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Harmon to contest for PNC leadership

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Opposition Leader Joseph Harmon has announced his intention to contest for leadership of the Peoples National Congress Reform (PNC/R) – running against other party stalwarts such as Aubrey Norton and Dr Richard Van West Charles.

The announcement was made on Harmon’s Facebook Page on Wednesday when he updated his cover photo with a poster which reads “Joseph Harmon…Candidate for Party Leader-PNCR”.

On the poster, Harmon also promised “Leadership with a vision and compassion”.

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While Norton and Charles have confirmed that they will be running for the top spot, currently Leader David Granger has repeatedly dodged the question on whether he will run again. Granger, however, had announced that he has taken a leave of absence from the Party effective September 1, but he did not indicate for how long.

Chairperson and Current acting leader Volda Lawrence also did not say if she will contest for the post.

Reports indicate that the PNC’s long-overdue Biennial Congress  has been set for December 11 with November 11 set for the nomination of the candidates.

Norton, who had challenged for leadership of the party and lost to Granger in 2014, now says that there is a need for a new political culture.

Charles, the son-in-law of Party Founder Forbes Burnham, is currently coming in for much criticism after it was discovered that as head of GWI he spent over $85M in parties over a two-year period. The former CEO has since justified the spending by claiming that it was an “investment” in staff.

PNC’s last biennial congress was in 2018, when Granger was returned unopposed as Leader of the party.

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Roysdale Forde supports Harmon for PNCR leadership; says no room for ‘Black people party’ tribalism

in News, Politics, Race, Race & Class Friday, 22 October 2021, 9:29 0 Comments -- Last Updated on Friday, 22 October 2021, 9:29 by Denis Chabrol -- Source -- https://demerarawaves.com/2021...ple-party-tribalism/

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Attorney-at-Law Roysdale Forde

Prominent Attorney-at-Law, Roysdale Forde Thursday night came out with a ringing endorsement of Joseph Harmon for the leadership of their People’s National Congress Reform (PNCR), saying there was no place for a tribal or divisive leader.

Mr. Harmon has also publicly accused the governing largely Indo-backed People’s Progressive Party (PPP) of discrimination against Afro-Guyanese.

In hailing incumbent leader David Granger’s “leadership, sacrifice and dedication” for increasing the opposition’s support from 114,000 votes in 2006 to  139,000 in 2011 and 218,000 in 2020, Mr. Forde said “the record shows that he moves the PNCR forward and we cannot afford to have a leader who will take us backward.”

Mr. Forde urged party faithful to vote for a leader who would be able to consolidate the gains made by the PNCR rather than engage in race-based division and tribalism.  “Essential to consolidating the gains of the People’s National Congress Reform is recognising that the PNC is not a tribe . It is a political party in which all the citizens irrespective of race must know and feel that their interests are protected,” he said.

The lawmaker for the PNCR-led A Partnership for National Unity+Alliance For Change (APNU+AFC) stated that a leader that is perceived to be divisive could not advance the cause of the PNCR supporters and could not much more advance the cause and the interests of the people of Guyana as a whole.

“We must not use statements , we must not use euphemisms, we must not use the word ‘grassroots’ to mean a return or an acknowledgement that the People’s National Congress Reform is a Black people party. It is not a Black people party. It has not, it has never been and it must never be.  A leader that is tribal , a leader that is tribalist cannot  advance the cause of the people that support the People’s National Congress ,” he said.

According to Mr. Forde, Mr. Harmon has the capacity to be at the helm to defend and secure the interests of PNCR supporters without alienating supporters.

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Aubrey Norton

Mr. Forde’s  comments about Black tribalism came days after Harmon’s main rival, veteran PNCR member Aubrey Norton found himself defending his stance in the face of perceptions that he was stridently pro-Afro Guyanese and could not be elected President of Guyana. “I don’t know why people see me as ethno-centric. I believe, unfortunately, when you are defending a right some people run down the road of saying you’re ethno-centric.  Now, I believe I have the right to defend any ethnic group. At this point of time, I’m defending African Guyanese who are being discriminated against by the PPP. I’m defending Indigenous Guyanese and Indo-Guyanese who the PPP perceive to be APNU+AFC who are under attack including burning down one of their buildings and so I believe that one has to defend all those who are being done wrong. If you consider that to be  ethno-centric, then you’re down the wrong path,” he has said on Politics 101 with David Hinds. Mr. Norton highlighted that when he had been a University of Guyana lecturer no member of any ethnic group had ever complained that he had discriminated against them. “There is not one incident, there is not one case for wherever I have been in government, be it in the Foreign Service, Ministry of the Presidency where I was cited for racism because I do not become involved in racism. I, however, am race-conscious and I believe all of us should be race-conscious,” he said. Mr. Norton is confident that he would be able to mobilise support from across all ethnicities.

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Attorney-at-Law Joseph Harmon.

Mr. Forde also said he considered the qualities of past leaders and they included a record of distinguished service to the PNCR, respect for authority and “none of them ever abandoned” the party. Over the years, Mr. Norton had found himself at odds with then PNCR Leader Desmond Hoyte and more recently with Mr. Granger.

Dr. Richard Vanwest Charles, who is also running for the PNCR’s leadership, had joined the Alliance For Change (AFC) in 2018, but later maneuvered himself back into the executive of the party that his late father-in-law , Forbes Burnham, founded.

Mr. Norton has recommended that the housing communities could structured, contracts awarded, establishment of all of the mechanisms of the Ethnic Relations Commission and electoral reform  to “attenuate the race problem”.

@Django posted:

To date one candidate stand out  with no skeletons in the closet .

DG.

He closet ain got no skeletons....it only smell so. Jus sayin. Oh rant I'm reminded of a touching song...Ole King Cole.

Ole King Cole was a merry ole soul an a merry ole soul was e

He called for a light in duh middle of de nite and went to duh WC.

The wind blew through the key hole, the candle got unlit

Ole King Cole fell in de bowl an swallow a lump........

(I'm stumped, can't come up with an ending..hmmm.)

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@Django posted:

Is she contesting ?

Actually it doesn’t matter who stands out, the most experienced rigger, you know, the one who helped Burnham twenty eight years rigging already got this in the bag. He’s like a dog who already knows how to suck egg, cannot change, his rigging would ensure the final nail is placed on the PNC coffin…hahahahaha [maniacal laughter]

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@sachin_05 posted:

Actually it doesn’t matter who stands out, the most experienced rigger, you know, the one who helped Burnham twenty eight years rigging already got this in the bag. He’s like a dog who already knows how to suck egg, cannot change, his rigging would ensure the final nail is placed on the PNC coffin…hahahahaha [maniacal laughter]

It's racist pricks like you who will cause the PPP , whose support has been on the decline, to loose the next election. Keep on laughing Hyena.

@Mitwah posted:

It's racist pricks like you who will cause the PPP , whose support has been on the decline, to loose the next election. Keep on laughing Hyena.

So, now  you are a racist if you are not a rigging supporter…hahahahaha [maniacal laughter]

@cain posted:

DG.

He closet ain got no skeletons....it only smell so. Jus sayin. Oh rant I'm reminded of a touching song...Ole King Cole.

Ole King Cole was a merry ole soul an a merry ole soul was e

He called for a light in duh middle of de nite and went to duh WC.

The wind blew through the key hole, the candle got unlit

Ole King Cole fell in de bowl an swallow a lump........

(I'm stumped, can't come up with an ending..hmmm.)

And Ole King Cole goes yummy, yum, yum, bumpity bump. 

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@sachin_05 posted:

Actually it doesn’t matter who stands out, the most experienced rigger, you know, the one who helped Burnham twenty eight years rigging already got this in the bag. He’s like a dog who already knows how to suck egg, cannot change, his rigging would ensure the final nail is placed on the PNC coffin…hahahahaha [maniacal laughter]

really?

all this talk about final nail and ppp in power for another 100 years is apparently not sitting well with donald ramotar. he thinks power can be taken away from the ppp by big multi-national companies interfering in our future elections - hello exxon

of course he didn't want to openly admit that it was outside interference that played a part in bringing down the coalition, but he's worried and he's warned his party

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@sachin_05 posted:

Actually it doesn’t matter who stands out, the most experienced rigger, you know, the one who helped Burnham twenty eight years rigging already got this in the bag. He’s like a dog who already knows how to suck egg, cannot change, his rigging would ensure the final nail is placed on the PNC coffin…hahahahaha [maniacal laughter]

That is the type of statement to fool people ,Burnham died in 1985 .

The first election PNC led by Burnham came to power was under a coalition government with the United Force led by Peter D'Aguiar in 1964 ,which was free and fair using the PR system.

Apparently mathematics is not your forte.

The US turned a blind eye to rigging of elections in Guyana during Burnham period of government after 1964 ,also the 1985 election when Hoyte came to power . Many wasn't in agreement with rigging of elections including my self .

Did elections rigging in Guyana halted after the 1992 elections ? even the 1992 elections was questionable as free and fair.

@Spugum posted:

really?

all this talk about final nail and ppp in power for another 100 years is apparently not sitting well with donald ramotar. he thinks power can be taken away from the ppp by big multi-national companies interfering in our future elections - hello exxon

of course he didn't want to openly admit that it was outside interference that played a part in bringing down the coalition, but he's worried and he's warned his party

For what reason this ‘outside interference’ would want to bring down the coalition? What’s in it for Exxon to prefer the PPP over the coalition? I bet you can’t answer that because you are just a sore looser.
Multi national companies and large corporations has been influencing elections outcomes in all democracies around the world including the USA for hundreds of years. The way these corporations/multi national influence is nothing new, using their money and resources to fund mud slinging, negative adds, dig up dirt on candidates that defies their interest and other strategy that are lawful[rigging is unlawful] in the game of politics. Ramoutar, a seasoned politician sensed that possibility of investors using their resources to backed some none PPP party supporters and puts out a warning. That’s all. So don’t get too excited to think the populace would forgive and forget the riggers who’s intention is to bring back dictatorship….duh ain’t happening anytime soon……hahahahaha [maniacal laughter]

@Django posted:

That is the type of statement to fool people ,Burnham died in 1985 .

The first election PNC led by Burnham came to power was under a coalition government with the United Force led by Peter D'Aguiar in 1964 ,which was free and fair using the PR system.

Apparently mathematics is not your forte.

The US turned a blind eye to rigging of elections in Guyana during Burnham period of government after 1964 ,also the 1985 election when Hoyte came to power . Many wasn't in agreement with rigging of elections including my self .

Did elections rigging in Guyana halted after the 1992 elections ? even the 1992 elections was questionable as free and fair.

Bro, you are on the record on this forum supporting Mingo and Lolobai bogus numbers, how are you gona convince anyone here you wasn’t in agreement with the rigging back then…

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@sachin_05 posted:

Bro, you are on the record on this forum supporting Mingo and Lolobai bogus numbers, how are you gona convince anyone here you wasn’t in agreement with the rigging back then…

Hogwash ,all my arguments was for a fair process .

Before the elections i suspected the PPP will rig the elections which was proven by the re-count where there are numerous missing documents from ballot boxes. Every PPP supporter shoving the irregularities under the carpet .

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@sachin_05 posted:

For what reason this ‘outside interference’ would want to bring down the coalition? What’s in it for Exxon to prefer the PPP over the coalition? I bet you can’t answer that because you are just a sore looser.


Multi national companies and large corporations has been influencing elections outcomes in all democracies around the world including the USA for hundreds of years.

The way these corporations/multi national influence is nothing new, using their money and resources to fund mud slinging, negative adds, dig up dirt on candidates that defies their interest and other strategy that are lawful[rigging is unlawful] in the game of politics. Ramoutar, a seasoned politician sensed that possibility of investors using their resources to backed some none PPP party supporters and puts out a warning. That’s all. So don’t get too excited to think the populace would forgive and forget the riggers who’s intention is to bring back dictatorship….duh ain’t happening anytime soon……hahahahaha [maniacal laughter]

You need to take a course about Democracy ,it's not only elections.

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@sachin_05 posted:

For what reason this ‘outside interference’ would want to bring down the coalition?

for the same reason american kept jagan's ppp out of power, it suited their interest. communism was not going to take hold in america's back yard. if it took rigged elections to do it so be it

what are those secret agreements guyana signed up with the trump administration? the ppp wouldn't say despite formal requests by the opposition to release that information, for example, the details of the shiprider agreement. and why has Jagdeo's reneged on his promise to renegotiate the exxon oil contract?

ramotar knows the tables will turn again but true to form you live in dreamland

I'll leave you with the following:

* 47 ballot boxes with missing statutory documents - POs and ROs responsible called to a meeting but never turned up

* ballots counted that were not verified

* voter impersonation - the dead and absent migrants voted

* CARICOM scrutinised only 18% of the ballots counted at the recount process and produced a report with strange language like "the elections were reasonably credible" and "GECOM cannot deliver credible elections" but concluded ppp won the elections conducted by the very GECOM

america and its friends turned a blind eye to all the above because it suited their (america's) interest

the ppp will continue to press for legitimacy from a section of the population in guyana but that would remain a fleeting illusion

@Spugum posted:

for the same reason american kept jagan's ppp out of power, it suited their interest. communism was not going to take hold in america's back yard. if it took rigged elections to do it so be it

Communism is no longer a treat, so communist in back yard point is moot.

what are those secret agreements guyana signed up with the trump administration? the ppp wouldn't say despite formal requests by the opposition to release that information, for example, the details of the shiprider agreement. and why has Jagdeo's reneged on his promise to renegotiate the exxon oil contract?

Really? Trump signed agreement with an administration that wasn’t even in power? That’s the most vomit soak shakebatty nonsense i ever heard.

ramotar knows the tables will turn again but true to form you live in dreamland

How do you what Ramoutar know or not, from your hallucinations?

I'll leave you with the following:

* 47 ballot boxes with missing statutory documents - POs and ROs responsible called to a meeting but never turned up

No ballot box was found to be tampered with. Recount figures  matches SOPs witness and signed by observers  from around the world and was good enough for them to call the elections free and fair.

* ballots counted that were not verified

Allegations with no proof.

* voter impersonation - the dead and absent migrants voted

Allegations with no proof.

* CARICOM scrutinised only 18% of the ballots counted at the recount process and produced a report with strange language like "the elections were reasonably credible" and "GECOM cannot deliver credible elections" but concluded ppp won the elections conducted by the very GECOM

Caricom was tasked with recount and release statement to the media that election was credible, the ‘reasonable’ is your addition.

america and its friends turned a blind eye to all the above because it suited their (america's) interest

American interest is to stamped out dictatorship and they did a darn good job stopping the swearing in of Granger using  Mingo card board box charade.

the ppp will continue to press for legitimacy from a section of the population in guyana but that would remain a fleeting illusion

The PPP was endorse by CARICOM, OAS, ABC, EU observers, except for y’all sore losers, they are recognize by the civilized world as legitimate government, so you got that right - for the riggers and their brain wash rigging supporters the PNC gaining any traction with their allegations would remain a fleeting illusion…hahahahaha maniacal laughter

@Django posted:

Hogwash ,all my arguments was for a fair process .

Before the elections i suspected the PPP will rig the elections which was proven by the re-count where there are numerous missing documents from ballot boxes. Every PPP supporter shoving the irregularities under the carpet .

The CARICOM recount  team released statement to the media that election was free and fair. It was up to the team not supporters to call the process fraudulent. They didn’t. Not sure where PPP or any supporters had any say on how irregularities should be handled. Educate yourself on the process.

@sachin_05 posted:

The CARICOM recount  team released statement to the media that election was free and fair.

It was up to the team not supporters to call the process fraudulent. They didn’t. Not sure where PPP or any supporters had any say on how irregularities should be handled.

Educate yourself on the process.

LOL

Read the CARICOM REPORT ,they said the Elections was "reasonable credible" also the number of ballot boxes observed was at low percentage.

Do you need a copy of the Caricom Report ?

You need the education on Guyana Electoral System ,information out there educate yourself.

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@Django posted:

LOL

Read the CARICOM REPORT ,they said the Elections was "reasonable credible" also the number of ballot boxes observed was at low percentage.

Do you need a copy of the Caricom Report ?

You need the education on Guyana Electoral System ,information out there educate yourself.

Here educate yourself on the meaning of reasonable and credible…if you can’t grasp the meaning here, go seek help, i really can’t help you…

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