycophantic and self-destructive that it is going to sit down with Ramotar and discuss Ramotar’s “unaddressed issues” with a promise to resolve them if the President resuscitates Parliament? Any opposition party that behaves so slavish is useless and should be shouted down and be disbanded by its membership.
Ramotar has put the PNC is a position where if it listens and responds to him, its membership and supporters would denounce it. The commonsensical thing for Mr. Ramotar to do was to write both AFC and APNU to inform them that Parliament would be resumed with the request by the presidency that the Government’s “unaddressed issues” be given priority for discussion. That was all that was required.
Even this elementary strategy to save face, Mr. Ramotar cannot grasp.
So what does Mr. Ramotar do instead? He puts conditions on the resumption of Parliament and he is shameless in saying so. He stated in his correspondence; “…I propose a high-level engagement…to agree on a post-prorogation Parliamentary agenda.” Mr. Ramotar is barefacedly saying, talk to me first before I open Parliament again.
In the first part of his letter he gave his reason for prorogation – Government business that was left unattended. In the second part of his missive, he wants a post-prorogation agenda. But the agenda has to be governmental business because the lack of discussion on such was the reason he de-mobilized Parliament in the first place. The die is cast. The opposition has no way out but elections.
But Ramotar is fighting for his full term. He cannot get it now. Too late.

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A person that holds the highest office in the land is expected to display behaviour of the most sacred kind in the system of values that holds civilization intact. Most leaders have not done so. Some have, some try to. But they all try to avoid undignified, crass, immoral, indecent, profane, feral behaviour.

 

Has President Ramotar no shame, dignity and/or self-respect?, November 21, 2014 | By | Filed Under Features / Columnists, Freddie Kissoon

President Donald Ramotar is indeed one of the leaders who adhere to the constitution, laws and common sense in the administration of a country.

FM

I doan know when the Jagans ever surrounded themselves with intelligent people. There are some PPPites question what was the Jagans thinking when they name Ramotar to be General Secretary and Jagdeo to be President.

S
Originally Posted by seignet:

I doan know when the Jagans ever surrounded themselves with intelligent people. There are some PPPites question what was the Jagans thinking when they name Ramotar to be General Secretary and Jagdeo to be President.

I think that the reason that the Jagans might have had is that they did not want bright and brilliant people around them, people with no shame, dignity and/or self-respect? would have fitted very well in their surrounding, this way no one to challenge them and so that is the reason why we have Ramotar, Rohee,and plug a batty and all the other that make up the PPP/C Party of the low breed.  

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by seignet:

I doan know when the Jagans ever surrounded themselves with intelligent people. There are some PPPites question what was the Jagans thinking when they name Ramotar to be General Secretary and Jagdeo to be President.

I think that the reason that the Jagans might have had is that they did not want bright and brilliant people around them, people with no shame, dignity and/or self-respect? would have fitted very well in their surrounding, this way no one to challenge them and so that is the reason why we have Ramotar, Rohee,and plug a batty and all the other that make up the PPP/C Party of the low breed.  

a bunch of commie they have no god 

FM
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by seignet:

I doan know when the Jagans ever surrounded themselves with intelligent people. There are some PPPites question what was the Jagans thinking when they name Ramotar to be General Secretary and Jagdeo to be President.

I think that the reason that the Jagans might have had is that they did not want bright and brilliant people around them, people with no shame, dignity and/or self-respect? would have fitted very well in their surrounding, this way no one to challenge them and so that is the reason why we have Ramotar, Rohee,and plug a batty and all the other that make up the PPP/C Party of the low breed.  

That is why the PPP did not want you then and now? You said Ramotar invited you to his ofiice and his secretary serenaded you. What song did she sing and what instrument did she play? I think this supposedly "serenade" was a physical "right arm between the two legs, under the ass, the left hand on the shirt collar, and a big lift and throw outside his office door. 

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by seignet:

I doan know when the Jagans ever surrounded themselves with intelligent people. There are some PPPites question what was the Jagans thinking when they name Ramotar to be General Secretary and Jagdeo to be President.

I think that the reason that the Jagans might have had is that they did not want bright and brilliant people around them, people with no shame, dignity and/or self-respect? would have fitted very well in their surrounding, this way no one to challenge them and so that is the reason why we have Ramotar, Rohee,and plug a batty and all the other that make up the PPP/C Party of the low breed.  

That is why the PPP did not want you then and now? You said Ramotar invited you to his ofiice and his secretary serenaded you. What song did she sing and what instrument did she play? I think this supposedly "serenade" was a physical "right arm between the two legs, under the ass, the left hand on the shirt collar, and a big lift and throw outside his office door. 

   

 

 

I know what I know

By - Paul Simon

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by seignet:

I doan know when the Jagans ever surrounded themselves with intelligent people. There are some PPPites question what was the Jagans thinking when they name Ramotar to be General Secretary and Jagdeo to be President.

I think that the reason that the Jagans might have had is that they did not want bright and brilliant people around them, people with no shame, dignity and/or self-respect? would have fitted very well in their surrounding, this way no one to challenge them and so that is the reason why we have Ramotar, Rohee,and plug a batty and all the other that make up the PPP/C Party of the low breed.  

That is why the PPP did not want you then and now? You said Ramotar invited you to his ofiice and his secretary serenaded you. What song did she sing and what instrument did she play? I think this supposedly "serenade" was a physical "right arm between the two legs, under the ass, the left hand on the shirt collar, and a big lift and throw outside his office door. 

HAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHE

Nehru
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by seignet:

I doan know when the Jagans ever surrounded themselves with intelligent people. There are some PPPites question what was the Jagans thinking when they name Ramotar to be General Secretary and Jagdeo to be President.

I think that the reason that the Jagans might have had is that they did not want bright and brilliant people around them, people with no shame, dignity and/or self-respect? would have fitted very well in their surrounding, this way no one to challenge them and so that is the reason why we have Ramotar, Rohee,and plug a batty and all the other that make up the PPP/C Party of the low breed.  

That is why the PPP did not want you then and now? You said Ramotar invited you to his ofiice and his secretary serenaded you. What song did she sing and what instrument did she play? I think this supposedly "serenade" was a physical "right arm between the two legs, under the ass, the left hand on the shirt collar, and a big lift and throw outside his office door. 

Don't be a skonthole, whenever you do not have anything to say and you feel like to open your keerah, then you are free to come suck on my dic k if that will shut you up. Mai teri pudi paan sitna, ja chod maar.

 

 

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by seignet:

I doan know when the Jagans ever surrounded themselves with intelligent people. There are some PPPites question what was the Jagans thinking when they name Ramotar to be General Secretary and Jagdeo to be President.

I think that the reason that the Jagans might have had is that they did not want bright and brilliant people around them, people with no shame, dignity and/or self-respect? would have fitted very well in their surrounding, this way no one to challenge them and so that is the reason why we have Ramotar, Rohee,and plug a batty and all the other that make up the PPP/C Party of the low breed.  

That is why the PPP did not want you then and now? You said Ramotar invited you to his ofiice and his secretary serenaded you. What song did she sing and what instrument did she play? I think this supposedly "serenade" was a physical "right arm between the two legs, under the ass, the left hand on the shirt collar, and a big lift and throw outside his office door. 

   

 

 

I know what I know

By - Paul Simon

 

Tu kuti ka bacha, did you change your Pampers you know it stinks. It pays you better to coin your own words.......why be a copy cat like a pu ssy, You appears more like to be a fool.

FM

          Indiana Jones
 
Haraamjada, what happened cat bite out your tongue, or you are waiting to get partner to give you a helping hand in your old age, a fool like you should make your peace with your God. Go change that Pampers, it stinks.
FM
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by seignet:

I doan know when the Jagans ever surrounded themselves with intelligent people. There are some PPPites question what was the Jagans thinking when they name Ramotar to be General Secretary and Jagdeo to be President.

I think that the reason that the Jagans might have had is that they did not want bright and brilliant people around them, people with no shame, dignity and/or self-respect? would have fitted very well in their surrounding, this way no one to challenge them and so that is the reason why we have Ramotar, Rohee,and plug a batty and all the other that make up the PPP/C Party of the low breed.  

That is why the PPP did not want you then and now? You said Ramotar invited you to his ofiice and his secretary serenaded you. What song did she sing and what instrument did she play? I think this supposedly "serenade" was a physical "right arm between the two legs, under the ass, the left hand on the shirt collar, and a big lift and throw outside his office door. 

Don't be a skonthole, whenever you do not have anything to say and you feel like to open your keerah, then you are free to come suck on my dic k if that will shut you up. Mai teri pudi paan sitna, ja chod maar.

 

 

 

 

You certainly show your very limited intellect here. Your vulgarity and hindi writings here remind me of the old Indians(from India) who when confused and overpowered by reasoning, they resort to vulgarity and incomprehensible ramblings. You are certainly there.

I would like to see Ramotar's shoe print on your baxside. Show us the pants.

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by seignet:

I doan know when the Jagans ever surrounded themselves with intelligent people. There are some PPPites question what was the Jagans thinking when they name Ramotar to be General Secretary and Jagdeo to be President.

I think that the reason that the Jagans might have had is that they did not want bright and brilliant people around them, people with no shame, dignity and/or self-respect? would have fitted very well in their surrounding, this way no one to challenge them and so that is the reason why we have Ramotar, Rohee,and plug a batty and all the other that make up the PPP/C Party of the low breed.  

That is why the PPP did not want you then and now? You said Ramotar invited you to his ofiice and his secretary serenaded you. What song did she sing and what instrument did she play? I think this supposedly "serenade" was a physical "right arm between the two legs, under the ass, the left hand on the shirt collar, and a big lift and throw outside his office door. 

Don't be a skonthole, whenever you do not have anything to say and you feel like to open your keerah, then you are free to come suck on my dic k if that will shut you up. Mai teri pudi paan sitna, ja chod maar.

You certainly show your very limited intellect here. Your vulgarity and hindi writings here remind me of the old Indians(from India) who when confused and overpowered by reasoning, they resort to vulgarity and incomprehensible ramblings. You are certainly there.

 

I would like to see Ramotar's shoe print on your baxside. Show us the pants.

 

   

The shoe print is permanently etched on his rear.

 

clapEvillol

FM
Originally Posted by asj:

          Indiana Jones
 
Haraamjada, what happened cat bite out your tongue, or you are waiting to get partner to give you a helping hand in your old age, a fool like you should make your peace with your God. Go change that Pampers, it stinks.

The Pampers still stinks.

FM
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by asj:

          Indiana Jones
 
Haraamjada, what happened cat bite out your tongue, or you are waiting to get partner to give you a helping hand in your old age, a fool like you should make your peace with your God. Go change that Pampers, it stinks.

The Pampers still stinks.

Go dig a hole and hide. 

FM
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by asj:

          Indiana Jones
 
Haraamjada, what happened cat bite out your tongue, or you are waiting to get partner to give you a helping hand in your old age, a fool like you should make your peace with your God. Go change that Pampers, it stinks.

The Pampers still stinks.

ASJ's glaring display of the best he can offer in a discussion.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by asj:

          Indiana Jones
 
Haraamjada, what happened cat bite out your tongue, or you are waiting to get partner to give you a helping hand in your old age, a fool like you should make your peace with your God. Go change that Pampers, it stinks.

The Pampers still stinks.

ASJ's glaring display of the best he can offer in a discussion.

You did not come here for any discussions, but to hurl insults, and I do have the time tonight to waste.

FM
Originally Posted by skeldon_man:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by asj:

          Indiana Jones
 
Haraamjada, what happened cat bite out your tongue, or you are waiting to get partner to give you a helping hand in your old age, a fool like you should make your peace with your God. Go change that Pampers, it stinks.

The Pampers still stinks.

Go dig a hole and hide. 

There are several people in this world that I find obnoxious and you are all of them.

 

FM
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by asj:

          Indiana Jones
 
Haraamjada, what happened cat bite out your tongue, or you are waiting to get partner to give you a helping hand in your old age, a fool like you should make your peace with your God. Go change that Pampers, it stinks.

The Pampers still stinks.

ASJ's glaring display of the best he can offer in a discussion.

You did not come here for any discussions, but to hurl insults, and I do have the time tonight to waste.

I do have the time tonight to waste ... nothing new since that is all you do on GNI.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
 

President Donald Ramotar is indeed one of the leaders who adhere to the constitution, laws and common sense in the administration of a country.

You are aware that the "constitution" is only there because of massive rigging by the Burnham regime.  So this puts Ramotar in line with Burnham.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
President Donald Ramotar is indeed one of the leaders who adhere to the constitution, laws and common sense in the administration of a country.

You are aware that the "constitution" is only there because of massive rigging by the Burnham regime.  So this puts Ramotar in line with Burnham.

Contrary to your views, it does not put President Donald Ramotar in line with former president Linden Forbes Sampson Burnham.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
President Donald Ramotar is indeed one of the leaders who adhere to the constitution, laws and common sense in the administration of a country.

You are aware that the "constitution" is only there because of massive rigging by the Burnham regime.  So this puts Ramotar in line with Burnham.

Contrary to your views, it does not put President Donald Ramotar in line with former president Linden Forbes Sampson Burnham.

No other constitution exist besides Burnham's...if that's not what the President is using then it must be something from your diaper?,....

sachin_05
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
President Donald Ramotar is indeed one of the leaders who adhere to the constitution, laws and common sense in the administration of a country.

You are aware that the "constitution" is only there because of massive rigging by the Burnham regime.  So this puts Ramotar in line with Burnham.

Contrary to your views, it does not put President Donald Ramotar in line with former president Linden Forbes Sampson Burnham.

Demerara Guy like he angry he boy Burnham now being outshine by Ramotar 

Prashad
Last edited by Prashad
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:
President Donald Ramotar is indeed one of the leaders who adhere to the constitution, laws and common sense in the administration of a country.

You are aware that the "constitution" is only there because of massive rigging by the Burnham regime.  So this puts Ramotar in line with Burnham.

Contrary to your views, it does not put President Donald Ramotar in line with former president Linden Forbes Sampson Burnham.

If Ramotar uses Burnham" constitution for his own purposes then clearly they have loads in common.

FM
Originally Posted by Demerara_Guy:

A person that holds the highest office in the land is expected to display behaviour of the most sacred kind in the system of values that holds civilization intact. Most leaders have not done so. Some have, some try to. But they all try to avoid undignified, crass, immoral, indecent, profane, feral behaviour.

 

Has President Ramotar no shame, dignity and/or self-respect?, November 21, 2014 | By | Filed Under Features / Columnists, Freddie Kissoon

President Donald Ramotar is indeed one of the leaders who adhere to the constitution, laws and common sense in the administration of a country.

He's a lout. An idiot. A loser. A puppet.An arsehole

cain
Originally Posted by asj:

Has President Ramotar no shame, dignity and/or self-respect?

November 21, 2014 | By | Filed Under Features / Columnists, Freddie Kissoon 
 

A person that holds the highest office in the land is expected to display behaviour of the most sacred kind in the system of values that holds civilization intact. Most leaders have not done so. Some have, some try to. But they all try to avoid undignified, crass, immoral, indecent, profane, feral behaviour.
Should a nation’s leader descend to semi-civilized or vulgar or shameless or disrespectful conduct, he/she certainly would jeopardize the life of their office. At all times a Prime Minister or a President must be seen saying and doing things that convey to the world that he/she has commonsense, rationality, logic and intellectual knowledge. That person may not have such qualities, but it must be done in ways that people will believe that they do.
President Ramotar’s letter yesterday to the Opposition Leader for a post-prorogation dialogue fails to achieve this conveyance. It is an intellectually barren, political silly and personally insulting letter (to Mr. Granger).
After the dictatorial suspension of Parliament by Mr. Ramotar, a repugnant manipulation of the Constitution never seen before in any CARICOM territory, Mr. Ramotar writes the Opposition Leader in a manner that is extremely condescending. If the PPP is going to achieve any significant number of votes in the next election, it had better dump Mr. Ramotar peremptorily. He is so politically flawed that C.N. Sharma may do better than him at the polls.
Mr. Ramotar’s letter contains the following unbelievable words in reference to the no-confidence motion; “The parliamentary opposition you led at the sitting planned for November 10, 2014 would have ended the life of the 10th Parliament, leaving unaddressed many important issues of the day.”
Nowhere in Mr. Ramotar’s foolish missive did he give recognition to the fact that the Guyana Constitution allows Parliament to dissolve itself to have another general election. That is the legal, constitutional and political right of Parliament.
What that section of Mr. Ramotar’s missive openly tells you is that he is saying, “I as President have rights, you as Parliament do not, and I determine what becomes of Parliament.
Mr. Ramotar continues; “My decision to prorogue Parliament on that day has delayed such an eventuality, thereby providing an opportunity to still have the tenth Parliament discuss and conclude those issues.”
This is amazingly stupid stuff from the highest office in the land. Which country does President Ramotar live in? The no-confidence vote was announced in June. Mr. Ramotar was written to by the AFC tying the no-confidence motion to a series of requests, a resolution of which could have avoided the no-confidence process; Mr. Ramotar rejected that pathway.
Mr. Ramotar then prorogues Parliament, writes the Opposition Leader and tells him I have matters that are still to be resolved therefore let’s talk to resume Parliament and have my agenda pass. Why didn’t Ramotar seek dialogue before the no-confidence plan was about to be tabled?
Alright, let’s say the combined opposition was going for new elections anyway, what is there to change its mind now that Parliament is prorogued?
Is President Ramotar imbecilic enough to think that the PNC is so stupid, sycophantic and self-destructive that it is going to sit down with Ramotar and discuss Ramotar’s “unaddressed issues” with a promise to resolve them if the President resuscitates Parliament? Any opposition party that behaves so slavish is useless and should be shouted down and be disbanded by its membership.
Ramotar has put the PNC is a position where if it listens and responds to him, its membership and supporters would denounce it. The commonsensical thing for Mr. Ramotar to do was to write both AFC and APNU to inform them that Parliament would be resumed with the request by the presidency that the Government’s “unaddressed issues” be given priority for discussion. That was all that was required.
Even this elementary strategy to save face, Mr. Ramotar cannot grasp.
So what does Mr. Ramotar do instead? He puts conditions on the resumption of Parliament and he is shameless in saying so. He stated in his correspondence; “…I propose a high-level engagement…to agree on a post-prorogation Parliamentary agenda.” Mr. Ramotar is barefacedly saying, talk to me first before I open Parliament again.
In the first part of his letter he gave his reason for prorogation – Government business that was left unattended. In the second part of his missive, he wants a post-prorogation agenda. But the agenda has to be governmental business because the lack of discussion on such was the reason he de-mobilized Parliament in the first place. The die is cast. The opposition has no way out but elections.
But Ramotar is fighting for his full term. He cannot get it now. Too late.

You expect too much from a Lamutar!

FM

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